So confused

By herigoagain1 Latest Reply 2012-10-18 06:13:15 -0500
Started 2012-09-24 07:46:47 -0500

I am sure this subject has been beaten to death on here but I am getting very upset. I had my numbers under control and ran from 95-105 and now they are around 135. If I eat something I know I shouldn't and expect it to be high its not. If I tow the line and watch what I eat its high. This is just frustrating. I notice mood changes with it too. I get overly upset at times but I can't help myself. I just get so aggravated when I try so hard and the numbers get higher …

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annesmith 2012-10-11 02:43:10 -0500 Report

Oh, don't be so hard on yourself! You must be a die hard perfectionist, ha,ha. You are trying to shoot for perfect non diabetic numbers everyday, and I think it's great, but, it is not realistic…ha,ha. Okay, maybe some out there will not be happy with my statement on that. Seriously, if I were you I would set my goal at an A1C of below 7…just keep it at that. Don't worry if you hit 135, 140, 150..heck, I go over 150 everyday ( I realize I need to improve), but you'll be okay so long as you don't go over 200 every day. ANNE

JSJB 2012-10-11 03:15:12 -0500 Report

You said a paragraph full annesmith. Keeping it under control is all our goals.

annesmith 2012-10-12 00:28:47 -0500 Report

Thank you! I always focus mainly on preserving my vision and my limbs. That is the core of what I focus on. If I get too caught up in details, I lose site of my most important goal, which is to make sure I never go blind or lose a limb. I have seen and read about some serious cases of diabetes, in which the person ended up without a finger—yep, the sugar can eat away at the nerves in your hands, or a person that kept eating out everyday, and even though she took her insulin, she died around age 67 or 68. Going back into the late 1980s, I knew a man that was an alcoholic for years—very nice man, no doubt, but unfortunately he kept on drinking a whole bottle of red wine a day. He would take his insulin to counteract the alcohol, had been in the hospital several times. They kept upping his insulin. When he reached the age of around 53, he landed in the hospital again. Again, his blood sugar hit 700. He went into a diabetic coma. They increased his insulin to the highest amount ever. He died right after they increased his insulin. His body shut down. ANNE

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 11:30:07 -0500 Report

The best thing to do is to stop getting aggravated. This leads to stress and stress can change your moods. If you are getting overly upset and can't control it, you may need to speak with a therapist.

The lack of exercise can have an effect on your blood sugar. If you are eating things and your sugar level is high after eating it, you should take a walk before or after you eat it.

It seems you are allowing diabetes to control you, which leads to aggravation, frustration, anger, stress and mood swings. You are the only one who can stop this, otherwise you are going to continue to have this problem. You are actually getting mad at how your body reacts to the foods you eat. The problem is, you don't always know how your body is going to react. I can eat something one week with no problem. A month later there is a problem with that same food. So I modify what I eat if I know I am going to eat a particular food. For instance, I love corn on the cob in the summer months. I eat an ear with dinner every day. So I won't eat any kind of bread and add more meat or green leafy veggies with it. If it is really hot out, and I am not in the mood for eating, I eat the corn and the meat and take a walk. I don't have a problem when I do this. I have the problem when I don't take the walks.

I was frustrated the first few months after diagnosis because every now and then my sugar levels would rise and fall after I ate. Then I realized, if I spent my time worrying about this and stressing out, it was playing a role in the rise and fall of my sugar level. That was when I realized I was letting diabetes control me. It took a week to stop doing this. Now I don't focus on being diabetic and my numbers are fine 90% of the time. I still have highs and lows but not as frequently as I use to.

Lentyl 2012-09-27 14:11:47 -0500 Report

Have you considered what your relationships are on any given day? Perhaps you might be having more difficulties some days and not on others.

