Angry and Frustrated!

By genniedevera Latest Reply 2012-08-25 09:06:09 -0500
Started 2012-08-17 12:34:11 -0500

I am sooooo angry right now! My BS keeps dropping to a point that I get sooooo dizzy!!!!! I am so sick of this

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Set apart
Set apart 2012-08-25 09:06:09 -0500 Report

Hi Gennie, wow after reading all this, I don't think I can give you anymore useful information. I've learned more and have gained a bit of inspiration from this discussion, thank you! I've only been at this fir a year as a T1 and we seem to have something in common, we want to get it right every time we prick our fingers! I've learned although some days my old self peeks out, we can't always get those numbers right and stressing will add to higher BG readings, so just do your best! HUGS!

Hollywood 2
Hollywood 2 2012-08-21 23:30:34 -0500 Report

Hey Genniedevera,
It will all work out. Your sugar dropping is called hyperglycemic. It's where your sugar drops low and you begin to shake and get very dizzy. Yes it can be very Aggravating but after you learn how the feeling comes on you will day to day learn how to cope with it.when you begin to eat your sugar will rise up and you will begin to feel better and eventually afterwards you will get very sleepy and tired.I've found out in the past to talk with close friends we hang around and tell them to always be a watch of my actions and if something weird looks as if I'm acting strange get me something to eat. And when we begin to feel better of I should lay down check on me. Low sugar is as important to watch and take care of as high BS.
Anyway hope your having a great and awesome day today

genniedevera 2012-08-21 22:41:36 -0500 Report

Thank you all for helping me through this…I really do appreciate all the help and the guidance you all have been providing me…if you've seen my posts since day 1 here, you know I've been a wreck, emotional roller coaster…I truly am happy I found this community! I know I have long ways to go and lots to learn…thank you for your patience and understanding…

margokittycat 2012-08-21 18:38:59 -0500 Report

It sounds like the doctor did the right thing in dropping the dose of metformin. I know they told you that metformin would not drop your BS, but it does. My suggestion to you is in the afternoon around the time your BS usually drops, Buy the to go cups of Jiff Peanutbutter and carry them with you and eat one about half hour before your BS drops. Beings you are type 2, protien bars are good and you can do either of them. If you do regular ones make sure that there is no sugar in the first 6 ingredients in the bar. Hope this helps.

genniedevera 2012-08-21 22:34:06 -0500 Report

I did see my doctor today and they just did the referral to the Nutritionist. I have to wait a couple more weeks… right now it's researching and learning from everyone here…

genniedevera 2012-08-21 22:31:33 -0500 Report

Thank you, Margo!

margokittycat 2012-08-22 06:07:45 -0500 Report

Once you see the nutritionist, it will help but you will probably find it will take a while to get everything regulated out and to see which items of foods are trigger foods that increase BS levels and what foods don't, everyone is different so it is not the smae for anybady. Some of us can eat fresh fruits and veggies with no problems others can't and some can eat sweetcorn woth no spike in BS and others can't. Because no two people are alike and no two people have the same metabolism foods one person can eat with no problem doesn't mean someone else can eat .

genniedevera 2012-08-20 06:57:00 -0500 Report

Thank you George, Sherrie, Tony and Jigsaw…I truly appreciate you all for taking the time to help me with this… George I look forward to your article. I guess what adds more to my frustration is not knowing what to eat or how much or the combination of food I need to eat. It is almost 3 months since I've been diagnosed with type 2 and they have not sent me to a nutritionist that I keep asking for. When you say protein bars, does that mean reg protein bars or a diabetic protein bar? I don't even know carbs, how much or if it is good Carb or bad Carb…sugar I've totally cut off. I was exercising but didn't for 2 days because I'm afraid to have another dizzy spell. I weigh 115 and I am on metformin 250 twice a day ( they've recently cut it down it was 500). I was also advised this drug should not drop my BS, but it does… my spells usually happen mid-day, and for now I will try to snack before it happens on the same breath, I'm in panic mode bec I have no idea what to eat…to maintain my BS at good level…also I panic when I check my BS and it goes from 160 to 90s or 80s 2 hours later, I just know it will keep dropping… is that normal to stop that much? What is the norm?

