Insulin is not an excuse

By manapua72 Latest Reply 2013-02-12 14:38:09 -0600
Started 2013-02-05 13:29:55 -0600

This ANGERS me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hear people here and I heard stories about other diabetics from their family members that seem to think once u r on insulin u can eat what you want … BOLOGNA , u still need to eat healthier and yes watch & lower your carbs … Insulin is not a cure & by no means an excuse to eat crazy … One person recently said oh I got put on insulin but I NEVER changed my eating habits and my #'s weren't so good so I upped the dose on my own … Same person went on to tell others to do the same , NO I SAY !!!!!!!!!!!!! If person had started to watch diet she may been able to get by with a lower dosage of insulin … If u r an MD and r on this site and u want to instruct people , state that you r a MD and maybe I wouldn't be so upset … Yet if u r just like me a diabetic trying to live with this affliction , give support , give advice , share your experiences , but please don't tell people to go against their doctors wishes/directions/orders … Insulin is wonderful , you need to work with it !!!!!! It is not an excuse to PIG out on carbs … Thanks for listening to my tirade … Don't mean to offend any , just sometime I read discussions and get upset …

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146 replies

TerryLicia 2013-02-10 15:38:24 -0600 Report

GREAT ADVICE! But hey dude, watch that anger, don't want YOU getting increased glucose levels cause you emoted them up! :-) This CAN happen, everyone.

tabby9146 2013-02-10 15:22:46 -0600 Report

I know someone, where my mother used to live, knew her for years, and she was always having lots of problems with her blood sugars, and has been on insulin for many years. She eats whatever she wants all the time and she has been in comas and been in the hospital quite a few times over the last few years, I would think this is why, or at least mostly the reason.

nursepat1 2013-02-10 14:57:34 -0600 Report

Ditto! If you keep doing the same things, then don't wonder why you get the same results. I am the last person to claim perfection, but I know what I need to do and am trying to change all the bad habits I grew up with. That being said, it IS the hardest thing in the world to do. Working on the road like I do, it is common for me to eat from a convenience store. Pray that He will give me the strength to change my eating habits.

TsalagiLenape 2013-02-10 10:18:32 -0600 Report

I agree with you whole heartedly! If you want a better life, then you need to change. Otherwise you are asking for the problems that comes with diabetes like blindness and etc. Hugs

cfire6 2013-02-09 19:35:43 -0600 Report

You are right. Insulin does fix things. But it is a drug and I hate being on it. It does bring down the sugar levels so can see where some morons can believe that it's a cure and I wish it was. I'm a T2, take 4 shots a day, on Metforman and other meds to watch the kidneys. I want off the insulin and the only way I can see to do so is eat right, loose the excess weight and keep exercising to keep the weight off, then maybe I can get this under control to stop the shots and if I am real lucky and my doc approves, back down on down on the meds.

landi 2013-02-09 11:49:52 -0600 Report

Yes, I agree with you: People waste money in rubbish, and do not care in going deep and understand what really is happening with them or their health. Nothing comes from nothing in our lives: if we do something good, we would take good prices; but if our deeds are bad, then we must suffer the consequences.

Debbiejf 2013-02-08 23:40:05 -0600 Report

Tell me about it! I share a house with someone diagnosed with T2 and he has never eaten the way he should, he will spend a 1/3 of his monthly income on crap…cookies, baked goods (danish type, cakes, pies etc) and the nerve of this moron to offer me any of it really piisses me off! And no matter what I have said in the past 4 years, he thinks as long as he takes his metformin (and only when he thinks his bs is high!) that he can eat whatever he wants. For about 2 weeks a year and a half ago he did eat more salads and fruits-he lost 9 lbs, he said he was really happy and was going to keep going like that. The next day he went back to eating the crap again and gained the weight back which didn't take long. What gets my goat is he has the opportunity to take care and get off the met by just watching his food and getting 'some' exercize. Not all of us have that.

pixsidust 2013-02-09 18:17:26 -0600 Report

Is this billy goat your husband?