It took me a while but I finally stopped obsessing about numbers and felt better as a result. Now I look at all of the food that I am able to eat and keep my numbers in a good range. Makes my day!

dirtydamon 2012-09-26 20:00:21 -0500 Report

I have this common problem. Lots of people find themselves approaching with a perfectionist point of view? Life will always show up! Staying in touch with yourself and keeping a food,medicine, and exercise. Diabetes is a disease. Most days I'm to depressed to get out of bed. I've learned that its not my fault. That's all I need to know!

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2012-09-26 18:16:05 -0500 Report


I just wanted to second a few of the comments that you have received. There is a connection between stress and physical health. So I would also encourage you to, in addition to your diabetic self-care, focus some attention on managing your stress. Relaxation techniques can help. So can getting support, e.g. calling a friend. And reminding yourself that this is a process, that you are working to get answers, and that you are doing everything you can to take care of yourself, can also help. Getting informed helps beat stress, you are in the right place for that!

Take care!


Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-09-25 10:49:00 -0500 Report

I would like to buy your numbers from you! Even your 135! It is aggravating when your numbers do not respond the way they should. In addition to stress, there are many OTC medicines that you may take for cold or allergies that will effect your numbers. So when you look at your numbers, don't only look at your food intake, but also your prescribed and OTC meds. One prescribed med, Crestor, was responsible for 150-200 of my BS points! I was about ready to just stop all of my meds, including my insulin and let happen what would happen. When I ate well all day and then get a BS of 350+ at night, 3 hours after my last meal, I was about to give up. Then I got leg cramps, real bad, while walking in a store. Called the doctor, he called back and said to stop the Crestor. Which I did.
In 3 days I was beginning to see my numbers under 150 and sometimes under 100. So hang in there and figure out what is messing you up. If 135 is your high number, I don't think you need to worry. Jim

MAYS 2012-09-25 13:36:51 -0500 Report

Let's bid on them!
(The low blood glucose numbers, that is!)

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-09-26 09:38:24 -0500 Report

Ok. I will start the bidding at $15 a month for any number below 135!

alshightech 2012-09-28 15:02:50 -0500 Report

I haave the same problem, Most of the time I can not consume any starch, Potatoes, pasta or bread of any kind. ! slice of w wheat toate or 1 small potato could raise my sugar to 200. This is with just a cup of instant coffee with Spllenda. then a week later I could eat a complete potato or slice of toast. I am on 36 units of insulin every night and * mg Glimepride \ Metformin. Every morning my sugar is near or above 200. The emdrocologist just tell me that it is out of control and they are working on it. But now I do not have any close visits and it is all done by fax & email.

Type1Lou 2012-09-24 17:03:25 -0500 Report

Stress, in and of itself, can also cause your blood sugars to be higher. I know what you mean, though, about the variability in readings. I will eat the very same breakfast and lunch most days…you'd think that I would get the same BG readings, all other things being equal…but surprise!…they will vary greatly…I still haven't figured it out, even after 36 years…but I keep on trying to manage as best I can.

GabbyPA 2012-09-24 20:51:03 -0500 Report

I have to agree with Lou. It is crummy and the more aggravated we get the higher we go. That is one cycle we need to break. Sometimes just getting a moment to relax or breathe is good. Close your eyes and drift off to a happy place for a while were the big D doesn't rule your life.

Sometimes it can also be that you ate something that is lingering. Some foods high in fat can last a couple of days in our system causing high numbers.

Another thing is just that our bodies are getting adjusted. Mine does that with my meds. I am really great for a few weeks, and then my body just gets used to them and I am back where I started. That is a most frustrating thing for sure.

Keeping a journal and writing down all things like food, exercise and numbers are great. But also look at mood, illness, even the weather can affect your numbers. If you write those things down, you can find patterns you didn't know were there.

awakening2health 2012-09-24 15:54:21 -0500 Report

Maybe stressing about your blood sugar raised it! Adrenaline and Cortisol - stress hormones, raise blood sugar! It's good to be on top of your blood sugar, but stressing about it can make things worse.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 11:33:36 -0500 Report

I totally agree with you. You simply don't know how your body is going to react to food on a daily basis. Like Lou said you can eat the same thing for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day and get different readings each day.

