Newest thing NOT to eat!!

By granniesophie Latest Reply 2012-05-10 22:09:12 -0500
Started 2012-04-29 11:48:38 -0500

In the wake of the latest egg idiocy, I just read an article in the Arizona Republic "Health" section of Friday about brown rice and the lethal amounts of arsenic it contains and how no one should ever eat it!
Now, mind you, this is an Arizona paper, and perhaps we shouldn't get me started again about anything Arizona (yeah, I do live here!), but I wondered what you all may have heard and what your opinions are?!

40 replies

MoeGig 2012-05-05 13:27:12 -0500 Report

I just do not understand diabetics that try to eat rice…or bread, or whole wheat this or that or sugar free candies. When I became a diabetic 47 years ago, I just decided that certain foods are the enemy. This disease is unique because you have 95% control of the outcome of your health. All other diseases that I can think of, your lucky to have 1% control…cancer, etc, you're at god's mercy…little or nothing you can do to change the outcome.

Young1s 2012-04-30 19:48:58 -0500 Report

Thanks for the heads up. I never heard this. I started out mixing white rice with brown to get my family used to the idea of the full switch. They adjusted well. Luckily, we only have it about twice a week so I will probably proceed as usual. But this is definitely something to think about, seeing as I'm looking for ways to cut out all rice and pastas from our diets.

Hopester 2012-05-09 12:13:28 -0500 Report

I'm on the same search! I love rice and eat it occasionally, but with major guilt, guilt, guild. Waaa. I think it's the sugar in rice that appeals to me…that and the butter and salt I want to add. I grew up a starch junkie (hence T-2) and am so wanting to break the habit!

jayabee52 2012-05-09 14:02:29 -0500 Report

have you tried Quinoa (pronounded "KEEN-wah") instead of rice? It has the mouth feel of rice and it takes on whatever flavor the broth in which it is cooked. It is much lower in carbs than rice and is a decent source of protein.

I use it instead of rice and I actually like it better than rice!

Young1s 2012-05-09 13:56:09 -0500 Report

Wow, you just reminded me of something. Before my parents separated, my mom told me that she used to have to put sugar in my father's rice and mac n cheese. It was the way his mother maid it when he was growing up and that was the only way he would eat it. As a result, adding sugar to foods became the norm for my mom's cooking, even years after being separated. It wasn't until I was in high school, and started cooking for myself, that I learned the true flavors of most dishes. It's amazing how I forgot all about that. All my D puzzle pieces are coming together little by little.

JSJB 2012-04-30 15:59:09 -0500 Report

I really don't eat much rice brown or white and when I do it is not an amount to worry about. It nice to know these facts.

Hopester 2012-05-09 12:14:30 -0500 Report

That's why we all love this "home" place! We get so many good ideas and support. It IS nice to know these facts, for sure.

Tripp3 2012-04-30 11:03:06 -0500 Report

Years ago, I had an endocrinologist who was pushing everyone to eat brown rice, as a healthy option. Now, as a collector of autoimmune diseases, I have Celiac, so the gluten free world is a necessity, not a fad option. I end up eating a lot of rice products, by necessity. Is the arsenic a natural component of the brown rice husks? We have digestion to handle all sorts of messes in foods, and I just wonder about the levels we are worrying about. A varied diet is healthy.

jigsaw 2012-04-30 11:22:25 -0500 Report

I agree, food variety is a major player! Inject some common sense, doesn't hurt to utilize a good dietician/nutritionist to help taylor to your specific needs. Then go out and enjoy life!

Caroltoo 2012-04-29 19:29:19 -0500 Report

I just googled the question I raised with Nick about white, basmati, jasmine, wild, mahahony, black rice and their relationship to brown rice which I was thinking was rice that still had more hull in place. Sounds like it may be a question of pollutants in U.S. ground water lodging in the outer layer of the rice bran.

Here is what I found in another news report that deals with some of this.

People should be choosy about the kinds of rice they eat, though, and make sure it's not the only grain in their diet.