Debbiejf 2013-02-09 20:23:34 -0600 Report

Good God NO! LOL, I knew from the moment I met him I would never marry him! However I did think we had more in common…then came the realisation of his lack of intellect and common sense. No matter how many times I gave him the benefit of the doubt, doubt always won ROFL!

Debbiejf 2013-02-10 04:06:20 -0600 Report

unfortunately I don't have the funds to move, no vehicle of my own and as yet no place to move to that I can afford—however, I have turned in applications to senior places with rents I can afford :), as soon as that day comes I am 'Gone with the Wind' LOL

pixsidust 2013-02-10 10:07:10 -0600 Report

I just went through this myself with my own billy goat. I ended up taking money out of my retirement and bought a house. A mortgage was cheaper than rent. The money saved could go to repairs if any are needed in the future. I paid for this house in full but if I had a mortgage it would be $221 dollars a month. I also found a 2 bedroom house where all major things were redone like plumbing, electric, roof, kitchen, & floors for $160 a month. I do not know if thats a possibility for you but worth looking into

Debbiejf 2013-02-10 15:11:18 -0600 Report

It's great that you were able to do that, unfortunately it's not an option for me (to buy a house), either monetarily nor physically. Aside from the fact I have never wanted to own a house, because of the upkeep and repairs, I'm not planning to stay in Pa where I live now, I'm intending to move to Ga. where my son lives :).

pixsidust 2013-02-10 15:55:12 -0600 Report

Good luck to you. I have no physical capabilities and had no money except what was in my 401K. I hope you can go near your son soon. My only thought is if a person spends 500 a month on rent but instead pay 200 or 160 then the other money can go to hiring someone. Its so much better to be near those who can help us

Debbiejf 2013-02-10 17:20:40 -0600 Report

I wish I did have something ($) set aside, but if I did I would be in Ga already LOL, at this point I don't pay rent, but when I do get into some kind of 'rent controlled' place it will take 1/3 of my income which is less than $1000 mo. :(, my disabilities keep me from doing just daily mundane things like washing dishes, vacuuming, laundry etc. My diabetes is only a part of the big picture. I'm not looking for sympathy just stating the facts. However, the moron I have to share the house with does continue to disgust me with his thinking he can eat what he wants just because he takes a pill! I wish I could smack all the idiots up side their head and make them understand what morons they are to believe this…:). It would go a long way to get my frustrations out LOL!!!

babydoll48 2013-02-08 20:39:06 -0600 Report

hi i do agree with you about what your saying but being on insulin should not excuse any diabetic person to just eat what they want ive been blessed so far that my doctor hasnt put me on insulin and they only time i do go on insulin is when i get put in the hospital be blessed

MAYS 2013-02-08 15:54:59 -0600 Report

A great discussion!

Insulin is one of the many ways to manage your blood sugar levels, regardless of whatever method, or medication has been prescribed unto you, the most important part of that equation is YOU!

YOU must do your part to manage your diabetes!

People who gain weight once they are on insulin don't realize that once you start taking insulin your body begins to utilize the sugars within it properly, something that it as not doing before, therefore you must syill manage whatever it is that you eat or else you will gain weight!

Taking insulin injections does not mean that you can eat any type of way without consequences, the insulin is there to help you to manage your blood sugar-diabetes, not to over indulge.

nursepat1 2013-02-10 15:06:21 -0600 Report

Your'e right about the change in the way glucose is utilized. What most people don't realize is this—if you eat too much or too many carbs and take insulin, the cells use what they need, BUT the rest of that amount not used immediately goes straight into the fat cells. So, that is why people tend to gain more weight after going on insulin.

locarb 2013-02-07 21:45:36 -0600 Report

I always find your posts interesting. I absolutely agree. What's worse is that I personally know several people on Metformin and are convinced they also can eat anything. One close friend of mine used to set records at buffet counter dessert counters. Regrettably, he is now deceased. I honestly think that his chronic neglect of his health accelerated his death.