When you stress about things your sugar level will change. Letting go of stress, anger, frustration and stop worrying about things you can't control will help blood sugar levels.

herigoagain1 2012-09-24 09:02:07 -0500 Report

You make good sense. Thanks Nick for always being here. I appreciate it. Just having a bad time mentally right now. Visited my brother the other day and he made the statement how he is happy to have his health and I almost came unhinged…not like me.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 09:21:12 -0500 Report

I’m just the middle man passing on the wisdom from point A to point B and happened to be here at the right time.
I know what you mean about frustration. We were at dinner this weekend sitting next to a table of teen girls who spent 20 minutes complaining about how the miss this food and that food, and had to watch their diets because they’d “break out” or their hair got all weird. Made me want to jump over to one of them and zap her with my lancet and say “there, how’s that compared to a pimple huh?”

Anonymous 2012-09-24 12:35:48 -0500 Report

They have no idea do they…My favorite is the 100 pound person who can't eat something because it will go straight to their hips. Sounds like they need more help in their heads. If they had to go thru the daily ritual of sticking themselves they would find something else to complain about.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 15:02:54 -0500 Report

Sadly you're right, but life will eventually come around and smack them just like it did us, so I'll forgive them their moments of stupidity.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 08:16:53 -0500 Report

Numbers seem to be the popular topic recently. Through all the discussions here’s what I’ve learned: Anything and everything on your skin at the test site can throw numbers off. Some people discount the first drop of blood and claim that changes it as well. Your meter can be up to 20% off, so 135 could be realistically anywhere from 108 to 162. I’m really anal retentive so I always used to treat the numbers as absolute. It pains me, but now I just look at them as a trend in the big picture.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 11:43:17 -0500 Report

Nick, I learned that I can't change the number once it is there so I have to live with it and hope to get it lowered. Any number of things can contribute to the number. I read about discounting the first drop of blood. I tested that theory and tested the first drop followed by the second drop and got no change.

My numbers can range anywhere from 90 to 125. My doctor told me not to worry unless the numbers is over 180 on a daily basis. I have not been as high as that since the first 4-5 months of being diagnosed. I no longer stress over anything under 135.

Nick1962 2012-09-27 12:04:04 -0500 Report

Yup, you're right Joyce, once it's in the meter it's there. When I was first diagnosed, I tested like crazy and my numbers were all over the place at all times of the day, and it's not just food that makes those numbers rise and fall. Daily testing is good, especially in the begining, and the more often the better if you can afford it, because it shows you the trends and what foods to absolutely avoid. In the end though your A1c is going to tell the real picture of how you've done overall.

I still freak a little when I see things over 135, but now I know to test an hour later to make sure it's gone down. I hit a 171 after dinner last weekend, but was back at 85 two hours later, so i guess I'm good.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 12:28:29 -0500 Report

I don't freak at all because I know it was my fault that I ate something I should not have. We cannot control every aspect of our lives, if I did, I would live in a perfect world. We certainly can't control how our bodies are going to react to foods we eat. We can control not getting upset about it.

Testing daily is good. I only test once a day I do a week of fasting and a week of end of day. I only test twice if I feel my sugar level is high if it is getting low, I know I need to eat something because I forgot to eat.

Nick1962 2012-09-27 13:38:03 -0500 Report

I agree with that. Even if I had complete control over everything, I'd be too overwhelmed to be living.
Doctor said as long as my A1c keeps coming back under 6, I don't have to test, but i still do, cuz I like to know what my limits are. Especially on vacation.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 20:23:25 -0500 Report

I agree I would be too overwhelmed to be living. Once something is routine, it is hard to break it but as long as you are doing great, don't worry, be happy :>)

Proud Army Mom
Proud Army Mom 2012-09-26 07:54:08 -0500 Report

Nick - this post (which I copied and pasted and e-mailed to myself so that I can re-read it as the need arises) has really helped me keep things in the "big picture" perspective. Being a somewhat anal-compulsive person, I was really "over-managing" to the numbers, and frankly it was driving me nuts. Now I am trying to take a more global look at the readings and relaxing more about it all. As long as I am eating the way I know I have to and getting in my workouts, taking my meds, etc, I just have to realize that I am doing everything I can and should be doing. Obsessing over every # is simply not productive. It's all about balance.

