5 year type 2 diabetic looking for new ideas

By emboss03 Latest Reply 2012-12-28 20:55:10 -0600
Started 2012-12-13 15:20:57 -0600

I'll try to make my story as short as possible to explain why I'm at where I am today…

5 years ago I was diagnosed with Type 2 and high blood pressure. Started on Metformin and Lisinopril. Blood sugars were decent (lost 15 lbs the first month on metformin) and blood pressure went down. Skip ahead 3 years… Got pregnant in April 2010. I was told back when I was a teenager that I would have a difficult time concieving due to many problems (PCOS one of them). The pregnancy was HORRIBLE!! High blood sugars put me on insulin and off what I was taking at the time (Janumet). Blood pressure was high too… put on bedrest at 23 weeks… hospital bedrest at 26 weeks… ended up delivering early due to pre-eclampsia at 30 weeks. Beautiful but very sick 2 lb 5 oz daughter born… 75 day NICU stay. Now she's 2 years old and you couldn't tell a thing was wrong!

Now present day… 28 years old. On insulin and Janumet for diabetes. Blood sugars high again. Weight is up. Blood pressure still high but not bad. Now I have high cholesterol. Yay! Not…

I was recently put on phentramine for weight loss. I have been trying desperately hard to lose weight and get healthy because my hubby and I want another baby. Not going to happen if my health is this bad because I don't want to do that again.

I've tried calorie counting, carb counting, etc etc. What works for us diabetics??? I'm confused and need a little motivation and a few new ideas! Anything welcome. Just make it positive, negative stuff doesn't fly with me…

(Sorry… I lied, didn't make it short!)

20 replies

Acousins 2012-12-17 16:34:20 -0600 Report

Sorry to hear of your problems but congrats on the baby… just start small and take your time… move alittle and eat veggie and fiber as for me the herbal supplements helped me and I adjusted my carbs… Its not easy and it all takes time but it works… research the supplements and your body needs.. I found that I needed vitamin D and Maguesum and a few other things… You can do it…

emboss03 2012-12-17 07:43:22 -0600 Report

Thank you all for your encouragement. I've managed to lose 2 lbs this last week and my blood sugars are much more in control. I went back to low carb and its so much better for me.

Fefe12 2012-12-17 02:07:30 -0600 Report

Wow, so much information to digest. I dont have a weight problem so Im not going to tell you its easy. Im sure its not but we have to really sit down and learn what is and isnt good for our bodies. I eat three meals a day and a snack at night. Each meal I have 45 carbs and no more. 15 at night with a protien serving. A tad more carbs if Ive had a glass of wine. A serving of pasta, rice, or beans is a half cup cooked. I only use whole wheat pasta and do not eat sandwichs unless its a treat which I cut all the crusts off and only leave myself a very small sandwich. I love hamburgers but only have them lettuce wrapped. In fact all my sandwichs are lettuce wrapped. I only eat a bit of bread rarely I dont like wasting my carbs. I dont eat a lot of sweets. If I do decide to have them I usually share with my friends or family so that I only get a bite or two. Denial is I think a bad enemy. Just think of smaller portians and lots of sharing. Think of what carbs are important to you and what you can live without. If the cant live without list is to long. Try and take one item at a time and find a replacement or learn to live without. I personnaly dont go for fake sugar food. I think if you live with less sugar you will be much better off. Everyone will be better off. I think we have been so conditioned to eat big, and load up with sugar that when someone tells us we cant we rush to find an excuse to either keep eating like that or find subsitutes. When non of us should be eating like the world is anyway. I hope this helps. Its helped me alot. I love food and enjoy it now more than ever. You just have to take control. You have a good reason to, to give a life to another child. Whats more important then that!


manapua72 2012-12-13 20:40:56 -0600 Report

James my father that raised me … I've got two … He's a cancer patient , he has lost the function of his kidneys due to cancer . He is on dialysis it's hard … I'm sorry to hear u r close to needing dialysis … R u perchance eating too much protein ??? Just a thought … My doctor had told me prior to getting the pump that I'd end up on dialysis if my numbers stayed high and out of control … I hope u can remain off of dialysis as long as possible !!!!!!!!!!!!

jayabee52 2012-12-14 01:20:29 -0600 Report

Yes I am trying to stay off dialysis for as long as possible. But my kidney numbers continue to decline. I had been on hemodialysis before for 10 mos, beginning early Nov '06. my kidneys were shut down due to a kidney infection. I had been off dialysis for about 4 yrs but the damage slowly crept back in.

