i do not know where to even start

By bklyngirl62 Latest Reply 2012-08-09 00:59:43 -0500
Started 2012-07-11 17:06:30 -0500

i just been diagnosed pre-diabetic my a1c is 6.2, i can not get in touch with my dr now and i am waiting for him to tell me if i am going on metformin. i have been through so many different test in the last 6 months it isnt funny. but at 49 it seems i am falling apart. i have tried losing weight to no avail. i can look at food and just gain weight. i have changed my diet to be healthy. i am tired and feel run down all the time. if i do any type of activity my body wants a nap. i have been diagnosed with…celiac..acid reflux..a low thyroid…but not low enough for meds.. i was told to go on a low carb 1200 calorie diet and if that dont work in 3 months it will be reduced to 1000. so soon i will just inhale
air and that will do it. i have this weird smell all the time..like rotten fruit.. i know that is a symptom but does it ever go away or am i going to have to live
with it. i need to lose 70 lbs to be back to normal weight. exercising is very difficult because everything hurts. i try to work through it but i cant. i am so afraid that all this is going to cause yet another bout with depression. i do not know how to dig myself out right now. i can use any and all advice and past
experiences. i know no two people are the same. but just being able to hear what you have to offer will help

40 replies

doggier 2012-07-15 11:18:24 -0500 Report

You know sometimes, it seem like the mountain we have to climb is too hard and we will never get there. This disease is not a easy one. I need to do the same thing you need to do. I need to lose about 100 pounds. I am not going to try to do everything at once. This summer I am just trying to get my body moving. I try to exercise 5 days a week at my pace. I have to sit down a whole lot but I do make it 3 time around the track. Take your time and don't try everything at one time. Good luck!

Set apart
Set apart 2012-07-15 08:44:35 -0500 Report

Well everyone has given you all some great information, I just want to say that D can be discouraging and if you're not prepared for certain times it can get you down. By this I mean those special invites, or dinner at a restaurant. Make sure you plan ahead for your day whether it is just by eating a little something before you go out, take your own cut up veggies to a friends, find restaurants that offer you choices, etc… One last thing BELIEVE that you can do this and visit DC for motivation, it helps! Good luck!

Darron 2012-07-14 17:58:39 -0500 Report

Hey bklyngirl62, I know how you feel. I have been on the ups and downs since I was diagnosed. I can tell you as much as I hate exercise, I actually feel better when I do exercise and eat the right foods. It takes a while to get to that point so don't give up, stay with it.
Your friend

TsalagiLenape 2012-07-14 08:25:44 -0500 Report

Well with your medical issues all converging on your body tis no wonder why you are tired and hurting all the time. So take small steps even if they are baby steps. You can do it cause we are here to help you and support you. Gentle hugs

Debbiejf 2012-07-14 00:23:24 -0500 Report

Alrighty then :), I have read most if not all replies to your post and as everyone agrees this is a great place to meet new friends and get the best input on diabetes as we all have it…to different degrees (by that I mean type 1 or 2 etc.) but we @dc are the best support system to help anyone who needs it. For me I was diagnosed 28 yrs ago and for 20+ of those years ignored my diabetes and yes I am paying the price BUT I didn't have the support and knowledge I have gained since joining dc. I came to dc about a year ago or so and kind of wandered away for awhile even, however, I have returned with a vengence to try to help anyone I can to keep from making the mistakes I did :). First of all 6.2 a1c is a good number, mine is 6.3-having worked backwards from 13.1, so yeah I do know about bad numbers. Mine have been steadily fallling and I continue to surprise my doctor ;D. It's unfortunate that she really doesn't know as much as I think she should about diabetes to be a bigger help to me. The warnings weren't specific enough to get through my hard head, ergo the problems I have now. For me I have finally figured out that I had to eliminate all breads, pasta all things white from my food intake with the exception of cauliflower and even potatoes-surprise surprise. I don't eat corn, it's useless, of no value to me at all. Mostly I eat salads, mixing the ingredients up to keep it interesting, and some meats. I do test about every 3 hours unless I'm not feeling right and then it is more often. I don't count calories or carbs but I limit my intake to what I can eat that I know has very little effect on my bs. I have learned so much from all here on dc and continue to, I don't know it all (imagine how hard that is to admit LOL) and appreciate everyone here who contributes to my continued education of diabetes. I am willing to bet that smell you mention has nothing to do with your pre-diabetes. I have to constantly remind myself of the term 'use it or lose it' to move around as much as possible though it's difficult :). Good luck to you!

