Diet

Lelebell82
By Lelebell82 Latest Reply 2013-02-27 16:40:32 -0600
Started 2012-04-05 18:18:21 -0500

Any tips on eating? I know white breads are bad but what about wheat pasta and things like that? What should I stay away from?


57 replies

Fefe12
Fefe12 2013-02-27 16:40:32 -0600 Report

Food effects us all so differenly. I only have half a cup of pasta or rice with a meal. It also depends on what you eat with it. Tomatoes sauces are high in sugar so with a half cup of sauce added that means two of your 3-4 sevings of carbs are used up. Will that fill you up? The best way to know is to try a serving checking your blood before and the 2 hours after. You will get a good idea of what works for you.

troublemaker27
troublemaker27 2012-04-13 11:11:48 -0500 Report

well i been walking a lot daily and drinking water too.
i have lost 161 pounds which is good.
so i been on a diet since 2008.
wishing you all the best

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-13 15:47:11 -0500 Report

Hey Tori, that's FANTASTIC! WTG girl You rock!

troublemaker27
troublemaker27 2012-04-13 22:28:35 -0500 Report

hi jayabee how are you?
i'm good just got through eating stir fry food care home style.
now i'm watching "Diners,Drive-Ins and Dives" on Food Network.
what are you doing now?
you on a diet too?
i have lost a lot of weight.
bye and happy weekend

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-14 04:01:36 -0500 Report

I don't use the word "Diet" myself Tori.

I use the word "eating plan" or "meal plan"

I had experemented with managing my Blood Glucose levels without the use of diabetes medications and was successful. I really didn't set out to lose weight but the low carb/high protein meal plan I had concocted took 65 lbs off in the course of a year. You can see what I did by going here ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/14...

I have slacked off of this plan recently and gained about 15 lbs back so it is time to get back on the horse and do it again.

HelpingBoy
HelpingBoy 2012-04-13 13:02:28 -0500 Report

Well it is good to know that, i would like to ask one thing that did you fulfilled the basic energy need which everyone need to intake in any case otherwise it harms your body.

Many Doctors suggest that anyone should not loose weight more than the a specific limit in one week.

J Kate
J Kate 2012-04-13 11:18:22 -0500 Report

Wow! You totally rock! I was feeling cool about my 40 pound loss. Good work.

troublemaker27
troublemaker27 2012-04-13 15:37:12 -0500 Report

hey J Kate tori here well i just got through walking all the way to the hospital.
then back i have felt very good from being insulted this morning at starbucks for buying a venti iced coffee and a small white chocolate mocha which was iced.
and a bagel with cream cheese
i hate being insulted no good and happy weekend j kate

Set apart
Set apart 2012-04-14 07:42:40 -0500 Report

Insults do hurt! People can be so mean and our tongues are the worst weapon against others! I feel that people who insult others must have a self esteem problem themselves, and besides that we only have to deal with them once in a while they on the other hand have to live with themselves. I was taught that people should just be nice, by my dear grandmother, sorry to say the world has given me a new lesson! I still believe in people and always give them the benefit of the doubt! Hugs!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-13 15:45:02 -0500 Report

Well Tori it hurts to be insulted.

I know because in my life I had been insulted a LOT!, especially growing up. Just don't dwell on it. Blow it off (I know easier said . . . ) My (ex) brother in law had a T-shirt which had a Turkey on it with the caption on it "Don't let the turkeys get you down!"

jdla
jdla 2012-04-10 10:37:17 -0500 Report

I am still learning about this as well. I discovered that I can have whole wheat mac & cheese in a small amount less than once a week.Wheat sourdough bread is supposedly one of the best from what I have read, for us. I am looking for it. I was told to stay away from white pastas, rice, breadfs, etc. The key to it all is to learn your system and eat some foods in moderation or as a treat with extra exfcercise or something. At least this is what I am starting to dsicover. I had Pho last night after walkiing for 20 minutes and had my highest reading yet of 170 2 hours later, so no more Pho or Ban noodles for me…
Wishing you the best - Julie

lacat87
lacat87 2012-04-10 14:09:34 -0500 Report

your highest reading yet?! that's fantastic if that's the highest ever! how long have you been a diabetic? and are you type 1 or 2?

