I Have Joined the Ranks of the Insulin Dependent

By GabbyPA Latest Reply 2013-03-09 15:46:27 -0600
Started 2013-02-27 18:00:54 -0600

I visited my doctor yesterday for my check up and all my numbers were improved except my A1c. It was disastrous. I expected as much because nothing seems to be working for me.

Like today, I took all my meds, ate an almost zero carb breakfast and lunch and before dinner I was through the roof. I really hope that this helps.

So today, before dinner I gave myself my first insulin shot. My doctor is starting me out at 10 units in the morning of Humulin N and evening along with my oral meds. We will see how tomorrow goes. I was amazed at how painless it was.

One good thing was taking my hubby with me. He got a glimpse into how serious this is. We talk about it, but I think it was different to hear the doctor say things instead of me sounding like I was complaining sometimes. So maybe that too will be a good thing, as he has recommitted to wanting to eat healthy with me. We will see how long that lasts. LOL

85 replies

GabbyPA 2013-03-08 20:27:48 -0600 Report

Well, the insulin seems to be working...I had my first ever low today. That kind of sucked, but at least I know it's doing things. I'm doing okay now, but the hubby's worried. Now I just have to get it figured out.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2013-03-08 21:27:31 -0600 Report

If life with D was a fairy tale it would be Goldilocks. Our BG is too high, too low, then about the time we get it just right, the pancrease or liver or whatever else comes along anad screws with us again…sigh

GabbyPA 2013-03-09 15:45:14 -0600 Report

Yep, that is for sure. I know I will never have it really all figured out, but at least these are numbers I am more excited about. I have always struggled, and now the frustration has taken a break. For that I am grateful.

jigsaw 2013-03-07 05:32:18 -0600 Report

Well Gabby, from reading some of your prior postings, I know you're realitively well informed. I recently started on Humalog, and have been taking Lantus before bedtime. According to my endo, the only potential side effect that he was mostly concerned about, was weight gain. So far, and I admit with quite a bit of restraint and control, I have managed to maintain my weight with no gain. I feel great, and the insulin appears to be doing the job. My doctor started me on a low initial dose, which I had to gradually increase before I found the best levels to contol my bg. My a1c has been around 6.0 for the last 19 years. I'll be getting my a1c checked for the first time next month, since beginning Humalog. Let me know if you would like to compare notes, and results. I'll let you know how things are coming along.

Turtle 2013-03-04 23:47:25 -0600 Report

Hi Gabby. Sorry to hear you had to go on insulin but I am T2 also and all the pills make me very sick so I have been on sliding scale insulin for a long long time. I am on humalin R. It is fast acting and lasts for a short time. I check myBG 4x daily unless it is an exercise day then I have to check before, during and after so that makes 3 extra times those days. You are right the shot is painless. I have givin myself my shots since the 1st shot I got and I was in the hospital. They put me on it. I asked if I could draw it up, them check it, and me give myself the shot. They were surprised I think, but I did it every time. Take care. You can do this.

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:23:11 -0600 Report

You guys are fantastic (as always!) Thanks so much for the advice, encouragement and support. I have seen improvement, but now I want to see it stick. I will know in 3 months when I go for my lab work.

Set apart
Set apart 2013-03-04 06:00:08 -0600 Report

Hi Gabby, I know with your motivation and the need to take care of yourself you will do well with insulin. I have been on insulin since day one and overall I am doing great! Insulin shots are a substitute for what my pancreas can no longer do for me! I am on 2 shots of Lantus and use novolog as a bolus. I find that the 2 shots help so the I don't lose my basal, good luck with thus. Keep us updated!

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:03:45 -0600 Report

I have gone back to my nearly zero carb way of eating and with the insulin, I have seen the illusive 113. I still cannot get into a below 100 and my fasting numbers are always high. But the overall numbers are much better, so I am not sure it's the insulin, but at least I am in the right direction.

sloane 2013-03-03 17:24:09 -0600 Report

Although diabetes can be scary, it really forces our hand to be healthy, and that's a good thing. After my boys were diagnosed the whole family including parents and grandparents began eating well, no refined sugar, more fiber , lean meat and fish. We all feel so much better and our energy level has improves tremendously. Yours will too!

moon74 2013-03-02 20:38:17 -0600 Report

don't give the shot in the same place every night. Stomach right, Stomach left. Leg right , leg left. you get the idea. Having the support of a spouse is key to any situation. This affects the whole family. I prefer the insulin. I was a 200 + in the am. I started with Lantus and then we added Humalog. Now that I am taking the Victoza I am doing much better. And the humalog has gotten to almost never. Change your syringe. They arent expensive. And it will be less painful.

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:06:11 -0600 Report

I am right and left tummy right now. That seems to be working well. I use one syringe for the day, so I use it for two shots. Though this morning I dropped my syringe and the needle bent. I had to waste my insulin and draw another.