Thanks again Nick for bringing me off the ledge a few times :)


Nick1962 2012-09-26 11:18:47 -0500 Report

Learning to treat my numbers as an abstract has been one of the hardest things a black-and-white person like me has learned to do. Although, in general, it was also a good life lesson I needed and helped me grow. This is one of those things that should be included in any newbie information package, because anyone like me looking at one single number and reacting to that is almost like packing up your picnic after feeling one raindrop on your head. If you test low just once and say “I need food”, you’re almost using food as fast acting insulin. Conversely, if you test high, suddenly it’s “I gotta exercise”. This will make you nuts.

Don’t know if you saw my little experiment here; but something really surprising happened. Right now, my advice to any T2 (that isn’t brittle of course) would be unless you’re crazy high or low, test again, and maybe again in 15 minutes. I also believe there is some psychosomatic repercussions of us (T2’s) knowing our numbers. A lot of times how we feel isn’t because of high or low NUMBERS, we feel bad because we are sick, under or over fed, have medication reactions, etc., and our numbers reflect that. One morning I ate half a pink grapefruit. Don’t like grapefruit, but it was all we had. I was sick and my number went crazy high. I blamed the number on the food, when in fact the reaction was due to the grapefruit and a blood pressure med I was on. I’m no longer on the med and haven’t had the reaction since (but I still don’t like grapefruit).

I feel sorry for anyone like me that started out so uneducated, and that’s why I like this site. It sifts through all the crap, junk science, and alleged “clinical” studies right down to what is real.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-09-27 12:50:10 -0500 Report

Nick my sister is on blood pressure meds. Several of our friends and family members also are on the same the med cannot eat grapefruit or drink the juice. It can cause an adverse reaction with the medication.

I think people read too much information and become overloaded. They read all the junk information and think it will work for them. First of all not every diet works for everybody. People have been successful with the South Beach, Mediterranean and Weight Watchers while others had no success with it. Just about every publication has a health adviser to write articles. Look at the source of the person writing the article. I found one on Yahoo and Googled the author. Turns out the author was simply a reporter and nothing more. Yet he was writing an article on diabetes with advice. The only advice a person with a health problem should take is that of a trained physician who is providing their health care when it comes to medications, symptoms and diet changes. What works for one person may not work for another and could cause you harm. Even your doctor won't know how a medication will react on a patient until the medication is taken. You should always check the source of articles to make sure the person writing the article is trained in the topic of discussion. Always check the references provided at the bottom of the page.

There is no cure for diabetes yet I have seen juices that claim this cure with testimonials from people claiming to have it. The worse are the ones that claim to reverse aging and wrinkles. I could grind up grass, add sand to it and get people to swear it removed their wrinkles and make a fortune. These kinds of things and the people who sell them are only out to get your money. Add to that the weight loss pills and drinks people spend money thinking they are going to lose 100 lbs in a month simply buy taking a pill or drinking something. The FDA and FTC do not regulate this. They know that people are gullible and suffer from vanity so they know they can sell this stuff to them.

Maybe we do need that cruise to solve the worlds problems…LOL

Nick1962 2012-09-27 14:02:46 -0500 Report

Yeah, I might just do a post on how to tell real info from fake. What bugs me is studies that use the words "may" and "can". Like "…eating an extremely low carb diet may lead to (insert dramatic illness here)". Come back to me when you have proof and can use the words "will" and "does" and the phrase "has been proven to".

So, where you wanna go? I'd sure like to go back to Bonaire and Curacao :)

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