It's a choice that each of have to make; every single day. I do understand giving in to temptation on occasion; however, there are healthier alternatives for that too.

I don't wish ill on anyone. I hope that people who choose to neglect their health will be around long enough to reconsider their choices. My friend isn't.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-08 13:43:14 -0600 Report

I agree with you locarb. It is the choices people make. If people choose not to take care of themselves, it is their own fault. One of my neighbors is diabetic as is her sister. Their mom died from complications of diabetes because she didn't take care of herself. Both sisters eat what they choose to eat. They go to the doctors then are mad for a week because the doctor jumps on them for not doing what they should be doing. They eat candy, chips, cookies, and drink diet soda. The other sister drinks regular soda most of the time.

Their doctor put them on a better diet with the help of a dietitian. That lasted for a week. I asked them why they don't take better care of themselves. Their response is mom ate what she wanted. I asked were is mom now. They look at me dumbfounded. They are very nice ladies but are under the impression they can do what their mom did only it hasn't occurred to them that their mother would still be with them had she taken care of her diabetes. They both take their meds when they feel like it.

Gwen214 2013-02-07 19:44:37 -0600 Report

Insulin does not give you an excuse to eat whatever you want. People have the choice to eat badly, then they are taking the risk of complications later in life. Remember complications is a process, so later down the years you'll ask yourself "why am I having complications" oh yeah, it's when I …I'm diagnose with 2 other disorders. Its not a happy time. So, I'm my opinion, it's not worth it. Go healthy!

watson4042 2013-02-07 17:30:21 -0600 Report

i think you're right. and we all know that what method works for one will not neccessarily work for another person. it's trail and error for each individual to see what works for them. example, i can eat all the rice i want, it doesn't raise my bs, but my friend can't eat it as her bs's go sky high. i hope/think we're all smart and savvy enough to be careful about what we follow on posts.

Roy531 2013-02-07 17:23:40 -0600 Report

I knew somebody like that, never watch what he ate or drink. Drank beer all the time and didn't even own a meter. Of course he is dead now because of it and he was a very good friend. Tried to talk to him but his attitude was all I have to do is give myself a shot and I'm good to go. Miss him.

JosephVeca 2013-02-07 10:34:44 -0600 Report

I understand the sentiment. But I am going to say something that occasionally upsets doctors and some anally retentive diabetics.

I think what is overlooked by not only Diabetics but by many of our doctor's as well. Is the fact that Diabetes doesn't just have a physical component, but a mental one as well. Let's be honest, there are those that treat Diabetes as the end of everything sweet and they BMW about what they can and can't eat and act as if their culinary life is over.

Yes, we have to eat healthy and watch what we eat carb wise. That is a given.


You just can't eat them as often or in as large a portion as you would like and it is okay to cheat everyone once and a great while and you won't have that craving as a monkey on your back making you feel miserable. I recently had a slice of King Cake (a desert that raises your blood sugar's just by looking at it). Will I be doing again anytime soon? Nope, not for at least another year (I love Mardi Gras season in Louisiana).

Lizardfan 2013-02-12 14:26:57 -0600 Report

This is my philosophy as well! I love GOOD food and try to find a proper balance with moderation in all things. Continued good health to you!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-08 11:48:05 -0600 Report

Joseph I totally agree with you. I have diabetes it does not have me. Thankfully I am not an anally retentive diabetic. I do not comb the internet looking for everything ever written about diabetes because most of it isn't factual. I do not talk about being diabetic with friends and family daily for the simple reason, people really don't care if you are diabetic because it isn't a unique disease and because those living in your household will get tired of listening.

I eat what I want to eat in moderation. I know what will spike my blood sugar and what won't. I agree if you have something you crave once in awhile there is nothing wrong with that. You just don't make a meal out of it.

