Being sick and Diabetes

By TsalagiLenape Latest Reply 2012-12-12 08:38:13 -0600
Started 2012-11-12 09:47:52 -0600

Well recently in the last few months I have had two bouts of pneumonia and one staph infection. I really dont want to get sick again. However during this time my A1C was done. The doctor was upset but gee whiz I was sick twice the very least. I had a A1C of 9.4 not good whatsoever. So instead of asking me or talking to me to help me get it back in the norm like below 7 he put me on more glipizide er. Ok I can see the sense of that. However, he forgot to factor in the illnesses I had. So now not sure what else to do other than what I orginally planned which is to tweak my daily intake of food and thus make my body a working machine. So does anyone else see what I mean? Any comments please. I would appreciate it. Btw the stress factor is still on high until I hope to get a job at least.
Thank you

41 replies

Bfbacon 2012-12-10 11:42:42 -0600 Report

Take more insulin to compensate for illness and stress. Test more often. IME, the higher sugars only occur at the beginning of an illness like a cold. A stressful event can send the sugars skyrocketing fast. I can feel it. If you feel stressed, test and take insulin to compensate. Obviously, avoid illness and manage the stress…

Jake Levinthal
Jake Levinthal 2012-11-15 15:34:24 -0600 Report

Joining diabetes sites and advice sites have been helpful. Besides DC, I also joined HealthTap to ask doctors about questions I don't know. It's free and I can also see doctor ratings there. You can learn more about it at if you don't know about it already! Hope this helps. Best of luck!

maclover1524 2012-11-15 12:06:11 -0600 Report

Hi TsalagilLenape
Check with your pharmacist. In my study and research on diabetes, glipizide is known to work by making your beta cells work harder to produce more insulin. Ah, the result of that can be the burning out of the beta cells. You and your doctor should read, "Diabetes Solution" by Richard Bernstein, M.D. I have no affiliation with Dr. B except that he saved my husband's life over 10 years ago. My husband (5'9") weighed 280 pounds, was on 43 units of insulin, had severe neuropathy in both feet that limited his walking to no more than 75 feet at a time. He had severe sleep apnea, night sweats due to hypoglycemia, was irritable and angry often and so much more. I read Dr. B's book and it set me on a path of research and study about this illness. I created a program for my husband. Within 3 months he was completely off insulin within 9 months he lost 80 pounds and has since lost another 20 for a total weight loss of 100 pounds. His neuropathy has been eliminated - walked in 2 5K races and at Disney this summer he walked from 8:30 a.m. until 11:45 p.m with only a short 2 hour break in the afternoon. My favorite photo is him getting off the monorail at 11:45 p.m with a huge smile on his face. you can see before and after photos at our web site but I can't post it here. :(
Diabetes is the ONE illness that WE have control over!!! and it's not controlled with more and more medication. My husband has been insulin free for 10 years. He has come off of diuretics, Naproxen and Neurontin (pain meds), and statin drugs. He weights 180 pounds an his fasting blood this morning was 94. 10 years ago his morning readings were in the 200's. Read Dr. B's book. God bless

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-15 12:35:51 -0600 Report

Well I do have an appointment today with my regular doctor. Have to reschedule the one with the Diabetic Nutritionist. Otherwise, have housecleaning to do. Hope you all are doing good. Thank you for the helpful replies. Hugs

Set apart
Set apart 2012-11-15 06:00:10 -0600 Report

Sometimes I think it's so easy for our docs to take action and think that we have backslid because of our A1c. My BG levels take a spike even if I am stressed, I even can be dreaming in my sleep and a bad dream can cause numbers to spike, (my belief). It's easier to make judgement, but uless you've lived in the world of D, a person really has no clue! Take care my friend and good luck job hunting!

Jan8 2012-11-13 11:17:30 -0600 Report

While sick my glucose goes sky high too. Between the diseases and the need for more insulin I say the darn A1Cs don't count. You can't help it and you arent causing it. I understand completely what you mean. What's up with a doc who would get upset over an A1C ?? It's normal for the body to do this!! Carry on Tsal.

maclover1524 2012-11-15 11:57:33 -0600 Report

Hi Jan8
While it is "normal" for a body to give you a spike in blood glucose during an infection it is still not acceptable. And the Ha1c does count - it counts big time. The Ha1c is a great barometer for letting you know what your blood sugars have been for the last 3 months. While taking a finger stick reading will vary depending on when you last ate and what you ate, the Ha1c goes directly to your red blood cells (which live about 120 days or 3 months). Those red blood cells tell the comprehensive story about how you're doing. Blood glucose that is not used by your cells becomes glycated or stuck if you will to those red blood cells. The Ha1c test reads the amount of glucose that is glycated to those red blood cells. There's no fudging (pardon the pun) that reading. Oh and those red blood cells are protein based and are typically smooth and slippery. They pass by each other easily - slipping along. When the glucose becomes glycated or stuck to those cells - well, that's not a good thing. They no longer have the ability to slip by each other and can become stuck together. All of that does not make for a happy body. :( That's why doctors get upset about a rise in Ha1c. Unfortunately, getting upset about it doesn't do a dang thing for the patient. Read Dr. Bernstein's book, "Diabetes Solution" I have no affliation with Dr. Be except that his book saved our lives when my husband was so ill with diabetes 10 years ago.
Hope this helps. God bless.

