Cure for Diabetes

ChiBoy
By ChiBoy Latest Reply 2014-11-25 12:17:35 -0600
Started 2012-04-08 14:50:09 -0500

Dear Diabetic Connect,

Just curious, but concerned!!

1. Why is it that America which claims to be the super-power and know-all, can't find a permanent CURE for Diabetes?

2. Is it really true that there is no cure for Diabetes, or are the Pharmaceutical Companies doesn't want to produce the drugs and/or provide the cure to the general public?

3. Are the Government, Hospitals, and the Pharmaceutical Companies happy that people all over the World are dying from this disease?

These above questions are open to everybody, and demands/requires a well detailed answer that we can forward to the federal government and President Obama.

Also, the questions are something you should pause and ponder!!!

Thanks,

Professor & Engineer D. Ugwudiobi.

Tags: diabetes

16 replies

frog1951
frog1951 2014-11-24 21:24:50 -0600 Report

Pharmaceutical Companies along with the Government keep a cure for most diseases at bay to keep the treatments on the market. Doctors can cut it out or medicate but not cure much of anything. The heart - they do a bypass but do not cure. They give vaccination for polio - it makes you body immune to the germ - so I guess that is actually what we are looking for. You give us one shot and our body starts producing insulin the way it should. - will never happen as the Pharmaceutical pay off Senators and Representatives to keep the cure off the market - unless greed is taken out of Washington the Medical Profession will never change. It will always be expensive and no cures - treatments / then you die - they do not care- as a matter of fact - they want a certain amount to die so they can have more.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-11-25 12:17:35 -0600 Report

Howdy Frog
There are always going to be conspiricy theories, and I can be pulled into believing some of them. However, take a look at an answer to the Original Poster which I posted 3 years ago.

God's best to you and yours

James

haoleboy
haoleboy 2014-11-24 22:12:04 -0600 Report

"they do not care- as a matter of fact - they want a certain amount to die so they can have more."
speaking of facts … care to provide one or two that back up your claim.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-04-09 11:55:05 -0500 Report

Why would you use such a public forum of strictly opinion to forward to the White House? They would never read it. This sounds like something that would be more fitting to go to the FDA or something.

You are asking lay persons questions that can really only be answered by the pharmaceutical companies them selves. I have my feelings and opinions on these, but I cannot speak for them and that is what you are asking me to do in these questions.

Now I do agree that they are thought provoking and should give us cause to ponder, but beyond that; I am not so sure.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2012-04-08 21:58:22 -0500 Report

1. Iit doesn't sound like you are familiar with the US and how medical research goes in general. Medical research is very, very expensive and requires funding. Due to massively polarized political and religious beliefs the US has kind of got stuck treading water because the changes in government and policy over the years have meant that the funding the government can give is very limited or against regulations. There have also been a number of laws passed over the last decade about what can and can't be done, especially with stem cells. The laws made it very difficult for private companies to research in the US, so they moved to other countries. Canada, Israel, Sweden, a number of South American countries, India and most of Europe all have had much more flexible laws and allowed people to do much more and have lead to a large number of medical breakthroughs that the research in the US was years away from. Things are changing but the country is so polarized in general, but especially with religion, that I don't see any consistency happening long term which will really hurt any sort of research going on in the US.

2. No one knows what causes diabetes of any type. Really, we don't know much about diabetes in general. Without that it would basically be somebody stumbling across a cure which is like looking for a 1/2 inch needle in a 50,000 square mile haystack. Especially when you consider all the different factors involved with diabetes and the likelihood that there are probably far more different types than we've identified. Once we understand diabetes a cure might be attainable. Every government in the world has a vested interest in finding a cure since it would free up a huge amount of money they are spending on treating diabetes. Every pharmaceutical company has an interest in a cure because it will make them billions of dollars, probably over a trillion.