jdla
jdla 2012-04-11 08:43:25 -0500 Report

I was diagnosed Feb 28th of this year - I am Type 2 - I was pre-diabetic but my fasting levels average 125-136 so they went ahead and put me on Metformin (I am takng 500mg 1x daily) I need to take a middle of the night level to see how high my numbers are then

lacat87
lacat87 2012-04-11 09:30:22 -0500 Report

Do you have a Diabetic Team yet? I hope so. Because they can be so helpful in determining what's best for you. This team is connected with a diabetic doctor. I strongly suggest getting to know them. You'll probably get more information from them than your doctor. Good luck!

jdla
jdla 2012-04-11 18:05:44 -0500 Report

Thanks - I am going to the education group meetings starting on the 23rd - 3 classes 3hours each

MrsCDogg
MrsCDogg 2012-04-08 10:57:28 -0500 Report

I can only tell you what works best for me. I like to stay away from most breads and pastas, sweets are a no-no for me. I do indulge from time to time in sweets. If I eat bread it is Healthy Life bread and the carb count is usually between 5 and 7 per slice. If I eat pasta I buy Dreamfields only. As long as I don't over cook it it has very little impact on my blood sugar. I don't eat a lot of fruit but when I do I usually go for berries of all kinds. They don't have a huge impact on my blood sugar either. What I like to stick to most of the time is protein, non-starchy vegetables, fat and a small amount of dairy, usually in the form of cheese or Greek yogurt. For a crunchy, salty snack I usually have pork rinds around. I also make some pretty yummy NotChos out of the porn rinds. Just use the pork rinds instead of chips and carry on as you normally would with all the goodies like the meat, cheese, olives, onions, tomatoes, lettuce and sour cream and even salsa.
Keep coming back to Diabetic Connect. There are a lot of really nice people here who will support you all they can.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2012-04-06 15:06:57 -0500 Report

My suggestion is to keep a food diary and let your meter tell you what you "can" and "can't" eat in regards to the effects on your glucose levels. There are many online tools that may help (ie livestrong.com - check out tools and MyPlate D). It's a matter of trial and error when it comes to knowing what works to lower and what raises your glucose levels. I find that eater smaller portions more often has helped me. I was just given a 6.4 a1c down from 6.8. Take a look at whole wheat (not just given the name wheat) breads and looking at lower carb pastas like Dreamfields brand. I don't even crave bread and when I make sandwiches, wrap them in romaine lettuce as "wraps." As you learn to read food labels and recipes you'll be able to plan menus and snacks that work for you. It won't be an overnight thing. Your meter can help you more than any of us.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-04-06 11:09:34 -0500 Report

Actually Lelebelle so very much depends on one's personal metabolic response to certain foods. That is a pretty consistent theme of most of these replies to you. So for me to give you a food which has worked for me well, it may not work so well for you.

There is, however a way to tell what foods "play nice" with your unique metabolism and which do not. I have written a discussion on that method of determining what works for you and what foods/drinks do not. You can find that discussion here ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/14... Check it out, I suspect what you find when you try this will be enlightening, and is certainly better than mere guesswork.

I did this in conjunction with a meal plan where I stopped my dependance on diabetes meds, lowered my Blood Glucose (BG) readings to nearly normal, had an A1c of 5.5 lost 65 lbs (over a year's time), and lowered my insulin resistance. Check that meal plan out here ~ http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/14...

