Obamacare - how do you feel about it?

old biker
By old biker Latest Reply 2013-11-07 21:56:22 -0600
Started 2012-06-28 11:09:38 -0500

OK The supreme court just upheld the heart of Obama's health care law how do you feel about this


218 replies

JBPO
JBPO 2013-11-07 21:56:22 -0600 Report

Type 1 Diabetic 47+ years; live in GA; had health insurance coverage through SHBP United Health Care; now being made to switch to HRA BCBSGa due to our incompetent, arrogant, idiot (I could go on) jerk of a President. Because of Obama's lame brain ACA I will now be paying more for all of my Diabetic supplies, & health care costs. My current Endocrinologist is not & does not participate in the HRA. Looks like I'm also paying more for premiums (with less coverage) & more out of pocket expenses.
I'm mad… Maybe I'll just become indigent, quit managing my Diabetes as well as I have for 47+ years & let Diabetic complications set-in & then our crappy govt. will have to pay for me. Our govt. can't or won't balance a budget so how in the hell do they think they can manage health care for Americans? We need to clean house on both sides of the aisles. Thanks a lot OneBigAssMistakeAmerica

bluekoala
bluekoala 2013-10-21 18:41:48 -0500 Report

I work for the State of Georgia and for years I had an HMO. Well thanks to Obamacare, I found out today during open enrollment that durable medical equipment is not covered 100%. If you have bronze it is 75/25%, silver, 80/20%, etc. I was getting my 50 strips every 30 days by mail for FREE. Now, it is going to cost me…alot. Express scripts said 50 strips will cost $63/mo. Now, I searched on the web for Acuchek Aviva Plus strips and found some for $28. Bottom like is before I was paying ZERO and now I'm going to have to pay something with a forced HRA. We used to get to chose an HRA…now, we have NO choice. What happened to Obama saying, "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance?" That is a BOLD FACED LIE. I never voted for him anyway but I really don't like him now. Why didn't he leave me heck alone?

IronOre
IronOre 2012-07-08 12:39:46 -0500 Report

I really don't know how anybody can comment on something they don't know much about.
All I know about Obamacare at this point is that it forces all people to get health insurance.
I have no idea what else is in the thousands of pages plan that he has, and to be quite frank I don't think anybody else does either.
So how people can say things like "it will help some" is beyond me how they came up with that conclusion.

old biker
old biker 2012-07-08 13:03:46 -0500 Report

Your entitled to your opinion on the bill, love it or hate it..But if you look further down you will find the opinion of lawyers who were paid to find out what this bill means for diabetics.
To assume that nobody knows what they are talking about or has a right to an opinion is assuming a lot. But that's just my opinion

IronOre
IronOre 2012-07-09 22:20:54 -0500 Report

Well, I for one want to know what's in it . . . so please point me in a direction that I can find out that info.
So what is in it for diabetics ?

IronOre
IronOre 2012-07-10 18:33:15 -0500 Report

Yes the link works; Here's the two main topics that I was able to get from the article:
* You will be mandated to buy insurance if you don't have it, or pay a fine
* Existing conditions cannot be turned down
. . . I am surprised that's all they could mention being a diabetes web page (did I miss anything).
In my 38 years of T1 I have never been turned down for insurance as I have always gotten it thru my employer - I think they are over-blowing the diabetics can't get insurance thing.
I am currently self-employed and without insurance, and am doing fine, but this does affect me for abvious reasons.
So will life be better for diabetics; with cheaper meds?, better care?, a cure?
A big NO, at least not according to that article.
So if there is a way that it will be better for diabetics, then change my mind on this.
The federal government has a recent poor track record, and with ObamaCare they are headed in the same direction.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-07-10 20:04:37 -0500 Report

Because you don't have insurance through an employer, it's highly unlikely you'll qualify for private insurance being a type 1, may depend on the state you live in. I can only say that also being a type 1 I know my own experiences in the same situation and all the states I've lived in refuse coverage with private insurance. The insurance company I had for 6 yrs through employer dropped me when our company changed options from three to two plans to choose from,I wanted to stay with the same, but their reason was that now I'm looked at as a brand new member and have pre-existing condition since it would now be private coverage! I can only be covered by employer insurance and have it through my husband.

