Honey Won't Raise Blood Suger....

Graylin Bee
By Graylin Bee Latest Reply 2012-09-06 23:52:03 -0500
Started 2012-08-30 15:30:52 -0500

Yeah, right.
Yep, that's what the beekeeper/chemist told me this morning. She was playing "Which hives did I put new Queens in" . When she opened one hive and removed a frame the honeycomb had broken it. She handed hubby some of the honeycomb. I hesitated saying I have diabetes. She assured me since honey is glucose the liver would filter it and no honey would get in my blood.
I estimated the amount of honey in a small piece of the comb to be within a q to w carb serving. So decided the desire to enjoy fresh honey for the first time ever not much of a risk.
Surprise (sarcasm) honey raises BG. I was 130 about 30 minutes later. Grabbed a handful of mixed nuts to eat as I continued to photograph the honeybees. 104 in another 45 minutes.
Maybe a biologist would have understood when I explained that the liver has a little impact on blood glucose.
The honey was awesomely great!

48 replies

jayabee52 2012-09-05 05:04:48 -0500 Report

I have just found this in the Natural News Newsletter about Honey and its many benefits to overall health and wellness

PLEASE NOTE WELL that this article is for GENERAL information and is not offered as a good source of food for People With Diabetes


Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-09-06 23:52:03 -0500 Report

Good article, James. Thanks for sharing. We use hoeny in tea with lemon juice at work during cold and cough season. At home I used to add garlic to the brew if the cold hasd me plugged up enough to make the taste combo not noticeable.
My wound care Doctor talked about using medihoney with pretty good results. Perhaps it might have been of use to Suzy when she suffered her awful burns.

Armourer 2012-09-03 15:00:31 -0500 Report

Sorry, I love honey but for my BG it spikes it big time!

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-09-03 20:07:49 -0500 Report

Yeah, I figured it was raise mine about the amount it did. I should have eaten the nuts right after the honey and maybe it would have worked out a bit better.

cottoncandybaby 2012-09-01 11:11:47 -0500 Report

I love a little honey in my hot tea, and have wondered how much it would raise the blood sugar. I figured a small amount would not be too bad, as it is so good…

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-09-03 20:12:27 -0500 Report

You might try testing your BG right before you start drinking your tea, then every 30 minutes for about 2 to 3 hours after that. The BG spike should occur before 2 hours, but some foods take a little longer to metabolize.
Maybe if you are a sipper rather than a gulper it might enter your system slow enough not to cause any BG spike.

pixsidust 2012-08-31 23:23:47 -0500 Report

I think you did pretty good with it. You know what to do when you indulge. Perhaps look for a recipe that combines the honey and nuts, perhaps using almond flour as well. Might be good.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-09-03 20:15:28 -0500 Report

Good idea, in fact I do use a little honey in some recipes. It lends a nice flavor in small amounts, whereas sugar just adds sweet. Then I substitute applesauce for the remaining sweet in some baked goods. Almond flour has been fun to use. Gets rid of all the AP white flour carbs and leaves room for using a little real sweetener.

Tony5657 2012-08-31 09:41:46 -0500 Report

I come from a family of apiarists (bee keepers) AND I LOVE honey, but had to slow down consuming it when the Dr. told me I was pre-diabetic. I just posted some antique 1930s pictures on my profile of my family's honey selling efforts. You might enjoy them. Colbert Brothers Gold Band Honey in Winter Haven, TX - now a ghost town. There's nothing better than fresh, raw honey.

GabbyPA 2012-08-31 21:34:13 -0500 Report

Nice pics! Those were the days.

Tony5657 2012-09-02 08:11:34 -0500 Report

Hey Gabby, those were the days before computers, microwaves, TV. :o) Seriously, it was a simpler time in some ways. We had no phone or A/C. But, I wasn't born until the 1940s so I wasn't hatched yet when those pic. were taken.

GabbyPA 2012-09-02 21:27:29 -0500 Report

Me either. But I know I was born too late. I should have lived my life about 100 years ago. I'm here now, so I do the best I can.