3. No, but what can you do about it? The two things involved are money and motivation. Without both you will almost certainly fail. A diabetic with motivation but no money will only be able to take care of themselves so much. A government or hospital with all the money in the world will have no success if the patients have no motivation. You have to remember that diabetes alone doesn't kill people, it's not taking care of it that will. And that rests ultimately with the patient, not the government, hospitals, doctors or anyone else.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-04-08 20:44:42 -0500 Report

My responses which are my opinion and not a response for anyone but me.

1. I don't view the U.S. as being a super power. If we were people in this country would not be suffering from homelessness, unemployment and lack of heath care. The U.S. is by no means a know it all country. No one knows it all whatever "it" is.

2. There is no cure for diabetes and it can strike anyone at any time anywhere in the world. Although many people may believe that Pharmaceutical Companies produce medications, they are not the ones to cure the disease or any disease. Researchers are the ones who find the cure. For all anyone may know, it could be a mistake by a scientist in a lab somewhere that will find the cure. Even if a cure is found it could be years before the cure will be available for use by anyone.

3. I am one who believes in some conspiracy theories. First of all Pharmaceutical Companies are in business to make money. As long as there is an illness that can be treated with medication these companies will be in business making money. Why would the owners of these companies want to find a cure. Once a cure is found, the money stops. For all anyone knows, there could very well be a cure but if more money can be made off of treatment of a disease, why cure it? There would be no benefit in it for the Pharmaceutical Companies. If there was a cure for all diseases, thousands of people would be out of work. Millions of dollars are spent on researching cures for diseases. Millions of dollars are spent on maintaining labs and keeping them current as new technology comes on line and millions more on salaries and plants. If a cure were found there would be a trickle down effect starting with research. Then again who is to say a cure hasn't been found and it is tucked away safely in a lab at the CDC.

Just my thoughts on this.

JSJB
JSJB 2012-04-08 19:01:10 -0500 Report

We are a super power and have more knowledge than most countries. It takes time and money to find a cure.

I don't think it is the Pharmaceutical Companies who provide the cure but the research sceintist who are working on a cure and it takes time and money

No one is happy that people are dying all over the world from diseases or medical problems.

They are my opinions

JSJB
JSJB 2012-04-08 18:48:41 -0500 Report

WOW that was a great replie. I do not think there will ever be a cure but there will be improvements which will allow us to live a better life without testing or insulin shots.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-08 17:33:17 -0500 Report

Howdy Professor D. Ugwudiobi WELCOME to DiabeticConnect!

You pose some interesting and very pointed questions. The following answers are my own answers. I speak for no one but myself.

RE: Q #1: “Why is it that America which claims to be the super-power and know-all, can't find a permanent CURE for Diabetes?”

ANSWER: Well even IF we are a super-power and we are most certainly not a “know-all”, and there are limitations to what even super-powers can do. There are many diseases and conditions which nations of the world have been trying to cure for years, and have not been able to do.

One of those diseases is HIV/AIDS. A lot of research has gone on over the years to cure this devastating disease, however the best which can be done is the symptoms can be managed with a cocktail of medications. And that is for a disease for which we know the cause.

In the case of Diabetes Mellitus (DM) we know what goes wrong for each of the types for the most part, but we don't know why it goes wrong. To be able to cure DM one has to know the why of getting DM. Then folks can work on preventing it, and then perhaps work on a solid cure for those of us unfortunate enough to have it.

RE: Q#2: “Is it really true that there is no cure for Diabetes, or are the Pharmaceutical Companies doesn't want to produce the drugs and/or provide the cure to the general public?”

ANSWER #2.1: I believe that there is at this time no cure for DM. Each of us can in most cases manage our DM well, but that depends on the individual Person with Diabetes (PWD) and how severe that PWD's DM happens to be. So for the time being, the only thing that is available to us is a way to control our individual case of DM, using the methods we have at our disposal. There are several folks who manage our DM through our meal planning and exercise. I am one of those folks. I eat a radically altered meal plan (others would use the word “diet”). I avoid the eating of breads and other grain products, and have achieved what might be called “Normal” Blood Glucose (BG) levels. Am I no longer a PWD? Well if I get to thinking that, all I need do is to overeat and my high BG levels will come back! As things stand now I will always be a PWD and will always need to eat in ways which manage or control my DM.

