honey and cinnamin good for the diabetic

Flustrated
By Flustrated Latest Reply 2013-02-07 19:25:13 -0600
Started 2013-01-16 17:53:50 -0600

Heard honey and cinnamin are good for several things. How does it effect the diabetic?


50 replies

Copperchef
Copperchef 2013-01-25 10:59:50 -0600 Report

I buy my cinnamon in bark form and grind as I need it. 1/2 teaspoon for 6 cups of coffee in with the grounds is nice. Also, I buy all my honey at farmers markets in its raw form. Boiling it is the same as pasteurizing it. Kills off all the good stuff.
Here's a little something for you to add greater depth to your chili, Add an ounce of Barra brand Mexican chocolate(comes in a cake form, 4 or 5 cakes in a yellow hexagon package) and a teaspoon of fresh ground cinnamon to your chili. Gives it a mole' kind of flavor to it. Besides, chocolate is good for you.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-01-27 15:58:59 -0600 Report

I love cinnamon in my savory foods. And a good mole sauce is to die for. I have a Latin market here in town that I bet would sell that chocolate.

Flustrated
Flustrated 2013-02-06 20:27:01 -0600 Report

Now I'm eating oatmeal in the morning with sugar free syrup and cinnamon. So far so good dr never said anything abt that mostly concerned abt bones. I was surprised. I was waiting to get a lecture. Instead she spent most time talking to bone dr. How do you figure then out. Have a whole lot of test next time. Wow the older you get the more test you take. Can't complain I'm still here. Lol

"Sue"
"Sue" 2013-01-22 16:11:56 -0600 Report

I love some of these suggestions for using cinnamon. But I'm never just sure of how to use . I love anything with cinnamon on it. But , I'm also not that into sweet cinnamon doughnuts .

alicejoart
alicejoart 2013-01-19 22:52:15 -0600 Report

Cinnamon rolls do not increase my blood sugars but I do not eat them often

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-01-22 10:08:49 -0600 Report

LOL...I try that with other things as well. That argument just never seems to hold water. Cinnamon on my ice cream, cinnamon sugar, cinnamon candies...nope. Oh well, we tried.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-19 23:28:40 -0600 Report

oh come on Alice! all those simple carbs don't affect your Blood Glucose (BG) levels?

Let me suggest that perhaps you are not measuring at the right time. I encourage you to test your BG level before you eat that cinnamon roll by itself — with nothing else), and then test your BG after 15 min, 30 min, 1 hr and 2 hrs and report those numbers to us here. It would be interesting to see what it does to your metabolism.

Lentyl
Lentyl 2013-01-22 11:31:23 -0600 Report

I can't imagine eating cinnamon rolls with all of the sugars. I agree with your comments James.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-01-22 10:09:14 -0600 Report

I do believe she was joking.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-22 16:17:22 -0600 Report

in the off chance she might NOT be joking, I thought I ought to challenge the statement with a little experement to see if she really could eat those gooey, sweet, icing laden things.

alicejoart
alicejoart 2013-01-19 23:38:14 -0600 Report

I am denial, but this discussion is the myth that makes me think I am eating something that is okay for diabetic to eat cinnamon.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-19 23:45:10 -0600 Report

eating cinnamon is generally GOOD for us but we have to eat it with something which does not raise our BG levels much like raw apple slices. The simple carbs in a cinnamon roll isn't it. (in fact, I am feeling like I should do an apple with cinnamon very soon)

Lentyl
Lentyl 2013-01-19 11:57:08 -0600 Report

I won't touch honey because it's a pure form of sugar. I was told that honey is boiled for 24 hours but don't remember why. Does that mean that there's anything left but pure fructose and glucose??? Acciording to Wikipedia - no. All of the "good stuff" is boiled away. As for cinnamon - I put a half teaspoon in plain yogourt or cottage cheese for flavour. Also take cinnamon capsules. I don't really know if there is any difference in my readings. Pure Ceylon cinnamon is the one with the therapeutic qualities. The spice shelf cinnamon doesn't have these properties I understand. As with anyone else who has diabetes, it's an individual problem. No one size fits all.

emta89
emta89 2013-02-06 21:56:17 -0600 Report

I buy sugar-free honey and it is awesome, honey helps with allergies like pollen and hay fever, but the sugar-free honey tastes as great as the regular