Turtle 2013-03-04 23:56:28 -0600 Report

I have to throw away lots of unused insulin every time I open a bottle. They expire so write the expireation date somewhere handy like the inside of the bottle flap. Use a new needle and syringe every time. Healthier and safer. You should not reuse a needle and syringe. I get my needle and syringes by the box. They last a long time and arent too awefully expensive.

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:36:32 -0600 Report

keep going… Glad you got your hubby actively involved.. In the past I have had so many acquaintances say sabotaging things because they thought that they knew about diabetes and didnt. For example, " diabetics cant eat any sugar"…
Just remember that during your day you need some carbs…
I have heard friends say.. my sugar was so high in the morning, how can this bee because I had nothing to eat after my dinner… therein lies the problem.. your body is making insulin all night and has nothing in its system to uptake that insulin, thus shutting it off, thus high am sugar…Sounds easy but as we know, finding the right combination is very hard…
I was on Insulin for a while with high AM sugars and no combination of things was working. I asked to be sent to and endocrynologist and he put me on byetta and actos…That has really helped… I would have been better if we could have added Metformin but my system cannot handle it…
Thanks everyone for listening to my rantings and keep on keeping on…if we work at it, things will get better…Love and Prayers to all of my friends…

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2013-03-02 20:14:41 -0600 Report

Hope you get the tricky balance of how much insulin you need figured out. You have done so good with figuring out what foods are hard on your system. The same skill sets should help with this phase of diabetes management.
Glad Hubby went with you and HEARD the Dr. Sometimes the significant other doesn't comprehend what the other is facing.

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:09:20 -0600 Report

I tried corn bread the other day. It was cold outside and chili and cornbread sounded so good...oh well, not even insulin can fix everything. Corn is still a no-no. Oh well.

First hand information is always more eye opening than second hand. Yes, I think it was good for both of us.

noonishish 2013-03-02 15:43:33 -0600 Report

Don't beat yourself up over this. Your body is looking for a balance. Keep testing as often as often as you can (without becoming a pincushion.

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:11:30 -0600 Report

I am a pin cushion, now in more places than my fingers. LOL!

Curiosity is always my driving force and the testing still shows that my pattern is true. I start high in the morning, drop though out the day and go to bed with a nice little number and then wake up high again. I'm hoping the insulin at night will help me with this because all the other things I have tried so far have not.

EJMac 2013-03-01 14:12:42 -0600 Report

Hi Gabby
When I first went on insulin about 2 yrs ago now I think, I thought it was not so bad. I had much better control of the blood sugars. I didn't mind giving myself 2 Lantus shots a day. Now, however, I need to take Humalog at each meal so I'm up to 5 shots a day. It's getting kind of old. Most peole find it much easier to control especially during the first 1-2 yrs. I just think with all my other issues, my body seems to be kind of going downhill a bit. Again , I'm lucky to be alive, but it's taking more all the time to maintain. Then I think about my friend James, and I don't have much to complain about. I do enjoy reading your posts and get alot of info from you. Thanks for sharing on a regular basis. Elaine

Nick1962 2013-03-01 11:13:43 -0600 Report

Sorry to hear this Gabby, but hopefully it will be a piece of the big puzzle that in the end will help. Just curious, going forward now have you formed any type of plans to change anything to try to get off it again?

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:15:15 -0600 Report

Yep. Work harder on my diet, loose more weight and show the doctor that I can do it! I like the idea of insulin more than pills, so if it gets me off the pills, that will be my first step. Then, if I can continue to keep control through my diet and exercise plans, I will hopefully end them all.

What I have done is gone back to my very limited carbs way of eating. I did that in the beginning, but people kept telling me I needed to eat more carbs (and willingly I believed) No more, I am doing what worked for me.

Nick1962 2013-03-05 09:15:36 -0600 Report

Good to hear this isn't goinf to be a wall for you and you've not resigned yourself to a future on insulin or meds. For some it's necessary, but I'm sure you're looking at the cost aspect of it as well. I think you're right about insulin being a better choice than meds - far less side effects.
Jigsaw actually talked me into upping my carb intake a bit as well from my extreme cuts, and even though I felt like I was cheating, my A1c went down .4 points. I really thought i was going to come in over 6 this last check-up with all my "cheating" and steroids I've been on, but not so.
Keep working!

MoeGig 2013-02-28 18:11:47 -0600 Report

At least my doc gave me an orange to practice on…of course that was in 1965 where the needles were 12 gauge (very large) and you had bruises every time, and they weren't disposable and stored with a glass syringe in a container of alcohol. :>) I'm sure you'll do well. Good luck.