I do hope you enjoyed your King Cake. I can't eat it because it contains nuts and raisin's. I am allergic to those. The official cake of Maryland is a Smith Island Cake. 10 thin layers of yellow cake with chocolate frosting thinly poured between each layer and crushed candy between the fifth layers and chocolate frosting running down the sides from the top. This cake is delicious. Have not had it since being diagnosed. If I ever eat it again I won't be able to eat any carbs that day or the next.

jayabee52 2013-02-07 15:16:42 -0600 Report


As Aristotle said "Know yourself". And I have made an effort to follow his recommendation. I know myself well enough to know that I DO have to give up some of the foods I had really loved. Kind of like an alcoholic cannot take another drink of alcohol or s/he will go on a binge with just one drink. (sorry Jim) For me to act responsbly as a Person with Diabetes (PWD) I have learned what I HAVE TO not eat to maintain my Blood Glucose (BG) control. It is important to me since I don't have insulin or diabetes meds to fall back upon if my BG levels get high. If that makes me "Anal rentntive", so be it! I choose to follow that path.


JosephVeca 2013-02-12 09:27:27 -0600 Report

You are controlling your diabetes with diet. That is a different story. However, that being said, there are diabetic friendly versions of most foods.

The point that I was driving at is the simple fact that your culinary life isn't over just because you are diabetic. In all actuality my culinary life has expanded because of my diabetes. I like to cook, and because I also have heart disease I have to watch my salt intake, so I don't buy pre-made box meals (way too much sodium) which in turn saves me a great deal of money. I am working on a diabetic friendly King Cake. Got one part taken care of and am now working on the Glaze and sprinkles.

The recipes here are great, I recommend the Yucatan Lemon Soup Recipe (as a Catholic this one is gonna save me from a Tuna Casserole during Lent this year)

jayabee52 2013-02-12 14:38:09 -0600 Report

yes, most REAL foods (as opposed to box mixes) are diabetes friendly.

Great that you are so inventive. When you get the King cake perfected, please share the results with us on the recipe section! Glad you like the recipes here. In the past there has been some "kvetching" about how these recipes are not diabetes friendly.

Lentyl 2013-02-07 18:56:35 -0600 Report

Good for you! I think that it's just too easy to give in once in a while. Yesteday I was out and chocolates were passed, my favourite kind - Lindt. The comment was you have to have a treat once in awhile. I had a chocolate but only because it has been 5 years since I last had one. Normally I can pass those kinds of treats by with no problems. My friend's comment didn't push me to take a chocolate I'm happy to say.

Type1Lou 2013-02-07 08:57:19 -0600 Report

You are so very right! Until the individual with diabetes takes RESPONSIBILITY for their condition, learns what they need to do to improve their condition, and acts appropriately, they are only kidding themselves. Unfortunately, many are in denial and don't want to make the hard decisions to properly manage their condition.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-07 09:53:36 -0600 Report

Lou you are so very correct. NO ONE is responsible for your health care but you. Denial only makes the condition worse. If your blood sugar is high and what you are doing isn't working, talk to your doctor. Only YOU can control your numbers with medications, diet and exercise. However, increasing dosages can have adverse effects if you do it on your own.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-06 11:37:42 -0600 Report

Bologna is not a good food choice. Regardless of what your numbers are you need to take responsibility for what you eat. for me, fruit juices are off my list as well as soda, diet or regular. Pizza, I am not willing to give up, but i know if I eat it my BS will go up. Corn, carrots, and potatoes are the same. Sadly, bread and pastas are in that same boat. So when I do eat them, I eat less and raise my insulin. sometimes i am lucky and my BS is low and i need to raise it, so i do.
I often change my insulin amount without my doctor's knowledge or okay. Why? I am responsible for my BS. If it is high for reasons known or unknown, I need to lower it. I looked this AM at the RX for my R and it talks about 3-5 units of R. What a laugh! I started with that now I have myself (and have told my doctor) that if my sugar is high, say 350, I use 10 units of R for every 50 BS points. So, at 350, I would inject 70 units of R and test it 2 hours later. Each of us is different and we react to medication differently. I am extremely insulin resistant. My normal does are 80 units of 70/30 in the AM and 80 units around 5:00PM, then R according to my bedtime readings. For some people this could kill them, so you need to know your own body and how it reacts to each medicine. Recently I dropped Crestor from my meds and my average BS dropped by 100 points. Others take Crestor with no problem.