I pray these are helpful to you

James Baker

techguy87114
techguy87114 2012-04-06 09:19:16 -0500 Report

hard to say what works for you. its all about learning. I would use the internet, your doctor etc and even see a nutritionist.. for me, I stay completely away from anything that has white flower in it.. there are great improvements with selection and taste of wheat pastas, breads ( of course ) and other products. regardigng wheat pasta, I have actually found the foods I eat with the wheat pasta taste better than they did with white. Brown rice has become my friend- there are lots of ways you can prepare it!

With breads, I eat as dark as I can ( dark rye) and for wheats.. anything with "multi" in the title is good.

The higher end breads will be more $$ than the 'standard" sandwich wheat but its worth it.

Life has changed and its a lot to take in.. one step and one thing at a time. research, research, research.. thats all I did the first few weeks out of the hospital when I was first daignosed as I mentioned in a previous post.

keep your chin up! As I stated previously.. ATTITUDE is everything.

Best,
techguy87114

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-06 12:30:00 -0500 Report

Attitude is so important: it effects how you cope, the choices you make, and whether or not you will allow this disease/condition/whatever to make your life miserable. Choose to take control of it and enjoy a good life.

techguy87114
techguy87114 2012-04-06 12:38:51 -0500 Report

Caroltoo.. yes you are correct. When I was diagnosed I had to sit back & decide what I wanted.. I chose and still choose every day that T2 is just an inconvience. So I have to do other things, and eat different— its well worth it for me.

Thanks for the reply to my post! glad to see I am able to encourage. :)

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-06 12:43:24 -0500 Report

I wish more people understood that attitude is a choice and in choosing we can give ourselves the ability to be happy despite diabetes, wheelchairs, injections, Alzheimer's, or whatever negative has happened in our lives. We make our own responses and when we focus on the negatives (as opposed to deal with them), we just make ourselves unhappy and more sick.

Jeanae
Jeanae 2012-04-06 08:35:31 -0500 Report

They key is to figure out what spikes your blood sugar. I am like Harlan- no breads, no rice, no pastas… I have found shirataki noodles recently. I can have a little and no spikes what so ever. I am trying to get used to the flavor/texture. I only eat fish and boneless, skinless chicken- always grilled or broiled, never fried. I eat lots of veggies- try to stick with fresh, raw but do like to oven roast some with a tiny bit of extra virgin olive oil and a drizzle of balsamic vinegar. When I want something sweet I have fruit. I do eat egg whites, not the yolks due to cholesterol. I drink skim milk, herbal tea, lots of water. Also try keeping a food journal and test, test, test after eating like 2 hrs. after and if it spikes high, look back and see what you ate and try and figure out what caused that reaction. Portion control. Good luck.

Lelebell82
Lelebell82 2012-04-06 10:36:50 -0500 Report

Right now I have been doing egg whites and whole wheat thin sandwich buns for breakfast, salads for lunch, and veggies with chicken for dinner. I have sugar free pudding and whole wheat crackers…I am going food shopping tonight to stock up on more things. I am just so confused and overwhelmed :( I don't have anything testing my sugar right now. My doctor just put me on metformin, fish oil and vitamin d and told me to come back in a month to test again. I feel like I should just go out and get a blood tester even though she didn't recommend it. I am also switching doctors because she has just made me more confused and has not been very helpful at all.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-06 21:40:12 -0500 Report

My opinion, going to a primary care physician for diabetes in many cases, is like going to a podiatrist for an impacted molar! An endocrinologist that specializes in diabetes is generally the best bet. Also, very few doctors are trained in nutrition. A registered dietician that has training with diabetes can be very helpful with developing a healthy food plan that fits your needs!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-04-06 11:52:41 -0500 Report

Assuming you have insurance (and for your sake, I hope you do), why not call your doc back ask her to give you an Rx for a meter and strips. The meters aren't expensive, but the strips frequently are. If no insurance, try Walmart or other sites listed in some of our discussions.

You need a meter. It's the compass that will help you through this chaos.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-06 08:51:27 -0500 Report

Jeanae…that's about the second or third time that Shirataki noodles were came up. Just curious, do you know what their ingredient are!