Rice grown in the United States, for example, has been shown to have higher arsenic levels than jasmine or basmati rice grown in Thailand or India.

Studies have found that brown rice contains higher levels of arsenic than white rice, because arsenic concentrates in the outer layer of rice bran.

"What really worries me is that the gluten-free movement is using a lot of rice, specifically brown rice," Punshon says. Brown rice turns up in a lot of products like cereal, rice syrup, baking mixes, and crackers.

"If you replace all the grains in your diet with brown rice, you're putting yourself in a very unique exposure window," for arsenic, she says. Other experts agree that a balanced approach is key.

"We don't want to scare people off rice," Punshon says. "It's still a healthy food."

Hopester 2012-05-09 12:20:42 -0500 Report

It's still healthy for WHO? I had no idea of arsenic in rice. Thanks for this info. If you R a blogger, it might be good to post this info somewhere it'll get more exposure. I also agree with LA Trader… moderation is good. And read labels.

LA Trader
LA Trader 2012-05-03 15:40:01 -0500 Report

This is a great sensible answer. We can scare ourselves out of eating anything and wind up going through the fast food drive through because it's all bad for us. We know that isn't true. Everything in moderation goes for healthy choices also.

Nick1962 2012-04-29 18:42:42 -0500 Report

Wow, news to me. Guess I'm clear - not a fan of brown rice.

Caroltoo 2012-04-29 19:13:20 -0500 Report

Nick: I always thought of brown rice as white rice with more hull left on. Is it a strain of it's own? Wondering if this effects others: white, jasmine, wild, mahagony, black, etc.?

Nick1962 2012-04-30 07:42:17 -0500 Report

I really haven't tested rices. I just don't consume enough to need to know the differences. I'd imagine the darker varieties would be better on BS.

jigsaw 2012-04-30 07:55:44 -0500 Report

I'm playing it safe!!! From now on my diet consists of distilled water and that's it!!! (—:

jigsaw 2012-04-30 08:37:28 -0500 Report

Then I'm not drinking water any more either!!! No water, and no food=no contaminants! Actually, and seriously, I drink distilled water and bottled water and various other liquids so I think I'll be leaving the planet due to other causes besides lack of minerals and electrolytes. IMHO Mercola is an extremist. I find some of his articles interesting, but there are others I prefer to pay attention to!

Nick1962 2012-04-30 08:53:02 -0500 Report

Oh lets not forget the contaminants you're absorbing from the atmosphere, and the constant bombardment of gamma rays! Living on earth seems to be a fragile daily battle no matter what we do.
Yeah, I use Mercola as kind of a canary. I use what he puts out as a test to study other information. If what he says is supported by others, I tend to heed the advice, if not, well.

jigsaw 2012-04-30 09:04:47 -0500 Report

Someday you'll have to stop over and visit me in my massive giant bubble! Have no fear, it has filtered air also! I moved in after I grew my 4th eye, 3rd arm and I peed a different color of the rainbow every day!!! Now watch what happens, after all this a terrorist will probably come along and blow us all up!

Nick1962 2012-04-30 10:06:36 -0500 Report

It's not a latex bubble is it? I have latex issues. At this rate the terrorists will only have to come over with needles and pop our bubbles!

Caroltoo 2012-04-29 18:03:08 -0500 Report

The article that James found states that arsenic has been found in brown rice syrup used to sweeten toddler formula, candy bars, etc. Suggests we avoid all products sweetened with brown rice syrup and notes that brown rice syrup is now used to replace high fructose corn syrup, so that means we have a lot of places to look for it.

Also indicates pregnant women are very susceptible to this form of toxicity which is harmful to the fetus.

Another factoid is that brown rice is able to absorb arsenic from the environment and ground water in much the same way that apples can.

Type1Lou 2012-04-29 14:16:44 -0500 Report

I avoid all kinds of rice because it really spikes my blood sugar. This is interesting though and thanks for sharing!

jayabee52 2012-04-29 14:19:56 -0500 Report

I don't eat rice either. I don't particularly care for it.

