TO EGG OR NOT TO EGG: THAT IS THE QUESTION

Caroltoo
By Caroltoo Latest Reply 2012-05-21 14:50:16 -0500
Started 2012-04-27 14:07:20 -0500

i love eggs and eat them regularly. Because of my family's long history of good health and regular usage of age, I did not take the "egg scares" of the last 20 years seriously and continued to enjoy 1-2 almost every morning. Recently, I read that eggs had been "redeemed" in the views of the nutritionist's of the world and were no longer reputed to cause cholesterol and heart conditions. Great!

Then I read the following information — this is actually the third source I've seen in three weeks — and am wondering what to do now.

Since most of the nutritional value of an egg is in the yolk and the whites are basically tasteless, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the concept or reason for an egg white omelet as suggested here. Guess egg beaters would be the best option for me. I have no one to eat the yolks, if I separate eggs, and I just don't want to throw them out — too wasteful.

After reading these next comments that I lifted from LifeScript this morning, what are your thoughts on (1) healthiness of eggs for diabetics and (2) ways to get the good egg flavor without the risks?

LifeScript.com reports:
Do you eat an egg a day? If you have diabetes, your breakfast habit may double your risk of a heart attack. A study of more than 17,000 men and women found that eating up to one egg a day did not increase patients' risk for a heart attack or stroke unless they had diabetes, reports the American Diabetes Association (ADA).

For diabetics, eating one egg a day doubled the risk for a heart attack in men and raised the risk of heart attack in women by 50%.

So does this mean you have to give up your favorite scrambled egg or omelet recipe forever? Certainly not. Use egg whites instead of the high-cholesterol yolks.

Egg Beaters and other egg substitutes give you the taste of eggs without the yolks. But if you don't want to buy extra groceries you can separate the eggs yourself. The ADA says it's OK to have one yolk every now and then, so you can mix one yolk with two or three egg whites to give you the taste and volume without all the high cholesterol. Add your favorite fresh herbs (cilantro, rosemary) and a few vegetables (mushrooms, tomatoes, asparagus), and you'll have a gourmet breakfast that's healthy for you too.


134 replies

JSJB
JSJB 2012-05-04 03:48:49 -0500 Report

After reading all the replies to this discussion I think I will have breakfast. Guess what I will make???:)

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-05-06 16:52:14 -0500 Report

LOL..scrambled or an omlet?

JSJB
JSJB 2012-05-07 03:19:50 -0500 Report

I like omlets on Lo card wheat bread with Lite mayo and sometimes 2 strips of bacon. Wasn't going to have one this morning but you made me hungry. I'll skip tomorrow and just eat toast with lo salt butter and cinnamon.

korbe
korbe 2012-05-06 18:34:38 -0500 Report

Did I read right,,,,are you a Chef??

JSJB
JSJB 2012-05-07 03:22:23 -0500 Report

If you weren't a chef prior to this condition you are one now learning to cook meals just right for you. I know because I cooked things that I never would have cooked before and I'm getting pretty good at it.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-05-07 15:09:17 -0500 Report

Thanks, JSJB. I like to live well, so I keep on learning what I need to learn to live successfully!

korbe
korbe 2012-05-06 18:33:43 -0500 Report

Do you pickle your eggs?? Ive done gal. jars,and let them stand for three weeks. Great stuff!!

Pharmacist George
Pharmacist George 2012-05-04 00:46:55 -0500 Report

Hello Caroltoo,

Well it is true that egg yolks have cholesterol but they also contain Vitamin A, D, E and K and they also are a great source of at least 4 unsaturated fatty acid of which a couple are designated as essential meaning that they are necessary for life. Moreover, both the American Diabetes Association and the American Heart Association recommend having up to 10% of your total daily calories from saturated fats and 7% if you have heart disease.

Which means that you can eat and enjoy whole eggs without guilt. However, moderation in the choices we make is key to our wellbeing and consequently having about 4 large egg yolks per week seems to be a balanced and safe choice. Although egg whites are pure Albumin which means protein in plain English but who wants to eat egg whites all the time. So you can skip the expensive tasteless Egg Beaters and enjoy your whole eggs anyway you like them.