Tony5657 2012-07-12 21:13:54 -0500 Report

Welcome to this wonderful group of people, and I would underline WONDERFUL if I could. I've had a crash course in just a little over a month and have learned so much, all of it good stuff. Just don't give up hope. That's a daily choice that I make, through good times & crappy times. Thank God for what you DO have and ask Him for help in appropriating the rest, what you need, what you want, even what you should have. I'm still learning tons of things here that are helping me and so will you, if you are open to all this "cyber" encouragement. :o) These are very real people here, just like you & I. We can have victory during these seemingly dark times but the choice is ours - the choice to keep on keeping on. Like the old saying goes, it's always the darkest just before the dawn. You can do this. Hey, just remember and take it one day at a time. That's my 2 cents worth of encouragement. Ol' Tony5657 in New Braunfels, TX

cindygal1 2012-07-12 20:35:14 -0500 Report

Welcome to out little world, where you can make friends and learn at the same time. I was fortune when I was diagnosed with diabetes, it was both sides of our family, so I knew a lot then and had pently of help, but when I was dianosed with it they send you diabetes school then, and I think that should be doing it, you learn a lot. I also have acid reflux and I also have ulcers and I am asllertic to so many medication that it is not funny, but I can' t give up I just got out of the hospital with penuomia and it will take time to get my strencth back, but I have to do it, because I have a sick husbsnd to take care of and a 12 year Grandson that I am helpinf to raise. I just turned 66, but I must go on for my family. You will fine that it is not hard to get used to being a diabetic and we all face depression, and get fed up with all that we have to do, but you have to do it, so that you can take casre of yourself. I would like to be your friend on diabetes connect. Please let mw know if we can firned.

Troope 2012-07-12 16:58:30 -0500 Report

Glad to have you on DC! I just joined the community here recently. The first thing i would say to you is that you are NOT alone. When i was first diagnosed, i did not know one single person who was diabetic. You will find some great advice here. Take some time and look through the discussions and the resources on the site. There are no silly questions.

tabby9146 2012-07-12 12:26:11 -0500 Report

Welcome to DC! good thing you were diagnosed as pre-diabetic. you have a great opportunity to change your diet and make sure to exercise most days for at least a half hour. Great advice all have offered, I can't add much more to it. most of what was said, were things I would first tell you. Remember, you CAN possibly prevent full blown diabetes. I know some who have, for years now, by sticking to a good healthy eating plan, I don't like to say diet, and exercising. This increases your chances greatly of not turning into it, and if you don't have much of a family history of diabetes, then that increases chances, with the lifestyle too, of it never happening, but I know it is a shock and makes you nervous for sure. Good luck to you!

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-11 23:20:21 -0500 Report

Hi welcome to DC. The first step is going to be the hardest. I am on a 1200 calorie diet but I don't eat that many calories per day. I usually eat 1000. I managed to lose about 100lbs simply by changing my diet and lowering my A1C to 6.5.

Start by eliminating starchy white foods such as bread, pasta, potatoes, rice and sugar including raw and brown sugar from your diet. Corn and peas are starch laden veggies. I am now able to add those to my diet but that took a lot of work. Stay away from sodas and juices that are high in carbs or high fructose corn syrup. If you want a soda switch to sugar free. Stay hydrated and the best way to do that is by drinking water. I add crystal light to my water.