SCLWKR 2012-08-20 22:56:12 -0500 Report

Start by getting the book "diabetes for dummies.". This will provide simplistic information you need. What kind of health coverage do you have? A diabetes education class should be an automatic referral from your doc. The class will answer so many of your questions. You can also get on line and find a community support/education group. Gennie, I am a professional social worker and I will research resources in your community. Please send me a private email and let me know your town and I will find some help for you. As I do this for a living, it is quite simple for me, whereas it can be confusing for the untrained person. don't panic sweetie, there is a lot to learn, but information is readily available. I'll help you. Hugs, Sherrie.

jigsaw 2012-08-20 06:17:06 -0500 Report

I thoroughly believe that most diabetic symptoms are manageable. It generally takes a healthy food plan, exercise, and meds if needed, and a strong belief in yourself. Add occasional monitoring by a good physician, and many people with diabetes do well. Of course, all these things must be done correctly, (and every individual is different) in order to be successful. I'm sure you can get your blood glucose under control.
I have been living with diabetes for 18 years, and I'm still learning! I'm also still fairly healthy with no complications from diabetes.
Pharmacist George has some great info in his post. Checkout what he says carefully, he's thorough, accurate, and helpful!

Pharmacist George
Pharmacist George 2012-08-20 01:58:25 -0500 Report

Hi GennieDevera,

Don’t be angry but there are good reasons why this is happening to you. I’ve addressed what you’re experiencing and how to stabilize blood sugar in several articles which will be posted at Living with Diabetes but I will give you a brief overview.

What you’re experiencing is hypoglycemia which is caused by several factors. You maybe on mealtime insulin and may not be eating enough complex carbs or skipping meals. You also maybe overestimating the carbs you’re eating and the insulin is dropping your blood sugar way low.

Or you maybe on drugs like Glyburide, Glipizide or Glimeperide and skipping breakfast. Other reasons are that you may not be eating enough fiber or you may not be structuring your meals and snacks properly to the order of having 3 main meals and 2 balanced snacks. You also may have become more physically active or started working out without properly monitoring your blood sugar or adequately replenishing energy.

Hypoglycemia is a low blood sugar attack caused by the side effects of some diabetes medications such as insulin and some oral medications to treat Type 2 Diabetes. Your fasting blood sugar needs to be ideally between 70 and 110 mg/dl. When you monitor your blood sugar you're not only doing so to detect high blood sugar levels but more importantly to find out how low it is. You don't want your blood sugar to dip below 70 mg/dl because you'll be in hypoglycemia zone.

When your blood sugar dips below 70 mg/dl you may experience any of following hypoglycemia symptoms: Nausea, shakiness, sweating, ill feeling, and dizziness. If you experience one or more of those symptoms then you need to immediately use Glucose tablets or other sugar sources such as soft drinks, fruit juices, sugary candy or milk. Stay away from chocolate, chocolate bars or peanut butter unless there are no other sources available.

It is imperative that you monitor your blood sugar periodically daily as recommended by your doctor to avoid this situation. When you monitor appropriately your blood sugar then you’ll be able to take appropriate actions and you will be in proactive state rather than reacting to what may occur.

Physical activity, weight loss, the quantity and quality of the choices of food, snacks, beverages, meal structure and snack distribution throughout the day are critical to stabilizing your blood sugar.

Aim at raising your daily fiber intake up to 30 or 35 grams and here’s a couple choices that will help get you there: 1) Fiber One bars by General Mills or Fiber Plus bars by Kellogg’s have each 9 grams of fiber.

My articles will give you more details on how to avoid hypoglycemia and how to rectify it. Take care.

