diabetes can eat sugar?

By wangbin Latest Reply 2012-08-12 23:38:44 -0500
Started 2012-08-08 02:24:55 -0500

diabetes can eat sugar?

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CJ55 2012-08-11 01:39:51 -0500 Report

Also in response to Mays reply. The majority of people I know who have Diabetes are not fat or ever have been fat. However, I only know about 40 or so people who are diabetics. As for my family, on my fathers side, there are 11 of us with diabetes. 6 are overweight, 5 are not. No diabetes on my mothers side. I believe (only from who I know) that diabetes cannot be caused by just being overweight. There has to be some other contributing factor somewhere. Why else would thin people get diabetes. It doesnt make sense to me. I do agree that being over weight does have a role in getting diabetes, but I don't think it' s the sole reason. I truly do not understand. I keep hearing different information. CJ. \U+128144

tabby9146 2012-08-12 22:32:54 -0500 Report

you are right. Personally most type2s I know are overweight. I am not. I was only 30 lbs, overweight, for several years could not lose ,but did not gain more either, which is a miracle, the way I ate and after having my second child in 2001, but it would not budge one way or another, good thing I did not keep gaining. I went on to lose 35 total, I ws shocked. The only place I had excess weight was my tummy , which of course, is the worst place, and when people find out I am diabetic, they are shocked. I tell them, that there are people out there who are not overweight who have type 2. I worry all the time though, just how long I can stay this way, despite my best efforts, if I am destined to become overweight again, no matter what and start having problems again.My birth father has it and both of his parents, now deceased, had it, but I did not learn this until years after my last conversation with him, and I was told my his daughter about 7 months before I was diagnosed, well within days of learning this, I went out and bought a treadmill ,and started exercising again, but it was too late. they thought I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant in 2001, but it turns out I didn't. I gained a lot with her. I think I read somewhere, that you can have the gene, but not necessarily ever have diabetes, but weight gain, even a little, can turn it on.

Nana_anna 2012-08-11 11:56:18 -0500 Report

Diabetes runs in my family. Most of us have it. We are over weight. I have been over weight since 1992. I have lived as an over weight person for years, before I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2006. Mine is posibley short term, due to life stresses. Which hasn't been proven, but has been suggested to. It can be different between each person. What is good for one person to do, or to try, may not be good for me or you. I have learned that. I can't say if weight is the main factor of diabetes though. But it doesn't help it either. I hope that when I loose more weight, my sugar will stay down more easier then it does now. If it is stress, it just may stay the same, even when I have lossed all of my weight.

jayabee52 2012-08-11 01:56:50 -0500 Report

of those 11 in your family who have Diabetes Mellitus (DM) how many are type 1 and how many are type 2? I would suspect that the 6 overweight are T 2s and the 5 not overweight are T1s (just an observational guess)

Contributing factors for both types MAY be genetic, but the mechanisms of the gene expression may be different for each Person with Diabetes (PWD) regardless of the type.

CJ55 2012-08-11 02:18:07 -0500 Report

Actually we are all T2s. We learned that my father had diabetes from his autopsy. He never knew at all. He was a normal guy in good health. He died unexpectedly in the OR. At that time I had a GTT done and was diagnosed with hypoglycemia. My aunt (fathers sister) was diagnosed right away with diabetes and others were diagnosed within a few years after that time. Same for myself.

tabby9146 2012-08-12 22:36:53 -0500 Report

what were your symptoms CJ? the only ones I ever had was dizziness at times, and light headed others, that was it. That is what sent me rushing to the doctor, I had a really scary episode at work that I will never forget, when I learned I had it, and I went to class, I realized it had been low spells I was having. If I had any real high numbers, then I had no symptoms of those and to this day, I have never had a really high reading and it will be 4 years in Nov. The highest I ever saw on my meter was 155. I have even eaten things I shouldn't before, rarely, but I have just to check and see how high it goes. I used to check three times a day the first few months, I was so nervous about it, then twice a day for a year, or so, and now once a day for longer than that now.

CJ55 2012-08-11 03:06:46 -0500 Report

Jayabee52.. No need for the sorry but thank you. I am not saying you do, so, please don't take this personally. I think people assume to easily. I know I do. For instance.. I am in a wheelchair more often than I care to be. I do not have 4 discs in my lower back. They ruptured then exploded leaving me paralized until I had surgery. Yes, I am overweight, but people assume I am in a wheelchair because I am overweight. CJ. \U+127803

CJ55 2012-08-12 23:00:07 -0500 Report

Thanks tabby.. Unfortunately, unlike D, my back problems will forever get worse not better. You asked me about symptoms? What were you referring to? My back or BS?

jayabee52 2012-08-11 03:54:17 -0500 Report

I am sorry to hear of your back problems, CJ. Are you on Back Pain Connect? I have intermittent back pain due to osteoarthritis of the spine (injured myself sitting down too hard after slipping on wet paint on a concrete sidewalk — no warning signs — saw stars with that one) If you are there or if you join there, look me up on the mingle machine there.

