Crazy Diabetes

lifedriver
By lifedriver Latest Reply 2012-10-04 14:35:09 -0500
Started 2012-04-15 19:06:58 -0500

Well, been a while since I last posted anything and I hope you all will welcome me back. Over the last few months I have been dealing with crazy swings in my walk with Diabetes and pondering the result or where they are going with my life. I have went from 4 insulin shots a day to the a pill (Glipozide)in these few months. My A1C is 6.2 and I feel better than I have beenn in a long while…
The Doctor told me my near death experience with Diabetes stemmed from stress???? I was hospitalized in Jan 09 with blood sugar levels above 1000 for a week. It came on so sudden and stopped me in my tracts. Now they have a name for it Flatbush Diabetes. Has anyone else experienced this? I was told I can get completely off all meds soon if I continue my present progress. Wow, is all I can say but I still stay on top of my Carb Counting and testing. As I always say before leaving…LIVE


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Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2012-04-22 11:07:11 -0500 Report

This last week I experienced how stress can make your BG go up. I applied for a job after being a stay at home mom for 35 yrs. I had a series of test that I had to take to get this job. I tested my BG before the last test and it was 200. I was really stressing over it because I couldn't miss but 3 questions. You can't reapply for six months and I didn't want to go through all the classes and testing again. I passed and I was so relieved. I tested my BG when I got home and it was 95. Wow, what a difference. Perfect example of how stress does affect BG levels. - By the way, Welcome Back !!! ☺

Young1s
Young1s 2012-04-20 15:02:34 -0500 Report

Welcome back!! Glad to see you. This is great news that you're working towards to getting off the meds. And congrats on the A1c. I'm happy for you. Woww…1000!?! That's scary. Even though it's been 3 years, I bet you still reflect on that in amazement. Thank God you pulled through. Take care my friend and hope to see more of you around site.

pixsidust
pixsidust 2012-04-19 14:30:14 -0500 Report

Welcome Home!
That was a brutal experience
Take it gradual on the meds because "to me"
it seems you are on a lot to get the A1C that you have
And what a good A1C!
Don't be a stranger and thanks for your wisdom
and thank God for your life!

Dennis1963
Dennis1963 2012-04-17 17:10:34 -0500 Report

Wow lifedriver, over 1000? That's crazy I never though that high was possible. When I was diagnosed mine was like 550 and i thought that was high.

But it is really nice to hear you are doing much better and working your way off meds. I have been away for a while myself, just recently back but I still want to welcome you back. :) Keep up the good work bud.

lifedriver
lifedriver 2012-04-17 18:47:24 -0500 Report

Dennis after I came back to my senses I couldn.t belive it either. But it is true over 1000 …I was giving a one in five chance of survival that night …wow… I was seeing all kind of visions not scarey but strange visions with no shapes but moving…dark and formless…I do believe I was standing on the border of life and death…That is why I know God is real after that I continue to try and be a comfort to other no matter what…My grand dauther (Paris) actually hide herself in the emergency room somehow and told me later the conversation the Doctors had concerning my situation. I am presently quitting smoking and that will help also. Perhaps, I can get completely off all meds and control this demon thru diet and excercize. Thanks and …LIVE

Dennis1963
Dennis1963 2012-04-18 16:27:24 -0500 Report

life­driv­er, thanks for sharing this, it is pretty amazing indeed!

But it looks like some good has come out of it. :) Good luck with quitting smoking, I am also in the process of quitting.

May God bless you.

nocshiftgrl
nocshiftgrl 2012-04-17 05:32:04 -0500 Report

I havent heard that name, but i went from 10.2- 6.2 in just over 3 months and both my nutritionist and some nurses i know say it could be "transient diabetes" meaning it comes on fast, with stress and weight gain, then once you get better diet, and lower stress on your body, (i think some stress was dehydration) you can "kick" the disease, but even diet controlled, i will have to always be careful with diet, exercise, hydration, and stress because i will always be predisposed. I will definately research this flatbush. Interesting. Congrats on your A1C.

lifedriver
lifedriver 2012-04-17 10:24:21 -0500 Report

Yes there are so many different types of Diabetes who knows right. When the answer is not there they will make up names for the problem. Sometimes the answer is already known.

robertoj
robertoj 2012-04-17 02:47:47 -0500 Report

I have never heard of that. I usually have good control of my diabetes. ALL my diabetes problems are stress related. Sometimes stress is unavoidable but for me it is short lived.

lifedriver
lifedriver 2012-04-17 10:30:07 -0500 Report

I feel you, each day will bring it own stressers, it is very difficult to control but this is something we must master to stay healthy. Good Luck

MainEvent
MainEvent 2012-04-20 10:14:29 -0500 Report

Stress can be terrible. I was reading something the other day about meditation and how good it is for relieving stress. They said to sit or lay quietly and just focus on your breathing. If you start to think of something else, acknowledge it and then go back to the breathing. You can gradually work up to twice a day and increase the time to 20 min gradually. . I hope this helps all with stress issues. I know I'm gonna try.

robertoj
robertoj 2012-04-17 14:18:54 -0500 Report

I went through much grief over the last couple of years. By allowing myself to feel the pain of loss I was able to avoid denial and anger; acceptance, the main step came quickly but not easily. It did minimize the process so I could get back on track.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-17 15:36:37 -0500 Report

Robert: Allowing yourself to feel the pain, is healing. Too often we try to medicate it out of our lives. Good choice.

