Order In The Court!

By Somoca Latest Reply 2012-09-14 19:47:46 -0500
Started 2012-08-28 23:32:12 -0500

Why must I hear how so and so lost alllllll this weight!…and their diabetes was gone (**snap, snap**) just like that. Really? Just once I would like to hear someone say, " Does it run in your family?" "I know its a struggle-sorry" but noooooo I have to hear that if I would lose just 30 or 60 lbs. My diabetes will just fly away like goose heading south for the winter. Well the goose didn't go and he left me a little "gift" under my shoe. Oh well. You ever have one of those days when you want to say HEY YOU, You're out of order. LOL

54 replies

awakening2health 2012-09-07 15:42:42 -0500 Report

Type two diabetes certainly has a genetic component. Having said that, it also is very strongly related to body composition - body fat is pro-diabetic; muscle is anti-diabetic. Diabetes is also strongly related to stress (cortisol and adrenaline).

Having said that - LIFE STYLE CHANGE - diet, exercise and stress managment - has been shown to be twice as effective as medication at reaching treatment goals.

I think that the mental aspect - dealing with stress and self-regulation is the key. Most doctors have no clue how to work with this central and important aspect of the disease.

judy makowski
judy makowski 2012-09-03 11:29:41 -0500 Report

I'm with you on this one. I had gastric bypass on the 27th of Feb of this year. They told me I probably would be off my insulin before I went home. Well it's 6 months later and I am still on insulinl. Don't get it either. I have lost 60 lbs and the doc is satisfied. Haven't reached my goal got about 20-30 lbs to go but have this feeling this is going to be a forever kind of thing. Frustrating. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

roxygyrl1970 2012-09-03 02:32:51 -0500 Report

I love this post. BUT I'm a little confused, first I thought it was the fairies, then the duck and now the frogs!! Which one of these guys are leaving me these presents I keep stepping in, instead of taking my D away. (I just figured out what D abbr. meant…LOL) I need to know so I can get my service dog Abby to chase them down and bring their king, so I can give him some presents of my own in return for the really "lovely" ones his subjects have left me. When someone figures out the true culprits, PLEASE make sure they let me know!!! And when we figure this out, we can have a party with them!!! Everyone has to make sure to BYOB (Bring your own BLANKET)!!

AuntieBear 2012-09-03 04:16:49 -0500 Report

The little presents are from the elephant named Diabetes that nobody wants to admit is lurking in the corner waiting to turn anybody and everybody's world into a dung heap of complications, medication, doctors, diets etc.
Ps: watch out for the Diabetes the Elephant's trunk. Everytime he sniffs or snorts he sucks the money right out of your wallet with the excuse of "you need meds" or "you need supplies."
(Yes I am having en emotionally rotten go of it these days!)

roxygyrl1970 2012-09-04 00:43:50 -0500 Report

Now it's an elephant king Abby has to catch? She's so little!! She better just get me and take me to him. I let everyone know where he is so we can have our blanket party with him. Maybe I should bring a taser just in case though. LOL. I should start carrying pepper too so that whenever he comes near me I can throw some in his face, so it makes him sneeze and can't get so much money. That elephant is slick. We need to get him and take him down!! He'll totally be out of business when they cure D. Hope that's soon!!

I hope I made you smiled today. I know what its like to have those rotten days and how much I love and appreciate it when someone makes me smile, even if it's only for a second.

Maybe you should carry some pepper too!! That elephants trunk needs it!!

AuntieBear 2012-09-03 04:16:40 -0500 Report

The little presents are from the elephant named Diabetes that nobody wants to admit is lurking in the corner waiting to turn anybody and everybody's world into a dung heap of complications, medication, doctors, diets etc.
Ps: watch out for the Diabetes the Elephant's trunk. Everytime he sniffs or snorts he sucks the money right out of your wallet with the excuse of "you need meds" or "you need supplies."
(Yes I am having en emotionally rotten go of it these days!)

pasumner 2012-09-03 02:11:24 -0500 Report

I believe this entire conversation just reinforces what I have read and come to understand on this site. That diabetes is very much an individual thing. What hold true for one, does not for another. Trying to convince my room mate of this. Enjoyed this conversation very much, with all the humor, that if none of you mind, I would like to 'barrow' some of. Of course this also carries over in much of life as well, as we all know. I will shut up now so as not to sound like an DBAN (thanks Gabby!! lol).