CJ55 2012-08-11 04:34:48 -0500 Report

Thank you I will. I haven't been to that site. I did join the asthma site but nothing evers goes on there. I also have stenosis and degenerative bone desease in my spine. Not fun at all and my endo cannot understand why I have pain when I try to exercise. Duh!! \U+127803

jayabee52 2012-08-11 12:00:47 -0500 Report

Sometime specialists don't have the good sense that God gave geese. They don't seem to see anything beyond their specialty.

white dove 59
white dove 59 2012-08-12 02:48:30 -0500 Report

I can relaate to both of u. I have lost over 100pounds. still have about 30 to go. U can tell since I have three of me on here, so sorry. Anyway, I have stenosis and degenerative bone desease, besides many other medical hangups. I have a good set of Doctors now that have done the right test that showed what I have tried to tell them for years. I ride a scooter now.

CJ55 2012-08-12 23:38:44 -0500 Report

Hello white dove.. We both have stenosis and degenerative bone disease. It is very painful. What did the drs do for yours?? Mine only give me pain meds which I usually will not take. The pain management gave me morphine, yes that helped but I felt like a zombie. Threw those away fast!!

ChrissyRI 2012-08-10 07:51:51 -0500 Report

In response to Mays reply, I can honestly tell you that I gained weight by not eating enough, slowing down my metabolism, and ingesting too much sugar in the first place. Im not sure that the sugar caused my type 2 but it certainly contributed. Fact is, I don't think they really know what causes it because mine is a unique case. No family history, wasn't grotesquely obese, and wasn't eating enough.

Patty0057 2012-08-10 07:11:06 -0500 Report

Just be sure to read labels- ALWAYS. I don't eat anything with more than 12-13 grams of sugar. You will find what amount works for you. Testing often will help with the best food choices also.

IronOre 2012-08-10 16:35:46 -0500 Report

So you follow "grams of sugar"?
Since one gram of sugar equals one carb; Why not just just look at the carb content on the label?

IronOre 2012-08-10 03:18:46 -0500 Report

The carbs in sugar are the same carbs found in any other food.
The amount of carbs that you eat is the thing you need to keep track of.
So to use the word "moderation" when telling a diabetic how much sugar they can eat is worthless.
Don't worry, you can eat sugar. The best thing to do is talk it over with a dietition associated with your doctor at how to go about it.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-08-10 15:39:57 -0500 Report

When I said moderation, I was taking the short cut way of explaining that you can for example; eat one donut, but not two or three or even the whole box! You should not do this daily either. When eating anything, moderation is the key, not large plates over loaded or super size foods and eating like this all day, every day:)

Each diabetic has to know how their nuumbers react to food by doing bg checks. You keep track and work with your dr/dietition like you mention:)

Also, it has to be clear when saying "you can eat sugar" or it's like my "moderation" worthless and potentially harmful. It doesn't mean it's a go ahead to skip a good meal plan and just eat cake, candy, ice cream, soda, etc..

IronOre 2012-08-10 16:23:07 -0500 Report

You are right, but "moderation" to one person can have a differnt meaning to another person.
I guess I didn't say that but that was my main point that I didn't make.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-08-10 16:36:07 -0500 Report

I agree with you 100%. It is sad how we humans justify things in order to get what we want. My son would skip breakfast and then eat at noon telling me it is his breakfast, then at 2 eat again for lunch! It took me ahwile to get it in his head that you missed a meal and move on, not make it up! I told him he needed to make the time on busy days and not sleep so late on his light days to eat and he wouldn't be starving by noon. He finally understood thankfully.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-08-09 20:05:28 -0500 Report

Yes!!! You just have to do so in moderation like you would with any food. Also, how it affects your bg will tell how often you can have it. You'll learn this as you eat and do the bg checks.

MAYS 2012-08-08 21:15:33 -0500 Report

The Hype About Sugar

The myth that sugar causes diabetes is commonly accepted by many people. Research has shown that it isn't true. Eating sugar has nothing to do with developing type 1 diabetes.

The biggest dietary risk factor for developing type 2 diabetes is simply eating too much and being overweight — your body doesn’t care if the extra food comes from cookies or beef, it is gaining weight that is the culprit.

In the past, people with diabetes were told to completely avoid sugar. Experts thought that eating sugar would raise blood glucose levels very high.

Research around this issue has shown that while the type of carbohydrate can affect how quickly blood glucose levels rise, the total amount of carbohydrate you eat affects blood glucose levels more than the type. Now experts agree that you can substitute small amounts of sugar for other carbohydrate containing foods into your meal plan and still keep your blood glucose levels on track.

That doesn't mean you can eat all the sugar you may want. Most sweets contain a large amount of carbohydrate in a very small serving. So you need to be sure to have a small serving.

Saving sweets for a special occasion is the most healthful way to eat so you focus your meal plan on the most nutrient dense foods such as vegetables, beans, whole grains, fruit, non-fat dairy, fish and lean meats.

If you tend to overeat on sweets, don't buy them. Instead, plan to have dessert when you are away from home. Split the dessert with a friend to keep yourself on track.