Tony5657 2012-08-20 05:57:10 -0500 Report

Pharmacist George,
What an informative posting! Thanks! I'm going to try and find the "articles" you referred to in your last paragraph…Tony5657 in New Braunfels, TX

Pharmacist George
Pharmacist George 2012-08-21 22:53:52 -0500 Report

Thanks Tony for your input and glad to know the information I provided has been helpful. Be on the look out of those articles because I've addressed this same topic in detail from different angles in 4 articles that will be released one week apart. I have released several articles that address different aspects of diabetes control so make sure your read them too. Take care and let me know if you have questions.

Tony5657 2012-08-22 05:40:43 -0500 Report

George, thanks for taking the time to give us your valuable input! Regarding your future articles, I'm still learning this site so I hope I don't miss any of them. I think I'll ask you to be a "friend" and maybe that'll help. Tony5657 in New Braunfels, TX

SCLWKR 2012-08-19 23:54:04 -0500 Report

So sorry you are struggling with this. Hugs to you. If you notice you have lows at specific times during the day, try to "eat ahead of the low." in other words, have a carb and protien snack before you hit a low. LISTEN to your body. Respond to what it is saying to you. You CAN avoid lows with a little planning. I always keep emergency snacks with me. Protien bars, an apple, jelly beans for an emergency low. I know how my body feels when I go low. When I begin to feel myself going there I have a snack and plan to have a light, balanced meal within 30 minutes. I also do"front loading" if I am planning to exercise. Extra carbs 30minutes before exercise to give my body a readily available source of energy without having to tap my reserves and end up with a low.
I maintain a very hectic work schedule so I have to be mindful of keeping on a schedule with my meals so I don't find myself in a situation where I end up feeling like I am going to be in trouble. If I am conducting an afternoon meeting, I have an apple and a few pieces of cheese before hand, or if I am seeing clients all day, I make certain I have my peanut and granola bars to munch in between visits. Remember, think ahead of the low and keep your BS on an even keel. It is easy once you get started. Don't get mad, get smart. And remember, success is the best revenge! Sherrie

Tony5657 2012-08-20 05:54:28 -0500 Report

Great advice Sherrie. Yes, an apple & those individually packaged cheese sticks really work for me and the combination tastes great.
AND GennieDevera, another huge help for me is the self help book, "The Tools." The authors help/guide you in transforming your problems into courage, confidence & creativity. I have made a couple of postings with details about that book. Maybe you could find them by doing a search? I'm still learning this site.
Tony5657 in TX

daddy312 2012-08-19 11:51:34 -0500 Report

I think the best thing for you to do right now is slow down and give your body a chance to adjust…It seems like your very active and your body is not getting the chance to absorb the carbs you take in…Don't get me wrong, being active is a good thing for diabetics…just try it for a day or 2 and see what happens.

genniedevera 2012-08-18 17:36:12 -0500 Report

Uh-oh … I've pricked my fingers so much the past two weeks, bec i was told to monitor due to dizziness…I'm almost out of strips! Called pharmacy and they said I'm not due til Sept 9… If I pay out of pocket it's 130! Yikes…

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-08-21 14:23:16 -0500 Report

I know most people do the finger prick, supposedly because the blood at the finger tips is the most accurate. I work with my hands and they are exposed to chemicals, dirt, what have you. For the past 5 years I have been testing on the top part of my elbow. and occassionaly check it at my fingertips. Results are very similiar and there is less chance of infection. I tell my doctor that I test 5 times a day, so he writes a script for 200 a month. Sometimes I test more, sometimes only 2 times, but i don't run out.

SCLWKR 2012-08-19 23:57:02 -0500 Report

Call you doctor and have her refill your prescription NOW. I had to do this in the beginning cuz I too tested so much. Now my doc does a 400 strip order for me.

genniedevera 2012-08-21 07:52:36 -0500 Report

I will talk to my dr today to increase it for me. My pharmacist called me yesterday and did advise me that my insurance only covers 90 day supply… in the meantime, I did order some from biousa, (thanks Nick)…out of my own pocket, cheaper than $130…

genniedevera 2012-08-18 16:44:43 -0500 Report

2 hours ago after a big lunch my bs was 160…now it's 95 and I know it'll keep dropping… this doesn't seem normal. Should it be dropping this much every 2 hours??