Be leery of sauces unless you make your own. I use low fat salad dressing and I only use a tablespoon of that. Processed foods should be avoided they are high in sodium and some have high amount of carbs. This includes frozen dinners, french fries, meats and lunch meats. I bake, broil or grill all meats including bacon and sausage. With the summer upon us go to a farmers market if they are near you and buy fresh veggies. Some can be cooked and frozen.

Exercise does not mean you have to join a gym. Walking is just as good as long as you do it daily. I walk around a block or two every day. You can even find exercise instructions on You Tube that are great for beginners.

I know this is overwhelming however, it doesn't have to be if you start out slowly. I use to have neuropathy in my feet so bad would wake up in the middle of the night ready to scream. My feet hurt that badly. Since I got my blood sugar under control it rarely happens. Even with the pain on a daily basis, I managed to walk. I got a good pair of thick soled well cushioned tennis shoes and kept going.

You can go to dlife.com and get all kinds of information. Kraft foods has a section devoted to meals with recipes for diabetics. You may have to change them to suit your needs. My mom was pre-diabetic when she was in her 70's and the change in her diet caused her to lose weight and she never developed complete diabetes. She was 6.2 also when diagnosed. She never went on medicine.

You can do this. It may seem very hard to do but once you get started you will find it will get easier. You have to be diligent and preserve because you can reverse this. Good luck to you.

bklyngirl62 2012-07-12 10:19:21 -0500 Report

i have celiac so i have emlinated alot of foods already..the problem is losing the weight…i have changed the way i eat..i was on ideal protein diet for 5 months and going to gym every day lost 15 lbs. and that was strick. that was a yr ago and i gained it back . i have to find the right balance for me now…i can not live like that.. right now i am making small goals and when met will keep going…

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-12 12:43:39 -0500 Report

Great. Nothing is going to happen over night. In the mean time take a break from all of this. Being overwhelmed, frustrated and depressed isn't good for you or your health Sometimes taking a break from your problems for a day or two is a big help. Find something you enjoy doing or simply do something fun just for yourself. It can be anything from relaxing with a book, going to the mall and finding something you want and not need or spending an evening with a friend and talk about anything, laugh have some fun. This will help with depression and from being overwhelmed. I have found that my "Brain Breaks" are great for me and I come back refreshed.

MAYS 2012-07-11 23:03:33 -0500 Report

Welcome to the family!
You have been given some great advice, I would like to add this:

Take your time, nothing is going to help you over night more than your self confidence.
You are going to have to believe in you 100% from start to finish, forget about the setbacks from the past, we are talking about a new day and a new you!

You have to work with your doctors, you must give all that you can, when you can, although it can be rough at times, it can be done!

So let's start from the beginning, from step one, let's learn more about what's ailing you and what can be done to make things better for you.
It's time to create a plan, we are ready whenever you are, so let's get going!


old biker
old biker 2012-07-11 20:52:08 -0500 Report

Hi Bklyngirl
welcome to diabetic connect..Listen to what Kevin had to say, there's a lot of good advice there to use as a starting point. The important thing to remember is to not let all this overwhelm you. You have been diagnosed as pre-diabetic which is a good thing your A1c is lower then mine.
You now have the chance to turn this negative into a positive force in your life. So many will tell you myself included that we are now living a healthy lifestyle as a result of managing our diabetes
Diabetes is a life long chronic illness that you can control, and it takes a life long commitment from you to do so, and believe me you can do this..Take it one step at a time. Listen what your doctor has to say, and ask questions, find a low carb diet and start walking a little more each day and the weight will start to come off..There are so many of us that have started off in a lot worse shape then you are.
Don't dwell on the negative dwell on the positive..Just think in a years time you will be a new slimmer and healthier you with a new lease and out look on life..That's not a bad thing. Diabetes is not going to go away so make it work for you. Remember today is the first day of the rest of your life, and make each day count Go to your calendar and circle today's date and mark it as the day I changed my life for the better.
Much luck and success on your journey through life

bklyngirl62 2012-07-11 20:57:03 -0500 Report

old biker you are a very wise man…but you made me cry…i am not dwelling i am trying to learn as much as i can to make myself better..i do believe as you do i am tired of being sick..so positive i will be

DeanaG 2012-07-11 20:19:35 -0500 Report

I agree with Gabby.
One step at a time and journaling is a great place to start. I also did this when first diagnosed and need to get back to it.
Remember you are not alone in this fight!

