By Laura500 Latest Reply 2012-08-06 13:21:29 -0500
Started 2012-05-14 11:35:09 -0500

Does anyone indulge in a glass of wine now and again and if you do do you have any issues with your BG?

50 replies

Jccandals 2012-08-06 05:18:44 -0500 Report

I cannot drink it! I generally like the fruity drinks, like the Pina Colada, but everytime I indulge in one drink for a special treat, then my blood sugars get real high and then I plummet real fast! Not worth how bad I feel afterwards so I mainly skip the fun :(

cindygal1 2012-05-21 14:58:29 -0500 Report

I drink a small glass of wine at dinner because it helps control my good cholestrol when it drops to low. The doctor has told me to do that.

Laura500 2012-05-25 17:24:49 -0500 Report

well i foolishly tried having a martini without eating many carbs for my dinner about a week ago…tested to see what was going on and whoops! 59! It took me an hour of eating a snack every 15 min to bring it up to a safer level. Guess vodka and i must part ways for good!

dietcherry 2012-05-18 01:31:18 -0500 Report

I drink wine and light beer and thoroughly enjoy it. I tow the line enough with this disease and alcohol is one of my very few indulgences. I do have to be sure to eat some carbs when drinking as I can bottom out fast !!

Type1Lou 2012-05-17 17:51:01 -0500 Report

Until the past two years, I would frequently have a glass of dry red or white wine with dinner and had no problems. Then, I started experiencing some really scary lows and my husband felt that the wine might be a part of the problem. I'm not entirely convinced of that, but to keep the peace, I've given up my dinner wine and only drink some now on a very special occasion. I also stay away from any hard liquor, but never really much liked that, so it isn't hard to give up.

jigsaw 2012-05-16 15:30:15 -0500 Report

Unless it is a very sweet wine, I have no issues at all. A 4 ounce glass of most wines have no neg effects on me.

MoeGig 2012-05-15 19:36:52 -0500 Report

No, I really enjoy a couple glasses of wine with dinner every evening. Now, I do have experience with hard liquor drinks that can drop your BG…but not wine (as long as it's not a sweet/sugary desert wine.)

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-05-15 17:18:50 -0500 Report

I don't like wine or beer, but love the fruity drinks. I only have one on my birthday though, so not to deal with the high and lows that will result from drinking them.

Somoca 2012-05-15 16:33:38 -0500 Report

I am one of the weird diabetics, I can't drink because my BS goes too low, too quick. I become incoherent. I do miss a bourbon straight-no ice, but that's just the way it is.

Anonymous 2012-05-15 16:21:03 -0500 Report

Man do I miss my occasional glass of wine. But when I was diagnosed over a 1.5 decades ago and put on to medication(s) I was told that all forms of alcohol (& it does) makes your b/s (@ least mine) sky rocket. So, I haven't touched it in years. If you think about it, wine is made from grapes (which has natural sugars) and the alcohol that is fermented from the grapes is sugar which = no good for the diabetic. Any form of alcohol. Vodka (made from potatoes), beer (made from hops, barley, & wheat). This is just an example of 3 different forms of alcoholic beverages. But I'll let you guys make the judgement call. The decision is up to each & everyone of you. *To drink or not to drink. The choice is up to each & every one of you. *(sounds like something you'd hear @ an AA meeting.)

kdroberts 2012-05-15 22:11:29 -0500 Report

I think you have it backwards, fermentation converts sugar into alcohol therefore there is no sugar in alcohol. Also, most beer has no wheat in it and vodka is not often made from potatoes anymore.

There will be residual sugars in wine and beer but the amount will vary dramatically but as long as you don't mix things like vodka or whisky with something else, there will be 0 carb in it. Most people find that vodka and whisky can lower blood sugar quite dramatically, wine can in a not quite so dramatic way and beer can kind of do it. Mostly due to the alcohol tying up the liver and reducing the amount of glucose it releases into your blood stream, kind of similar to how metformin works.

Nick1962 2012-05-15 18:54:22 -0500 Report

Must politely disagree on wine and vodka. You may have been passed some bad information. Residual sugars in wine (those not consumed and turned to alcohol in the fermentation process or added back in as flavor) are measured in g/l or grams per liter or roughly grams per quart for us here in the US. This measurement is what determines the “dryness” of a wine. A dry wine CAN contain UP TO 4g/l, a medium dry up to 12 g/l, a medium up to 45g/l and a sweet is more than 45, meaning that even a sweet wine has only about 8 grams of sugar per 6 oz. serving. Less than the sugars in one half tablespoon of honey.
Yes, if you have trouble managing your sugar intake, wine is pretty much out. But for someone like me who consumes very (and I mean very) little in the form of sugar, then it can be allowed. We do need some sugars in our diets.
As for hard liquor, any distilled product (gin, rum, vodka, whiskey) over 80 proof has 0 sugar because it’s destroyed in the distillation process.
Alcohol, as with anything, which can include food nowadays, should be looked at per individual especially with medications, and obviously, in moderation.