Jccandals 2012-08-20 01:50:21 -0500 Report

initially it does drop quickly ( especially if you are taking insulin), my medications work sort of fast also, but then it shouldnt be working as fast anymore is my experience, check it 2 hours after your big lunch write down the amount, if its not between 70-150 then check it again, otherwise I wouldnt worry. If its higher than 150 or lower then heres two tricks: higher than 150 but not over 200, drink some water ( I have seen this work), and then lower than 70, eat a snack according to how much lower, a small piece of fruit if just a tad under 70, or crackers and peanut butter and juice if its quite a bit lower< you dont have to do any of this, my suggestion is always talk to your doctor, I am not a doctor, but I have worked in health fields for years and worked directly with those with diabetes, as well as a husband type one and myself type 2. These are just suggestions or advice to help you :) let me know if it helps

Nick1962 2012-08-18 19:38:34 -0500 Report

Yes, 160-95 is a good thing. If you keep dropping though, start snacking once you hit 70 or below.

genniedevera 2012-08-19 00:28:44 -0500 Report

That's the problem with me, it keeps dropping… what if thus happens at night, while I'm sleeping? Should I overeat for dinner?

Nick1962 2012-08-19 15:51:58 -0500 Report

No, Jccandals below is right, you need to AVOID big meals and space out your intake on a more routine basis. Big meals = big spikes (and usually big lows afterward). It was explained to me (by a non-diabetic fitness instructor) its much like keeping your body hydrated (except with food). You don't get up in the morning and down 1/2 a gallon of water and go until lunch with nothing to drink do you? That's murder on the bladder to begin with and the pancreas pretty much has to do the same thing processing food as your bladder does liquids.
We've all been trained to eat certain amounts at certain times, but for T2's like us (and this is probably the biggest concession we have to make to this condition) we need to regulate our BG's by what we put in our mouth. Igf you sit at a desk all day, you don't need the same level of carbs/calories as someone who works construction, so don't feed yourself the same. Maybe just half an apple and one slice of WW toast with peanut butter is enough (for me that's more than enough). Did you order a huge salad for lunch? Take half home for dinner. If you have a big dinner, save some of it for a before bed snack. Small amounts more frequently stop the pancreas from having to process huge amounts and it can handle the highs and lows more effieciently. But you do have to get into a routine, boring as it may be, of eating similar "low reacting" foods, and eating them daily. After a while these spikes will stop for the most part.
Here's a thread on a test I did not too long ago. The graphic associated with it I've since taken down because the thread has been long since buried, but I think you'll see by my numbers the spikes you're seeing are not too far out of "normal" for a T2.

Jccandals 2012-08-19 02:49:52 -0500 Report

I would suggest snacks between meals. Maybe your diet is way off? and is your exercise routine sporadic? or different daily? Mine go low after alot of exercise and I find that my levels get higher if I am stressed out.

genniedevera 2012-08-19 10:55:52 -0500 Report

Hi Jc…my exercise is routine… my provider has not referred me to nutritionist. I asked again last week I'll follow up when I see her next Tuesday…I believe my diet is way off, its hit or miss for me right now since I don't have a nutritionist… you would think that the nutritionist would be the doctors first recommendation for me… sigh…