As far as being better for diabetics, well, it will alow coverage which means "YES" as we can be seen by a drs and get presriptions needed instead of nothing, but paying out of pocket for ALL our needs. A cure, well that research will go on with or without Obamacare and how has it been going before it?

I read a different article that basically said when it goes into effect that everyone has to be covered, those who are not will be fined for each year of no coverage, but it will not be inforced. No jail time or tax penalty, wage garnishments, etc.. So basically if you don't want to get it, then don't, just be prepared to pay cost in full and probably upfront before being seen/treated:)

old biker
old biker 2012-07-10 19:35:45 -0500 Report

The question was " How do you feel about Obamacare" not how it pertains to PWD This bill will not effect me in any way personally. I have buried too many of my friends over the last 25 years because they couldn't afford health insurance and the effect on their families have been devastating
Is this bill perfect, Hell No, nothing is perfect in a non perfect world..But even a 1/4 loaf of bread is better then nothing if you are starving to death.
Trust me when I say I am no fan of Federal laws, rules, and regulations. History will pass the final judgement on how great our nation was or wasn't..I would hate to see a foot note that said..They didn't give a Sh*t about their young, old or sick
I know what it's like to get laid off and have no health insurance. I also know what it's like to get insurance through a company plan, and then get letters about any pre existing condition when certain tests were asked for.
Will this bill help me. No..But it might help others and their families who face a every day struggle with chronic illness and having to deal with a stinking feeling they can no longer afford to stay alive
Every one is entitled to their own opinion..It's not my job to try to change yours

IronOre
IronOre 2012-07-10 21:34:58 -0500 Report

There is definitely something wrong with health care in our country but to have the federal government take it over !!! That is the very last thing I want. Their record is full of failure.
I have friends without health insurance, and can't afford what they need, but here in Wisconsin they can get it, and that's what it should be up to > each state.
Maybe it's not your job to change my mind, but I am open to you trying if you want. So far I've heard nothing but weak arguments.

Troope
Troope 2012-07-03 10:46:33 -0500 Report

New to the site, not new to diabetes unfortunately. In my opinion, Obamacare was not meant to be the end all be all fix for healthcare. It is a start. A first step. The insurance companies, drug companies, and other lobbies have a stranglehold on healthcare in this country. This is a beginning of trying to break that and provide care to all for free. I firmly do not believe i will see it in my lifetime in the US. It simply has to start somewhere. The fact Obama had the guts to push this through earns him some respect in my mind.

Fareed Zakaria on CNN recently did a show about healthcare around the world and how the US stacked up versus other countries. It was eye opening.

So while i may not feel warm and fuzzy about the current ACA, i do believe it can be shaped and refined into something good for everyone.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-07-03 19:58:50 -0500 Report

Howdy Troope, WELCOME to DiabeticConnect!

That is not the opinion of others. In fact Mike Adams, "the Health Ranger"
in Natural News says the ACA is the "the Great Swindle" since "Obamacare legislation was practically written by the health insurance companies, and they sure didn't put their weight behind a sweeping new law that would earn them less profit." That is only part of what he had to say about it. Read more here ~ http://www.naturalnews.com/036361_Obamacare_t...

It is such a massive bill, I believe it is necessary to repeal it completely and start from scratch. There are some components which could well be preserved, but most if it should be repealed and replaced

hughsbayou
hughsbayou 2012-07-04 15:07:03 -0500 Report

Considering what it took to pass it that would be just about impossible. And if the insurance companies are going to profit so mightily from it why have they led the opposition to it? There is an important clause in the bill that states that 85% of the premiums paid have to go to actual delivery of healthcare not to administration (i.e. CEO salaries). Refunds are being issued this year, over 1 billion dollars. Medicare has an 8% overhead, most for profits have an overhead of more like 25 - 30 %. That's before the profits.

