By OELKE Latest Reply 2012-05-03 22:51:17 -0500
Started 2012-04-24 22:29:59 -0500

My Dr. informed me that I was diabetiic in January after a blood test. He prescribed a couple of pills which i took until they ran out in about a month. In the mail I received an advertisement about the book. I ordered the book and started to read it. Taking a class about diabetes the nurse asked me if I needed more pills. She reported to the Dr. I wasn't taking any medication. He called me in and we discussed what I was doing. We had another blood test on Monday April 9th, 2012 and a visit with the Dr. the following Monday April 16, 2012. My numbers fell so dramatically that he said he was very impressed. Guess WHAT? He has my book and is reading it now.

Yes, I have read the book. It is very interesting. My wife has lost ten pounds since we have been eating healthy. We Praise The Lord as diabetes has become a benefit to us.

My book offer had a 30 day FREE trial and three paments of $19.00 or $50.74 to Bantam Books. The book is big and heavy: however $30.00 shipping is kind of priciey. On the other hand you can avoid taking drugs and they never cure anything just cover the symptons. Considering, it maybe cheap.

If you have any questions inbox me.

Gaylord Oelke

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jayabee52 2012-04-25 00:38:57 -0500 Report

Howdy Gaylord WELCOME to DiabeticConnect.

I believe you can do as well by following a very low carbohydrate and high protein meal plan without the book.

The word "cure" in the title is misleading IMHO as when questioned about eating things not on the meal plan the proponents of this plan ask why would one want to go back to eating the way they were before? But they are not speaking of a cure as one would think of it (the thing is fixed never to return), but instead it is managed or controlled and if one does not follow the meal plan eventually the Diabetes Mellitus (DM) returns.

I follow a low carb high protein meal plan and I have written it out for folks to follow if they so choose, and they can do it without cost. You can view it here ~ Look at it and let me know what you think.

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Blessings to you and yours

James Baker

maarrocha 2012-04-26 09:12:30 -0500 Report

Hi James Baker
I am new to this discussion group. Actuallly I started yesterday, but I could already notice that you are totally contrary to Dr. Stefan Ripich book. I do not agree with you when you talk about Dr. RIP's book. For more you tried to be concise in the guidelines suggested above, it's not possible to compare a book that has more than 300 pages witn yours just one page. I guess that the book has all kinds of information about foods and exercices, based in the review I found on Besides, you are not a doctor. He is a ND and CNP with large experience. I have some interviews with him. Have you read his book ? I am sorry to say this but If I were you I would embarrassed for writing such critical works. Anyway what represents US$ 50 to buy a book that will help you improve your healthy.
Besides the book you receive free DVD with couch videos. Then why not to make a try to reduce hemoglobine A1C an bloode glucose ?
For those that cannot afford to buy the book your site is fine. And that is why I congratulate you.
Best wishes,
Pedro Moreira
Rio de Janeiro Brazil

jayabee52 2012-04-27 03:18:32 -0500 Report

Not totally against Dr RIP's book Pedro.

What I objected to is the high cost of the book PLUS the exorbitant cost of shipping. I was just offering a less expensive way of doing essentially the same thing. I give my plan away so no one will be put off by the cost. You could say "You get what you pay for" well in this case that truism is untrue, IMO.

I am guessing from your statements to me that you have not read my 2 page work. 1: and 2: because in #1 I tell in the foreward just what the effects of my experement turned out in my Blood Glucose (BG) levels, my HbA1c results, and my weight.

I also tell in #2 one HOW to determine what one's unique metabolism does with certain foods/drinks. Does Dr RIP tell you how to do that? I honestly cannot tell from the reviews I have read so far.

I believe that I need not be embarassed to be trying to save other People With Diabetes (PWDs) some money. $85.00 us doesn't buy as much as it did before, but I believe it is best left in the pockets of PWDs, if alternate resources like mine are available. Most of us PWDs are not wealthy (our diabetes and the economic conditions have seen to that in most cases) so every way to save is a good thing IMO.

