SI and high blood sugar

Jim Edwards
By Jim Edwards Latest Reply 2012-11-02 16:00:34 -0500
Started 2012-10-26 10:58:08 -0500

I see an SI guy (structural intergation, trade name Rolfer) for my back, neck and other physical restrictions. On 5 different occassions I have found my blood sugar to drop, on the average, 70 points after he works on me. Example yesterday I was 146 going in. An hour later I was 72! heck, if I could afford to have him follow me around, I would not need insultim! So, an SI person works primarily on the muscles and ligaments and a bit of the bones, so he is like a massage therapists and chiropractor in one! So, to all of you that see a chiropractor or a massage therapist, take your sugar before and after and see if there is much change. I know the SI works for me and wonder about the other non-drug methods.

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Fefe12 2012-10-31 13:10:15 -0500 Report

If this is similar to a massage and your muscles are being worked, wouldn't that be the same as exercising? Your bs is suppose to go down after exercising.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-11-02 10:21:08 -0500 Report

It is more aggrssive than massage. The basic idea is to get the muscles, tendons, bones and all the other stuff, to work like it is suppose. If you have a pinched nerve and you exercise, you can make it worse. An example is last year in Feb, I took a real bad fall on the ice. Think of the ice skating triple, double lux or something like that. Anyway, I was off the ground by 4 feet according to my wife, then crashed onto my left side. 5 ribs out, muscles and tendons twisted and who knows what else. With the first visit I was able to take in deep breaths without any pain and another 2 visits had me functioning fairly normal again. If you want to know more about this my daughter's site is
I am sure she explains it better than I can. Sadly, we are on opposite sides of the US!

Nick1962 2012-10-31 16:24:28 -0500 Report

Well, sort of. Jim probably has a better explanation, but from my research (and my chiropractor) it is targeted at specific muscles for specific amounts of tension for specific amounts of duration. In my case a T.E.N.S. device is used to stimulate my right gluteus. Exercise is a lot less discriminate, and when you have a misalignment of the spine (in some cases as little as a 1mm misalignment can be the difference between pain and no pain), micro-management is usually best, because our bodies naturally try to compensate for pains, usually overcorrecting and creating yet another misalignment elsewhere.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-11-02 10:23:37 -0500 Report

Nick, I use a TENS unit to target specific trouble areas. Supposedly you need an RX, but I purchased one from LG Medical Supply in NJ. If you buy one, get some extra pads. They are not expensive, but separatly, the shipping is high.

Nick1962 2012-11-02 11:04:10 -0500 Report

I have a very basic 9v unit I got used (shhhhh) from a "person" who was upgrading. Use it maybe once a year, but recently have developed some issues and using it a lot more with little relief.
Technology is amazing. the first time I was hooked up to a TENS it was this huge thing they rolled around on a cart with pads as big as my hand. this one is no bigger than an Iphone.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-11-02 11:33:50 -0500 Report

YEAH, That is the one I have. It gives new meaning to "It's the amps, not the volts that matter". I sometimes wear mine on my belt, always on my left side. For some reason, I had it on my right side. Went to turn it off and turned it all the way up. Want to see a white guy break dance? Funny, after the fact.
Try replacing your battery. Hook it up to someone you don't like and test it!

Nick1962 2012-11-02 11:44:00 -0500 Report

I lost the battery cover to this one long ago. I bought a 12 piece brick of 9v's and lately have been draining one/week. Mine has a 10 minute limt, but I can usually be up to full power in 4 minutes. My problem is hair and conductivity. But yeah, it is pretty freaky to sit there and make body parts move by remote control, and you do quickly learn where your muscle groups are.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-11-02 12:21:30 -0500 Report

Mine is at full power from the start. I am pretty sure it can be for at least an hour. One 9 volt last me about 6 months with using it twice a week. You can always use Nair for the hair! Afriend of mine challenged me on the involuntary movement. So, I did what any friend would do. I hooked him up. Ended that challenge! He was in disbelief as his arm twitched and moved. Oh what fun. Why didn't the military use these in Gutamino Bay? No marks and lots of fun!

Nick1962 2012-11-02 14:28:24 -0500 Report

Yeah, I thought about hair removal, but it always is itchy as it grows back. Itched for weeks after my last EEG. A good thick layer of Biofreeze usually gives me enough conductivity but the pads slip off real easy then. My wife won’t let me come near her with the thing. I put one pad on her forearm and she freaked out at the results. I keep threatening to hook her up in her sleep. It would make a great torture device Always wanted to see what happened if I hooked it up to my head. Maybe I’ll kktth ffhye wwoooo tkk ffft spppppppth

Nick1962 2012-10-26 12:02:38 -0500 Report

My chiropractor uses similar methods and I've noticed similar results (but she does get my blood pressure up some). If I can ask Jim, do you have lumbar issues? I've recently developed some that she can't seem to relieve. May have to look into a licensed SI.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-10-26 12:21:51 -0500 Report

Yes, L5, S1. My primary problem is my sacrum keeps twiating off base. This is from an accident I had at 28 (now 58) where I almost severed the top part of my torso off the bottom part. (Now why did everybody just wince?)
SI folks are not the easiest to find if you don't live near a large city. My daughter, Karin, may be able to direct you to one in your area if you contact her. The best to you. Jim

Nick1962 2012-10-26 14:27:51 -0500 Report

Thanks Jim. We have an advanced certified one here locally.
My problem is similar (but not quite as violent). I tend to twist left and the disc between L4 & L5 is about shot. Primarily from being overweight all my life, but a few accidents as well. Can't tell if what's left of the disc just isn't enough or if it's herniated. Supposed to have an MRI, but also have staples in my belly which might just make me explode like a scene from Alien. I'm hoping they're aluminum staples.

Nick1962 2012-10-26 19:22:16 -0500 Report

Thanks James, that's helpful. I really couldn't find anything that specific. Didn't help that my PCP couldn't give me a definte answer either.
While I have considerably more than 5 staples, I'm also considerably larger than a pig's foot too. I did find out that since 2001 MRI's have become less magnetically powerful (I think I'm only getting hit with .5 Teslas vs the 1.5 tested on the pig's foot in your link).
Re: aluminum, my father had aluminum parts in his wrists - war injury, and that's all they had the time to fashion with at the time. I only remember him having them worked on once. He also worked in a electrical generating plant where they wouldn't even let you wear pants with zippers if you went near the turbines. Gratefuly, lots has changed.

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