Eating Habits

By Sumatrafor1 Latest Reply 2013-01-07 18:35:22 -0600
Started 2013-01-06 07:23:27 -0600

I think the thing that frustrates me the most is diet information I am given by every nutrionist! Really?? I am a whole food back to nature person period. Do not tell me to eat other than that and they all just want to argue. I will not go to margarine, I will not go to diet sugar. If it is not natural, if I can not read the ingredients I do not know what they are I will not eat it. It took me a year but my numbers are under control and did not have to give up my beliefs. I am interested in anything that someone has for tips that go along with my philospy of food. I truly believe so much of health care issues are all the food prepared for us to buy and just not taking 30 minutes and some days longer but cooking whole foods. Thanks

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Caroltoo 2013-01-07 10:32:59 -0600 Report

I am a third who agrees with this approach. I like Nick's simply answer: if you can't grow it or kill it, you probably shouldn't eat it. Makes it really easy to sort out what is and isn't optimally healthy for us. I learned what I could from my nutritionist, but also refused to go with the fake foods.

What I needed to do and was not doing at the time of diagnosis, was to remove chemicals from my drinking water and home environment, increase my exercise, decrease my stress reactions, and remove grains to which I have allergic reactions (wheat, rye, barley, and oats).

Even in a health food store, I get comments from the clerks about my healthy eating style because I check out with meat, fish, cheese, lots of greens, and a few fruit. Hummmm, they say … where is the processed/packaged stuff that everyone buys even there??? Gee, you eat healthy!

Nick1962 2013-01-06 19:20:12 -0600 Report

Along with Harlen, I'm right there with you. With some exception, i figure if you can't grow it or kill it, you can't eat it. Very little processed food comes in our house. Our microwave is not a cooking utensil either.

It's good for the environment too. Since we started our new diet, we've cut our recycling trash from a 50 gallon trash bin every two weeks to less than a 20 gallon bin every two weeks. No plastic food trays, paper packaging, I might have put a garbage man out of work.

I spent today tending to 10 lbs of ribs that will feed us for the next 2 weeks, never turned on an electric appliance, got my whole yard raked and cleaned up, plus made enough black bean and veggie salad to go with those ribs in my spare time.

I think it's really time we re-learned how to properly cook and feed ourselves - without substitutes for sugar or butter and whatnot. Sure it takes time, but I had good music today (and good wine), and let me tell you, today was more fulfilling than sitting around watching the tube.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-01-07 12:19:47 -0600 Report

Nick to a point I agree with you. The problem is with many people living in condo's or apt's without access to a yard, growing our own veggies isn't an option. I am not going to ever hunt because I am not a woods person. Even when I use to go fishing, I would not eat the fish I caught.

I use to recycle. Ours is picked up once a week. I stopped doing it when my bin with my trash was stolen. Another reason why I stopped is the recycles weren't picked up as scheduled. The trash crew would take it and dump it in with the regular garbage (Recycles was picked up in the morning, garbage at night on the same day). This defeats the purpose of recycling.

Our Community Association leases an entire city block from the city for $1.00 a year. We have a community garden, plots are free but gardeners must plant a row for the hungry. Residents can grow anything they want that is legal. The problem is that people don't know how to plant their own food. My sister and another neighbor are Master Gardeners and they help those willing to learn.

I have tried natural sweeteners, one gave me an allergic reaction and the others simply made me sick. I buy fresh butter from the Amish Market or the Farmers Market. My microwave is great for storing boxes of cereal.

I think people want quick fixes so they buy microwavable foods and heat everything in the microwave. If you have a yard, buy a grill. Use the oven, stop frying everything and start grilling baking and broiling. Food taste better when it is fresher. No matter what people are going to eat what they choose to eat and nothing anyone says is going to change that. Only people choosing to eat healthy will do that.

Nick1962 2013-01-07 14:25:12 -0600 Report

I guess I was speaking metaphorically about grow and kill. Yes, very few have the ability (or desire) to hunt and farm. My meaning was more toward eating more fresh, whole foods (however you can get them) and turning away from processed, “factory made” foods.

We don’t have the option of recycling here. If you don’t put something out, they will go through your trash and fine you. Our city provides 50 gallon recycling bins which actually have RFID chips in them to track how often the bin is picked up. We had the option to “opt out” of the bin program when it was introduced last year (and we did) and have received one letter so far threatening to fine us. I told them to feel free to search my garbage all they want. I imagine that you, like me only have junk mail and toilet paper/paper towel tubes to recycle, and the odd can from black beans or tuna.