Here’s how I like to make my scrambled eggs: Heat a dry non stick pan for a couple of minutes while beating a couple of whole eggs with about a tablespoon of low fat milk. Then I would put about a teaspoon of Extra Virgin Olive Oil in the pan and spread it all over the pan with a napkin. Then pour the egg mixture into the pan, season to taste (go easy on the salt) and scramble it. Turn off the heat when it’s just about to solidify to keep your eggs moist. Then get a half whole grain pita pocket pour the egg mixture inside then cut up fresh tomato wedges and green onions then include them in the pita pocket. Season to taste and sprinkle a pinch of dried basil and voila enjoy it. Take care.

JSJB
JSJB 2012-05-04 03:41:43 -0500 Report

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I like like the way you make them. I will try the pita pockets but wheat. I micro mine then use low carb wheat bread with lo mayo. I use to have one every morning but my last dr visit he said my cholesterol was a little high so I eat a egg sandwich about every 3rd day. Will give your way a try over the weekend.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-05-04 01:22:56 -0500 Report

Thanks, George, for chiming in here. The yolks, in my opinion, have the nutrients and the flavor, especially a nice iron rich one that has been raised in the free range. Glad to hear there is support for continuing to eat them. Honestly, I don't think I would have decided to stop, but it's great to not be concerned about the decision.

My favorite breakfast egg dish is more of a frittata. I use a cast iron or ceramic wok which I coat with EVOO as you do. Then I add a 1/4 cup each of cauliflower, julienned baby carrots, Maui sweet onions, & mung bean sprouts, and finally a cup of spinach. Lightly season with salt, pepper, basil, and oregano and stir fry briefly. Form a nest of the vegetables and steam 1-2 eggs in the nest.

JSJB
JSJB 2012-05-04 04:08:16 -0500 Report

DITTO for me. Why stop enjoying what you have been eating and enjoying all you life just because of studies that are ifffy.

John
John 2012-05-03 06:38:13 -0500 Report

I don't fear fat, and I eat at least two eggs every day. I almost always buy free-range. Sometimes I get them straight from a farm.

http://www.preventdisease.com/news/12/030112_...

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-05-03 11:50:48 -0500 Report

I use more fat than most here acknowledge using also … do try to stay away from the saturated fats and use mostly MUFAs. Free-range is great. I wish there was a chicken ranch nearby. That is a childhood memory for me … every Saturday afternoon at Mr. Teague's cendling room picking up our week's eggs.

Jprphtt
Jprphtt 2012-05-03 03:38:00 -0500 Report

My numberd have been amazing and i eat 3 eggs every morning…sonetimes i have a dozen in a day…the thing is im working out and using the energy from the eggs in a productive way that aids the overall healthiness of my body. I wouldnt recommend eating 2 eggs a day and failing to utilize their potential. That seems to be a bad move whether its an egg or whatever

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-05-03 04:22:43 -0500 Report

The issue here relates to cholesterol levels as a function of the number and frequency of eggs consumed. Your BGs would show improvement when you eat eggs because of the effect of the protein in the eggs and your level of physical activity on your blood glucose. I can't tell from your statement whether you are speaking of your cholesterol numbers being amazing or your blood glucose readings.

niomi nightfall
niomi nightfall 2012-04-30 23:28:49 -0500 Report

I eat eggs for breakfast 2 times a week. I used to eat them even more when I was growing up. And I have 4 chickens so I get like 3-4 eggs a day. That's why I eat so many eggs. I will still eat them!!! YUMMY!!!

dietcherry
dietcherry 2012-04-30 15:50:33 -0500 Report

I love eggs and have them ATLEAST twice a week and have for years with no problems whatsoever. I also use them because they are recommended for my blood type. I do believe however that they ARE problematic for some folks.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-04-29 21:33:08 -0500 Report

I just pickled some eggs with beets and onions. I love the pretty purple they turn in the beet juice. Nothing nicer on a hot day than some pickled beets and eggs in a salad.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 22:05:02 -0500 Report

The pickled flavoring is refreshing, isn't it?