Thanks for your congratulations. However this site is not mine. It belongs to Alliance Health based in Salt Lake City area, Utah USA. I have no relationship with them other than being a long time member here who has been employed in the health care field a long time but who only holds a measly masters degree.

Thanks for your thoughts Pedro

James Baker

maarrocha 2012-04-27 06:34:20 -0500 Report

Helllo James Baker,
I agree with you as to the exorbitant cost of shipping, but not the price of the book itself. Dr. Rip is proud to announce that all of his patients are off atnti diabets medicines after completing the 30 day diet. Isn't this amazing ? Have you stopped to figure out how much savings this represent ? Not to mention to get free of diabetes, since people continue to follow a prudent and healthy diet.
I believe you have not read Dr. RIP book too. Certainly a book that has more than 300 pages I guess he shows "HOW to determine what one's unique metabolism does with certain foods/drink"
To have this discussion come to a happy end I think both of you are doing a terrific work helping people to improve their health. For those that can afford to buy the book OK. They can have both: yours and his. For those with low cash flow, only your 2 pages work. I am waiting the portuguese translation to buy one unit of Dr. RIP. Meanwhile I will be following the guidelines of your work.
Have a nice weekend.
Best regards
Pedro Moreira
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

jayabee52 2012-04-27 07:03:07 -0500 Report

Why thank you Pedro!

I don't think his type 1 patients are completely free of their insulin, so he cannot declare that ALL of his patients are off diabetes meds. To suggest that T1s give up their insulin entirely would be irresponsible. In the review link you were so kind to send me there was the claim that one T1 was able to reduce his insulin 90%. The reviewer, also a T1, said he was unable to reduce his insulin that much. He didn't say now much.

I never claimed to have read Dr RIP's book. I came to my little experemental eating plan by learning much about diabetes on this site and putting what I learned into practice.

BTW on a more personal note: my 2nd wife "Jem" was Portrugese on both father's and mother's sides. Jem's maiden name was Govia. Her mother's maiden name was Sousa. She lived in California near San Francisco. I heard her grand father came from Hawaii. She introduced me to a few Portugese foods like Linguisa and Portugese sweetbread. She was a really fantastic lady but unfortunately she had a lot of "medical challenges" and died in our home unexpectedly in July 2010. I miss her greatly.

maarrocha 2012-04-27 10:23:20 -0500 Report

Hi James Baker,
I want to clarify you just one thing: when I said 'Dr. Rip is proud to announce that all of his patients are off anti diabetes medicines after completing the 30 day diet". Actually I wanted to mean DIABETES TYPE 2 (T2). That's what he claims. He never stated that he can cure all types of diabetes. This was my fault. I apologise both you and Dr. RIP, for having forgotten this important detail. He declared too that has got incredible health improvements on people with T1.
You confirmed that you have not yet read Dr. RIP's. So do I. I have no way to compare both beneficial works. But I will buy the book for sure. I hope the benefit/cost will be great.
Now, I would like to have your comment about my pre-diabetes problem. I am almost 64 years, retired, 83 Kg (~183 pouds), 1,67 m, I do 5 miles daily walks and for long time I quit sodas, fast carbs, trans fat and so on. I am used to diets because I was obese since a little kid. A year ago, my A1C was 5% and fasting BG 90.This year (last week) A1C lowered to 4.8% and fasting BG jumped to 136. My doctor gave me a warning and decided not to prescribe me any medicines, but sent me to do a glucose tolerance test next month, where they test the fasting BG. After ingesting a glucose substance, I will wait 2 hours for new BG test.
I am happy for my good A1C test result. It's equivalent a 91 BG and represents how much glucose my red globules loaded in the last 2 or 3 months. I know that the instant BG test can change a lot during the day, but after no food twelve hours is something. Have you had any experience like this big contrast between A1C and BG ?
To avoid the BG getting higher I quit 100% natural fruit juice (during summer in Rio de Janeiro is impossible to avoid it. I drunk a lot of it) and alcoohol. I used to drink moderate 1 or 2 glasses of wine or 3 beers or 1 or 2 drinks of scotch whisky. I don't want that my A1C get high in the future.
Pedro Moreira
Rio de Janeiro Brazil