I have health insurance again because of this bill, for a couple of years, after having been scammed and losing what I had had, I was denied repeatedly due to the T2 diagnosis. So I'm in favor of it though I would prefer a single payer system operated on a state by state or regional basis.

Troope
Troope 2012-07-06 09:59:55 -0500 Report

I was unable to get life insurance at age 40 because i had double bypass surgery at age 38, along with my diabetes. I found this out after buying a house and trying to get all my insurance in place. After a bit, i was able to get a high risk one size fits all policy. I know life and health insurance are different, but it was a complete shock to me. Guess i was naive. It was certainly a lesson learned that is worth passing along to others.. to get life insurance in place before something happens are you cannot get approved.

flgrammy
flgrammy 2012-07-02 10:05:14 -0500 Report

I just wanted to share a very small part of my story with those of you who said or agreed with "the Lord helps those who help themself" or everyone should be responsible. I worked my entire young and adult life, I did everything I was supposed to do to be responsible and I had good health insurance when I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. I had two major brain surgeries and have had a very rough and lengthy recovery which unfortunately is not a full recovery. As a reward for my being such a responsible person, I lost my home, my car, everything because of the medical bills. These are bills after the insurance paid. Now I struggle every day to survive. Even given all of this, I do not agree with Obamacare because most of all I am a devout Christian and since abortion is contained in the bill I cannot support it. Just thought I would give you another perspective.

mary, the diabetes lady
mary, the diabetes lady 2012-07-07 09:59:42 -0500 Report

I am also against abortion. Couple of things I would ask you to think about. First, the health care bill does not pay for abortions. Check it out - it doesn't. Second, if you are pro-life (as I am) than how could you in any way be against the ACA bill? On the CNN report that was talked about in this thread, they reported that 137,000 people die each year because they didn't have insurance to pay for their medical needs. How do you see abortion as being wrong but not see how the lack of insurance has cost so many lives. Just curious.

flgrammy
flgrammy 2012-07-07 10:22:11 -0500 Report

Mary, since I have first hand knowledge and experience of what it is to be without health insurance, I assure you I would never wish anyone to go without it and suffer what I have been through and continue to go through to this day because of limited coverage! Having said that, I still worry about the way the actual bill is written. I will as you have suggested, take a second look at the actual bill and not rely on the media's reporting on abortion being covered, thank you so much for the suggestion. I believe in the sanctity of all life so please do not suppose to know me well enough to say that I approve of people dying, I do not. I thank you for your reply and pray that what we have discussed will get a lot of people looking at the bill and talking about. Kind regards.

mary, the diabetes lady
mary, the diabetes lady 2012-07-07 11:27:37 -0500 Report

figrammy, You clearly have had a very rough go of health. I am so sorry for you. I know of no one who would ever change places with you. I believe that the healthcare bill will abolish this horrible going bankrupt or flat broke the "after affect" of our current system.
May I take this opportunity to say that I never presumed to know you well enough to say that you approve of people dying. If I did know you well, I am willing to bet that you would never approve of people dying nor would you want them to be ill or without the ability to pay. What I did say and possibly was not clear on, was I was wondering how you equate and differentiate between abortion and people dying because they don't have healthcare. People die either way.
The reason I am curious is because I hear this type of thing from others and I am seriously curious about what I may be missing here.
Thanks so much. I pray to my God that your life be filled with much good health and that you also recover financially. Thanks so much.

tabby9146
tabby9146 2012-07-03 09:50:26 -0500 Report

yes I am totally against abortion also. I am so sorry this happened to you, this should not happen to anyone. bless you.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-02 11:21:42 -0500 Report

Grammy so sorry to hear of your illness. There are millions of people in this country who can relate to what you are going through. An illness can decimate an entire family. Insurance companies will only cover so much of the bill. The out of pocket expenses can be astronomical. Many people cannot afford to cover those cost.