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-05-01 16:25:16 -0500 Report

I could eat pickled anything I think. I love it. I also made my first pickles from cucumbers in the garden on Sunday. It was canning day. We did a lot!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-05-01 17:19:11 -0500 Report

Just planted my cucumber plants this morning, along with zucchini, yellow crooked neck, simling (patty pot), eggplant, and a hanging planter of 9 strawberry plants.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-05-02 14:13:19 -0500 Report

We are following the farmer's almanac and planting days start on Friday through the weekend. So I guess I will be out there. Today was weeding day, so the beds have been cleaned up for the new stuff. I am going to try quinoia and maybe some chia to see how that goes. I got my first tomatoes showing now on my Brandywine and Marglobe plants. Can't wait!!

Jeanae
Jeanae 2012-04-29 18:58:05 -0500 Report

My Mom ate 2 eggs every morning for her entire life. She died at 110 yrs of age. I love eggs but only eat egg white frittatas or omelets. I was worried about my cholesterol. My husband eats omelets but his has 3 egg whites and 1 whole egg. His cholesterol numbers are great so… I will continue to eat egg whites (I don't like the taste of yolks) and he will continue to eat his eggs and we will be happy. Thos studies always get me unhinged. If I read and believed every one of them I wouldn't eat any food, drink any liquid or breathe in natural air.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 19:06:47 -0500 Report

Yes, studies can be so confusing and misleading. Just proceed with care and moderation and see what happens.

My family history is much like yours. Dad lived to 86 and Mom to 90. Both ate 2 eggs every morning all their lives.

Dad was sharp as a tack at the time of his death from congestive heart failure as a result of smoking two packs of unfiltered Camels daily until I was about 10 years of age (he was 50 when I was born, so he had 60 years to abuse his body; don't know when he started smoking, but he was orphaned and on his own at 13, joined the marines by misrepresenting his age a few years later which could be when he started.) Mom had been sick for a couple years, but not with cholesterol related issuse. I don't see eggs as an issue there.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-29 18:38:15 -0500 Report

I have also read quite a few pros and cons about eggs. My conclusion, who knows! I ate two eggs for breakfast almost everyday for ten years. My total cholesterol is currently 135 and during that ten year period it was never above 160. According to Dr. Atkins, if you eat a low carb diet, your cholesterol and triglycerides will drop. It worked for me and eggs did not cause my cholesterol levels to go to high. I suspect if one manages their bg levels tightly with a HEALTHY low carb diet and exercise, it will have positive benefits on cholesterol in many cases. I continue to eat eggs, but not everyday.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-29 21:23:00 -0500 Report

A combination of with and without. My cholesterol ran about 160 without any statin, and around 130 to 135 with 20 mg of Atorvastatin.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 22:28:16 -0500 Report

Yes, mine got down to 124 when I used Lipitor. One of my wholistic docs shuddered at that and told me to allow myself some butter on my toast because that was to low to be healthy. Mine went up to around 180 when I stopped the statins. I'm ok with it.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-30 06:18:44 -0500 Report

Most holistic and naturapathic doctors in my experience feel similar, about cholesterol #s. I have no doubt that they would agree that in general cholesterol in the 130 range is to low. But that is in general, and my specific circumstances entail other matters. I have gone over this difference of opinions concerning cholesterol #s with my current doctors, and they agree that my #s are good. Total cholesterol #s do not show all the pertinent details. I am ok with my #s also.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 19:00:53 -0500 Report

Thanks for the perspective of several years worth of follow-up. Sounds like your cholesterol level is really good. Is this all diet and exercise, or are there some statins in there too?

MississippiHippy
MississippiHippy 2012-04-29 11:19:11 -0500 Report

Mmmm…just had egg salad and boiled a few eggstra for the rest of the week!!! ;)

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 11:49:08 -0500 Report

Sounds yummy. Have you ever seasoned your egg salad with curry? Makes it different and very good … nice change once in a while.

MississippiHippy
MississippiHippy 2012-04-29 11:57:03 -0500 Report

No, but sounds great and deffo will try it now thank you. Loveeeee Thai food!!!