lanessa 2013-02-08 00:36:04 -0600 Report

That's rite u have to know your body and take what doses that are good for your body cuz that's the same thing the doctor doing trying too find out how our body work an guess the doses we should take

Set apart
Set apart 2013-02-06 05:57:30 -0600 Report

I totally agree with you I've been on insulin since diagnosed as a T1, but my goal has always been to eat the right foods and take as little insulin as I have to. Sad to say I have a nephew whom I love dearly has been a T1 since 5 years old and is now 21. I never really understood diabetes and/or was not educated enough, now that I do I think back he has always eaten what he wants. He eats everything, high carb diet. My sister taught him when he was young and when she controlled it, but as he grew older he just started eating all the wrong foods. One time he came over to visit before he even knew what he was going to eat he injected 30 units of novolog. I've tried to talk to him, he says I am too strict with my diet and doesn't believe me. He is so resistant to insulin and doesn't take care of himself. Last month was hospitalized with sime intestinal issues. With all of this, how do we reach someone like him? Thank you for this!

jigsaw 2013-02-06 11:05:57 -0600 Report

Shock treatment with actual examples of what happens to those who are not careful! It's definitely better than the alternative.

dia betty
dia betty 2013-02-07 21:02:35 -0600 Report

does NOT matter if you are TYPE 1, TYPE 2 or even a non diabetic . . no one is immune to "poor health" . . what you do, eat and even your actions today will affect you later in life so why not just start eating healthier, exercise daily, visit a medical professional on a regular basis and follow the orders given to you to help prevent any and all problems you could face hater in life . . you owe it to yourself, your family and to all those you care about you . . no one is promised a healthy tomorrow 2013-02-06 17:22:28 -0600 Report

I like to sing keeps my mind occupied…great stress relief…kep on singing…

jigsaw 2013-02-07 17:48:48 -0600 Report

I sing when I want to get everyone else stressed! Sounds so terrible, I actually get myself more stessed!

jigsaw 2013-02-05 20:43:38 -0600 Report

This may not make sense to some, but even if you don't have diabetes, there is no excuse to not eat healthy! The typical American diet can be deadly without the help of diabetes!! Diabetes is so insidious, I don't even want to think about what happens to those with diabetes,that don't eat a healthy diet. It was only a few years ago that I had a friend that went blind and eventually went into a diabetic coma and died in his sleep. He was in his 30s and on insulin. He ate whatever he pleased, and left behind a young wife and daughter.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-07 09:57:33 -0600 Report

Jigsaw tow of my cousins are brothers with diabetes. Both ate what they wanted and are grossly overweight. One had a toe removed last month. Two weeks later the other was in the hospital for a double bypass. They are now realizing what they have done could possibly kill them. It was like Wyle E. Coyete dropping one of the Acme Company's anvils on their heads. They got a hard wake up call. I love them both but they really need to be more responsible.

jigsaw 2013-02-07 14:30:23 -0600 Report

Being a manageable condition, it's a shame that some people who know they have it, let it get out of hand!

manapua72 2013-02-05 21:47:12 -0600 Report

Thanks for sharing that Jigsaw … That is so sad though to die so young and to leave a family behind …

GabbyPA 2013-02-05 18:51:15 -0600 Report

I am glad you addressed this. I have noticed that folks have given that kind of advice to members here, and while I do agree, you want to cover what you have eaten, the idea is to still eat healthy so you are not having to inject so much.