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-02-06 23:06:31 -0600 Report

excuse me emta, but take it from a former beekeeper, there is NO such thing as sugar free honey. Honey is made up of fructose and levulose and approximately 22 different minor sugars. For the full article see here ~ http://www.beesource.com/resources/usda/honey...

but there are attempts at producing artificial honey

"Imitation Honey
There is an imitation option to honey. It is sugar-free and works well for people wanting to watch their sugar intake and for diabetics. It can be used as a substitute for honey in recipes or as a sweetener for tea or coffee. It has the taste and feel of real honey and has a thick consistency, but is made from maltose syrup that has been reduced to form maltitol. Imitation honey is safe for people who must control blood sugar or must be on a diet low in carbohydrates. Sugar-free imitation honey has fewer calories than regular sugar or honey. The primary ingredient maltitol converts to glucose more slowly, making it a good sugar-free substitute for honey. It also comes in flavors such as wild cherry."

But note this is made with a Sugar alcohol called Malitol which I have found causes gastic distress and diarrehea if taken in large amounts. to find other attempts to have honey substitutes Read more: Sugar Free Honey Substitutes | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7354744_sugar-honey-..."

James

emta89
emta89 2013-02-07 12:10:08 -0600 Report

James you are correct, I just read your post and went and looked at the bottle better, geez and I love that stuff, oh well they say if something seems to good then it usually is. Thank you for the correction though
Dale

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-02-07 15:54:15 -0600 Report

you're welcome Dale! Is your imitation honey made with Malitol or Xylitol? Both leave me with a "laxitive effect".

emta89
emta89 2013-02-07 18:55:53 -0600 Report

it's Malitol, you know I guess I need to pay more attention geez but I was so excited I could eat honey in my oatmeal, and with other things oh well

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-02-07 19:12:53 -0600 Report

I am a confirmed label reader.

Oh and BTW if you are not having the laxitive effects at your current dose then you may just go ahead and enjoy it. Just note that if your stools get too loose you may have to back off on the amount you injest next time.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-02-07 15:58:11 -0600 Report

Sorry it is not. it is made with either Malitol or Xylitol, both "sugar alcohols" which often produces laxitive effects when consumed in large amounts. (it doesn't take much with me as I am sensitive to the stuff. Sometimes I DO use malitol when I feel constipated.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-01-22 10:11:38 -0600 Report

This is why you want to eat raw local honey. Well, that is if you choose to eat it. Don't get processed honey, you are right, there is no value to it. Also the darker the honey the better it is for what you need. It is quite a wonderful substance, but our bodies don't do well to consume it in general.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-19 12:30:25 -0600 Report

As a former beekeeper myself, and having gone through honey bottling plants, The honey is not boiled for 24 hrs. I don't think they boil it at all (boils at 160 degrees). It only needs to reach a temp of 130 f degrees before it will not crystalize again. As a part of the bottling process they keep it at 130 f so it flows smoothly through their machines. As a part of that process they pump it through a filter of fuller's earth to strain out all the pollen and other things which might be unsightly. And an amber sticky liquid comes out the other end, what we know as honey from the grocery store. That honey is said to be homogenized as it should not turn to crystals .

The honey I used as a boy was raw honey and had been strained with cheesecloth to remove the larger pieces of wax and other things floating in it. If we let the raw honey set for a while, (2 to 6 months) it would crystalize and turn white and solidify. When we wanted to turn it back into honey, we would put it on the stove and warm it gently till it turned liquid again. It was just as good.

I can tell if I am eating homogenized honey or raw honey. To me the homogenized tastes a little "burnt". I have tasted some honeys packed in those small packets (like the individual servings of jelliy come in ) that tasted so burnt they were almost unpalatable to me.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2013-01-22 10:14:05 -0600 Report

I found that I really like buckwheat honey. It is very dark, and has a strong flavor to it. I don't use it much, but it has so many other things it can do, I figured I would keep it around the house.

Lentyl
Lentyl 2013-01-19 15:23:27 -0600 Report

What you write is very interesting. Thanks. I know nothing about beekeeping, etc. I just remember reading about the 24 hour process. There's a local store that sells raw honey but I don't use honey now. At the best of times I wasn't able to eat very much honey because it was far too sweet for my taste. My father, on the other hand, at honey as if it had no sweetness at all.