2012-05-17 03:30:32 -0500 Report

I'm not going to argue w/u Nick. I'm just not that big of an alcholic drinker. I can even give you the exact date of my last alcholic drink. If I drink @ all it's no more than 1 drink a year. (Most of the meds that I'm on say "do not drink any form of alcholic beverages.) So I figured that 1 drink every 365 (66) days won't kill me.

Nick1962 2012-05-17 08:27:25 -0500 Report

Oh I agree with you annalease, there are folks like yourself for which alcohol in general just holds no charm. I know as I’ve aged my consumption has been cut dramatically, and since being diagnosed even more still. The last time I had a whole bottle of beer was vacation last December, and that was only because I didn’t know if the local water was safe. And I’m certainly not advocating that anyone take it up just because it’s fashionable.
The reason I still like wine is because, like good food, there is some complexity and art to making it, and it is a fun hobby to study. That said, one glass is for trying to find the certain flavors, oak notes, honey, tannins, savory, etc. A second glass (maybe) its body, finish, and so on, but that’s about my limit.

2012-05-17 10:37:12 -0500 Report

I know that (believe it or not) I'd rather have a Coke Zero unsweetened iced tea, or even a cold glass of H20 before going for a glass of wine. (or any type of alcoholic beverage.) But I will say this, when I was in college & on the weekends I did enjoy either a beer or a glass of a very dry red. Wasn't (& probably still aren't) a "lover" of white or rose' (blush) don't know the correct "wine terminology" But college was over 20 years ago, my diagnosis was 17yrs ago. But w/my meds & all, I just don't want to take any chances. Now don't get me wrong when I'm eating a really good plate of vegan spaghetti (I make it w/spaghetti squash) than that's the only time a glass of a dry red would taste really good.

Nick1962 2012-05-17 11:54:29 -0500 Report

Ahh college – probably the years most responsible for battering my liver and pancreas.
I was never a sweets person, so anything like Coke, or a mixer I just didn’t like (still don’t to this day) so I definitely understand how certain tastes and dislikes are formed. Even being in the south now I just can’t get into sweet tea (but I like a good strong unsweetened). I found though that people’s first reactions to beer, wine, or alcohol in general, form their perception to them. I know a lot of people don’t like wine (like I didn’t) simply because their first exposure was a bad wine. I’ve given it a second chance (now that I’m not limited to college priced wine), and again, it’s just become a fascinating hobby. I look at food the same way - there is a huge difference between spaghetti squash grown in the south vs. the north.

Meds are certainly things not to be messed with. I know for the short time I was on Met. along with cholesterol and BP meds, I was told to even avoid sunlight. Avoiding alcohol was kind of a given.

2012-05-18 22:19:22 -0500 Report

I have an aunt & 2 cousins (aunt & cousins are mother daughters) all 3 of them absolutely love wine that is so sickingly sweet, it might as well go back 2 being grape juice. In other words it might as well be fermented grapr juice. It's too disgusting to even drink. It's even much to sweet to be a dessert wine. If I could stop being a "tea totaler" then I would definitely be back to drinking a good dry red. In fact it's 8:15pm (pst) and I could go for a glass. But because of the damn meds & this illness no wine for this old wineo. I'm going 4 Italian food 2morrow nite maybe 1 glass won't kill me, but it will do something to my b/g #s tho. I'll think about it & let you know. Howz that sound?

Jake Levinthal
Jake Levinthal 2012-05-15 14:27:25 -0500 Report

I think as long as you monitor your health, then I think drinking a glass a day if you wanted is not even that bad. I heard from a doctor on healthtap ( that you can drink twice a day.

John Lassider
John Lassider 2012-05-15 17:30:15 -0500 Report

Yeah I think the distinction is important because even people that do not have diabetes, women tend to be able to handle less than men due to genetics.
But on the fact of drinking; I think drinking once in a while is not bad. Though I personally think daily is a bit much.

Caroltoo 2012-05-15 14:58:50 -0500 Report

They make a distinction between men and women w/r/t what is considered healthy: one drink/day for a woman and two drinks/day for men.

dubyadd 2012-05-15 16:23:57 -0500 Report

I go for the wine coolers. Club soda with red, rose or white, and lemon or lime or even a cherry, pineapple or olives. You can drink these all night long if you keep the wine to club soda ration to 25% wine,75% soda. And if you like beer, try the Select 55 by Budweiser, it very low in carbs and low in alcohol too. There are a few others that are like this but I think the Select 55 is the best tasting. Stay away from the NON alcoholic beers and the heavy dark brews as they have many more carbs.

flipmom 2012-05-14 22:46:01 -0500 Report

me me!! I enjoy my favorite Reunite Lambrusco once in a while… Its cheap wine but I really love the taste so dont judge me! LOL! besides its only 3 g of carbs per glass, just dont drink without food or your bg level might get really low..

jigsaw 2012-05-15 16:28:38 -0500 Report

I have a 4 ounce glass of wine with dinner about 2 or 3 times a week! After all, I have a wine collection and someone got to drink it. Might as well be me! Doesn't really affect my bg and the anti-oxidents are probably healthy. As a matter of fact, I must admit to slipping in a second glass on occasion.