GabbyPA 2012-07-11 19:56:02 -0500 Report

Take this on one step at a time. Pick something you want to change an start there. With just one thing. Don't worry about the other things, they will get their chance.

It sounds like your doctor has a goal, and if that is your goal, to loose weight, then maybe start there with journaling your daily intake of food. Write down the calories, the carbs, the fats and proteins. Be honest. Be brutally honest and you will see where things can be tweaked.

I did this when I started, but I have grown lazy with it and it shows. I am going to start again and I have to take my own advice. We can share things in emails if you want a buddy to help you along?

bklyngirl62 2012-07-11 20:07:12 -0500 Report

the one thing i want is to start feeling better. i do like the journal idea i need to learn so much. would love a buddy ty

Kirla 2012-07-11 17:58:13 -0500 Report

I wouldn’t worry about the exercising too much. If you can get out and walk a little it will help. Then every week try and walk a little further. Over time you should be able to do more but for now start small.

There are several low carb diets out there. Research by using google and find one that you feel you might like. Most are the same with little differences. I kind of follow Atkins myself. I just try and keep the Saturated Fat below 10% of my total calories. The main thing is to cut back as much as possible on high carb starchy foods like pasta. Bread and most foods made of flour. Potatoes and corn are high carb foods also. Again google low carb food and eat those. I personally don’t eat any foods with more than 5-6 net carbs per serving. You might want to start with more. But you shouldn’t try and eat less. Eating lots of low carb vegetables is good for us balanced with a little fat and protein will help with blood sugar control.

An A1C of 6.2 isn’t really that bad. Mine started a whole lot higher. I was able to control blood sugar, loose 50 pounds and get off all meds in a short amount of time. It wasn’t that hard but you have to make choices. You need to put your health above everything else.

I replaced bread with low carb wraps and pita bread. Got to read labels. Most are high carb foods so learn how to read labels if you already don’t know how. I just would wait for a few weeks or until you drop some weight because using them.

When taking metformun I didn’t have an appetite. Had to force myself to eat. Not sure if everyone has this reaction but it may help if you like to eat a lot. I don’t believe in taking drugs for the rest of my life but taking them when needed I do approve of. Just after several months if learn to control your blood sugar and loose a lot of weight your doctor will probley have a fit if you want to reduce or stop them. You might have to make some choices of your own.

This is what has helped me. Its what someone believes will help you also, you got nothing to loose by eating lots of vegetables.

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals. I test 5-7 times a day. I cut back or eliminated foods that spiked my blood sugar more than 50 points after eating.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

After about 6-8 weeks my blood sugar readings were almost normal levels.

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard boiled egg to my meals helped reduce blood sugar spikes also.

Good luck

n2late 2012-07-12 19:02:53 -0500 Report

I always try to read all the post because it seems we all contribute to each others well being wither we acknowledge this truth or not.channa dal sounds like a food i want to get to know much better.good info kirla great link!!!

CJ55 2012-07-12 00:08:54 -0500 Report

hello, you mentioned you don't eat more than 5-6 net carbs per serving. I am not sure I understand this. I was told to eat 30 breakfest, 15 snack, 30 lunch, 15 snack, 45 dinner. Total for day.. 135 carbs per day. From what you said, this seems high, or maybe I am not figureing this out right. Can you please help ?? Ty

Kirla 2012-07-13 11:29:03 -0500 Report

The 5-6 net carbs per serving is only for a particular food. Not for the whole meal. For instance broccoli has about 3 net carbs per serving after you subtract the fiber, I found I can eat it with little effect on my blood sugar. Most bread has 15 or more net carb per slice. Since most of the time we make a sandwich with 2 slices it would be about 30 grams net carbs per serving. But even the 1 slice is too much for me.