I have a dialysis access fistula all ready to go and return to hemodialysis.

As far as protein goes, I have been getting blood and urine tests regularly, and i ask Dr if I might be eating too much protein. He looks at the numbers and tells me my protein levels are good, so no worries about that.

manapua72 2012-12-13 18:59:49 -0600 Report

Hi … I've tried low carb life style . James is RIGHT , your blood sugars will remain low and controlled … It is hard to maintain … I've heard people on it say they no longer crave carbs etc … Well I tried numerous times … Having 20 carbs or less a day … I was trying to be in BDK so I could always be burning fat for energy … I couldn't maintain that ..,.. I love eating … Been on insulin for about a year and my blood sugar was all over the place though mostly highs in the 300's just 6 or 7 weeks ago I was @ 500 something … Just a month I started on an insulin pump … OMG , I'm using less insulin , been taken off Metformin … My #'s r lower much lower and stable under control and I'm allowed to eat what I want ..,… In moderation if course … If the pump is an option for u I'd look into it … It's the best thing to happen to me since being diabetic …

jayabee52 2012-12-13 19:13:59 -0600 Report

my plan doesn't give a DAILY carb count THAT low (20). Actually the cornerstone of my plan is to not eat nutritionally "empty" carbs by avoiding breads and anything made from grains. That can be tricky but it can be done. Please see my link below in my reply to emboss.

jayabee52 2012-12-13 15:46:10 -0600 Report

Howdy Emboss!

No worries about the length of your discussion post. I'd rather have too much information rather than not enough. Of course I have been known to give rather long replies myself.

I had been on oral diabetes meds (mostly metformin) until I got kidney disease and then had to switch to low doses of NPH insulin. Quite by accident (dropped my insulin vial and shattered it) and I had to email back to my PCP in San Francisco from Las Vegas and there was a 2 day wait before I could get replacement. I decided that since my NPH dose was very small (about 15 U in AM and 13 PM) I decided to try extreme lo carb meals. Since my blood glucose (BG) readings really didn't rise all that much, I decided to experiment with meal plans. This is what came of it ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/14...

This may or may not work for you or you may have to adapt it for your circumstances, but give it a look-see, and let me know if you try it or modify it, how it works for you.

Praying God's richest blessings be upon you and yours always.

James Baker

emboss03 2012-12-13 16:34:10 -0600 Report

Thank you! I've done low carb before with a pretty good success rate. But, now I'm having friends tell me that it's all about calories. So, when I went to my doctor a few weeks ago, I asked him. He said that for us diabetics, it's more about the carbs and type of carbs we eat, not necessarily about the calories. So, I've started back on the low carb living stuff. It's provided me with a 4 lb weight loss in just under two weeks. So, I'm happy about that! My doc also recommended the "Wheat Belly" diet… cutting out wheat (basically gluten free) in my diet. I've heard mixed reviews but I've decided to try it out. Slowly (because I love bread), I am cutting out all bread, pasta, and anything else that is a starchy carb. I'm not cutting it out completely, but just cutting back tremendously. Before I would have toast for breakfast, sandwich for lunch, and something, usually carb related, for supper. Now, I'm having eggs or a protein shake (I read this thing about having 30 grams of protein in the first 30 mins that you are awake in a day and how it can increase energy and keep you from giving into your cravings during the day… totally works!) for breakfast… lunch is usually a salad or a brothy soup (not creamy… too many carbs in there), and then letting myself have a sensible, but normal supper. For snacks I do string cheese, yogurt, fruit or veggies. I let myself cheat if I really am craving something, but instead of buying a large portion, I buy the smaller portion and put some away where I can't get to it after I've had enough. So far it seems to work, but I just need to keep it up. I'm on too many medications and have too many health problems for only being 28. I have two morbidly obese parents with a long list of health issues (mom: diabetic, with major neuropathy, no feeling in her legs and cataracts; dad: stage 4 and progressing liver failure, kidney failure) so I will forever have genetics against me… but I'm trying to beat genetics and environmental factors so that I don't have the same issues as they have had.

Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it!

jayabee52 2012-12-13 17:08:24 -0600 Report

I am glad your Dr was up on nutrition and diabetes at least a little bit.

I can eat a lot of calories should I choose to eat fat. Fat is 9 cal/oz verses either carbs or protein = 4 cal/oz. I focus on protein and only eat carbs which have other micronutrients in them (mostly strawberries & blueberries) and avoid breads and grain products almost completely. I guess I followed the Wheat belly meal plan before I had even heard about the book.

I am 60 yo and I am very close to needing to go on dialysis myself. But I had been on hemodialysis for 10 mos starting in Nov 2006, so I know the score there.

I strive to be as supportive as possible here. Thank you for your appreciation.


Debbiejf 2012-12-15 16:02:54 -0600 Report

Hello Emboss :), I have been diabetic for 28 years, was diagnosed when I was 28 :(. Way back then there wasn't near enough info or options so I only paid attention to it on and off all those years, getting serious for awhile and then just got tired of it like a yoyo. Recently I knew it was overdue for me to get down and dirty, beginnings of neuropathy in my feet. So I cut out everything except meats and veggies. I ate lots of salads and added sliced black olives, diced ham and shredded cheeses to about a 2 quart mixing bowl and that was most of my meals. When I wanted a hot meal I cooked up a meat-pork, beef, chicken-and a veggie (canned or frozen). And then I would eat the whole thing! No pease or corn! Whether it was a can of veggies or a small bag of frozen- I put that and the meat on my plate and ate every bit of it. I did this for about a month and lost 19 lbs and brought my A1C down from 9 to a 6.3. I kept this up and even got my A1C down to a 5.9. I have too many physical problems to exercise normally :(. This was all good until I saw a nutrionist who told me I HAD to reincorporate carbs back into my diet—HUGE MISTAKE—so now I have to go back to the way I was controlling my blood sugar on my own. Sometimes even 'professionals' don't know what they are talking about :(. You're doctor is right, it's the carbs not the calories :).

jayabee52 2012-12-15 17:55:00 -0600 Report

Debbie, when the medical provider does not have diabetes, you never know really what is what. I'd rather take the word of a PWD (person with diabetes) who doesn't have the medical degree than someone who has not walked in our shoes for even one moment.

Debbiejf 2012-12-15 23:41:07 -0600 Report

Yeah, I found that out the hard way too. I have had 2 different PC drs in the last 17 yrs and neither of them thought it necessary for me to see an endo dr. I told my current (2nd dr) that she didn't have all the info I need/needed to prevent some of the problems I have developed and now I have an endo :), yaay me! I have learned a lot of precious information here on DC that I never got from my PC dr and it took about a year for me to see an endo, and at that I only got to see the Nurse Practitioner :(. But she still knows more than my PC dr :).

jayabee52 2012-12-16 02:26:08 -0600 Report

one of the first things we need when we're first Dx'd with DM is that we need to grow a back bone and politely stand up to the MDs in our lives. And if they don't have what we need, then we seek another who really gets us and our problems. That is after being on a place like DC for a while and learn what is what.

In my case I was WAY too green when first Dx'd and just went with everything Dr said.

Turtle 2012-12-16 05:18:05 -0600 Report

Hi Jaybee I agree with both of these posts. Fortunately, my kidneys have been ok thus far, even with past kidney infections. Several yrs. ago, after a rape, I got a really bad kidney infection that involved blood in my urine. It was the worst kidney infection I have ever had. The attake on me was the most violent of all the several rapes in my life. I hope and pray you can stay off of dialisis too.

Debbiejf 2012-12-16 03:48:34 -0600 Report

I'm not even sure how happy I'm going to be with the NP (nurse Practitioner) since she really didn't listen to me all that closely :(. But I have no qualms about speaking my mind and making sure they hear and understand—comes from years of being intimidated by their attitudes of they know more and know best…supposedly. I'm supposed to go back on the 18th but I have a conflicting appt so I'll have to reschedule but hopefully it won't take another 6 months LOL.

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