Numbers are higher than ever! Discouraged.

girl steele
By girl steele Latest Reply 2012-08-02 21:46:26 -0500
Started 2012-07-29 10:54:13 -0500

Hello DC…I haven't been on in awhile, super busy. I have to admit these past couple weeks I haven't been checking my sugar. I have a three year old & many other things going on & lately when I check my numbers they aren't what I want or expect to see…ie., 188, 175…etc… which requires me to workout, walk on the treadmill or just get anxious because its so high so Ive been avoiding it lately (burn out?), but I DO still eat low carb & work out pretty religiously so it's so discouraging to see my numbers go up when there's not much more I can do. Well, yesterday I told my husband that I am getting back with the 'program' so to speak & start testing again. Well I did about 10 am & I hadn't eaten yet. I had coffe with Splenda(which I've never used before) & my suagr was 310! It's NEVER been this high. I was up a couple hours & hadn't eaten before I checked it. So I ate some protein, guzzled some water, got on the treadmill & jogged about 20 minutes…before I checked my sugar I had already walked my usual 3 miles, which always takes my numbers down. Checked my numbers & I was finally down to 194 which would seem high typically but I was done. Later I had some green beans with cheese sprinkled on, checked my sugar before bed, it was 310!! I was so depressed & angry. I got on the treadmill for 2 miles @ 11:30 last night although I was extremely tired. Checked my numbers 278…so I had a couple glasses of wine…250…then I went to bed. I dont typically drink wine to get my numbers down, just desperate. Too scared to check it this morning. Anyone see any red flags or have any idea what could be going on?? How high is 'too high' before I go get a shot of insulin or something. I'm on 1500 mg Metformin with an A1ac in March of 6.7. Never had this problem except when I was on steroids…which was two months ago. Sorry this post is so long, I'm just really baffled what is going on. I can only workout so much. : / Need some encouragement. Feeling very stressed.


32 replies

femaletrucker
femaletrucker 2012-08-02 20:56:28 -0500 Report

If your PMS'ing and your close to your monthly cycle, it can go haywire. I noticed that on me. Have you had your pancreas checked? You might want to opt for a blood test to see if your pancreas is out of wack. How much water do you drink? Drink lots, it helps lower the blood sugar I noticed on me. I use Truvia which never spikes my sugar. Your like me, I walk and run 5 to 6 miles every other day…I even got a "Camel Pak" to bring along water for me and the dog…lol. But right before my period, my blood sugar is all over, from high to low…about a week and a half before Im on. No matter how much I walk or run. And I refuse to use Metformin unless Im forced to one day. I do have acute pancreatitis, but its functioning better since the exercise. DONT GIVE UP AND STAY ON TRACK. YOUR DOING GREAT!!!! Remember, it can only help what your doing, definately not hurt. Also, try eating cinnamon every day. It makes a big difference in dropping blood sugar, as does Omega 3 fatty acids. Your doctor can prescribe a stronger strength of fish oil in gel caps (about $65). 900 mg of fish oil per capsule and no fishy after taste, plus added oils.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-08-02 21:46:26 -0500 Report

You know, I have considered this as the timing is right, I've never had this problem though but have noticed it runs a little higher beforehand but not like this so it could be contributing. I do take Fish Oil 600 mg /day, along with ALA, chromium, magnesium, One A Day multi, Leutin…boy I pop a lot of pills. lol I've tried cinnamon with no noticed difference & Truvia tears up my stomach, wish it didnt. I really dont think it was the Slenda at this point because it seems it would be out of my system by now, but my sugars are still high. I may get my pancreas checked, but what would it tell me if my pancreas is out of wack? I figure it is since I am diabetic. Just curious about that. Thanks for the encouragement, I really need it right now.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-08-02 18:57:05 -0500 Report

Thanks everyone. Update: My doc ran a cbc & a thorough work thru, so we'll see. She put me (temporarily) on NovoLong. Gave me 6 units at the office at 11 am (never had insulin before) & now, at 2:10my bg is 211, which is the lowest its been in a week! At least its going in the right direction. :) She gave me a breathing treatment & seems to think I may have bronchittis…so she put me on amoxicillan. Lets hope this works!