This is something I came up with by testing before and after eating. I soon realized that if I ate foods, that when I read the label and looked at total carbs and then subtracted the fiber, if it was less than 5 or 6, I was able to eat it without it spiking my blood sugar too much.

As far as eating a whole meal I found that I could eat several foods containing carbs as long as all foods eaten were less than 5-6 net carbs per serving. Add something over that and my blood sugar will spike more than what I like. I also found that if I reduced the serving size of any food so when I eat it its less than the 5-6 net carbs will also have little effect on my blood sugar. But it hard to eat ¼ slice of bread or one teaspoon of corn or one teaspoon of potatoes or I avoid them.

When first diagnosed I didn’t know what to eat. It seemed everything I put into my mouth spiked my blood sugar. I mostly ate low carb vegetables and at night would force myself to eat some chicken or fish to get my calories above 1200 for the day. I figure back then I was eating about 30 grams carbs per day.

Over time I found other foods that were low carb and added them to my diet. I now eat about 75–100 grams nets carbs per day.

Mornings I found I have to limit too less that 5 net carbs. Lunch and dinner I can eat up to maybe 30-40 net carbs per meal. Snacks I try and keep them too less that 5-10 net carbs.

This is what I developed as I measured my blood sugar before and after eating. If having 130 grams carbs per day works for you than keep doing it. If not try and lower it to maybe 100 or less per day. I heard some people can eat more. Were all different. That’s what I like about Atkins.

Atkins diet is tailored for each person once you get out of phase 1. His diet has you adding carbs 5 per week until your weight loss stabilizes. Once it stabilizes you can either reduce it by 5-10 net carbs and continue to lose weight or leave it where it is if you reach your goal. I believe you can do the same for blood sugar control. Add 5 per week if doing good or subtract 5 per week if not doing to good until you find the right number for you.

CJ55 2012-07-14 11:11:39 -0500 Report

Kirla… Ty for the info. I am going to buy the Atkins book and read it. I get confused about carbs, net carbs.. Etc. i do have one question regarding the Atkins diet.. I know you dont eat carbs, if u do it isnt much. However, wont eating all the other foods up your cholesterol? I just had my chol done and my total was 136 which was awesome. I really dont want mine to go higher. Have a great day!!!

Kirla 2012-07-14 17:18:52 -0500 Report

You can join the Atkins Website here. Just sign up and they send you a free getting started package. The package consists of a quick start guide, some Atkins bars and a carb count book. Not all foods in the carb count book are low carb. They list lots of foods with higher carb counts so you know what to avoid.

The website takes a little time to get used too. But if you explore there website there is a lot of information there for you to read. It’s all free. Spend some time there looking around.

There isn’t anything to be confused about between carbs and net carbs. If you read the label of any product you will find the total carbs somewhere there. They also list the fiber carbs. All you need to do is subtract the fiber from the total and you have what Atkins refers to net carbs. It’s that easy. You may see other thing listed under the carbs section like sugar but all you need to concern yourself with is TOTAL CARBS and FIBER. The rest you can ignore.

Cholesterol may or may not be a problem. I have had problem controlling my cholesterol for over 20 years now. About 20 years ago I bought a book by Dr. Ron and Nancy Goor (Eaters Choice). The book was all about controlling cholesterol with diet. According to them Saturated fat has a direct relationship with cholesterol. They believed that limiting your saturated fat intake to less that 10% of your total calories each day will result in you controlling your cholesterol. It worked for me. Some people have to cut it to less than 6%. They had meal plans for both 6% and 10%. Best book I ever bought for my health.

Even now when doing an Atkins like diet I pretty much keep my total saturated sat intake to about 10% and cholesterol stays ok. It’s ok to eat meat just keep serving sizes to 2-4 oz’s for beef or pork. Chicken and turkey you may be able to eat more as with ham. I find most ham is a low saturated product. The only thing I really watch in my diet is saturated fat. Since I don’t eat any high carb starchy foods I don’t have to worry about them. Eating low carb vegetables I also don’t have to worry about how much I eat. Unless your going to eat a very large serving, low carb vegetables usually don’t spike my blood sugar. Eating some meat or hard boiled egg will limit any spike the carbs in the low carb foods may cause.