ANSWER 2.2: There is an assumption in the second part of Q2. That assumption is that a cure will come from the Pharmaceutical Companies (what we sometimes call “Big Pharma”) as a medication. Who knows whether a cure will come through a medication or from some other source, like a medical procedure (such as something having to do with stem cells). I could guess that Big Pharma would love to produce and sell us a medication which would cure us. But without polling the principal players of Big Pharma companies, no one could know for sure. Without that poll, anyone could only make their best guess. That's what it would remain, a guess.

There are those who claim that there is a cure already and Big Pharma has bought the rights to it and is now “sitting” on it to keep it from us and keep PWDs paying them for their medications, but I am not one of those who believe that.

There is also the issue of the multi-factoral nature of why one gets DM also. PWDs who are Type 1 (T1) get their DM in several ways, and perhaps would require several different cures to effectvely cure T1. Likewise for PWDs who are Type 2 (T2) That could be caused by a multitude of factors. The cure for my DM caused by insulin resistance may be different for a PWD who got their T2 as a result of something like heart disease (my late wife “Jem” got hers due to her Congestive Heart Failure, according to her Cardiologist).

That does not even touch on the PWD who has type 1.5 (Latent Autoimmune Diabetes of Adults, or LADA) or the PWD who is MODY (Mature Onset Diabetes of Youth) .

RE Q#3: “Are the Government, Hospitals, and the Pharmaceutical Companies happy that people all over the World are dying from this disease?”

ANSWER 3: My first answer would be “NO”, probably not. But it is just a guess on my part

Again, absent a poll of all the major players in each of these organizations the best anyone can do is guess.

You say further that the questions you put to us “and demands/requires a well detailed answer that we can forward to the federal government and President Obama”

Well you have my answer in as much detail as I can muster. Whether you get action on this from the feds or Pres. Obama is really very doubtful, in my opinion. They've got their hands full with many other problems, like trying to stimulate the economy of the USA, and also keeping the insurance mandate in the new healthcare law which is now before the Supreme court of the US. Plus Pres. O is preoccupied with trying to get re-elected to another 4 year term.

BTW, from where are you posting this?

Blessings to you and yours

James Baker.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-04-08 18:07:06 -0500 Report

Thanks James, posts like this tend to get me a bit worked up, so I try to avoid response for a few days. In answer to your last question, within the U.S.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-08 18:09:36 -0500 Report

from little clues in the posting I would have guessed somewhere outside the us.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-08 18:30:11 -0500 Report

Accoring to LinkedIn, he is Prof at TCI college in NY and CEO and founder of Takabis Global Technology.

dietcherry
dietcherry 2012-04-08 15:53:22 -0500 Report

Hello! You also posted this on my profile but thought Id answer here instead :)

1. Like most things in life, it comes down to money, time, knowledge, and awareness. And surely more.

2. My opinion is no cure has been made yet despite everything I mentioned above being thrown at it by medical scientists and all the others involved in research for cures. There are plenty of endless theories about your question.

3. Happiness is a strong word to use to suggest these entities dont want a cure for D, or any disease for that matter. Commerce is a driving force of our society and decisons are made everyday to profit from the misfortune of others. On the up side, we have excellent medical care and meds to manage disease and prolong life, and an even larger percentage of effort can be spurred by the individual to accomplish these goals, i.e., diet, exercise, healthy life-style choices being some.

Having been T1 for 32 years of my still-young life, I have paused and pondered relentlessly these same questions. I have my opinions and they evolve constantly.
I wish I knew the magic words to make disease eradication a more pressing goal but there are too many other things in life that need attending to as well.