Jan8 2012-11-17 06:57:29 -0600 Report

My endo knows that any new med esp antibiotics and prednisone make my Bg go sky high so I am on a sliding scale and that doesnt always work. Any infection I get also does the same. My body is just too sensitive to lots of meds so when I am sick blonk goes my A1C.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-11-13 09:10:27 -0600 Report

I was wondering what happened to you. Glad to see you back with us. Sorry to hear you have been ill. You can get a Pneumonia shot and now you can get back on track and get your numbers down. I know what you mean about a job. Been looking for one since June.

Two crazy woman potted to do something to someone and needed my sister and I out of the way so she filed restraining orders against us. After two court hearings where she didn't appear we had our records expunged. I have to wait until the first of the year for it to be removed from the court system before applying for any jobs requiring a background check. However, last night I got a part time job doing billing for a contractor from home. I might see how this turns out and find a way to turn it into a home based business. Good luck to you my friend.

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-13 12:38:24 -0600 Report

Well I am glad things are working out for you. I have been either sick or sick LOL Plus looking for a job as well. Before I get my pneumonia shot I think I will see my regular doctor first. Then go from there. Thank you and Hugs

GabbyPA 2012-11-12 18:56:24 -0600 Report

I would say you need to talk to your doctor. What I have done in the past with mine is bargain. I ask him to give me the 3 months to get it back in control before upping meds. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it is just my body not working well with my goals. But he will give me time to fix it myself, and I do appreciate that.

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-13 12:39:23 -0600 Report

With my regular doctor I do just that but this is the Endocrinologist. Only had him for like only six months. So I will get things back to normal then tell him how I did that. LOL Have a great day Gabby! Hugs

mmccance 2012-11-12 14:27:02 -0600 Report

No fun!! I just discovered something called Elderberry extract that I am planning on using when my next bout of flu shows up. It is an herbal remedy that researchers are saying works as well as a flu shot. If you'd like to read about it here are two articles:

God bless

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-13 12:41:55 -0600 Report

Actually I do a lot of native medicines on my own. Yes Elderberry is good for many things. I havent had time to go pick any and not sure right now I could because of the pheasants and bears that usually eat them. When berry picking time was I was down low with the pneumonia. I hope to get things this month so I can make boilo which in these parts is like an English Hot Toddy but for coal miners. Yes I live in the coal mining region. LOL I will try to find the books I know that would help all of us with good medicinal plants. Hugs and THank you

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-11-13 08:57:01 -0600 Report

Marcia, my mom made Elderberry wine and people have been drinking the tea for ages and ages. I didn't know there was an extract. Thanks for posting that.

Set apart
Set apart 2012-11-15 05:56:13 -0600 Report

Hey guys will this work to keep the immune system strong? Just wondering…

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-11-15 09:29:02 -0600 Report

I don't know Set. Mom never gave it to us. She use to also make homemade wild cherry wine. She would put it in Cod Liver Oil. She gave us a tablespoon every morning from the day school started until the last day. We rarely caught a cold during the school year.

Turtle 2012-11-12 14:16:09 -0600 Report

I was getting pneu. frequently because I have GERD and the Dr. finally figured out that perhaps when I reflux, I accidently get some in my lungs..gross, I know. So now, I am on 2 meds. for gerd. So, do you have a reflux problem? Could you be accidently inhaling at the wrong time? If so, a good talk with your doc might be advised. And I agree, get that shot for pneu. you can get it with your flu shot.

cheetah1976 2012-11-12 12:13:33 -0600 Report

Have you taken a pneumonia and Tdap shot?

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-12 12:15:41 -0600 Report

No I havent and I got pneumonia in July and August. I have to get my flu shot but dont look forward to that either.

cheetah1976 2012-11-12 12:16:42 -0600 Report

I found that when I get the shots, I have fewer bouts of illness

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-12 12:25:28 -0600 Report

I normally do but getting the pneumonia and staph infection I was not ready for it when it happened. I usually get something like that in October not the end of July! LOL Hugs

Linda crutch
Linda crutch 2012-11-12 11:25:02 -0600 Report

When you have pneumonia, they normally give you steroids, which, will raise your blood sugars substantially. Don't get discouraged. Stay healthy and prove to your dr that you are in control.

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-12 12:18:38 -0600 Report

I wasnt given steriods but all the same come on they think I was not taking care of myself when I couldnt because I was seriously sick. So now I am going to get myself in order and hope to get back to shedding some pounds along the way. THank you!

Lambgirl 2012-11-12 13:49:40 -0600 Report

get the shot and try to stay away from people are sick . Take 1000 of vitamin of c this will help . good luck .

TsalagiLenape 2012-11-13 12:44:26 -0600 Report

Tis funny you mention that one Lambgirl cause the person I did unintentionally get sick the first time ended up giving it back to me. Yet wont let me come into their house cause I am bringing the sickness. Bad part is they are a preacher and his wife. So now I simply stay away. Yes will up the Vitamin C but naturally if I can. Hugs