Insulin is a tool to help us, but we still should try to be as responsible as we can to make it easier for our body to deal with what we are doing to it.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-06 12:12:38 -0600 Report

Hummmmm…agree or disagree with you? Both.BTB. That is back to basics! Okay, let's drop the type 1's, 3's, 4's and 5"s out of the discussion. Not because I don't love you, but I need a smaller group! So, here we are with 10,000 Type 2's on DC. Guess what? We are all different. Some on Insulin, some not. Okay, let's get rid of those not on Insulin. Good, we are down to 8500. Now, let's get rid of those only on one type of Insulin, finally we are down to 253 people. Out of these 253 how many are on type x insulin, type y, type z? Okay, let's drop the y & z folks.. So we are down to type x and down to 79 folks. A group of 79 folks, easy to deal with. Still the amount of Insulin they are on (remember it is all the same type) is different, the # of times they inject may be different and the other meds they are on may be different. so to all of you, YOU, not your doctor, not us folks on DC, not your spouse, are responsible for yourself. You are responsible for what goes into your mouth as food, what goes into your mouth as medicine and what gets injected into your stomach as insulin. The idea I pursue is to use the least amount of insulin and the least amount of drugs that I can take. My blood sugar levels are more important to me than my cholesterol levels, so I eliminate Statins from my meds If your numbers are not good, do something about it. If you eat your regular meal and your BS is 123 before you eat and an hour after you eat it is 400, something in that meal does not work for you. Take time and figure it out. When I am trying to figure out what food is doing it, I may test my BS 12 times in a given day. Now I choose to increase or decrease my meds on my own. I then let my doctor know what works for me and what does not work for me. He knows I am not stupid. If I had gone from 3-5 units of R to 70 in a week he probably would have sent me to the vet to have me put down! I actually did go up in units of 10, testing frequently to be sure I didn't bottom out, until I came up with the 10 units for each 50 points. Okay, soapbox is starting to shake.

margokittycat 2013-02-06 19:25:42 -0600 Report

Jim you are so correct everyone and I do mean everyone is so different I have been insulin dependant since before the age of 10. There have been manyy trial and errors with me and the doctors it took them 10 years to figure out that my Blood sugars weren't going down because I was allergic to long lasting insulins. Then it took them 5 more years to fugure out that human insulin was the best for me. then it took anthother 15 years to say you are insulin resistant. it is a good thing I do my research and reading and know what I am talking about when I go to the doctor becuse otherwise I may have been dead along time ago.

Nick1962 2013-02-06 19:00:31 -0600 Report

Well there Jim I think you are exempted from manapua's ire here because you do know exactly what you're doing, you know it from trial and error, and you've made some lifestyle/eating habit changes. I can't speak for him, but I'd be willing to bet he was venting about the ones who made no attempts. But I get the point you're making - if you know how to play the game, are educated about it and know the risks, then it is your call and responsibility.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-07 14:27:56 -0600 Report

How this got down here I don't know, but this is in response to JJ and whether or not she can continue to have her fried bologna sandwich! Answer this question. What animal does bologna come from? Pork from a pig, beef from a cow, chicken from a chicken, turkey from a turkey. bologna from all the stuff that is left over from everything in the meat processing planr, compressed together and sliced? Oh wait, that is scrapple! so, JJ, you make the call! Yes, I am from Philly. Yes, I still eat scrapple. :)

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-08 13:46:42 -0600 Report

LOL I still have my bologna now and then. I never liked scrapple. Sometimes a little of something you enjoy isn't always bad for you if you do it in moderation.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-07 17:07:26 -0600 Report

Me neither, but you know I have a reputation to maintain. Now I don't know if that rep is good or bad, but i have to maintain it! Actually I do not think you have ever disagreed with me on much, but I am sure it is because you are brilliant and can recognize brilliance when you see it1 Ok, get the boots!

jigsaw 2013-02-07 16:05:16 -0600 Report

Actually, and to the contrary, your not! Definitely an interesting debater however! I definitely disagree that you are disagreeable.