Grammy, you have a right to your beliefs. I no longer have anything to do with organized religion. I simply cannot do that anymore. I worked with a woman who claimed to be a devout Christian who was in church on Sunday, sang on the choir, was at bible study and taught Sunday School yet treated her coworkers like dirt under her feet. I asked her how could she be a Christian and Satan at the same time. She stopped talking to me.

Women have a right to choose to give birth. However, on the same hand if they don't want children both parties should take steps to prevent pregnancy. My best friend sent her daughter to the store one evening with her brother around 5:30 as it was just getting dark. The store is in the next block from where they live. Her brother forgot to get the money from their mother and ran back to the house to get it. While waiting for her brother to return, a man grabbed the daughter, put his hand over her mouth dragged her into some bushes and raped her. When her brother came out he didn't see her and ran to the store thinking she was there. When he didn't see her he thought she was in the house and he missed her coming back out. He ran back home. When my girlfriend, her son came back out, she was crawling out of the bushes.

The man who raped her daughter got her pregnant and she desperately wanted and abortion she was 14 years old. Her mother refused. She contacted her father who also wanted the child aborted but since her mother had custody there was little he could do. The child was born and my girlfriends daughter wanted nothing to do with the baby. My girlfriend told her daughter it was God's will. She told her then you and God take care of it. She lived in the house with her mom and never once did a thing for the baby. She moved out when she was 18 and signed the rights away to the child. My girlfriend adopted the baby.

There are rape victims all over this country who were able to abort babies of the men who raped them all because we have the right to do so. I say give them that right because for some the children are not wanted, are abused or put into foster care where they are still mistreated.

flgrammy
flgrammy 2012-07-03 10:05:32 -0500 Report

Just Joyce I am so very sorry you had such an awful experience with your "Christian" co-worker. Unfortunately there seems to be an abudance of these types of people that give the rest of us a bad name. However on the other point, I respect your right to have a different view than mine and I truly feel for your friend's daughter and more importantly the child she could not accept. I just can't change my heart no matter the circumstances as I feel all life is precious. I am looking at my beautiful 11 month old grandson as I write this and I just can't imagine a world without him. Nonetheless, I am grateful that we have a forum to both voice our opinions and that we can remain friends even though our views are different. Thanks for responding to my post.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-03 17:59:47 -0500 Report

Grammy, I have friends from all kinds of religious backgrounds whose beliefs are almost unbelievable. I don't fault anyone for their beliefs they have a right to believe what they choose. There are people who don't support Obamacare because it has the abortion element in it.

I support freedom of choice because too many women have died or been severely injured by back alley butchers posing as doctors. Women don't want children for various reasons yet don't always take steps to prevent pregnancy. There are teen parents who have done the same thing.

Sure you can have the child and put it up for adoption. Unfortunately not everyone is willing to adopt older children and many age out of the Foster Care Center.

Abortion is a choice for those who need or want it. I say let them have that in the Obamacare plan and give women that option.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-07-01 18:39:01 -0500 Report

FWIW - from another website: "Facebook Comments About SCOTUS Obamacare Ruling" read it here ~ http://patriotupdate.com/articles/facebook-co...

old biker
old biker 2012-07-01 21:45:52 -0500 Report

James do do believe that you can get an honest unbiased opinion on a site that calls it self The official Mitt Romney site.James google how Canadians pay for health care and read the survey results about how they feel about their system..This is Romney care it;s the same mandate that was implemented in his state when he was Gov.. He took full credit for it then and called it a great deal

hawk1962
hawk1962 2012-06-30 17:01:32 -0500 Report

I want to help out others not continue to foot the entire bill. The lord helps those who help themselves!

mary, the diabetes lady
mary, the diabetes lady 2012-07-07 10:17:50 -0500 Report

We could play "bible tag" all day and quite possibly still never agree.

