NY moving beyond soft drinks! See what is next

red flower lady
By red flower lady Latest Reply 2012-06-16 22:49:50 -0500
Started 2012-06-13 16:16:35 -0500

NYC snack police lead attack against large popcorns, lattes
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Already PO'd about the upcoming soft-drink size regulations in NYC? Mayor Mike Bloomberg's health police are now considering limiting the size of movie popcorn buckets and such milk-based drinks as lattes. Sure, 1,200 calories and more than 60 grams of fat in that ginormous popcorn tub may be over the top, but even if we're forced to buy smaller sizes, who's going to prevent us from going back for seconds (other than our inner cheapskate)? "There are certainly milkshakes and milk-coffee beverages that have monstrous amounts of calories," insisted one member at a New York City Board of Health meeting Tuesday. We just think messing with New Yorkers' caffeine intake could be dangerous — and when did milk become unhealthy?

I wonder where they plan to stop or what comes after this?

29 replies

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2012-06-16 21:11:49 -0500 Report

Hi! I live in NYC and have also been watching this with interest. A lot of different sides to the issue. But I also wonder how much impact this would actually have. Hard to see how this could make much of a difference.

pixsidust 2012-06-15 08:33:20 -0500 Report

I think his point isn't so much the drinks size but that the health problems that result from the uninsured (myself being one of them) falling on the shoulders of the tax payers.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-16 21:17:22 -0500 Report

It isn't just the uninsured, people that have insurance cause health care to go up as well. Insured people have alot of health issues that can be avoided if they would just listen to the drs and make changes, only then can we get the price of health care under some kind of control, hopefully. Besides, not being insured isn't a choice you wanted.

Nick1962 2012-06-14 18:56:19 -0500 Report

In light of all the discussion here this past week, i did an unscientific poll. I asked a bunch of people (ages 18-55) if they cared what size their movie popcorn was. Know what? They didn't. Seems they only buy the huge tub so they can share. A lot of them also admitted they didn't care how big the soda was either. One did, but she admitted her habit was basically an aural one and constantly needed to be putting something in her mouth.
Maybe it's demographics - I live in a business oriented city - but when i talked about/e-mailed it to friends and co-workers, no one seemed to really care what size the container is. Sure i got a few reactions like "I don't want the government…", but when asked if a restaurant or movie theater made it their policy to sell only certain sizes, the had no problem with it.
i got a few added coments as well from the above 40 group. Most avoid restaurants like Olive Garden because of the huge portions of pasta they serve. Again, might just be my demographic, but if this does become a trend, I don't think there wil be much fuss after about a week. Most will just go on and live life.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-14 20:54:26 -0500 Report

I think your on to something as I have asked friends this as well. If it isn't available on the menue then no big deal will order what is. The big deal is having the government say "NO". I don't think places will stop serving the larger sizes without being told they have to though. But, can you imagine the response a place might get if they do, people who don't want the tempation or don't want to tell the kids no would probably love it.

Nick1962 2012-06-15 08:52:55 -0500 Report

Well, I did sit down and look at my food habits (as well as those of others I know). Even pre-D, when we sat down to a movie with popcorn, yes we made a "tub", but often didn't finish it, and never went back for more. We did limit our kid's soda consumption because she would often drink it all before her meal and wouldn't have room for the food when it came at a restaurant.
I do have a buddy in construction who, each morning, fills his 52 ounce bubba mug with diet mountain dew, but this lasts him all day and he fills it with ice first, so he's probably only getting 25-30 ounces of soda at best. Plus, by the end of the day it's so watered down he tosses it out. However, the guy is very fit and puts in a 10 hour physical day also.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-15 18:11:32 -0500 Report

If every one eating and drinking the larger sizes and junk was in fit condition, meaning good weight then there probably woundn't be this issue. It is the insane number of overweight people that is the problem. I read an article at a drs office about how companies are having to spend money to reinforce chairs, booths, trams, etc because the weight is just too much! My friend at an airline company said that they have even had to bump flyers when there are a certain number of larger flyers so as to keep the over all weight within the limits of the plane, this is why they charge for two seats, to make up for it, the inconveinence to them and the bumped, not just so the person can fit proberly in the seat.