Nick1962 2013-02-07 18:29:05 -0600 Report

Well, it takes two to spar, and I definately can't leave half my brain tied behind my back with you!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-07 14:58:32 -0600 Report

You know jigsaw, you have been holding that same fish for over a year. Pretty soon it is gonna smell like Metformin!

jigsaw 2013-02-07 16:12:06 -0600 Report

Glad to see that you've been paying attention, just not sure what to! By the way, I've caught quite a few fish in my day, and none of them smelled like Metformin. What kind of fish do you eat? Do they look a little like tablets?

jigsaw 2013-02-07 17:53:43 -0600 Report

Nope, trust me, if I was holding that fish for over a year, it would smell like something else! Me thinks ya got your Metformin mixed up with something else!!!

jigsaw 2013-02-07 17:24:14 -0600 Report

Truth be told, I ate that fish the evening after he was caught. If you haven't had Cobia, then you don't know what you are missing. Tastes nothing like Metfomin! A delectable lite white meat that has no fishy taste at all.

jigsaw 2013-02-07 18:13:46 -0600 Report

And Cobia has no side effects! It even helps one to manage their blood glucose ( zero carbs) and it's high in omega 3s and 6s.

jigsaw 2013-02-08 05:23:41 -0600 Report

Cobia is a difficult fish to catch. I have only seen it in local restaurants on two occasions. Unless you fish for them, you might be ,out of luck.
As far as farmed Cobia is concerned, I'm not sure if it would have the same qualities as far as taste is concerned. If they use anti-biotics like they do with farmed Salmon, I would definitely shy away from it!

Nick1962 2013-02-08 09:06:18 -0600 Report

Yeah, don't like farmed fish at all. Nutritional value isn't there either. I used to live in a town that had a true fish market that got shipments from all over each day. Even though we had a great coho salmon source in Lake Michigan, it was great to get some fresh Alaskan.

Nick1962 2013-02-08 09:02:03 -0600 Report

Thanks for this James. I live in an area where we have no true (in the old fashioned sense) fish or meat markets so cobia is hard to find. Guess I'll just have to take a road trip and visit old Jigsaw.

margokittycat 2013-02-06 19:20:48 -0600 Report

Some of us have been diabetics longer than you and we know more than you and we follow are doctors advise and sometimes that advices is to trial and error to see what works and what doesnot work. So but out NICK.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-07 14:29:40 -0600 Report

I think Nick was agreeing with me. that in itself scares me, because if Nick is agreeing with me, then I know I am wrong. lol

GabbyPA 2013-02-07 10:01:35 -0600 Report

This is a place to share our opinions and thoughts. A question was asked and we are just sharing our thoughts. Everyone has that right here. Just as you have a right to disagree or not.

margokittycat 2013-02-07 17:31:49 -0600 Report

And some people on here are acting as though they know everything and are giving incorrect information and very bad advise. They think they are doctors and they are far from it.

GabbyPA 2013-02-10 18:17:03 -0600 Report

What many people do is share what works for them. That doesn't make it right or wrong, just what works for that individual. That is why we always say that we should work with our doctor to find out what works for us as individuals. No one size fits all when it comes to diabetes.

The length of time with this disease doesn't always equate the best advice. There are many people who attacked it head on out of the gate, and many who were in denial for years. I always find that keeping an open mind will allow me to pursue some different ideas that I had not considered before.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-08 13:57:32 -0600 Report

Taking advice is like the flip of a coin. The advice is good if it works and bad if it doesn't. The same is true with information. When someone is giving information it is up to those who are listening to take steps to determine if the information is accurate. Much of the news we get from the Media isn't accurate but people watch and read the news daily. Therefore, people here sharing information are usually sharing it from other sources. This doesn't mean they are actually the one giving the incorrect information, the source from which the information was garnered is incorrect. Advice is like an opinion. People will ask someones opinion, they get upset because that opinion isn't what they wanted to hear so in their view they were given a bad opinion. So if you ask for advice or an opinion, you don't have to take the advice or agree with the opinion. What you don't do is complain about it. What you do is seek information and advice from someone who is more education on the questions asked such as getting medical information about your health from the doctor. Have a great day Margo.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-11 09:32:27 -0600 Report

