Experiment; Eating off my diet V2.0

By Nick1962 Latest Reply 2012-09-24 14:50:33 -0500
Started 2012-09-23 16:00:35 -0500

Since my first one went pretty well, I figured it was time to try another “off my diet” experiment to see how I was holding up (first one here http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/15...). That and I have test strips about to expire.

This time we went out to a chain place called Jim & Nicks BBQ http://www.jimnnicks.com/ and I’ll reserve the restaurant critique. I love me some catfish, so my meal was 2 catfish fillets –“southern” breaded, a side of coleslaw (creamy), and another side of collards. I resisted the urge to have an app of onion rings, and a beer with my meal, but will admit to having about 3 of their little cheddar muffins, and of course picking some pulled brisket and pulled pork off the wife’s plate, as well as sampling some of their BBQ sauce (about 1 tbs. total). Washed all this down with about 32 oz. unsweetened iced tea.

All in all this wasn’t a terrible meal for a diabetic, it was all straight off the menu, and it certainly wasn’t the gorge fest I did the first time around. We ate from 6:15-6:45 and I started testing every ½ hour after the first hour (can’t test and drive) while settling in to watch another episode in the Millennium Trilogy on Netflix. I started out at 73, but then something weird happened:

6:00 73 (start)
7:30 171, 162, 155, 147, 151
8:00 123
8:30 110
9:00 91
9:30 85
10:00 91
10:30 94

About 9:30 it was time for my nightly snack which was a handful of lightly salted almonds both at 9:30 and 10:00 (wasn’t really hungry for them, but didn’t want to wake up low or high). Notice however my entries at 7:30. You see 5 numbers for a reason. That first 171 scared me since it’s been 4 years since I saw a number that high. So I washed my hands and tried again – 162, still too scary for me. Washed again and this time discounted blood – 155. Washed again, different finger, discounted blood – 147. Washed again (by this time I was frustrated) with different soap, different finger, no blood discount and….151. What the heck?

Well, my anal retentiveness relented and I gave up for the next half hour, and you can see the remaining results were pretty good. I woke up this morning at 8:00 to an 86 – around my usual – but what the heck was that 7:30 thing all about? My meter is usually only 2-3% off, which is why I like it even though it’s fairly low tech. I hadn’t starved myself all day in anticipation – in fact I actually took in few more carbs than I normally do, and had snacked on sliced ham and nuts most of the afternoon. Went through half a gallon of iced lemon water during the day, and between my hour on the treadmill, and 2 hours cutting grass, I was fairly active. So what was it? Just testing error? By rapid-fire testing did I just witness something that happens I never knew about? Could it be the diabetic’s equivalent of the “green flash” in blood glucose?


19 replies

jayabee52 2012-09-24 10:25:41 -0500 Report

wondering . . . you said "southern breaded". Is that different than "breaded" anywhere else and what would the difference in preparation be?

Nick1962 2012-09-24 10:41:57 -0500 Report

What they call “southern” breading is a fine cornmeal breading which actually is higher in carbs but oddly lower in sugar. Some recipes call for half flour and half corn meal, and I’ve used cornflakes, panko, pretzels, rice krispies, and even fine rolled oats. The basic preparation is the same (but they managed to screw it up), dredge in flour, then milk or egg wash, then crumbs/corn meal and fry.

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Set apart 2012-09-24 06:08:51 -0500 Report

Nick this is really interesting, I know one time my BG readings had been within the norm and then I checked as I regularly do and my BG reading was 247 scared me since I hadnt eaten or experienced anything to even come close to that kind of reading. I washed my hands and lo and behold I was at 92, checked again and it was 87! What a relief, who knows what I had on my fingers? This meal sounds great, of course I would have needed some insulin to cover these carbs! ;-)

Ms. DAT 2012-09-24 11:43:31 -0500 Report

Hi, Anne ! I feel like jayabee52 when he said, "learned something to day" because I didn't know that catfish runs up blood sugar- I don't care for catfish that much but I will eat nuggets with my family and coleslaw or green salad.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 12:12:07 -0500 Report

I think he meant the breading runs up the sugar. Catfish itself has no carbs, but breaded it can be as much as 16g., but because it's so high in protein, it gets absorbed differently than just straight carbs.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 07:56:04 -0500 Report

Honestly, I've had better catfish. But yeah, I'm learning not to put too much faith in just one test.

Kirla 2012-09-23 18:17:07 -0500 Report

What happened was the breading on the catfish, Sugar in the coleslaw, Sugar in the barbeque sauce and 3 cheddar muffins. All these will spike your blood sugar. I found by testing a lot, that after eating I will peak about 30-60 minutes after eating. If you were able to test at 30 or maybe 45 minutes after eating it may have been even higher. High carb starchy foods will spike you fast and will also drop fast after 1-2 hours. Your reading looked normal to me. They dropped nicely. If your reading were all over the place like going up one minute and down the next and back and forth I would maybe believe that your reading didn’t make since. But since each reading dropped off after the other I would say they probley were accurate for what you ate. Spiking your blood sugar once in a while isn’t going to hurt much. We all do it.

Nick1962 2012-09-23 18:31:03 -0500 Report

I tend to agree with that, but those test numbers at 7:30 were all within a matter of say 4 minutes. Is that possible in your experience? 20 points in 4 minutes?

annesmith 2012-09-24 02:58:26 -0500 Report

Hi. This is Anne. I am brittle, so my numbers vary even more than that. Being you are not brittle, it still is normal for the numbers to vary like that. I looked over your numbers. Yes, it is kind of a pain , I know. When I take mine, and they found the same at the doctor's office, my first number might be 180, then 10 minutes later it'll be 144, then 5 minutes later it might be 300. I have been working on trying to stabilize my numbers out more—it's never impossible to smooth out brittleness , but the brittle is always there. I ate too few carbs for so long, but yet, now that I started eating carbs, I see where I'm spiking way way way up—-interesting, but, makes sense. I would say for you to be careful of breading—I noticed that you said you had catfish—that'll throw your sugars higher for sure. Also, coleslaw throws mine way up—it's the sugar in it. ANNE

Nick1962 2012-09-24 07:52:31 -0500 Report

I would go insane being brittle. I made the mistake of being too low carb (and sugar) as well to the point that one slice of bread would spike me like crazy. In his kind way Jigsaw talked me out of that. I'm still under 75 carbs/day, but like you say, i spread them out so the spikes stay a little more even and smaller.

Kirla 2012-09-23 19:04:00 -0500 Report

I believe so. I used to test my blood sugar 1 hour after lunch. Then one day I tested around 30 minutes after eating. The reading was 179. At that time I haven’t seen a reading that high in over a year. At the one hour mark after eating I was at 85. Went from 90 to 179 to 85 all in less than 1 hour. That’s when I made sure I always eat some protein and fat with my lunch. I found that balancing my meals helps keep my blood sugar from spiking.

Nick1962 2012-09-24 07:46:58 -0500 Report

So I guess I just got lucky and hit that one spot where where things were really moving. Just kind of freaky to see that.