Coach Cheryl
Coach Cheryl 2012-09-01 12:03:35 -0500 Report

The best diet that has worked for me and it worked fast was the Mediterranean Diet from oldways.com It switches the food pyramid around to how we used to eat before disease. In 6 months my A1 went from 11 to 7, another 2 months down to 6.2 The doctors were amazed. The larger portions of vegetables (especially root veggies that regulate blood sugar) and fruit, decent amount of nuts and grains and low on dairy all work in combination to regulate not only glucose levels but blood pressure, cholesterol etc. Pretty amazing.

GabbyPA 2012-08-30 20:39:50 -0500 Report

I have had the fun experience of tending a hive of late and it is neat to see what those little jobbers do. But like you said, if you eat it just plain, there is no hope for a spikeless event. I have even tried the tueplo honey that is supposed to be diabetic friendly, and it really isn't.

I do believe there are great benefits to eating honey, but as a diabetic, I have not found a safe way to get it into my daily routine. I hope I will, with more practice. And you are so right about how raw honey is sooooo yummy! I love just chewing on the comb too.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 20:44:49 -0500 Report

many fond memories of chewing honeycomb and working hives as a young man.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 22:02:39 -0500 Report

Honeycomb was definitely better than the wax lips and cola bottles of my childhood.

Tony5657 2012-08-31 15:09:26 -0500 Report

Wax lips? Reminds me of my first date - she must have had several layers of lipstick. Sorry for another worthless posting…

RUSTY777 2012-09-03 15:19:43 -0500 Report


GabbyPA 2012-08-30 20:50:24 -0500 Report

I thought I would be more afraid, but the European honey bees are really quite docile and even when I had to right the hive after a bear knocked it over, I never got stung once. They are fascinating.

jayabee52 2012-08-31 19:42:11 -0500 Report

they are pretty docile IF they get used to people working with them, however in my years of dealing with beehives I came across a couple of hives which hadn't been worked in quite some time. They attacked me almost like the "killer bees". They came out of the hive body in waves. I got quite a few stings from them. It took several times of working with them before they got used to someone working them.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 21:47:15 -0500 Report

Oh my, I am so bear phobic you just gave me a panic attack!!!
I'd been wondering how your bees were doing. This was my 2nd day of watching photographing hive activity. It's been fascinating and fun.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 21:21:08 -0500 Report

yes they ARE fascinating! My 1st wife was allergic to bee stings but when we were just dating she insisted on going WITH me. She wanted from that experience to do a science lesson for her student teaching class. So I made a half hive box with a glass lid and one glass side. I then went to a hive and got a couple frames of newly laid honeybee eggs, and a couple frames of honeycomb to support the honeybees.

By the time my (now ex) got done teaching the science lesson the bees figured out that they had no queen. So they fed several of those newly laid royal jelly and made extra space in for the queen to develop. When I went to pick her up from her student teaching one night we discovered that at least two of the queens were chewing their way out of the capping. So we sat there and watched them hatch. Fascinating!

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 21:57:57 -0500 Report

That would have been neat to watch. Today I videoed a queen wandering around (probably she was doing something important but I don't know) with her loyal subjects.
Maybe you'd know the answer to this stupid question, James. About an hour and a half after we ate the honey both Hubby and I encountered a honeybee who decided we should leave the area. I was wondering, based on my BG reading, if perhaps the honey had metabolized and she may have picked up some scent from us. Up until then all the hive dwellers had been agreeable to ourhanging around their homes.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 22:04:06 -0500 Report

Did she (workers are genetically female) land and try to sting you, or did she just hover around you as if checking you out? ( I suspect the latter) she probably sensed the odor of sweetness on you and was checking you out.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 22:47:48 -0500 Report