MississippiHippy
MississippiHippy 2012-04-29 17:00:38 -0500 Report

I've never tried Indian food but really want to..sadly in a small town and no Indian restaurants. :( Not been on vacation since 2005 when I became caregiver to my Daddy (diabetic too), but will try and find some if we ever go out of town. :)

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 22:31:34 -0500 Report

Check out some Indian curry recipes online. To my non-asian palette, they are very similar to Thai. I'm sure any Indian or Thai folk reading that comment will cringe because there are subtle differences in flavor and ingredients. I used to make and apple/chicken curry and top it with coconut, chutney, raisins, chopped boiled egg, etc.

MississippiHippy
MississippiHippy 2012-04-30 00:48:50 -0500 Report

Mmmm sounds good and yes I will have to do that, but I like being in the cultural setting too…maybe I can bellydance as I cook!!! lol ;)

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-30 00:58:10 -0500 Report

Here in Hawaii, there is a restaurant that has bellydancing as Fri-Sun night entertainment along with the evening meal. Looks like it would be excellent exercise, but it doesn't seem to make bellys disappear. Seems to develop the underlying muscle and make them even more pronounced.

locarbarbie
locarbarbie 2012-04-29 09:52:50 -0500 Report

The study showed that diabetics have an increased rate of heart attack because of eating an egg per day as opposed to the rest of "normal" society? Well duh!!!, diabetics have an increased rate of heart attack anyway, egg or not! I am sure there is other criteria that possibly has not been taken into account…what is the rest of their diet like, etc. etc.?
I would not worry about eating eggs, I believe that God knows better than whoever manufactures egg beaters.

suziesgirl
suziesgirl 2012-05-21 14:50:16 -0500 Report

Eat the eggs girl, they are loaded with great protein. As with everything else in life, too much is toooo much.
Sandra

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 11:18:02 -0500 Report

Egg beaters nenver appealed to me; that's really why I raised the question. I want my eggs. Yes, it probably does relate to our already increased risk of CAD which is yet another reason to clean up our diet. Truly, I've never been convinced the CAD issue is about cholesterol since our bodies also manufacture it. I think the bigger question is what makes the goo adhear to the walls of the veins and arteries.

Now, I'm off for my scrambled eggs for breakfast as it is only 6:15 in the morning her.

Armourer
Armourer 2012-04-28 21:16:57 -0500 Report

I'm eating three hard boiled eggs right now for diner. I eat 2-3 eggs every other day. They are a main source of protien for me! Nurse, diabetic educator, my doc, all said eat away. So I am.

Gambling
Gambling 2012-04-28 16:12:42 -0500 Report

I usually eat just egg white omelets 4-5 times a week , once a week I eat a real egg on a fiber 1 english muffin with cheese, other days it cereal .
It not going to stop me now !

DavinaRN
DavinaRN 2012-04-28 14:22:08 -0500 Report

I eat Southwestern egg beaters with fat free cheesewhen I have time to cook in am. The only time I eat real eggs are when hubby makes them. He can always mix it good enough that I see no white areas. Yes, I know egg beaters are egg whites but I see no white. Yep, it's a mental issue but can't seem to make myself eat eggs if it looks white.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-28 14:23:56 -0500 Report

we all have our food phobias. Mine is cucumbers. Can't stand the smell.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-04-29 00:28:24 -0500 Report

I love them in anything, but especially with cut up onions and cut tomatoes in wine vinegar after it has set for a couple of hours.Can also sit in italian dressing.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-04-28 21:31:14 -0500 Report

It's cilantro for me!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 00:37:46 -0500 Report

I marinade thinly sliced cucumbers in champagne vinegar. Yummy and good for your gallbladder…discovered that when I was treating stones about 8 mos ago.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 00:48:14 -0500 Report

Funny, but until I had to eat them when I was treated Gall stones, I didn't like them. They always made me burp. Now the don't. I don't understand, but I like it. Yes, they are very cooling on a hot day. I sometimes just eat a dish of them for lunch.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-04-29 00:54:28 -0500 Report

My mother is from the south, so cucumbers, tomatoes, and onions, etc. were a staple along with corn bread, which I hate. She always had a vegetable garden, I guess that's why I love veggies so much.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-29 01:04:50 -0500 Report

Mine too: one of my mother's sisters was Grand Dame of the Virginia DAR (many years ago, of course).