The last time I evaluated my diet on www.sparkpeople.com using there nutrient analyzer my diet consisted of 20% carbs (mostly from low carb vegetables) 20% protein and 60% fats. The fats were from vegetables sources and nuts and seeds. Trans fat were close to zero and saturated fat was about 10% of my total calories. I have been doing this for over 3 years now with pretty good blood sugar control.

If you decide to buy an Atkins book I recommend you buy there newer one. The newer one allows for lots of low carb vegetables. Not sure about his older books but there the ones people think of when thinking of Atkins. The diet isn’t much like the rumors. Especially if you get one of the newer books.

One last thing. Atkins kind of push there products in some of there meal plans. If you can afford the shakes and bars then you can use them. They are expensive. But you don’t have to include them in the diet. I have used the shakes. I like them. I buy them when on sale in BJS. Even on sale they cost about a dollar a piece. The bars I have tried with mixed results. Sometimes I get a spike from eating them and sometimes I didn’t. I don’t recommend the bars. If you find some where there on sale and you can afford them then try them. Just test before and after eating them to see if you didn’t spike your blood sugar. I do use the shakes all the time but you really don’t have to buy there products if you don’t want to.

Atkins is a four phase diet. Some people can start in phase 2 and for me going to phase 4 would have me eating more carbs than my systems can tolerate. I’m now somewhere between phase 2 and phase 3. Figure to stay there forever.

CJ55 2012-07-14 17:40:51 -0500 Report

Kirla, again ty. My cholesterol is wonderful right now. I haven't been below 180 in years and I want to keep it that way at 136. The atkins Diet sounds like it would be great to try. Right now I am on my way to Atlantic City Nj for 5 days. I am going to check out the web site you mentioned in a few mins. If need be, I can also buy the book. I do want to try the shakes. The price isn't a problem, liking them is. I have tried a couple of the bars, I didn't like them either. Do you drink the shakes as a snack or as part of a meal?? What I really want to learn about is the low carb veggies, fruits foods etc. i still have that problem.

Kirla 2012-07-14 21:00:31 -0500 Report

I went to Atlantic City last year. Spent a week in one of the resorts. It was late February and not much going on, on the boardwalk. But all the casinos were open. Next week were going to Vegas. I think it might be hot this time of year. Anyway the resort should have air conditioning. Next April were going back to Atlantic City unless we find some other place to go. But probley Atlantic City it is. Have a good time and take lots of pictures.

I used to drink one every morning for breakfast. Then about 1-2 hours later I have a small snack, works for me. I read somewhere that drinking a low carb protein shake first thing in the morning is supposed to help with blood sugar control. They did a study. All I know is it works for me. I now use a powder protein mix that works just as good as Atkins, but cost a lot less. I still buy Atkins when on sale and use them if I cannot eat when I was supposed to. Helps maintain my blood sugar until I can get a regular meal.

I bought the bars when on sale. Tried them and they did taste good but had mixed results with my blood sugar, so will probley not buy them any more.

As far as low carb foods go most meat is low carb unless they put sauce or something on it. Most green vegetables are low carb along with cauliflower. High carb vegetables are potatoes, corn and peas. Stay away. Seeds, peanuts and some nuts like almonds and walnuts are low carb. Most fish and seafoods are low carb. You can always google low carb foods and see what comes up. There are dozens of low carb vegetables. It would take a while for me to copy them out of the Atkins book. But even the Atkins books don’t list them all. I recommend you buy the latest Atkins book. There not written by Atkins but by doctors from the foundation. The newer books really push vegetables and other low carb foods.

Kirla 2012-07-14 21:04:34 -0500 Report

forgot about the berries. Berries in small amounts are lower carb fruits. If you like berries and can control how many you eat some people claim there ok. i have tried blueberries and they seemed ok in a small serving.