Somoca 2012-09-03 09:18:28 -0500 Report

I have noticed this also. We all have some type of Diabetes but it affects us differently.

Armourer 2012-09-03 01:30:21 -0500 Report

Love your post! When first diagnosed an endo doc told me to lose just 20 pounds and it would go away. Well, I lost 42 pounds and the diabetes became worse, for now I had to deal with the lows. Another doc stated, "Wow, good news, you really have diabetes!" Thanks, but can I pass on this.

roxygyrl1970 2012-09-02 21:08:06 -0500 Report

I'm a Type 1 but I totally get what your saying. People who know nothing about Diabetes are trying to give me advice and if I would just do this or that the magician would come and **POOF** my diabetes would magically disappear with the little fairy that will come and get it. Someone lied to me, they told me it was a fairy and not a goose that took away diabetes!! Man, no wonder I keep getting gifts that aren't fairy dust. I just thought she might have some potty training issues. I totally agree with you. I guess I'm suppose to say I CONCUR or something like that. Let me know.

Lil Bal
Lil Bal 2012-09-02 18:05:19 -0500 Report

So far i have lost around 2 stone and my diabetes has gotten worse. So hmmmm let me think losing weight helps. Nope!!

Nana_anna 2012-08-31 14:21:26 -0500 Report

I am with you on that! It does run in my family. Not sure if Diabetes is a genetic thing or not though. But it's highly made it's track in my family. I have lost 20 lbs this year. I have not noticed any changes at all with my numbers. I am hoping that when I lose more wt, the numbers will start changing for good. People are different though. That is just me.

mystikfairy61 2012-09-02 07:44:32 -0500 Report

trust me, diabetes is genetic. I have it, as well as both of my brothers. My mom, her mom, her mom's mom, thats as far as I know back, all T2. My dad was T1 but I have been told that T1 isnt genetic.

GabbyPA 2012-08-30 20:35:47 -0500 Report

Like anything that people don't deal with personally, there are all kinds of myths, even ones promoted by doctors, that are floating out there. Yeah, I lost 60 pounds and it didn't help much with my numbers. It helps with my pant size and confidence, but I still have those crummy glucose numbers. I have more to loose, but when I hear that if you just loose 5 pounds you will do better. Really? Not in my life anyway.

judy makowski
judy makowski 2012-09-03 11:34:49 -0500 Report

I'm with you Gabby. Each of us is different and I'm sure it affects us all differently. My friend sticks MD after my name, not because I'm a dr. but she calls me a medical disaster. My body doesn't do anything it's supposed to and I've gotten use to it. Sort of. At least it doesn't surprise me much any more. Everyone has their own "beliefs" that they try to pass off as gospel (especially if they don't have diabetes ) Then they are experts. Have you notice how many experts there are on this subjeact LOL

Tony5657 2012-08-31 06:23:14 -0500 Report

IF you lose just … Yup! and IF frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their little butts with each hop. "IF" is a big word, just like DIABETES. Both involve many variables. Too many for most to understand. Hang in there folks. Just to let you know, I pray for all of us daily. :o) Tony5657 in New Braunfels, TX

Tony5657 2012-08-30 17:30:44 -0500 Report

This is simply a forum with many different types of people with many different types/stages of diabetes, even pre-diabetes. Some will rejoice in victory, some are not as fortunate and will share their problems. Please accept that some will be victorious and some will not. That's just life, … when you're winning, you are happy and share. When you're losing, you're sad and share. Nobody here is out of order by sharing their personal experiences UNLESS of course they criticize you personally, trying to lecture you to "do this & don't do that." I hope that has not happened. Please lighten up and rejoice with the victorious and encourage those who are the less fortunate. I wish you the best my friend!! Tony5657

Tony5657 2012-08-31 06:06:42 -0500 Report

In my posting above, I forgot to suggest that all of us try our best to ignore those with DOM - (Diarrhea of the Mouth) and SPE - (Self Proclaimed Experts). They will always be around, spouting their ignorant venom. They don't have to ruin our day.