MainEvent
MainEvent 2012-04-16 21:02:39 -0500 Report

I have never learned to count ccarbs so maybe you could give us all a refresher. How many carbs are you supposed to have with each meal or each day. ?

lifedriver
lifedriver 2012-04-17 10:27:51 -0500 Report

For me it was 1 unit of fast acting insulin for each 8 grams of carbs, However, your Doctor will give you a starting point or balance. This will also help in your weight loss as well. Good hearing from you…LIVE

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-16 22:11:48 -0500 Report

Usually your doctor will give you a number. Online here, I've heard everything from 30 per meal to 30 per day. Depends on you, your metabolism, whether or not you are using insulin, etc. Don't think there is a one size fits all answer for that.

Personally, I eat a range from 20/meal to 40/day. I don't use insulin, don't use any medications, and tend to eat more carbs when I have the protein in my meal to keep me stable, or less carbs, when there is less protein. It's a balancing act and I don't use the same amount at each meal; others do 30-40/meal.

Has your doctor or diabetic educatior ever given you a number?

MainEvent
MainEvent 2012-04-16 22:20:58 -0500 Report

No…never had a Dr tell me and never had diabetic ed, Guess I'd better get on the ball!!!!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-16 23:07:26 -0500 Report

Yes! :) Seriously, that's good information to have to start with. Has a doctor given you the diagnosis of diabetic or prediabetic? How are you treating it?

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2012-04-16 08:14:20 -0500 Report

welcome back!! Wow sounds like your doing great now. Diabetes is a crazy disease that leads to many unknown paths. I can vouch for stress and diabetes. The last 2 years for me have been stressful. I got a disease called Bell's Palsy from stress…thankfully the steroids cleared that up but gave me massive strep throat infection which lead to tonsils being out. Anyway my point is I too did not know stress could mess with diabetes until then…my sugars were always over 225 during those few months no matter what I did. Maybe find stuff to do that relaxes you…I now know to take care of me first.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-15 21:28:49 -0500 Report

Hello lifediver…It's a new one to me also. I'm glad that you pulled through! Were any other med changes recommended by doctors.
That is one frightening experience.
Suny is a very reputable source for info.

lifedriver
lifedriver 2012-04-16 08:22:09 -0500 Report

Yes, I have done a little more reserch and Flatbush actually stems from a suburb or neighborhood in New York where they first noticed it. Yes to be healthy most of my life then to have had this happen scared and nearly killed me. But I feel that my symtoms are from exposure to chemicals during my military career.

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2012-04-16 10:49:34 -0500 Report

they determined all my dads sickness over the last few years are from agent orange in vietnam…it could very well be right. He went to the VA to find out more. Wouldn't hurt to check into.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-16 10:18:41 -0500 Report

Hopefully you will be able to control it. I grew up on Long Island, about 40 miles from the Flatbush area. Suny, the university and the university hosp are in Stoneybrook, LI, very near my home town. The Suny health institution is really amazing. Their reputation is up their with the best.
They were able to analyze and diagnose a very rare allergy that my daughter had when she was a little girl. She would randomly break out in hives all over. Believe me when I say my wife and I went to many doctors, and all were stumped. The doctors at Suny were doing research on Allergy to the cold. They pretty much pegged it when we described the symptoms. Turned out that she was allergic to the cold. If she sat on a cold bench, or went into a cold pool to swim, she would break out in hives. She did grow out of it fortunately. My point is, they are a highly reputable organization. If need be you could probably turn to them for excellent info.
Best Wishes!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-15 20:30:01 -0500 Report

I have not heard the expression, but according to google, it is a type of diabetes that was identified by SUNY in Flatbush, New York and includes ketoacidosis.

Thankfully, my BGs only made it to 400 that I know of, so no ketoacidosis. It was the rest of the process I was identifying with: less meds, fewer carbs, then no meds, and doing well.

Here's a very brief article, then I'll add a couple other links for you to check. Sure glad you are feeling better now.

Flatbush Diabetes
BY AMANDA GARDNER
Monday, November 22, 1999
Doctors used to divide diabetes cases into two neat camps: Types 1 and 2. But the disease is not quite that simple. “Flatbush diabetes,” one of several variations of the disease, was identified in 1994 at SUNY Downstate Medical Center in the East Flatbush section of Brooklyn.

The first symptom of Flatbush diabetes is usually diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) — a potentially fatal buildup in the blood of chemicals known as ketones, which results when the body stops producing insulin and burns an excessive amount of stored fats. (Sometimes the first symptom of Flatbush diabetes is severe hyperglycemia, or high blood sugar.)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_...

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-15 19:22:51 -0500 Report

Glad to see you back. I've missed our chats about beaches, boats, and fishing. Sorry to hear you had such a rough time of it. Yes, stress is a major, major part of our diabetes. From what I've read, it messes up our carbohydrate metabolism something terribly. Wonderful to hear you are now on only one pill and heading for a medication free life. Being careful with your carbohydrates, continuing to exercise, and dealing with your stresses to reduce them to the manageable is definitely the way to go. Keep on this path and LIVE for sure.

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