MoeGig
MoeGig 2012-08-02 18:26:45 -0500 Report

Hi! You're doing better than you think. A1c in the 6's is fine, as is a blood glucose in the mid 100's. Have been Type 1 for many years, the only suggestion I can make is to go on Lantus (long acting) insulin. Very tough to control BG on meds only for Type 2. My 97 yr old dad got Type 2 and after a raft of trying different meds, it was much easier just to take one shot of insulin in the am…Lantus is like a "base line" that helps you all day long. Only way, I think, to avoid the 300's. inho :>)

girl steele
girl steele 2012-08-02 20:24:48 -0500 Report

Thanks MoeGig. Yes, I've always been able to control my bg with Metformin, diet & exercise but for some reason my sugar is wavering around 300 & not budging much. We're thinking its probably an infection. My doc put me on NovoLog until we figure this out. It went down to 199 from 286, but it took all afternoon… then I took 4 units at BG of 198 @ 6:30 pm, now its right back up to 259. I had brocolli & a boca burger patty, no bread. So confused. The insulin isnt really working.

MoeGig
MoeGig 2012-08-02 21:44:07 -0500 Report

Novolog is an instant type of insulin (I take it), but what I think you need is Lantus (a longer acting 24 hour base line, which I also take). Novolog by itself will jump you up and down. imho…I take novolog when I eat carbs and want to cover them right away. Don't worry, the insulin will work, and it doesn't sound like an infection…you would feel sick otherwise unless you really had a dread disease of some kind…which is unlikely. Believe me, a proper insulin regimen is probably the solution…make sure your doc is diabetes trained (an endocrinologist) and not just a GP.

IronOre
IronOre 2012-08-02 00:58:58 -0500 Report

It sounds like you are doing many things right here.
So what type of doctor are you seeing for your type 2? An Endocrinologist?

girl steele
girl steele 2012-08-02 11:41:17 -0500 Report

I have actually been seeing my family doctor since dx in November 2010 because I've never had any complications such as this. I went to see her today. I do have an appt with an endo on the 15th. It may be time to start seeing one, although my doctor is very thorough, she isn't a specialist.

IronOre
IronOre 2012-08-02 12:22:43 -0500 Report

That's good news.
You may need to be a bit patient, but you will get there.
I think it was you who mentioned in a differnt discussion about hair loss, be sure to bring this up to the Endo, as it may be thyroid (part of the endo system) related, which is common in diabetics.

Lizardfan
Lizardfan 2012-07-31 10:03:58 -0500 Report

Just quickly looking at your post one thing comes to mind. You are going way too long between eating. That would send my BS soaring. I have to have regular meals at regular intervals or nothing is going to work for me. Try starting out by eating small meals and don't wait so long to start your breakfast. Not eating is as bad for me as carb loading! The longer without food the higher my numbers will soar. Hope you can figure this out!

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:41:01 -0500 Report

Thanks Lizardfan for the advice & encouragement. I agree at times I don't eat enough & wait too long to eat in the morning & I agree that it can cause spikes. I have found out through checking that usually my sugar doesn't 'soar up' in the morning until about 9:30, so I know I need to eat & exercise by then to counter it…it does help. I appreciate your response & advice. Eat more often & don't wait so long to eat in the morning. Thank you, will do. :)

old biker
old biker 2012-07-31 09:50:55 -0500 Report

There are a lot of different factors that might be contributing to a rise in your BGL as other people have pointed out..The important thing is stay on the routine that has been working for you and check your BGL every day!!!
There is a good chance your numbers didn't get high over night and it might take a couple of days for them to come down and stabilize..Give it a few days and if they are still high I would talk you your Doctor

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:38:03 -0500 Report

Thanks old biker. I agree I need to make sure I check everyday. Lately I've been kind of burnt out on checking it & when I do it would require me to walk or react in some way to the high reading, but not checking it is only going to do me badly so I need to get back on track. Like you said, get back on track & if it doesn't come down in a few days of being 'good' I will call the doc to see what we can do. Thanks again!