Yes, we live in a quick fix society, and are starting to see the result of that “everything now” mentality. Changing eating habits for many would be like getting a life-long smoker to quit. Some might, others will die for their habit. But just like smoking has declined over the years, I think poor eating will also. I think it will have to or within 50 years we’ll all be nothing but flesh bags on wheels.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2013-01-07 18:35:22 -0600 Report

We get fined for dirty yards, failure to remove snow, not putting trash out properly etc…I just filed a report that my trash was not collected Friday night. Waiting for a response. I know it will be a battle of wills but I am up for the fight.

People live in their comfort zone and if healthy eating isn't a part of it, they won't do it. The quick fix method is what people choose to do. I am willing to spend the day cooking something. I wait for the coffee to brew and I am not going to take the time to zap it in the microwave. I find that zapping food changes the flavor immensely.

Sumatrafor1 2013-01-06 20:55:47 -0600 Report

Thsnks Harlan, We would not have to worry so much about the environment if we all took that approach. It just throws me in a tail spin when they tell me to eat all the artifical stuff. I feel the same with the microwave I may heat something up in once in awhile but I use my sotve to get even heating. It is nice to hear someone else in the diabetic community echo my thoughts. I do not want to see another diatectian. I do not understand how they can think that is healthy for you.

Nick1962 2013-01-07 09:01:59 -0600 Report

Oh there are many here who share the same or similar philosophy on food. Convenience, instant gratification, and the constant media and sales message that bigger or more is better is pretty much ruining our collective health. Add to that the fact that unhealthy, mass produced food is so much cheaper it’s no wonder why lower income folks will suffer more health problems. It’s not that the wealthy can afford insurance, it’s they can afford better quality food and need the insurance less frequently. I know since I started eating better my medical costs declined significantly.
Yes indeed I have some strong opinions about the state of nutrition and what’s being pushed as nutritional information out there.

Sumatrafor1 2013-01-07 09:49:31 -0600 Report

Thanks, I was beginning to think I am the nerd at least to my close friends and family. My 8 year old daughter asked me this morning why we do not eat at McDonalds like other kids. I asked to name a few and she did. I asked her have they been out sick this year and she said yes and then asked her if she had been and she said no. I toldher that I believe that alot of the illness today is due to the diet and then gave more examples and she smiled big and thanked me. I then told her making from scratch is cheaper it may not seem so at first but it is and that is why we have money to do many of the things you like like the zoo and museums and believe that. Bread is one example of that and canned spaghetti just need to learn and not over buy fresh because if you throw it away it cost a fortune.

Nick1962 2013-01-07 10:30:49 -0600 Report

No, you’re not a nerd or the only one. I think the simplicity of your title for this post hasn’t drawn out the rest here, but they are here to varying degrees. Some go so far as to making their own almond flour. I do make some concessions of course because there are only two of us in the house, and as you say, you do have to be creative with shopping/cooking because cooking with whole foods can create a lot of waste if you’re not planning well. It takes work, but frankly it was something that was taught years ago in the home economics classes I remember from high school, and should be taught again.
I’m assuming you’re teaching your 8 year old how to cook, and will at some point be showing her how to make the best use of limited funds to feed a family. I know that lesson carries on into so many things we do in life, and she’ll be far better off than most when she grows up.

Harlen 2013-01-06 08:56:32 -0600 Report

For me I gave up on them and I count carbs to work with my D
You know what? it works good too lol
I use the book the Calorie king it gives me all the carb counts for all the foods and yes I use a scale lol lol It may not be the manly thing to do but it do keep my #s good lol lol
For me I like to keep it simple stick to freesh veg and cut 95% of white foods
spuds,bread,rice ,cake lol You know I eat a lot more veg now then I ever did
I will never give up my meat lol lol lol and bread is a weaknes that gives me a hard time lol lol
One other thing that has helped me is in the snacks now its nuts rather then chips and other high carb snacks
Best wishes

Sumatrafor1 2013-01-06 09:05:41 -0600 Report

Yes I gave white processed food to. Since I do not have a scale I measure all food for me and my children by the size of our fists. Surprizingly we are all full with that amount or less. I make my dishes as colorful as possible with never more than 1/4th of the plate meat 1/2 is fuit and vegetables and occassionally a whole grain or bread. My rice dishes or pasta always have plenty of fruit and veges mixed in so you get the taste or consistenty of a grain but is so full of the other that you do not need much. I do not keep chips or soda in the house and because 99% of soda has High Frutose Corn Syrup we do not drink it. My kids 12,8 and even the 4 year watch what they order asking about nutrional value. They do not have weight problem but since turning to a diabetic and watching even closer how we eat I have lost over 40 pounds and keep dropping very slowly. I always have nuts around of all varities and add them to my dishes as well.

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