Nana_anna 2012-08-31 14:25:46 -0500 Report

Love the DOM! The SPE, have allot to say, but I like the DBAN—Don't BE A Noitall! LOL! That is right, don't let them ruin your day!

tabby9146 2012-08-30 11:35:01 -0500 Report

you are so right, and that bothers me too, when I hear people talk as it diabetes is completely gone. My story is that I lost all the weight, people can hate me if they want to, I only had 35 lbs to lose, just being truthful, NOT bragging, I am sure many resent me, that is fine. anyway I was not about to let D get the best of me, I was going to fight!! I got off metformin after a few months, slowly lost the weight too, not too quickly and that was in early 2009, I have kept all of it off so far…I still have diabetes. NEver for a one minute did I think I could just eat what I wanted or anything. I have been exercising at least a half hour per day most days, some days when I have time, it might be more. I watch what I eat most times, portion control , I do eat some thngs some may never touch ,but I watch how often and how much I eat. I was told in classes, we can have everything but in moderation except for sodas. I was shocked at this , as there are many like myself, who can't even have much no sugar added juice for example, I stay away from it. I probably get too much high fructose corn syrup at times, that is in almost everything ,I watch as much as I can. I work at it. I am proud of myself, but humble at the same time. I am proof that the numbers can change drastically with weight loss and these other changes. I want to give people hope. Mine was caught early, and I thank God every day that it was and that I had symptoms that sent me to the doctor. It runs in my family, I was adopted so I had no idea about that, until a few months before I was diagnosed, I found out that my birth father had it. Well I immediately began exercising again and the sugar cravings were bad then. Good luck to you. I lost the last part of your post, funny. Best wishes to all. :-)

tabby9146 2012-08-30 11:37:51 -0500 Report

ever since, I try to get the word out to people to get tested!! if they are overweight, and not even very much, and inactive, get tested, take the steps necessary. I don't want others to get this diagnosis. Many don't get tested but they were shocked as hell when I was diagnosed.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-08-30 11:01:28 -0500 Report

I think it is because of all the info out there about type 2 diabetes and weight being a big issue for it's cause. The treatment for it IS to drop the weight along with other things and if caught in early stages meds may be avoided or reduced. Now if you have had the diabetes for sometime and have been overweight as well, it is harder to do. If you watch and read what is available, the vast majority of type 2's are quite overweight so this is what non diabetics will say first. Now, I'm a type 1 and I follow a different path, but people don't know which one we are and I don't get the weight talk I guess because Mine is fine? I do get the you can stop taking your meds talk and I have to tell them no, I use insulin to live!

As long as you know what you are in need of doing and doing it, don't let what other's say upset you, we don't need the stress:)

judy makowski
judy makowski 2012-09-03 11:39:08 -0500 Report

And that's the truth. My brother thinks it's just another for them to get money and if I do this and this and this it will go away., Well it doesn't work that way folks. I think docs have a better understanding of the disease but there is still a lot to learn. My frogs have flown the acoop and return when they think it's time to give me a tune up

Set apart
Set apart 2012-08-30 05:34:30 -0500 Report

I get this one all the time, "bet you had to lose all kinds of weight, but you're doing good now.". They just don't get it that every day with D can be a struggle if you don't stay on top of it. It's the first thing I think about and the last thing I think about as I eat my snack before bedtime!

tabby9146 2012-09-02 08:44:27 -0500 Report

yep, they don't get it, everyone thnks I am just fine, even a few over the years say, "I am so happy you have over come the diabetes, or as one person put it, reversed it" I tell them, no I have not, I still have it and I still have to be very careful and I just leave it at that.

tabby9146 2012-09-02 08:45:53 -0500 Report

yes you can usually avoid all or most complications by losing weight and keeping with eating right and exercising, for sure. I learned that in class. I am very aware that there are some, no matter what they do, it is harder to control. I am lucky I had symptoms that sent me to the doctor quickly. many do not until they have had it a really long time.

