Is it just me????

old biker
By old biker Latest Reply 2012-08-08 16:48:29 -0500
Started 2012-07-12 05:36:20 -0500

I have been a PWD T2 for 11 years now, for most of that time I have been able to control my diabetes for the most part with 1000mg of metformin and 30 mg of actos, diet and exercise was something I didn't worry about I am ashamed to say.
For most of that time I was working construction, living out of town 6 days a week grabbing something to eat where ever I could and stopping for a couple of drinks or 3 or 4 after work. The reason I got away with this was my job. I worked on large construction sites and was responsible for over looking all our temporary help and safety on the site. I was allways on the hustle for a minimum of 60 hrs a week. I used to kid and say the should pay me by mile not the hour. Back then PAD had yet begun to effect my legs
Anyway I retired 18 months ago, 9 months ago I asked my doctor to take me off of Actos due to long term usage of the drug and he up my metformin to 2000mg a day and dropped the Actos
Long story made short I was no longer hustling a gazillion miles a week and my diabetes even with a diet change started to get way out of control.I felt like sh*t and started to feel depressed my BGL was up around 400.So 4 1/2 months ago I started on Lantus insulin a long with a low carb diet and exercise and the results have been dramatic, I have a new lease on life
I know this is due to a combination of diet, exercise and proper medication. I have a goal and that is to get off Metformin not the insulin. My A1c 6 weeks ago was 6.5 my doctor agrees that that if it keeps going down we will drop the Met and cut back on the units of insulin.
I know that many out there have the goal of staying off insulin and will do what ever it takes and thats great.. But as you get older and your body metabolism slows down along with other health issues, that might change things. You shouldn't feel like you failed or the world is coming to an end or just plain old fashion freak out and not take the next logical step
For me it's the lesser of two evils. PAD prevents me from working out as hard as I would like and I feel that insulin gives me more control then oral meds could..Does anyone else feel this way or is it just me???
Don't get me wrong I am not advocating the use of insulin over oral meds!!!!!!!!!! What works for you today might not work tomorrow and starting on insulin if needed is not the end of the world

28 replies

MoeGig 2012-08-08 16:48:29 -0500 Report

Although I'm T1, my dad is T2 and it wasn't until he started on Lantus was he able to control his BG. He's now 97 and still doing relatively well. The bottom line is control, and keeping that A1c in the 6's. If you're T2 and can't do that, you've got to bite and bullet or be really miserable fighting off complications. Glad you're doing so well.

cherylisfun 2012-07-16 23:39:37 -0500 Report

It will be 2yrs that I have been in Insulin in September. It is honestly the best thing I have ever felt. I feel so good, I have more energy & I do not sleep all day. I agree with you 100%, I have heard people say Insulin is the end of the line but it really isn't…my A1C has went from around 10 to 5.8.

angelhart0464 2012-07-15 23:21:52 -0500 Report

Hi old. Biker, I understand what ur saying I'm on metformin 1500 mg a day and. I take. Januvia 100 aday and. That has helped. Me and if you cant aford the januvia you can get it throught merck for free if you make less then 43,000 a year for one person good lucky I hope this helps

Set apart
Set apart 2012-07-15 15:59:53 -0500 Report

Hi there Old Biker, well as a T1 now for almost a year at first I wasn't sure how to feel about all of this. When I saw a specialist at the Mayo Clinic he took me off the insulin for a few days to try Metformin. Not good, I needed my insulin and he was then sure that I was T1. One thing I remember from all the craziness in the beginning was that the antibodies in my body were so high that he said I would need a lot more insulin later on. He was right in the last 4 mos. I've gone from 16 units to approximately 24 now. I am learning to adjust for certain times in my life and am no longer scared. I still fear gaining weight, but am still trying to stay low carb. The fact that I am in control sometimes scares me still, since I decide along with my diabetic educator how much I need! my pancreas is no longer working and I know now that I have to help my body by injecting something in it that it should be able to do by itself. No I don't think of myself as a failure and am learning to still accept this. I need insulin to help manage my D! It's a given, forever, it took me a while to be able to say that! Thanks for this discussion, I needed it and to read what everyone else said helps me also!

old biker
old biker 2012-07-15 22:09:23 -0500 Report

The good news..there is always a bright side..I read where weight gain due to insulin use is more prevalent to T2 and not as much a factor to T1..Now if I am mistaken about this..I'm sure we will hear about it

Kirla 2012-07-13 09:54:20 -0500 Report

When first diagnosed I took metformin for about 2 months. I put up with the bathroom issues and washing my shorts in the tub every few days. Was even thinking I would have to start wearing the diapers for adults. I thought this was what it was like being a diabetic.