IronOre 2012-08-10 03:22:04 -0500 Report

What do you mean by " the type of carbohydrate can affect how quickly blood glucose levels rise," ?
Carbs come from differnt sources, but the bottom is that a carb is a carb, no matter where it comes from.
Things like proteins and fats can affect how long it takes for the carb to be absorbed.

jayabee52 2012-08-10 03:55:54 -0500 Report

I believe the article Mays quoted said essentially what you said about carbs, when it said: "Research around this issue has shown that while the type of carbohydrate can affect how quickly blood glucose levels rise, the total amount of carbohydrate you eat affects blood glucose levels more than the type. Now experts agree that you can substitute small amounts of sugar for other carbohydrate containing foods into your meal plan and still keep your blood glucose levels on track."

You are correct that protein and fats have an effect on the absorption time of carbohydrates.

MAYS 2012-08-10 04:59:44 -0500 Report


Sometimes people react, and respond to a few words or catch phrases in a discussion or a comment and respond without reading the entire article thereby losing the entire meaning of what was presented in the first place.

I'm not an expert on diabetes, and have never claimed to be, I don't tell anyone what works for me because diabetes is an individuals disease and the care of such should be catered to the individual as an individual, but some things are in fact "generalized" so I like to present the facts (with links) so that one can see the source where the information that I have posted has come from.

I have come to realize in life that there are some people who are attackers, they attach themselves to others and scrutinize everything associated with that individual without realizint that they have an obsessiom with that individual.
We are all blessed with one such person in our lives at some point, sometimes two, and the other lesson that I have learned in all of my years of life is this, how to smile, ignore them and move on!

IronOre 2012-08-10 11:21:58 -0500 Report

I may be an attacker, but mostly what I am is analytical, its part of what I actually do for a living. If you are going to post something that may be garbage, and I read it, I will usually point it out.
Rarely do I read the links posted here, and I think it's rude to say "just read the link". I simply don't have the time for that. To be quite frank I feel a main purpose of chat rooms like this is for diabetics to share their life experiences and their concerns, not to be preached to and post in a links found on Google, as anybody on here can search for the those themselves.
So I ask again what do you mean by " . . . the type of carbohydrate can affect how quickly blood glucose levels rise, . . . "? I cut and pasted it from what you posted ~ if I cut it wrong then let me know.
Maybe share with us how your dietition spoke with you about carbs if thats what you want to talk that, as it is probably more valuable than the jibberish you tend to post.
OK now, smile, ignore me, and move on Mays.

MAYS 2012-08-10 11:44:53 -0500 Report

I don't ignore you, I actually enjoy our discussions!
Seriously, I apporeciate your methods, they keep me on my toes so don't take it personal, I think that we are beyond attacking one another on a support site, neither of us has rescinded our friend request to one another have we?
We both have a lot to offer in our own individual ways, so let's continue doing so!


IronOre 2012-08-10 12:33:52 -0500 Report

The last sentence in my response was a reaction to the last sentence in your reponse that I was reponding to. So in response to your reponse I say we keep on responding to the responses that keep others responding to our responses.

MAYS 2012-08-10 17:06:52 -0500 Report

In short when necessary we will agree to disagree on the things that we need to disagree upon, and agree upon those things that we need to agree upon if they are correct!
You see, I am not ignoring you!

genniedevera 2012-08-08 20:37:09 -0500 Report

What's a good moderation?

till50 2012-08-10 15:55:44 -0500 Report

eat a little bit then test, if number are ok you know it is safe ok. all that chat is not good for people that are confused.

Nick1962 2012-08-09 15:49:55 -0500 Report

Not to oversimplify what Mays has said below, but eventually, your meter will tell you what moderation is for you specifically.

MAYS 2012-08-08 21:11:34 -0500 Report

Question: Hi. I'm James from Austin, Texas. I was recently diagnosed with diabetes. Does that mean I can never eat sugar again?

Answer: Hi James. Just because you were recently diagnosed with diabetes does not mean that you can never eat sugar again. Anyone with diabetes can fit foods with sugar into their eating habits without a problem. What we really focus on is the total amount of carbohydrates that you eat in a day and you want to keep that pretty regular. So sugar is part of the total carbohydrates and you want work with someone like a dietician to help you manage that.


MAYS 2012-08-08 21:04:47 -0500 Report

Daily Sugar Intake Recommendations:

It is important to limit added sugar consumption to approximately 17 grams or less for every 1,000 calories consumed daily, as recommended by the American Heart Association. Individuals can limit sugar intake by limiting consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages such as cola and fruit juice, consuming fresh fruits and fruits canned in light syrups or natural juice, or cutting sugar in recipes and replacing such sugar with unsweetened applesauce. In addition, individuals can enhance foods or beverages with ginger, nutmeg, flavored extracts, or cinnamon instead of sugar, or consider adding a non-nutritive sweetener. Limiting daily consumption of added sugars can greatly improve the health of one's diet, in turn increasing overall health.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/364598-how-...

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