I'm old enough to compare the weight differences from the past and now. Too many modern gadgets to make us sit still and grab the fast:(

Nick1962 2012-06-15 19:31:33 -0500 Report

So very true! I have to remind myself that i shouldn't spend too much time here either. One of our rewards for getting is shape and losing weight was a helicopter tour of the smokies. It was a tourist type thing and we got bumped 5 times before we could go up because of all the obese tourists. I'm so ashamed of myself i let myself get in that shape.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-15 20:52:36 -0500 Report

But, you did get in shape and that is what matters! There are so many who are content to stay the way they are because change is work and they aren't willing to put the effort in. I don't mind making some allowances, but it can get to me at times. I feel like I shouldn't be the one inconvienced for another's choices.

Nick1962 2012-06-15 20:56:50 -0500 Report

Well, yeah, but it took me darn near 50 years to see the light. Not to mention the burden i put on the health insurance system. I guess everything in it's time.

old biker
old biker 2012-06-14 09:49:54 -0500 Report

I am like the song said. I am New York City born and raised..New yorkers are very resourcefull they will find a way to get around this too..But first they have to get this passed..I agree with Irish this is the mayor blowing smoke up in the air. I left NYC 35 years ago and never looked back

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-14 17:10:01 -0500 Report

Right, but then what he does tries to spill over to other states. I'm guessing he'll some how get it done since the smoking and cooking oil ban went through. I can only imagine all the tools that will pop up, like reusable carring cases for 6 - 8 16 oz drinks, along with all the gimick sales of buy one get one free or half off etc. to beat him at his own game.

Irish1951 2012-06-13 21:16:28 -0500 Report

I truly believe this has little to do with the Mayor's concern over the health of his citizens. This has kept his name in the news for the last three or four weeks. How much would it have cost him to buy that much publicity? The rest of the bureaucrats and "do gooders" are simply jumping at the opportunity to save us from ourselves.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-13 21:39:29 -0500 Report

Interesting point of view, and correct on getting the exposure for free. I wouldn't even be surprised to see him on paid talk shows.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-06-13 17:03:01 -0500 Report

This will stop when his head explodes. I also wonder when milk became unhealthy. I think it was when they added the caramel and sugar for the lattes.

The key is taking your own snacks to the movies in your purse. I have done that to avoid paying a lot of money for a candy bar. If you reduce the size of a bucket of popcorn all people will do is buy two buckets.

Limit the size of lattes, there will probably be an underground door for larger sizes at Starbucks.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-13 17:18:29 -0500 Report

Have to be careful when taking food in as some theaters have policies that don't allow it and can ask you to either throw it away or leave without refund. Yes, I have taken snacks into the movies for a couple reasons. I need something that works with my diabetes and they don't always have what we like, depends on the theater. It is said that prices are so high due to people not buying their items?

We do buy the big tub of popcorn, but then we are a family of 6!!! Even though you can usually get a free refill I have never refilled it. But the point is we should be able to make the decision on our purchases and accept the responsibility.

You are absolutely right that Starbucks or local coffee house will probably jump on the wagon and offer deals to get the buisness.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-06-13 17:31:03 -0500 Report

When I use to go to the movies, I would take the candy they sold. There was a movie theater here that had a candy buffet bar and sold a variety of candy by the 1/4-1/2-3/4 and 1lb bags you mix and match. It was expensive and I never saw anyone buying it. We now have an upscale movie theater that serves cocktails and appetizers. I have not been to that one.

I totally agree we should be able to buy what we want in the size we want but we also have to take the responsibility for that purchase and the consumption.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-06-13 17:44:45 -0500 Report

Hey, maybe we could jog down to the coffee shop! Ok, just kidding, haha. I'm curious as to what the upscale theater sells? I would have to give in and check it out or most likely, my 29 yr old daughter would have beat me to it as she is very up to the minute on new things.

I was just thinking, we both know about moderation, etc… but you know how it goes when we are told we can't have something, we then go after it with even more gusto! I have visions of hands overloaded with all the things trying to be banned recently, does that count as weight lifting?