Sunflower71 2012-09-02 16:30:54 -0500 Report

I also found out early about my diabetes and am glad I am not the only one with the same things you are talking about.

Somoca 2012-08-30 15:24:36 -0500 Report

I do also. when i get up, I pray then its D this and D that until I lay my head down. Its no picnic.

JSJB 2012-08-30 05:09:54 -0500 Report

When pre diagnosed in Sept 2011, I was never told that exercising and dieting would reverse this condition. So far I lost 45 lbs and exercise 20 min or more a day and it is still with me. I was told by doing the above that it wouldl slow the condition down and help prevent complications. You can not cure diabetes only control it. Unless they are medical professionals I ignore their advise and only listen to my doctor who is doing a great job in keeping it under control. My day will come when I do not have to take meds but I will still have this condition.

betsy_d 2012-08-30 00:19:15 -0500 Report

When I was first diagnosed with diabetes 2 about six months ago, I immediately started to diet and stopped smoking. I even found articles on the Internet about people who had "lost" their diabetes by losing weight. So far, I have lost over 30 pounds and am still on the same amount of medicine as when I first started, i.e., 2000 mg of Metformin. Although I am no longer considered obese by height/weight standards, my doctor advised me that if I lost "a whole bunch of more weight", I should have my blood work redone and maybe I could take one less pill of Metformin. (Actually smoking cessation probably had more to do with a more consistent blood sugar level than my weight loss.)

AF Retired 462
AF Retired 462 2012-08-29 20:49:00 -0500 Report

I get tired of that myself. If you lose weight you won't be diabetic anymore. I tell them "If you don't speak, you won't sound like an idiot anymore"
Not all diabetes is caused from being overweight.

pixsidust 2012-08-29 15:55:30 -0500 Report

I so hear you. My land lady told me that just last week and she is a retired nurse. I felt just like you do. Its hard enough let alone have
that kind of ignorance that its all our fault. Losing weight is proven to help
but unfortunately is not a cure! Its just callous to hear this sort of thing!

Somoca 2012-08-29 17:00:53 -0500 Report

The really sad part is that I have lost weight. I wore a skirt today that I almost had to rub down in lard to get into last year. But today, i pulled it on with ease and I didn't feel like a sausage roll. But I still hear those words…

pixsidust 2012-08-29 21:02:30 -0500 Report

Congratulations on the weight loss! I bet you felt great putting that skirt on! Its terrible to be put on the defensive. Who is doing this to you? A co-worker or family member?

Somoca 2012-08-29 22:49:42 -0500 Report

a co-worker. she didn't mean any harm. she knew when she finished her unwarranted infomercial that it wasn't going over well, so she changed the subject.

Set apart
Set apart 2012-08-30 05:38:07 -0500 Report

Hey girlfriend, congrats on wearing the skirt, what ever happened to those old black jeans? I gotta say thank you again, since our old club days I've kept up my regimen and added intensity! You are so special, HUGS!

Somoca 2012-08-30 15:31:28 -0500 Report

I have no idea what is going on with the jeans. I can wear every pair I have and they are loose, but that black pair won't budge. I am going back on the walk regiment and weight lifting this September. If I see no difference in those jeans by x-mas, they going ho, ho, ho out the door, lol. I mean it, lolol.

Set apart
Set apart 2012-08-31 05:48:15 -0500 Report

Oh well I did the same thing just the other day if I didn't wear it this summer it was donated! Gives me an excuse to buy something new! Lol. Those colored jeans for fall are looking really cute!!!!!!!!

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