jayabee52 2012-04-27 10:48:07 -0500 Report

I personally have not had a problem with a low A1c and a moderately elevated BG. But my late wife Jem seemed to. Only she had a low A1c and a very high Blood Glucose reading. Since one of her medical challenges was being totally blind (not diabetes related) I had to do her BG testing and reading the results, so I knew very well what her BGs were doing. She would have BGs in excess of 300 because she had to take steroids from time to time to manage other medical challenges with which she was afflicted. Those steroids jacked up her BG levels and we had to work hard to bring her down closer to normal.

Yet during that same time period she achieved an A1c of 6. When I asked her endo about the seeming disconnect between her good A1c and her high daily BG readings he reminded me that an A1c is an average of all the BG levels (tested or untested) over a 90 day period. That being the case, he said, she must have had some mighty low hypos to make that average out that low.

Getting off the fruit juice is a very good idea. Alcohol for the Person with diabetes is generally not a good idea, so generally avoiding alcohol is also recommended. I drink only water 99% of the time due to my kidney problems.

jayabee52 2012-04-29 14:40:57 -0500 Report

What is your GFR ratio, sam?

I suppose one could "get away with it" for a while but it woulld be much better if a person would not tempt fate and play on the edge of the cliff. Once your nephrons are gone it is pretty much over except for dialysis. Not fun at all. So I would recommend conserving what GFR you can and avoid anything stronger than water. I know it is boring! (from my present experience)

I personally will not drink beer any more, but I am on the edge of stage 5 (end stage renal disease) and ALMOST needing hemodialysis. That is why I only drink water 99% of the time.

Have I sent you some resources on CKD? A general resource on stages 1 through 4 of CKD with diabetes, and also some meal ideas for a CKD with diabetes. If not, send me an inbox and I will return this information to you.

maarrocha 2012-04-27 18:41:04 -0500 Report

Thank you very much for your kind answer. As soon as I make my glucose tolerance test I will let you know. I hope the BG will be lower because of those food and fruit juices that I quit. Last time I met my doc I was 93,5 Kg (~206 pounds). Today I weighted 83,0 kg (~183 pounds). I am not obese ANYMORE according to the formula weight/height x height.

maarrocha 2012-05-03 19:56:20 -0500 Report

Hello James,
Today I became curious about my BG level and check out how my low carb diet is doing. I am supposed to do a glucose tolerance test this month. As I don't have yeat a BG meter, I went to an emergency hospital of my healtt care plan, I arrived there 3 PM about 1 hour after having lunch (chicken with vegetables, no potato at all). The BG level dropped from 136 mg/dL (12 hours fasting) to 108.
For sure, my dient plan is working: no wine, no beer, no whisky, no white flour, no sodas (with its HFCS), no crackers, no donuts, no burgers, no honey, no candies, no cakes, no processsed food etc etc
For your experiience, what do you think about this new level figure ?
I will continue the diet for 15 days more and doing my 5 miles daily walking. I hope to achieve the figure possible. Then is maintain a heathy food on the table.

maarrocha 2012-05-03 21:20:43 -0500 Report

Red meat, chicken, ffish (raised at large eating grass), eggs, whole grain bread, vegetables, fruits, dark chocolat, nuts, cashews, raisin, almonds, dairy products: cheese, milk, yogurt etc, stevia to replace sweet from sugar cane or HFCS (Hiper Fructose Corn Syrup). That's what I remember now.

maarrocha 2012-05-03 21:23:07 -0500 Report

A correction: I eat fish that are al large at ocean and rivers. Not those raised confined. I eat red meat and chicken from those raise at fields fed with grass.

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