Then when the pain in the back of my legs got so bad I could hardly sit down I got out the papers that came with the meds. Said if you get pain in the muscles to go to the emergency room. I decided to quit all meds instead. In 2 days the pain went away.

My plan was to quit meds until most of the side effects went away. Then I was going to start them one at a time till I figured which one was causing all the problems. Good news was my blood sugar continued to get better. My blood pressure stayed normal and my cholesterol stayed way below 200.

When diagnosed my A1C was 14.1 and fasting blood sugar was 366. Two months later my numbers were at almost normal numbers. My next A1C was 5.9 and have been able to keep it at 6 or less for over 3 years now.

I’m hoping by controlling carbs and following my diet I will be able to do this for the rest of my life. But if or when I find myself not being able to control my blood sugar anymore. I already made the choice of using insulin. Figure if not eating high carb starchy foods no longer works, then going on oral meds aren’t going to work either. Rather use insulin than go back to the side effects of the meds.

MS12953 2012-07-12 14:39:29 -0500 Report

I agree with you 100%, biker. I started out on metformin and lantus, and never really felt quite right or got control until I stopped the metformin entirely and increased the lantus slightly.

dietcherry 2012-07-12 14:04:28 -0500 Report

As a T1, I will always be on insulin; however lifestyle choices can and will dictate how much insulin I need daily. Stu you are something of a trailblazer in that it is the Met you strive to eliminate and not the insulin. Whatever you personally feel suits you and your needs best is how you should live your life.

Reading over some of the DC posts, some of our members may either have a needle phobia or think of insulin as the last stop on the D management train and that its a failure if they end up on it. Nothing could be further from the truth. Insulin is vital to life, and if your body isnt making enough or cant properly utilize that which it does, then you should consider it.

As I said in a recent discussion, we are all on the same journey and it doesnt matter how we travel, the destination is the same. We all are/or should be striving for optimum health and insulin is one more tool in achieving that.

D is nothing to play with; it will take you down hard and it does that in stealth increments. Fight back!!!

old biker
old biker 2012-07-12 14:17:48 -0500 Report

Thank you Renee, I have been called a lot of things in my life, most of them I can't repeat here..Trailblazer now that's a first..ty

jigsaw 2012-07-12 12:53:46 -0500 Report

I found out that I was on my way to diabetes more than 18 years ago. The point is, I was never an undiagnosed PWD. Upon being diagnosed, I immediately began to educate myself related to diabetes. My bg although high at times along the learning curve, rarely peaked above 140, and my a1c has always been 6.0 to 6.2. I exercised emphatically with weights and cardio about 1 to 2 hours almost every day. For 16 years I kept my carb intake somewhere around 50 to 60 grams per day. I was never more than 5 to 10 pounds over weight in my life.
What I discovered is, Diabetes marches on! The 1st seven years, diet and exercise worked. Then gradually over the years, it became necessary to keep gradually increasing my meds. By year 17 I began insulin (Lantus) and I have no regrets. I did my best, and better then many to manage my diabetes. I definitely don't feel like I failed, but to the contrary I feel that I have done quite well and continue to do so. I am still healthy with no complications from diabetes and my physical capabilities are probably better than most guys my age.
So although I am convinced that diabetes is a progressive condition, it is also a manageable condition. With good mgmt many PWD will have a long enjoyable life.
No denial for me with my diabetes, and no starving myself of quality food to keep my a1c down. Just good mgmt, a good medical team and the necessary inclusion of Lantus in my case! My goal is NOT to stay off insulin, but to avoid complications and manage my bg successfully!!!

Lizardfan 2012-07-12 13:17:20 -0500 Report

Jigsaw I love your outlook! Especially the part about not starving yourself of quality food. That is how I feel about it too. I take Bydureon and Metformin and I don't deprive myself either, just how often I eat certain things and definitely how much. I could not deprive myself of good food! And if and when that day does come when I have to severely restrict my food choices then it will have been a good ride until then! Bottom line, moderation is my friend!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-12 12:53:44 -0500 Report

Biker what ever works for you is what you should do. I agree it might not work for the rest of us but you are an inspiration to someone out there. My goal is to get below 6.5 and I am working on it.