Set apart
Set apart 2013-01-19 06:35:53 -0600 Report

I tried the cinnamon, no effects on BG readings just like it sprinkled on 1/2 apple as a snack. Honey no thanks, can't imagine ow much of a spike it would give me! Honey may be considered natural, honey is sugar none the less, be careful with it! There's a lot out there which are considered natural, even fruits, but people withD still have to be careful with these foods!

IronOre
IronOre 2013-01-17 23:41:30 -0600 Report

I use cinnamon when I can . . . on my oatmeal, and (my favorite) mixed into vanilla ice cream (yum). My bp has gone nicely down too.
Cinnamon is not only good for diabetics but everybody else too.

Bookghost
Bookghost 2013-01-17 14:19:54 -0600 Report

I have started taking a 1/4 tsp of cinnamon every afternoon. Thats when I have my biggest spike in blood sugar. It has helped tremendously! Instead of 280-410 numbers I now see 180-210.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-17 14:27:46 -0600 Report

how did you take it? Directly from the spoon?

When I got my first batch of the "true" Zeylonicum Cinnamon I tried it that way and it was so powdery I couldn't swallow it immediately and I breathed it in. I was coughing it up for about a week. Not a glorious time for me to be sure! Since then I learned I had to consume it in something.

Flustrated
Flustrated 2013-01-17 16:52:58 -0600 Report

Took capsules of cinnamon and swallowd with another pill cin. got stuck and almost choked coughed up and was able to breathe. Never did it again. Thanks

Bookghost
Bookghost 2013-01-17 14:31:15 -0600 Report

I use regular cinnamon from the spice rack. I put in on a piece of homemade bread. DO NOT put it directly on your tongue. It will burn!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-17 14:35:18 -0600 Report

Actually the zyloicum was rather sweet and didn't burn at all.

I also refrain from eating any bread as one of the measures I use to control my Diabetes without meds.

I guess I should put it on some apple slices.

IronOre
IronOre 2013-01-17 12:33:50 -0600 Report

My dad was a bee-keeper . . . honey is more concentrated than sugar, but I forgot the exact "rules" to figure that out, There is no advantage to a diabetic (or anybody else) using it in place of sugar.
You may think that honey is more natural than sugar, but that is not true . . . nothing artificial is added to white sugar.
For me, I have learned to hate honey, as I was given it when my BS level got low and it made me nauses.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-16 18:46:38 -0600 Report

Howdy Flustrated. Good to see you posting again!

The following is a discussion from DC in 2008 on honey and cinnamon ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/11...

I want to caution you (as did Gabby in the 2008 discussion) that honey, taken internally is not very friendly to diabetes. It is almost entirely pure fructose sugar as opposed to sucrose as rendered from either sugar beets or sugar cane. The Fructose does not raise your Blood Glucose (BG) as fast as the Sucrose ("table sugar") but it will raise it high enough. For further information look up "glycemic response to fructose" and "glycemic response to glucose" in Google.

Actually the way that article from 2008 reads I believe it to be more applicable to the general public than for Persons With Diabetes (PWDs).

I would myself not eat honey in large quantities expecting to have it do wonderful things for my BG levels. (and that coming from a guy who loved to keep bees and extract honey when growing up)

Cinnamon is another issue altogether. Read this discussion from 2011 regarding Cinnamon here ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/12...

You will note some people had a lowering of BG with it and some people did not. I myself went on to purchase capsules with cinnamon and chromium in them and noticed no effect on my BG levels. I also sought out and purchased some so called "True" cinnamon (cinnamon zylonicum) from an online supplier and tried that. No noticable effect on my BG levels either. So for me it doesn't seem to work

James

Flustrated
Flustrated 2013-01-17 11:15:52 -0600 Report

Wow! that really helps me out. You are a book of diabetes knowledge. Thank you.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-01-17 11:34:21 -0600 Report

Thank you Flustered

I got this way by hanging around here and my love for researching. The above was a compilation of a lot of things from many sources.

Flustrated
Flustrated 2013-02-07 13:37:30 -0600 Report

My honey stopped eating honey because he thought it was one of the things putting weight on. Now how much is safe?

jayabee52
jayabee52 2013-02-07 16:04:04 -0600 Report

Actually honey (fructose) is implicated in raising triglycerides (bad fats which may clog arteries) For a healthy person there is no major problem with honey consumption, but with YOUR honey having weight problems it might be best if the only honey he has is YOU!

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