diabetesfree
diabetesfree 2012-07-31 07:25:23 -0500 Report

You might want to rule out having any other illness that may cause your blood glucose to increase. Colds, flues, allergies and just plain stress can have a major impact. If you are suffering from any other types of symptoms, it might be a good time for a regular visit with your physician.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:35:51 -0500 Report

Thanks diabetesfree for the advice. You know, I have given that some thought. I do have allergies but no cold. I know infection, flu, etc… can wreak havoc on you BG numbers so if they do keep up I will call the doc. I think I just need to relax a little more.
Thank you for your response & advice. :)

Set apart
Set apart 2012-07-31 06:20:47 -0500 Report

I like the idea of writing everything you eat in a journal and checking religiously. I have to eat regularly and try to eat protein with almost all my snacks and especially my meals. Green beans with cheese would not be enough for me, I need proteins chicken or fish usually works. I carry walnuts and apple slices, celery sticks, baby carrots, etc. Maybe check your meds with Dr. I have to change my insulin dosage every now and then depending on the time of month and stressful events. I am still new to this, but this is what helps me.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:34:06 -0500 Report

Thank you Set apart for you response. I also like the idea of writing everything down. I use to in the beginning & then felt in control enough to go with the flow. I think it's time to start again though. The resounding advice I keep getting is routine, journaling, less stress. I'm trying to & I think it's going to help get me back on track. If not, I will check with my doc about readjusting my meds. Thanks again!

locarbarbie
locarbarbie 2012-07-30 13:29:50 -0500 Report

Since your bs seems out of whack, it might be a good idea to keep a journal for 30 days. This will come in handy to show your Dr. and keep you focused on any changes and what is working for you and what is not.
In my experience, I have found that NOT eating, causes higher numbers for me sometimes. Eating (especially inculding a protein) helps to stabalize my numbers. It actually seems to me that you do not have much structure to your daily meal plans. Perhaps 4-5 smallish meals would be something to try.
One other thing…I was on prednisone for 1 week and surprisingly my numbers were not as high as I was lead to believe they would be while I was on it. However, it seemed as though my blood sugar was not as low as it had previously been even months after. Is it possible that your steroid use could still be affecting your numbers?

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:31:52 -0500 Report

You know… I have recently started spacing out my meals a little more & maybe that just isn't working for me. I do need structure in my meal planning & will start journaling again. Very insightful, thank you. I was on 60 mg prednisone for five days & boy did it throw my numbers out of whack, but it only seemed to take a couple weeks to bring them back to normal. I wouoldn't say that the prednisone is affecting me now because that was back in mid-march; but you never know. Thanks again for all your wondreful advice!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-07-30 10:26:42 -0500 Report

Ok, first, our bodies change as we age, even when you are as young as you are. It gets used to a routine and then it decides it wants a change and so you can go nuts with that.

As others have suggested, find a new routine and try not to be so reactive to your situation. You know you need to test, you know you need to exercise, you know you need to eat low carb. So do those things and keep a journal of it. That will help a lot.

Once you have a routine and you see where your numbers are starting to settle, it might be time to talk to your doctor about some alternative ideas. Maybe additional oral meds? Maybe a different kind of exercise? Maybe a change in your diet?

Do things one at a time so you can see if that particular thing is helping or not. That is one of my biggest problems is that I want to change things all at one time and then I don't know for sure what it helping and what is holding me back. So practice some patience and good record keeping and you may find it is stress or some new snack you thought was safe, but is turning out to be a problem.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:46:36 -0500 Report

Thanks Gabby. I agree that journaling is the way to go…although hard to keep up on. I am trying to though as I use to & was able to maintain good control so I quit, now it's time to begin again. I will give all this a shot for a week or so & then if it doesn't seem to be helping it's time to put a call to the doc. Like you said, maybe a new med, up my meds or just adjustments will help. I have been a little stressed lately & hoping that relaxing a few days will level me out. Thank you for your wonderful & insightful advice. Much appreciated! :)

MAYS
MAYS 2012-07-30 07:32:19 -0500 Report

Welcome to the family!
Why not try this for a week, stop focusing on the numbers and focus a little more on your program, sometimes we tend to look at the numbers and try to balance them (mentally) within our program, by doing so we add unnecessary stress which is reflected in our blood glucose numbers!

