Carbohydrate Balanced Meals - Chart

Dr John
By Dr John Latest Reply 2012-12-13 13:27:08 -0600
Started 2012-12-09 07:57:42 -0600

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Dr John
Dr John 2012-12-12 07:54:58 -0600 Report

I shouldn't have posted this chart. It was excerpted from my book, which I cannot mention here because it is commercial. But, I also expected that your dietician should have already explained these things to you. The field of endocrinology is the most incompetent field of medicine. My field is neuro.


locarb 2012-12-09 19:29:49 -0600 Report

I really appreciate the chart, while I understand the confusion others may have; it was useful to me. I control Type 2 by diet and exercise and eat very low carbs. I have refrained from a number of foods so this summary actually confirmed what I am already doing…with one exception: I don't eat many more carbs per day than these planned meals. Eating relatively few things prepared in different ways does get tedious. For better or worse, while I can, I prefer to control this condition without medication.

Thank you for the information.

tabby9146 2012-12-10 08:59:29 -0600 Report

I too control by D&E and always looking for others like me, wonder how many are here on this board? I want to see how long we can all do this, since it has always been my understanding that we can't do this for the rest of our lives before pills are needed and others eventually insulin.

phoenix20 2012-12-11 23:04:35 -0600 Report

I control by D&E also for 3 years now. I keep my weight down and use a treadmill and walk on nice days.

locarb 2012-12-10 13:02:32 -0600 Report

You may be right about "the rest of our life", but I have been eating extremely low carb for almost three years. Some of the meal plans on the chart are around 40-50 grams of carb per meal (as I recall). I have no criticism of the approach. I don't each much more than 50 grams of carb a day. I have managed to attend yoga twice a week and workout at a gym an additional two times a week (cardio and weights). It's not for everyone and you honestly do avoid many food choices. It can be done. Your cravings and tastes change over time. I can't even imagine wanting to eat some of the things that I ate before (and probably contributed to the diagnosis). The benefits are A1C's under 5.5 for three years and average BG in the high 80's and 90's this entire time.

I also realize that managing to control this condition without medication is a choice and is not a condemnation of medication. I also do recognize that things can change for me too and, if they do, I will be the first to to step in line for any Rx that will help (especially insulin).

jayabee52 2012-12-10 09:56:37 -0600 Report

Actually have been on pills and when my kidneys failed was on low doses of NPH insulin. I learned, by accident, that if I ate VERY carefully I had enough insulin output to keep my BG levels in an acceptable range. So now for about the past 2 yrs I have been med and insulin free.

granniesophie 2012-12-09 15:03:10 -0600 Report

This is confusing. It repeats itself many times. Are these the only foods we are supposed to eat, according to this chart? And how do you follow it? It isn't balanced-where is the dairy, fruits, veggies except salad? Most of us need those things to have a balanced diet. Yours seems to rely on only oatmeal, brown rice and quinoa for catbs. Is that all there is? Please clarify and unconfuse me.

Caroltoo 2012-12-09 14:50:26 -0600 Report

Thanks for sharing the carb counts of various items on your list. Like, James, I'm a little uncertain what you mean when you say these are "planned meals". Seems like there must be much more than you have shared here because this list isn't a list of meals it's a list of foods. Could you clarify?

Dr John
Dr John 2012-12-09 13:10:52 -0600 Report

They are planned meals. You need to weigh the items. Most are 45 gram carbohydrate meals. The fat, protein and carbohydrates are balanced.


Dr John
Dr John 2012-12-10 09:07:17 -0600 Report

The chart is excepted from my book. That is why you are missing the explanation. However, your dietician should have given you something like this and explained it. I'm shocked how many people are not being given the proper information.

P.S. If I mention my book, I will be thrown out of this community as I have in others because my book is commercial, even though I haven't sold any yet.


Caroltoo 2012-12-10 13:07:14 -0600 Report

Yes, there is an appalling deficit of accurate information and most of us have learned on our own through reading, talking with others, and researching on our own. It was a challenge for me because I had never known anyone who acknowledged being diabetic — one reason I have been so open on here — it needs to come out of the dark and be talked about!

That having been said, I learned to cook from natural foods and my sister is a dietitian, so I think I may have had a head start there because I really never bought into the whole junk food mindset. I also had access to a diabetic educator for about 6 hours. That was rudimentary because I knew nothing at the time, but very helpful.

What I find I have needed was to get rid of the extra chemicals in the house and food, and stop using products with gluten. The resulting decrease in inflammation has dramatically improved my BG levels and I have been medication free now for several years.

jayabee52 2012-12-09 11:14:14 -0600 Report

Howdy Dr John

Thanks for sharing your chart. I am sure it took a lot of time to put together.

However, I do not understand what you are trying to do or show with your chart.

I see the yellow highlighting, but cannot make sense of it.


could you explain, please, what you are trying to get at when sharing your chart with us?

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