Nick1962 2012-05-14 18:59:11 -0500 Report

We belong to a wine club, and can sometimes go through a bottle between the two of us in one meal. No problem unless it's something like a wine that's been blended with fruit juice (which we, becoming wine snobs avoid anyway). As Irish points out, it seems to slightly lower my numbers/carb uptake. Reds slightly more than whites.

Laura500 2012-05-15 12:49:36 -0500 Report

i had wine at the rehearsal dinner and then at the wedding i just attended, and although my readings that night were fine my morning fasting was a bit elevated (130-something). I tried it again this past weekend and each morning 130 something and then 142! So I have decided the dang glass of wine isn't much worth it at this point, if that was what contributed to the high morning reading. I'll back off and wait til my meds are hopefully lowered in the future and I lose more weight :) I think I had a "I just want to be my old self" moment. It's funny the first glass of wine I tried to have I knocked over and broke the glass (a sign?)

Nick1962 2012-05-15 13:39:22 -0500 Report

I don't think it was the wine. It would have been long out of your system by then and wine doesn't contain the sugar most think it does. The sugars are consumed to make the alcohol. I was test crazy when diagnosed and tested this with food, without food, red vs white, wine types, and on and on… I think what you're seeing is dawn effect or "liver dump" in the morning.
For the sake of your own peace of mind, maybe try a meal with wine and test every half hour for two hours, then the same meal without. Or just test wine itself some weekend evening about 3 hours after dinner. I'd be curious to know if you have some reaction.
Anyway, here's a thread from a while back on alcohol
But just as an edit to that thread, tequila and rum are not high sugar

Nick1962 2012-05-15 13:54:43 -0500 Report

Yeah, try it and see what happens. There is so much we give up, I can't begrudge someone a comfort, especially if it doesn't really have a negative effect and used in moderation.

flipmom 2012-05-14 22:47:57 -0500 Report

whats good wine out there that taste sweet and whats your favorite so far?

Nick1962 2012-05-15 08:14:50 -0500 Report

That depends on what you mean by “sweet”. If you mean sweet, but still drinkable with a meal, Gewurztraminers are popular now. Less sweet I would recommend a Viognier, and I always like a fruity, crisp Harvest Select Riesling or Niagra. I’ve been real impressed with what is coming out of Washington State, and specifically Chateau Ste. Michelle winery’s Columbia Valley line.
If you mean sweet like a dessert wine you’d drink alone, a late harvest Viognier is good, or even an Osborne Tawny Port (but careful, it’s a “fortified” wine – alcohol added). Tastes like the juice of figs and golden raisins with a touch of honey.
What I like? I’ve never been a fan of reds, but have recently fallen for a Petit Verdot. Hard to get because it’s usually used as a “blend” for other red wines to round them out.

Nick1962 2012-05-15 20:13:00 -0500 Report

LOL! Funny…never saw beer as an aquired taste because I love it. Unfortunately, it has becoame one of the sacrifices I've had to make to the D god. I've had no more than 6 in the past 18 months. Life's hard decisons when diabetic - a girl scouts thin mint or a Sprecher Double Bock. Nice thing is I'm lazy, so I usually just say the heck with both.

flipmom 2012-05-16 13:32:51 -0500 Report

I really just drink on occasion.. now that I read some post, maybe I should drink more!! LOL

Irish1951 2012-05-14 13:34:22 -0500 Report

I will have a glass of wine with dinner if I am having more carbs than usual. I generally try to keep my meals at around 30 carbs but will sometimes go up to 60 carbs. It seems to keep by B/S levels even or slightly lower. I will also have a beer with pizza or fish and chips. Again it seems to keep my levels from going up high. I rarely hit more than 150 or higher 2 hrs. after eating. Alcohol can lower B/S and even cause a low reading. I am a T2 on metformim 2x's a day and have never had a low B/S reading. It is tricky for D's and it reacts differently for all of us.

Jccandals 2012-08-06 05:27:21 -0500 Report

I think my problem is that it's fruity drinks that I consume, those have alot of sugars in them, and I also am a T2 on metformin, I changed from 2x daily to two tabs at night, but I have to be careful of my blood sugars running low in the morning.

Nick1962 2012-05-16 15:26:04 -0500 Report

That's pretty much what i do. We have our "big meals" on the weekend, so we go through a bottle. You're right it does take the edge off my carbs a bit.

Nana_anna 2012-05-14 12:29:03 -0500 Report

I don't like wines or alchohol. It makes me sick. I don't use it. I used to drink some wine though, long time ago. Its just not my thing.

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