I might appeal to your pocketbook. For every person who is without insurance and goes into a medical facility such as the nearby hospital ER and can not pay for their own care, guess who ultimately pays that bill? Yep! We do. Those of us who have medical coverage see a rise in our premiums because somebody has to cover that person's care.

The rising cost of medicine today because of a number of factors including indigent care, greed by Big Pharma, rising cost of malpractice insurance, etc, is going to bankrupt our country in the near future.

Oh, and as my part of the bible tag game let me just add, "as long as you do this to the least of my brethern, you do this to me" Just saying.

Matthew 25
Douay-Rheims Bible

34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: 36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

flgrammy
flgrammy 2012-07-02 10:09:33 -0500 Report

hawk1962 I pray you never ever get sick with a major illness that requries major medical intervention, our diabetes is bad enough but there is more you can go through. You can read my comment above for context.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-01 19:17:01 -0500 Report

The lord also gave us the ability to help others. Tell that to the vet fought for this country and is now sleeping on the street because he has Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome to the point he can't function. Tell the 92 year old man the lord helps those who helps themselves as he chooses between food, medication or power. Tell that to the divorce mom of two who lost her job and her house and is sleeping in her car or in a shelter. Tell that to the family staying in a Ronald McDonald House who is there because their child has a terminal illness and they have drained their savings account paying for treatments the insurance company won't pay for.

The lord does help those who help themselves but the lord also had compassion for those who couldn't.

flgrammy
flgrammy 2012-07-02 10:12:23 -0500 Report

Thank you for voicing so eloquently what I could not in my comment but I agree with your comment.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-02 11:01:26 -0500 Report

Thank you grammy. I think you did an excellent job in getting your point across. Hawke will one day eat those words in the worse possible way.

MHoskins2179
MHoskins2179 2012-06-30 10:56:08 -0500 Report

Sitting at a restaurant last night, I overheard a conversation between two men who were obviously not happy with the ruling, health care law overall. One made the point: "We're all human beings, and I feel bad that everyone doesn't have insurance. They should. But it's not MY responsibility to pay for them.."

To me, that illustrates the disconnect so many have on this. We claim to be wanting what's right for our fellow human beings, but we're too selfish to pay for it. To recognize that we ALL have the duty, as fellow people, to help each other out.

A friend from Australia was visiting recently and we started talking about all this. They have universal coverage. It's not a political discussion; never has been. People just understand that it's about more than you or me, it's about all of us being healthy and helping out society in whatever way we're supposed to.

That is what is wrong with this country, in my opinion. We can't see past our arrogance of personal freedom, and at the end of the day it too often trumps basic human decency.

old biker
old biker 2012-07-02 08:27:25 -0500 Report

" If a free society can not help the many who are poor. It canot save the few who are rich" John F Kennedy

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-01 19:35:14 -0500 Report

Back in the 60's when I was growing up, we were neighbors and neighborly. If your neighbor didn't have an onion you gave him/her one, if a neighbor needed a ride, you provided one, if a neighbor was sick you took them chicken soup.

When did Americans become so selfish and self centered? People don't like Obamacare and are willing to vote against it. They have that right yet these very people who are against it will be the first in line the minute they lose a job, their home and the savings are gone and they find out just how expensive COBRA really is. They will also be the first in line for food stamps and every kind of government aid they can get.

This isn't about race, religion, politics, it is about caring for your fellow man. When did having a big house, an expensive car, a high paying job become more important than the person standing in front of you in line at the grocery store, or sitting in the office next to you. People care more about personal property than the person living next door to them.

People climb over people climbing the ladder of success or they kick them off the ladder. The same people who you climbed over or kicked off will be the ones catching you or breaking your fall when you fall off.

I stopped going to church because I cannot stand hypocrites attending or in the pulpit. I have a friend who is religious. Someone asked her for a favor and she was going to charge the person yet when she asked that same person for a favor the same person did it unquestioningly. People want to take and take and take. There are some willing to give back to their fellow man because that is what you do while others give back with a list of what they will or will not do.