No hover, repeated full force dive bombing. For such small fuzzy beeings she sure had some force, felt like hailstones. And she was the only one from over a dozen hives. She was whacking me in the back of my head, arms, and back.
I am used to the "oh hi how ya doin" stare. The almost fly up my nose to distract me just as I have a great shot of another bee lined up. The brushing of my arm as they fly past. The landing on my hand, arm, etc. because the see some pollen. No she had a message to send that was different from any I'd gotten from other bees.
I ruled out the possibility she was a Diabetic Alert Bee by taking my BG once we were in the car, without her despite her best efforts to get in with us.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 23:08:44 -0500 Report

if she REALLY meant business she would have landed and used her stinger on you. I had been attacked many many times! So many times I had become immune to bee venom. Didn't even get a red welt or swell up when I got stung. It sure had a bigger effect on the bee because once she stung me and pulled away her intestines stayed with the stinger parts and she died quite soon after that.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-31 09:05:40 -0500 Report

Maybe she just belonged to the same theater guild that the large hostile black colored non crow bird did. That bird decided to include only me out of a parkfull of people in its one bird performance of Hitchcock's "The Birds".
I better avoid locations and animate subjects of horror flicks.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 16:49:26 -0500 Report

On the farm on which I grew up we had honeybees. When I was old enough (my teens) dad taught me how to work with the bees, and I loved doing it.

I didn't know what kind of sugar honey was at that time but later learned (actually here on DC) that it was fructose.

Now because of how fructose is metabolized (ONLY in the Liver) it tends not to raise one's Blood Glucose levels as high real fast.

However one of the downsides of metabolizing fructose is it creates triglycerides in your bloodstream. The following article focuses on High Fructose Corn syrup, but may apply to honey (or Agave) also since it is about fructose metabolism. Read it here ~ http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-fructos...

Needless to say I have sharply curtailed my use of fructose of all kinds.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 18:57:20 -0500 Report

Thanks for the link, Seems juicing as a daily meal plan would cause a few complications according to this information.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 20:04:52 -0500 Report

i had thought about juicing, however if I start juicing I plan to use something like a Vitamix blender so I wouldn't lose the fiber I would normally lose with typical juicers.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 18:51:23 -0500 Report

Oh, James my head hurts. I was curious so did a quik gooogle search on honey. It has an almost 1:1 ratio of fructose and glucose. Also some claim it is similar to HFCS others say not so. And there were all sorts of numbers being thrown about with abandon.
Then I read that our pancreas has taste buds. That if these taste bud cells get the double hit of glucose and fructose they put out more insulin than if it was just glucoes. Also fructose on its own doesn't have the same insulin making response.
I posted a link to the taste bud article in the news section, but here it is
Knowledge is a powerful headache.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-30 15:33:23 -0500 Report

Oops using my smart phone. I failled to notice 1 to 2 came out as q to w.

jayabee52 2012-08-30 16:50:22 -0500 Report

(DUMB 'smart phone! LoL!)'

Tony5657 2012-08-31 08:10:08 -0500 Report

Yeah, ya gotta love the new technology. (I was wondering what "q to w" meant.) But then, I wonder around lots nowadays. LOL

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2012-08-31 08:57:02 -0500 Report

I wondered if you would wander into this discussion as a dude from a long bee line.
Was gonna ask you why one lone bee decided Hubby and I needed to be dive bombed repeatedly.
Had a raven, or some other species of largish non crow black bird take a dislike to me this Spring at a large park with many other people to pick on. It kept flying at me and flapping around my head making hostile sounds. Walked all over the park were other people were. Said bird continued to rush, flap, and say obscene bird things.
Maybe it was just doing a one bird re-enactment of Hitchcock's "The Birds." But I don't remember seeing any bee terror movie. Now I'm keeping a close watch on bunnies, I saw how they attacked in "Leapus", I think that's the movies title.

Tony5657 2012-08-31 15:39:54 -0500 Report

I have no idea why one single bee would try the Japanese kamikaze thing with you. My bee experience was at a very early age - like from walking age to 15 years old. Is there a bee psychologist in the group?

The only experience I had with kamikaze type bees was when I was quietly watching our bees go in and out of one of our hives/stands & something pissed them off. They attacked me with no warning! I got 31 stings out of that and some exercise out running them.

And you had almost the same experience with a bird? I suggest you wear a helmet while outside. LOL One with a face guard. By the way, I drive 2 antique/classic convertible cars and birds "dumping" on me is, … one of my worst fears. :o(