As we get older, our bodies change and gravity takes it's toll. Ok let's not talk about gravity…LOL. When people retire, many slow down from the daily grind and can't see to find something new to do. You are working on being able to exercise the way you use to. I have the feeling you will still be running with the big dogs and nothing is going to stop you. You have a very positive attitude about life which is why I enjoy talking to you.

Keep doing what you do to stay healthy and no it isn't just you. I think at times some of us have the very same feelings wonder if it is just us.

old biker
old biker 2012-07-12 14:06:16 -0500 Report

Thank you Joyce..I have been thinking about starting this discussion for awhile I just didn't know how I wanted to present this.So I took a page right out of my life..We have more new members every day not all, but for the most they are pre-diagnosed or just starting out on meds, they are scared with so many questions and we give them a lot of grate information about how this can be controlled with oral meds diet and exercise
We all know everyone is different..I didn't want those few who are started out on insulin or those who find that for ever what reason they might have to be switched to insulin that they have failed some how due to no fault of their own.
Oh yeah did I ever tell you Joyce I think you are sooo cool !!!

Anonymous 2012-07-12 16:23:13 -0500 Report

Biker I spent 10 years as at a volunteer fire station as an EMT. I trained for three months with the city's fire department. I have encountered all kinds of people. The 12 year old who grabbed her moms inhaler by mistake because it looked like hers. She nearly died from an allergic reaction, the 16 year old who endured the pain of a broken ankle to take off the first pair of new shoes he had ever owned, countless diabetics who didn't manage their diabetes who were found to be hypo or hyperglycemic, the 50 year old woman who tried to commit suicide because she woke up one day and realized that being so nasty and evil to people had driven all of her friends and family away from her and so forth.

All of these people were scared because they didn't know what was happening or going to happen to them. I treated them all with dignity and respect. There are people on this site who are scared, angry as well as those who won't take care of themselves. You can't be angry because you are sick and not taking proper care of yourself is your own fault. The only person who is being hurt by not taking care of yourself is you. If you do this and die, your family will miss you, over time spouses will fall in love with someone else while you lay dead in a cold dark grave.

Our parents gave us life, it is up to us to do something with it as it is up to us to take care of ourselves and try to be as healthy as possible. We are here because of genetics or bad food choices throughout our lives. Diabetes is a life changing, life altering disease but we can still make the most out of our lives.

The best way to beat fear is to face it. Being scared only delays the inevitable. The fact that you have diabetes and that you must do something about it if you want to continue living your life. The same is true with depression, if you don't fight it, it will drag you down so far you will need a lot of help to come back up.

If you start out at point"A" and you want to get to point "Z" you have to keep your head and strive to get to that point. There won't be a straight line and there will be obstacles that you will have to face. The points from A-Z is life and unless we are willing to reach each point in life we have to be strong and do what it takes to get to that point.

Thanks Biker, I think you are cool also :>)

Nick1962 2012-07-12 11:41:39 -0500 Report

Not sure exactly what your question is. Is it insulin versus meds? I don't have to deal with either (for now), so i can't comment on effective management. In my opinion, whatever measures you take to manage comfortably shouldn't matter.
Life changes, so your approach will always change as well. My problem was similar - i went from a fairly physical job/career to a desk job with long stretches driving (overseeing the likes of folks like you), so I'm always sitting. I fit the profile for PAD, and thankfully have managed to ward it off so far. Also, thankfully I've reached the age that nothing really freaks me out anymore - see a fire, try to put it out, move on.
I don't think it's just you.

MAYS 2012-07-12 11:10:38 -0500 Report

Great story!
It's best to manage your diabetes by whatever means necessary!
If that means is by nutritional watching, oral medications, herbs, exercising or insulin, the main objective is managing your diabetes so if one doesn't work for you look into trying another (at least with diabetes we have other options).

Type1Lou 2012-07-12 10:43:38 -0500 Report

Congrats on your WONDERFUL results. You've proved that with the right knowledge and the determination to make the correct decisions we can manage our diabetes!