Jccandals 2012-08-20 01:38:37 -0500 Report

actually I think you are right on about that.. I would think that a nutritionist would be the first thing a doctor would want to suggest because its of great importance in a type 1 or type 2's lifestyle. I do know that some hospitals have nutritionists who are hired on especially on for "food awareness" in regards to diabetes, gerd, and illnesses that require new eating habits. Ask your doctor if he has recommendations to one of these ppl and if they have a free class that you can go to. I got to go to two with the VA here in Wyoming( free of charge) but my husband works for them and is a veteran, and I got an additional one free of charge through the hospital here locally for my own diabetes.They are very helpful. I wanted to add that some foods are slow acting and some are fast acting, it is important for diabetics to know which ones are which because your insulin or medication levels may not rise instantly with certain foods but they will sustain better and then others may rise quickly but not sustain throughout the day ( even sometimes plummetting the blood sugars depending on the person). I worked in a nursing home when I was younger ( certified nursing assistant at the time) and I watched a nurse give a lady a tube of glucodon, the lady had not eaten. she gave her the whole tube the ladies blood sugar rose, but it didnt sustain because the nurse did not give her anything to eat. I advised something to eat that would sustain. The nurse instead gave her another tube of glucodon. The ladies blood sugar in an hour went sky high. So then guess what she got next??? yep, a good old fashioned shot. So here the gal has not eaten but she keeps getting all this junk. The nurse gave her a shot, and then guess what? she plummetted again, finally I got irritated and said let me do something. I gave her some milk and I think a banana. Her blood sugars went up, she felt better. It stopped that cycle.. I was thinking..????? Anyhow, how the cycle messed up in the beginning is the nurse did not try giving her a food substance first, its always my suggestion. And then she was not patient enough to wait on the medication to do the trick. A diabetic needs to account for exercise, what you are eating ( slow acting or fast acting) and when the next time you will be eating. If its going to be late that evening, either make your meals sooner or have a snack in between ( doesnt have to be junk food). Thats my advice, I dont always listen to me thats why I joined. I love getting the extra help :) I hope you find a nutrionist and let me know how it went :)

Nana_anna 2012-08-18 09:38:46 -0500 Report

Mine was 318 this morning. Been staying in that area for the last week. I think one of my medications could be causing it to stay up. I would check your medications even over the counter meds, to make sure that that isn't the cause for our BS to spike. Hugs to you.

MAYS 2012-08-18 12:52:27 -0500 Report

It could be your medication, I developed that with one of my medications a month or two ago and my doctor had to lower the dosage until I came off of another medication a few weeks later.
Blood glucose numbers in the 300+ range should be cause for concern:

daddy312 2012-08-18 12:35:36 -0500 Report

Wwwoooowwwww! 318? If mine was that high I would feel like I played ring-around-the-rosey for 24hrs at a fast pace,LOL! PLEASE be careful Nana… I know you can handle the levels being high and all, it just makes me very uncomfortable hearing a persons BS Levels are 300+…Many HUGS to you!

daddy312 2012-08-17 23:40:53 -0500 Report

Hey Genni! As you've already heard from several family members just relax and don't stress…when I was first diagnosed I would go crazy when my levels became unstable, not knowing how to control them and myself was a big challenge, so I lost weight, ate when I needed to, kept a piece of peppermint in my pocket for security, and stayed in touch with people that knew more about this disease than I did, and it all came together for me…Check your levels when you get up in the morning and when you start feeling strange(light headed or tired)then you'll be able to understand and know your comfort zone…Keep your head up we're here for you…BIG HUGS! You'll be fine!

Nick1962 2012-08-18 09:35:31 -0500 Report

You're right on there daddy! At one point I had to remind myself "hey, before I started testing I never knew my numbers and it didn't bother me" now it's a tool to let me know what i have to do.

genniedevera 2012-08-18 08:07:29 -0500 Report

Thank you, I'm learning from everyone here…

daddy312 2012-08-18 12:36:23 -0500 Report

What was your BS this morning?

genniedevera 2012-08-18 12:39:57 -0500 Report

115 fasting…then I had breakfast 2 hours later it went down to 93 … I just ate a burrito right now, yikes I'm scared to check later… thx for asking… how are you?

daddy312 2012-08-18 13:02:42 -0500 Report

I'm doing well Thanks for asking! 115 isn't bad just try to get in the habit of writing everything down until your body gets used to it…then it will let you know when your high and low…Burrito(yummy) one of my downfalls,can't eat just 1 LOL! Enjoy your day and don't forget to check your BS whenever you feel different..HUGGGS TO YOU!

genniedevera 2012-08-18 13:10:07 -0500 Report

Thanks daddy312! Maaan my fingers are soooo messed up from checking lol…this might sound gross, but one time I pricked my finger 3 other prick sites bled when I squeezed my finger! Lol… not funny at the time though…hahaha

daddy312 2012-08-18 13:49:05 -0500 Report

You can connect the dots on my fingers…Hope it leads to treasure…LOL! Keep using different ones and give them time to heal…1 week use the left hand and next week the right..I've been doing it for 4yrs and they still hurt sometimes…I read something recently that you will be able to check your BS levels using tears..when I find it again I'll post it.