When I post something, I note whether it is from my own experience, read about it somewhere, heard it from the radio, or it is from Divine Inspiration. In other words, I try to cite the source. Rarely do I allow any post to get me riled. If I disagree, I disagree. I may say something or may not. To me, this site is not a battleground. Yes, I have disagreed with Joyce, but I have also agreed with her. So if I strongly agree 25% of the time, strongly disagree 25% of the time and shrug my shouldars the other 50%, all is good. What I do not like are personal attacks. They are not called for and they are unproductive. and yes,, there is always James. Can't say I have ever disagreed with him on anything. Why? Is he brilliant? Who knows? He is logicial, resourceful, clear on his explanation and has "you can take this or leave this" attitude towards his advice and/or opinions. One thing I have learned from DC is that no 2 of us are alike. We do not react to insulin or other meds the way everyone else does. So keep the opinions, advice and counsel coming. If something is way out of line, one of us may let you know, but remember, there is no need to attack just because opinions are different.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-11 12:07:31 -0600 Report

Jim all I will say is that I agree with you in the same manner and I love the advice both you and James provides. Like you, James is a logical thinker which is a great attribute to have. The one thing I have learned in life is that not everyone is ever going to agree with you. I also learned that you don't get upset and attack people simply because you don't agree with them. I don't think I have ever disagreed with anything he says and yes his "you can take this or leave this attitude" is giving people the opportunity to look at both sides of the issue at hand.

Jim I once did a paper on virtual communities for my advanced psychology class. This was during a time when Chat Rooms were the rage. This was a class project and we all had to pick Chat rooms to observe and we could not change rooms. Our goal was to look at how people react to others virtually. We all had very interesting observations. One of my classmates had the following observation that a lot of us had noticed but not given much thought at that point. He said that people react to people as though they truly knew the person. Actually no one actually knows the person as an individual yet we all saw that people got angry, because people did not get what they expected to get from someone they thought they knew. I found that very interesting. When you don't get what you need from family and friends who you know in the real world people get angry and this same trait occurs online with people you really don't know.

I didn't attack I simply stated an opinion on the attack which I felt was unnecessary. The attacked person viewed it as an attack because that person was already upset about something that probably had nothing to do at all with this discussion. I think we should move past this.

At any rate I have learned things from both you and James that I value and will continue to learn from both of you and others so keep the info coming.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-11 15:11:45 -0600 Report

You are right and have me chuckling. I feel there are at least 20 people on here that I "know". So, is that called virtural anger? I do not like these attacks. They are not needed and do not accomplish anything. I think we do need to remind each other when we feel that a person has overstepped their bounds and attacked the person and not the opinion. There is enough violence and hatred in the world that it does not need to happen here. Besides, when it does they may be attacking my best friend!

margokittycat 2013-02-08 19:22:29 -0600 Report

I no longer ask for advice on here Just Joyce because people lke you who think they know everything and think they are right about everything and everyone else is wrong are the ones giving the advise 99% pf the time I will talk directly to my friends who fell the same as I do and have delt with this disease for as long if not longer than I have. I will have a great day a great month and a grea year and a great life because I know I am doing what i should do and one of them is not eating BOLOGNA!

pixsidust 2013-02-11 22:25:03 -0600 Report

Some people just like to hear or see themselves talk. They Hijack a discussion and try to drown out anyone else's voice. They do not know how to let go or let another speak without countering everyone at every turn. There is a reason why they may have lost their job or remain only a volunteer…Very irritating so I do understand. For some people eating bologna is all right and even encouraged… :-)

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-02-11 11:34:32 -0600 Report

Margo this is high on my ignore list. I don't feed into the madness of others. It gives them the attention they are seeking.

margokittycat 2013-02-11 18:57:10 -0600 Report

Whatever, you must seek a lot of attention then. I suggest you go back and look at all of last years discussions that you took part in and twisted them to be all about you and whatever the person who posted the discussion had, you had had it and been through it. That screams attention seeker. Good Bye I no longer reply to you because you are an attention seeker and I do not care for you.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-02-07 14:30:49 -0600 Report

Just remember Gabby some of our thoughts and opinions are more righter than others. (yes, just trying to cause trouble)

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