At the end of the day many people who are against anything that is going to help someone is going to be that someone seeking help and I intend to sit back, look them in the face and say, I told you so. Karma always comes back with a vengeance and if you are lucky, God will let you watch.

MAYS
MAYS 2012-06-30 22:36:19 -0500 Report

But isn't that what politics is all about?

Sow the seed (the lies and misconceptions),
Divide and conquer (until the next election),
Count the votes, then have lunch with the "so called" enemy,
Go away on vacation (some people - the working class - call it work),
Then plan ahead for the next election (repeating the process).

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-30 19:38:56 -0500 Report

A perfect example, and something to consider is the following: A breadwinner with a family including children gets laid off by no fault of their own. Now this person finds they can't get a job. They begin to use all their savings to support themselves and family. Additionally and with no health insurance they become seriously ill and could possibly die without proper health care! The children are now suffering from financial hardship!
What do you think should be done about this.
This is what I believe we should seriously consider here! I hear some people saying tough luck pal!!!
Obviously this is a small and simple analogy, but it makes an important and profound point. These are the very type of circumstances that many of us need to think about before they are the one it happens to!!!
So, yes MHoskins2179, you make a thoughtful and valid point, and I agree.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-01 19:43:15 -0500 Report

Jigsaw, I applaud you and give you a standing ovation. People don't think something bad will happen to them until it happens. With the economy the way it is today, people who have been with companies for 20 years are losing their jobs. If you can't find a job in 6 months you are headed down the road of losing everything.

You are correct people should consider this. When it happens to them and they voted against it, they are going to be the first one in line for every kind of government aid they can get. Oh wait they voted against it. There isn't any aid for them to receive.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-06-30 12:36:56 -0500 Report

I think there is another good point to be made from your comment "it's all about us being healthy and helping out society in whatever way." We need a communal perspective in this country that moves us all towards HEALTH, not just medicating our existing ailments. If we all though in terms of health, prevention and not treatment, I be the first on board the train!

Obviously, we need to do something dramatic to care for thosein the present who have lost this option, but was also have to focus on preventing a repeat of the current ill health and sickness the nation is experiencing or there will be no one healthy enough to keep on paying for care.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-01 19:45:56 -0500 Report

Carol you can't be healthy if you can't get medication or food. The government is spending big bucks to advertise the Food Stamp program because there are a lot of people out there who need the aid who are not applying.

davidea08
davidea08 2012-06-29 21:11:38 -0500 Report

For those of you that are seeking perfection in a president I suggest you write in God on your ballots. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. The proof is that Obama has done more for this country than any other president accept maybe FDR! 4 years and he did more that Bush. I do not repeat DO NOT want a republican president Just like most Americans I feel that what right does the government have to tell me what I should and should not do with my own life? But it is a law that is inevitable and so you minds well find a way to embrace it. The world needs laws or it would be caious. Why does no one complain about car insurance? It is mandated to have, and if you do not have car insurance you do not drive a car. With that being said at least with the Obamacare those of us, includes everyone reading this becaue we are all diabetic, is meant for us. It is there to help us. If you have insurance did you have it before you became diabetic, do you pay a higher premium? Was this through your company? Group insurance is different than indiviual. Group insurance can go up if there are multiple people that have chronic illnesses. Everyone is placed in a bowl and then you are polled to determine what your premiums will be and your deductibles. With individual you will pay a higher premium and deductible and can be turned down or dropped if you have a pre-existing condition. Obamacare eliminates this. I actually just finished a class in college on insurance and how it works. With the medicaid having to changed it's rules it will allow people to get on medicaid who were not originally allowed. I am technically homeless because right now I live in a nursing home, but when I leave here I have no where to go. I should be able to get medicaid because I have a life threatening illness yet I am denied every time I apply. Under Obamacare I WILL get insurance. If you have insurance now you should be thankful but what happens when your diabetes worsens and you get some other illness to go along with it. Like Rinoapathy, neurapathy, chronic pain, anemia, and a list of other things.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-07-01 19:53:16 -0500 Report