genniedevera 2012-08-17 16:46:04 -0500 Report

You are all too kind!!! And I truly, truly appreciate everyone for taking the time to listen to me vent and help me through this…

MAYS 2012-08-17 16:09:41 -0500 Report

Once you manage your blood glucose according to your individual needs, you will be fine!
One day soon, you will look back on this and smile thoughtfully!…It does get better!

Nick1962 2012-08-17 15:07:03 -0500 Report

Genie, I’ve watched your posts since you came on board and you’ve really been through a lot both mentally and physically in the 2 months since you’ve been diagnosed. You said that you started exercising (getting up at 4:30? tell me please you’re an early riser), and changing your diet. Add to this you’ve been put on Met (which I hope is temporary), trying to get used to regular testing, learning all you can about this condition, worrying how it effects relationships/social situations, fretting over possible complications, and more in tune to every little thing your body does.
Even though you may say you’ve accepted it, you’re still on honeymoon with it and probably inwardly still really stressing over it. That’s a lot to get a grip on in two months’ time. I’m sure Caroltoo would have a more clinical definition, but you have to be going about 100 miles per hour inside. Netto is right, that can really push a body hard.
Are you really eating enough to compensate for all this? This will sound strange, but you’re not that diabetic. Yes, it’s still a big deal, but you can (and will) get off the meds and join the ranks of those of us who are controlled and staying there.
You still have a few weeks before you see your regular doctor, and he/she may send you to a nutritionist if need be. You’re hyper aware of so much at the moment, it will make your head spin. Let’s try one day at a time. Plan out meals but look at them as “healthy” meals, not “diabetic” meals. Test, but don’t look at it as if each number out of range means something’s wrong. Give yourself some mental space – it’s not a death sentence and parts aren’t going to drop off the minute you eat half a snickers bar.
And really, are you eating enough?

genniedevera 2012-08-17 15:40:03 -0500 Report

Than you Nick…I know I'm realizing it now. I'm on an emotional roller coaster. I'm trying to be positive about this whole thing. But its just really bad for me today… and yea I'm really an early riser, can't sleep much… am I stressing over it, yes, I'm very afraid…my whole family had diabetes, insulin dependent…and they're not around anymore to help or guide me through this..
… am I eating enough? I eat every 2 hours…

Nick1962 2012-08-17 15:54:11 -0500 Report

Well take a deep breath, it'll be OK. I get the feeling you're a bit of a perfectioist too huh? Eating every two hours is good, but make sure it's enough (a handfull of almonds ain't gonna cut it all the time) and make sure it's something that stays with you.
We got your back OK?

SCLWKR 2012-08-20 00:25:53 -0500 Report

Don't grab almonds if you tend to have lows. That is my go to food when I need to get a quick drop from a high. Pretzels would be a better snack. Best snacks are carb/protien combos. Cheese and crackers or a small banana or apple with a smear of peanut better, fruit and creme cheese, or yogurt with granola mixed in.

Nick1962 2012-08-20 08:53:47 -0500 Report

And this is where we start to cross the line between just getting control and really fine tuning it individually. I try to avoid carbs because I still want to lose weight, so things like pretzels and crackers are usually out for me. However, if I’m low and intend to get some exercise, they are great short term boosts if I know I’ll be following up with some protein within a few hours. But like you say, combinations are good. I tend to stick with things like egg or chicken salad with the crackers since my ability to process dairy has dropped. Overnight snacks for me are usually high protein/low carb.

jayabee52 2012-08-17 16:05:38 -0500 Report

keep posting your questions on DC and many of us have been where you are now and can relate.

You have a bigger "family" now who have a more diverse range of experiences to suggest things to try and comfort and encourage you when you're down. As Nick said somewhere previously: "we've got your back!"

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