It's like looking in the mirror at the "pimple before the prom" it never seems to go away because we are examining it too closely and frequently!

Focusing more on your program will allow your body to physically adapt to the changes slowly, your stress level will begin to drop, you will feel more relaxed and it will show up in your numbers.
Exercise (or any physical activity) along with a modified diet, and medications will help you to achieve some peace of mind, after all, you know what to do, you are doing it but your body is rebelling somewhat (anxiety may be adding to this).

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/videos/729-the...

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/news-articles/...

Take your time and take care of yourself.

`Mays~

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:25:41 -0500 Report

Thank you Mays… I think it partially is anxiety. As I was telling herigoagain1, it's like a vicious cycle; your numbers go up, you stress about it which causes your numbers to go up. Geesh! I am anxiety prone & always have been so it's kind of my weekness. I appreciate all your positive advice & the links. I have definitely read them & am taking all the advice into consideration & in some cases, into practice. :)

herigoagain1
herigoagain1 2012-07-29 19:14:01 -0500 Report

Another factor in BS is stress. If you have a 3 year old you might be more stressed than usual. I had the same problem a few weeks ago. I work in a hospital and the stress level was high at that time. I mentioned to a doctor that my BS was high and I couldn't figure it out. He is the one who told me that stress increases your BS. I am sure there are several factors involved with diet and exercise. I did some surfing on google to find out some of my answers. Otherwise I ask my doctor. Maybe your stress is causing the increase now. I hope they come down for you. I know how discouraged I was when I was doing everything right and they just kept going up and up. This morning it was 112, which I can live with and so can my doctor. Good luck and don't get too discouraged.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:22:38 -0500 Report

Thank you herigoagain1… I agree with stress. My numbers do rise when I am stressed & I tend to let stress take over at times so you are right. My morning numbers are my hardest ones though, except right now my numbers in general are awful. It's like a vicious cycle; your numbers go up, you stress about it, which causes your numbers to go up. What a mess sometimes! LOL Thanks for the encouragement though & the support. I certainly have taken it into consideration.

Harlen
Harlen 2012-07-29 18:34:24 -0500 Report

I will be strate with you
You know what to do and why to do it
If you dont wish to be there for your kid or kids later in life then thats up to you .
There are a lot of things we put off till later but D is a bad one to try and put off.
I wish you the best
Harlen

Juan M.
Juan M. 2012-07-29 12:56:57 -0500 Report

Hello girl steele,

You have come to the right place for info & encouragement. I know there will be some knowledgeable comments forthcoming. First off in my opinion if you been away from your routine awhile it's gonna take a while before your numbers settle. Another thing to consider is the time in which you check you BG. When you haven't eaten in a while and become hungry, the body has this mechanism in place in which the liver dumps sugar into the blood stream to "feed the body" (this is one reason why alcohol can bring down numbers sometimes). The liver can cause an elevated sugar reading.

From what you've shared, I believe you are on the right track with diet and exercise. You just may need to give a little more time before panic mode. Try getting back to the old routine that worked before, change the time of checking your numbers and relax! Stressing can cause issues as well. I think you're doing great! That my opinion and I'm sticking to it LOL. I am a fan of yours for now.

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 13:19:19 -0500 Report

Thank you Juan. I agree with all you said & I appreciate the encouragement. I need to RELAX… easier said than done though, right?

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-07-29 14:22:52 -0500 Report

I've got to agree with you Juan. A routine is one of the main ways to keep BG in check. Fall out of that routine and your body has no idea what you're trying to do to it so it goes in crisis mode producing all kinds of glucose, trying to make you ready for a fight. Exercise can also have the opposite effect. I've learned it is something that again can tax the body, so some is good, but more only causes stress (and the liver dump).

girl steele
girl steele 2012-07-31 16:15:35 -0500 Report

Thank you Nick1962. I've always exercised to successfully bring my numbers down but try to always keep the possible affects in mind,especially if I'm feeling overly stressed that particular day. Thanks for the insight & post.

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