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:42:21 -0600 Report

my brother in law (years ago) sent me an article from the NY Times about a set of twin boys, now in their 90's…They have juvenile diabetes and a very dilligent mother. She was very careful of all the things they ate, sterilized their needles and took great care of them. One said that they were resigned to the fact that at some point in their lives that one or both of them would fall victim to loss of limb. This was about 10 yrs ago and at that time they both had control of their sugars with no loss of limb… Amazing

MARQUEII 2013-03-02 17:29:57 -0600 Report

At last,someone else who remembers glass! At the time it was my husband a juvenile diabetic and me buying the supplies. Now I'm a type 2 and just starting insulin with no more pills at all. It has only been a couple of weeks and I'm still at two shots a day,and just started mixing N & R last night. It is amazing how much better I feel amd how much more aware I am of whats going on in my body.

dIDYMUS 2013-03-04 23:11:43 -0600 Report

l don't know much about insulin. But I am a type 2 also. When do you have to start insulin when you are a type 2? I took the pills for a while,but now I don't.

GabbyPA 2013-03-06 19:36:44 -0600 Report

That is something that is up to you and your doctor. I wanted to be on insulin last year, but the doctor said no. So for me, it is success to be on it. Had I known I didn't need a prescription to get the one I am taking, I would have pushed more. But I'm good now.

Not every Type 2 diabetic has to be on insulin. Some can control it with diet and exercise or oral meds.

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:21:55 -0600 Report

Yikes! I don't know if I could give that big of a needle to myself. These are so fine and I don't even really feel them. No glass syringe either. thank goodness.

MoeGig 2013-02-28 19:34:54 -0600 Report

Also in those days, you couldn't check your blood sugar…you had urine tests and, as a result, many more low sugars because you didn't know where you were. My own opinion is that using insulin will help you control your sugars better. It's simply a more natural way. Hope all is well.

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:45:58 -0600 Report

my mother in law had a big square machine to read the urine strips and I have seen how inaccruate they were. Besides, the machine was about $400 and not covered by insurance, so as a result she did not test very much… Dr in those days were not very knowledgeable about how to teach their patients as well. She never understood how food affected her disease. She died in her early 70's as a result of kidney failure… now we know how knowledge is a great thing…

jayabee52 2013-02-28 18:24:41 -0600 Report

12 gague? That is almost as bad as my dialysis needles, which are 16 ga.

MoeGig 2013-02-28 19:13:41 -0600 Report

These were big, metal needles. I remember them with pain. Today, it's so much easier to take shots. Good luck with the dialysis…hope all goes well.

Harlen 2013-02-28 17:04:42 -0600 Report

Sorry Gabby
Just test a lot the first two week to know that your not going to low
Hugs and best wishes

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:21:03 -0600 Report

I have been burning up the test strips for sure. I am very curious to see how it works. So far, I am not seeing any improvement even though I have drastically cut my carbs and added the insulin. I am logging it to see what I discover.

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:48:27 -0600 Report

I have a friend that was just put on insulin because byetta wasnt working anymore…She too is still in the process of upping her insulin, trying to find the right amount… so be patient…

MARQUEII 2013-03-02 17:40:37 -0600 Report

Gabby, you can cut out carbs! You have to have the three carbs per meal and one as snacks. What your carbs are makes the most difference. Remember fruit and veg are carbs just like bread ,potatoes and rice. Your body requires carbs to balance your sugars. They are what instgares the rrlease of your natural insulin. Cutting carbs drastically will cause your sugars to rise ( your readings) because your liver will dump sugars into your blood stream. So eat your______ carbs semsibly. BG's will drop.

jayabee52 2013-03-02 17:44:15 -0600 Report

I am wondering what you mean by "Your body requires carbs to balance your sugars". Please explain that statement?

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:55:02 -0600 Report

when your body makes insulin, it need to have something to uptake that insulin or it will keep making it…for example, if you have a lite snack in the evening, go to bed, during sleep the body will make insulin and use that snack to quit making the insulin and even out your sugar… If you wake up in the middle of the night and feel really hungry, that usually means that the body is making too much insulin and your sugar is high…if you eat at this point, you will wake up in the morning with very high sugars… when this happens, look at what you ate for dinner and what your nite snack(or lack of) was… you can usually evaluate what you should have or not have had… Hope this helps

Jeanette Terry
Jeanette Terry 2013-02-28 12:47:38 -0600 Report

Gabby, insulin isn't all that bad. And you will really start liking is if it helps your blood sugars stabilize and you feel better. :)

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:19:44 -0600 Report

I see it just that way. I had asked my doctor to put me on insulin over a year ago, but he refused. So in a way, I'm glad I am on it. With my insulin resistance, I am not sure how much good it will do. But I am willing to give it a go.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-28 11:49:25 -0600 Report

Welcome to the club! Please send you dues, in cash, small bills, to me. In return you will get a lavishly embossed, plastic coated card, the will say, "Hi, I am Gabby. I am insulin dependent and proud of it" The dues, as you know, are $100 a year, unless you agree to have the card sewn to your skin, then they drop to $25. where do I come up with all of these good ideas? I don't know!
On injections, yes, this is the serious Jim. I do the hunt and find. I put the needle to my stomach and apply a little pressure. If it hurts, I try somewhere else. If I find that 5 or more places hurt, I know it is time to change needles! Yes, I am a re-user! I know, they warn about infection and all, but I figure I have a higher chance of infecting myself by reusing my razor for shaving than I do with my needles.