Type1Lou 2012-04-29 14:54:56 -0500 Report

I used to love rice pudding (probably still do.) It was one of those comfort foods that Mom always made when we were sick.

jayabee52 2012-04-29 15:00:54 -0500 Report

now I DO like rice pudding too. I just don't like plain white rice as it seems so bland to me. I had to load it up with jam just to eat it when mom served it. Fortunately she didn't serve rice a lot when I was a kid.

I have studeously avoided rice ever since, except when I went on a sushi roll kick a few years back.

Type1Lou 2012-04-30 11:58:10 -0500 Report

Now, I DO love sushi, which totally grosses out my husband. I rarely eat it though…last time was on a trip to Hawaii and it was yummy! I'm lucky that I'm not crazy about rice or potatoes so it's easy to avoid them. Resisting bread is an ever-ongoing struggle. I used to make killer homemade cinnamon rolls but don't any more…too hard to resist.

jayabee52 2012-04-29 13:29:03 -0500 Report

That is news to me.

EDIT: I checked it out and aparrently this is true here is a news story from an ABC TV station from Feb 15. See it here ~

EDIT: Try it now Gabby! I found the article again and edited the updated link. (I hate it when something like that happens)

GabbyPA 2012-05-10 07:42:02 -0500 Report

Oh, the link says page not found. Do you have another? I would like to read up on this. I don't eat brown's just gross to me. But it is always good to know these things. Like if you have to eat 5 pounds of it a day to have any effect on you.

jayabee52 2012-05-10 08:39:48 -0500 Report

When I found the link again I tried to post it again (3 times) and couldn't get it to work. so I will post the story here in text form:
while I still have it abvailable)

"Brown rice — and anything made with brown rice syrup —could be a source of potentially toxic arsenic, according to research by scientists at Dartmouth College.

The research, which was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) shows that rice may be a greater source of arsenic. It is common in groundwater, but now, the threat has extended to rice, as it is able to take the arsenic from its environment into the rice plant.

The research team found that dangerous amounts of arsenic were in organic powdered toddler formula whose top ingredient was brown rice syrup, ABC reported. The formula contained six times more arsenic than the Environmental Protection Agency considers safe for the water supply, they reported.

Dartmouth environmental chemist Brian Jackson and his colleagues also reported elevated arsenic levels in some brown rice-sweetened cereal bars, energy bars and energy "shots"consumed by endurance athletes, according to a study published today in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, ABC reported.The results do not identify any products by name, they added.

Dartmouth said in its research that though arsenic is found naturally in the environment, elevated concentrations can be harmful to humans. The World Health Organization set guideline limits for Arsenic levels in drinking water (currently 10 micrograms per liter).

“Arsenic exposure during pregnancy is a public health concern due to potential health risks to the fetus,” Margaret Karagas, professor of community and family medicine at Dartmouth Medical School and senior author of the paper, told the Dartmouth Now, a publication at the school.

Karagas is director of the Children’s Environmental Health and Disease Prevention Center at Dartmouth.

She said that outside research has related arsenic at very high levels to infant mortality, reduced birth weight, slowed immune function, and increased mortality from lung cancer later in life.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says that Americans, on average, eat half a cup of rice every day. The numbers, however, are different based on ethnic groups—Asian Americans consume an average of two cups a day.

“The study presented in the PNAS paper is based upon a sample of 229 pregnant New Hampshire women whose urine was tested for arsenic concentration,” says Diane Gilbert-Diamond, a postdoctoral fellow and co-lead author on the paper, according to Dartmouth Now. The women were divided into two groups based on if they ate rice two days before urine collection.

After testing the tap water in their homes for arsenic, the women were tested. Urinary arsenic concentrations for the 73 study subjects who ate rice showed an average of 5.27 micrograms per liter, while the median for the 156 non-rice eaters showed 3.38 micrograms per liter, the Dartmouth study said. "

Brown rice may contain toxic arsenic levels, study shows
By Natasha Barrett February 16, 2012 - 11:22 am

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