Davidea, look up Money Follows the Person and see if it is in your state. This is a Federal program that allows people in nursing homes to leave and live on their own if they are able. You will be evaluated by a social worker under the commission on aging. If you are able to live on your own, you will get in-home care, help with finding a home all done with federal funding. I worked with that program in my state doing the outreach part. We trained people who were in nursing homes and managed to get out and are living on their own. They went to nursing homes to talk to residents about leaving. If they were interested, we entered the data into a database and they were seen. We had to see over 3000 people and we met our goal. Some had a home to go to, some didn't want to leave others did. About 1,000 people were able to get out of a nursing home and live on their own. The Federal government wants people out of nursing homes who are able to leave. Space is limited and it is cheaper to maintain a person in their own home than in a nursing home. If you can, you may need a lawyer to help you get disability. Good luck to you.

catsissie
catsissie 2012-06-30 17:31:53 -0500 Report

May I steal your first line for my Facebook page? I'm on everybody's bad side that I'm friends with, including family—insured, of course—because I'm really pro-ACA. I do have good insurance now, but it wasn't always so. I could say all this on FB but why should I? And isn't there something Jesus said about our brothers and sisters and looking out for them…whatsoever ye do unto the least of these…? Anyway, I love what you said. I also have SSI, I'm separated from a man with good insurance who decided not to follow through with a divorce because of my medical stuff. But that doesn't preclude his changing his mind again. And I've been through SSI before. They get strange, but they will do the right thing. A friend of mine, my bff, says the word to remember is "hardship". Also, if you're in a nursing home, is there a social worker who can help? I also emailed my Congressional Representative. That, for me, did some good. Being next door to turning 65 didn't hurt either…lol! Good luck, my friend, prayers comin' to you!

davidea08
davidea08 2012-06-29 21:14:12 -0500 Report

(adding) I have all of those things wrong with me. I just developed them over the last year. I cannot get a job so I will be on the Grace of God when I leave this nursing home. But I will not be able to afford any of the medications that I take because like I said I have no job and according to SSI and SSD I am not disabled. I am dependant on getting the Obamacare health insurance. Unfortunately it does not take affect until 2014 and by then I could be dead with all of the complications I have.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-30 06:06:01 -0500 Report

These are all very valid points. Obviously, even if we do our best to take care of ourselves, our health can still fail. We should definitely consider this point as well as putting ourselves in the other guys shoes. Anybody could end up not being able to afford or get insurance!
What would the majority of us do or want if we were the one that suddenly was dieing and couldn't afford good health care, and had to use up all our financial resources to exist ?

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-29 19:04:10 -0500 Report

Many here have critisized and pointed out what is wrong with Obama Care! Does anybody have any good solutions. I'm tired of hearing whats wrong. Obviously the health care system as it stands is a disaster. So, what idea or ideas are floating around out there. That's what I would like to hear. What do you think would improve the health system now!

JSJB
JSJB 2012-06-30 06:34:50 -0500 Report

Lets start with improving the health care system and not taxing Americans who can not afford to pay for health insurance. Stop giving it away. I worked all my life and paid for my health insurance for me and my family. I realize that hospitals can not or will not turn people away who are sick and without insurance so maybe that is a place to start.

MAYS
MAYS 2012-06-30 09:00:38 -0500 Report

I am not for socialistic programs, not by a long shot, but we must admit that we have major problems in this country ranging from one extreme to the other.
Non of which is the result of, or the fault of one individual, it has taken years, if not decades for most of the problems that we have here in this country to have taken root.

No one individual can be blamed, no one individual can pull us out of this, it will take a collective effort, with many trials and tribulations, sacrifices and failed programs to (try to) do so.