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:57:44 -0600 Report

You should not reuse your needles…Never Never Never, this can lead to serious infection…Needles can attract all kinds of dirt and germs…Please Please be more careful…

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:18:21 -0600 Report

I know what you mean. Tonight, I found a more sensitive spot and it did burn a little. But I think I can deal with this okay. Now...about that club membership fee....

jayabee52 2013-02-28 19:23:51 -0600 Report

did you have your insulin cold when you injected it? Not warming it up to at least room temperature may cause it to sting or burn a bit. Roll the syringe between your palms for a bit to warm it.

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:26:00 -0600 Report

That could be. But the needle when it touched my skin was also sensitive. So I just thought it was that. 10 units is so little it seems it would be warm just getting out of my fridge. LOL

cograndma 2013-03-02 20:58:53 -0600 Report

not true, you need to roll the bottle between your hands to warm it… and remember DO NOT SHAKE THE BOTTLE.

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:18:19 -0600 Report

I just roll it to mix it a little. then after I draw my dose, I roll that in my hand for a moment to take the chill off. It does help a lot, thanks.

jayabee52 2013-02-28 12:52:45 -0600 Report

Howdy again Jim!

How would you sew a plastic card to the skin? Do you have one of these sewn to your skin. And even if you do, how do you keep it from pulling off (ouch!).

How you come up with these ideas may have to do with WV white lightning than anything else. LoL!

Mikeal72 2013-02-28 09:39:42 -0600 Report

Please be sure to let us all know how your experience goes. :) I found the first few days of insulin to be mentally challenging

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:15:46 -0600 Report

I don't find it too much of a challenge, except to figure out what 12 hour difference I can make work. I did, however, have a very funky dream this morning that was about taking my shot, butchering a rabbit and doing it all at the same time...what a mess! LOL

jannycerv 2013-02-28 06:45:05 -0600 Report

I agree that taking the hubby with you is a good idea, they really need to know what it is all about, instead of just some shots and pills!

Tony5657 2013-02-28 05:23:49 -0600 Report

Gabby, I certainly wish you well and I promise that I'll continue praying for you. It is good that your husband went along and heard what the Dr. said. Family support is a really good thing. Hey, ease up on those pecan pies! LOL

With your intellect & experience with D hopefully you can kick this new challenge in the butt. I know you're interested in natural cures so hopefully you can find something besides meds. that'll make your A1c get normal. As you know, with all of us being different there are many things to experiment with. I'll pray you'll soon discover what works for you.

Be encouraged, my friend, and keep your ear to the ground, so to speak, so you'll hear of & find something that'll help you overcome this challenge.

Tony5657…the pecan man in New Braunfels, TX

GabbyPA 2013-02-28 19:13:52 -0600 Report

What? No pecan pies? LOL Those are my husbands, but I tell you, even on a bad day...his levels are below 100. Even if he eats a whole pie. I still have some whole ones and today I made cookies for our bake/garage sale this weekend. I made pecan sandies...To sell!!

Tony5657 2013-03-01 05:10:45 -0600 Report

OK Gabby, the truth comes out … you're spreading poison among our citizens! LOL (As you know, that's my feeble attempt at humor.) Back when I was a sugar glutton, pecan pies with the dark Karo syrup in the recipe were my favorite thing … well almost. :o) I could eat 1/2 of a large pie at one sitting. Now I eat a large handful of unshelled pecans daily, after shelling them of course. I've read that tree nuts, including pecans, are good for D and our pecan trees outdid themselves this year so I'm happy.

By the way, your husband is fortunate and I hope he doesn't over indulge in your culinary delights! Hopefully you help him monitor his situation.

Tony5657 in New Braunfels, TX (with pecan breath) LOL

GabbyPA 2013-03-04 19:21:19 -0600 Report

He is one of those guys that eats junk and keeps on ticking. He said he wanted to change after the doctor visit, and so he is eating just Tastee Cakes and Oreos now...sheesh! LOL.

I am glad your pecan trees were so giving too. I still have some in a bowl to be shelled, the rest are in the freezer. They are YUMMY!

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