Our documents of national structure (constitution) and civil liberties (bill of rights) have proven to be both a blessing, as well as a curse at times.
If we continue to allow politicians to be unaccountable for their actions as our representatives in the government, as well as allowing government 101 to be taken out of the curriculum of our elementary school system how else will our children know about the structure and workings of the government?
(There is a reason for this as we are now beginning to see nationwide!)

There is a lot that has to be done to try to fix things, unfortunately many people are becoming victims of the system, rather than being given a chance to free themselves from the system.
Making someone dependant on you for their basic needs in order to survive is never a good thing, this has been proven time after time in the history of this world, no nation, or empire is exempt from this…(time will tell).

~Mays~

hughsbayou
hughsbayou 2012-07-04 15:21:05 -0500 Report

IF having a strong education system for ALL of the people, a strong health care delivery system for ALL of the people, a just and fair court system etc then I'm a socialist. These things are necessary but not sufficient to have a strong and growing country. However, in actual socialist countries the much of the means of production are owned jointly and we don't have that here by any stretch of the imagination. Some things that serve ALL the people need to be owned and operated jointly, like water, electricity, roads etc. We used to have almost all public utilities many of which are now privatized and costs have soared where this has happened. Very few people remember what things were like before the big Republican takeover during the Reagan years. It's a disaster but if you don't remember you have nothing to compare it to. Yes, some people have become very rich. At the expense of the rest of us. In places that used to have Blue Cross/Blue Shield which was quasi government non-profit insurance, when it privatized their expenses did to, meanwhile the big execs all became millionaires overnight. A major major ripoff.

MAYS
MAYS 2012-06-29 19:39:16 -0500 Report

I don't think that there will ever be a clean, clear cut solution to any of our problems as long as there is political and religious interference and input.
They both have their place in life, they just keep overstepping their boundaries.
No matter how vigorously you shake oil and water in a cruet, it won't stay mixed!

Besides, although we are American, we are constantly taught new ways to keep from thinking of both ourselves and our neighbors as such, we find many ways to divide ourselves religiously, racially, politically, socially, financially, the list goes on!

~Mays~

catsissie
catsissie 2012-06-30 20:24:34 -0500 Report

Somebody found a use for the hyphen and it caught on. And the other problem is this: while I can't blame us for wanting to be patriotic, but we need to acknowledge that it doesn't make us less so if we can say that another country has a good idea. And after all, other citizens feel as patriotic about their homelands as we do. So why are we so resistant to the idea that maybe the rest of the world may have a good idea and we could share in it? It's not anti-American to bring something new to the table and make it ours. It isn't helping to cut off our noses to spite our faces. It has been said that we have nothing to fear but fear itself, and that's what's going on. But anyone on this or any other Connect board who has a chronic condition is past fear and dealing with it.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-30 05:45:38 -0500 Report

That's why there will always be room for improvement! We can keep fighting and trying to right the wrongs. No matter how long it takes, and how slow the pace, we can't give up. Historically speaking, many things in life (religiously, racially, politically etc.) have improved. Of course there will always be room for improvement. That's what makes life stimulating, motivating, interesting and a total learning experience. Should a state of utopia ever be reached, we would probably find the entire concept to be flawed. I suspect there would be no real challenges left to live for.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-06-29 19:09:25 -0500 Report
jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-30 05:56:46 -0500 Report

You bring up some interesting points! They sound fine in theory, but I'm not sure if they would work in actual practice.
I am still learning about Obama Care, and since most of what I know about it is political media hype, I haven't formed a final decision yet. I certainly haven't read the 2000 page plan that is being put into effect.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-06-30 19:46:25 -0500 Report

Thanks catsissie! Looks like I have a bit of worthwhile reading to do. I hope many here will do the same.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-06-30 09:41:54 -0500 Report

Healthcare is in a sorry state and has been for a long time. I don't think government should be or is qualified to reform it. I think if we left it up to the market and industry, it would reform itself and learn to operate effficiently.