Jeanae
Jeanae 2012-04-09 07:32:13 -0500 Report

Japanese Yam Flour. You buy then in packets (they are packed in filtered water. They smell so you have to rinse them a lot. Then you cook them in soups or sukiyaki, or pad thai. I am still not thrilled with them. In fact I gave my friend who is diabetic and loves them, my last pack. I think I wold rather be noodle less.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-09 09:09:59 -0500 Report

Thankyou! I haven't seen them around here, but i would love to be able to eat more then 4 noodles at a serving!

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-06 06:59:04 -0500 Report

One of the few very healthy white foods. There are some great ways to prepare it if you enoy it to begin with!
Cauliflower provides broad-spectrum antioxidant protection from free-radical damage. Along with vitamin C and manganese, it contains phytonutrients including beta-carotene, beta-cryptoxanthin, caffeic acid, cinnamic acid, ferulic acid, quercetin, rutin, and kaempferol. All of these appear to work together to lower oxidative stress on cells.
Now that's an excellent choice!

JSJB
JSJB 2012-04-06 15:55:53 -0500 Report

My wife makes a great cream with chicken and cauliflower & brocoli (?). She baught a spahgetti squash today. Will try it later

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-06 18:13:46 -0500 Report

I love squash, but I never had a spahgetti squash. Let me know what you think.

jdla
jdla 2012-11-15 01:24:31 -0600 Report

I never liked squash until I was forced to start eating healthier. I have found spaghetti squash is very good but not plain. Needs sauce and:or seasoning

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-11-15 05:08:49 -0600 Report

I recently tried it, and it wasn't bad. Butternut squash mashed with some good flavoring is my preference though.

JSJB
JSJB 2012-04-06 04:34:44 -0500 Report

Whit bread, pasta, rice and patatos. I stay away from products made of white flour. Keep reading and you will have a diet you can enjoy. There are times I will say b/s on it and enjoy what I can not eat but that isn't to often. Like last night a big chunk of coconut iced cake Mmmmmmmm Oh well back to the diet. Good Luck

Armourer
Armourer 2012-04-06 01:19:28 -0500 Report

Each one of us diabetics have different reactions to the recommended foods. I know one guy who can't eat brown rice, but can eat all he wants of white rice, huh. I can't eat any wheat made things, not because I can't eat wheat, but it spikes my BG big time. This include brown rice, wheat pasta, wheat grains, oatmeal etc. If I do eat it it must be in small portions. In fact that is one of the big commandments, small portions. In time you will learn what is ok to eat and what is not FOR YOU. BG goes low, eat some carbs with some protein. Eat complex carbs and not simple ones. Eat lots of fiber. Best to the future!

techguy87114
techguy87114 2012-04-05 21:14:57 -0500 Report

Welcome! You are amongst great people that are all surviving Diabetes. I was recently diagnosed (02/07/12) and had some of the same feelings. Get on a good diet, follow your doctors recommendations and remember the best medicine is A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E. I know its hard to imagine yourself with a disease like Diabetes. You're asking "why me" I did to. then I decided to do something about it.

Good luck! Sounds like you're getting some great support so far.. stay close to family/friends and you'll find pretty soon things tend to even out.

Best,
techguy87114

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-05 18:42:54 -0500 Report

Many processed foods are unhealthy. Most including wheat pasta, wheat breads, cakes etc have simple carbs that will raise your bg (blood glucose). Limit processed foods, or eliminate them if they don't offer good nutritional values. Foods like poultry, meat, non starchy vegetables, and small portions of fruit would be a good place to start. I've kept this very basic, because there is a great deal to learn, and some of it must be done with trial and error. Everybody responds differently to a degree. But much of what I am saying about basic choice of food is a rule of thumb and can be taylored to the indidvidual.

Lelebell82
Lelebell82 2012-04-05 18:44:54 -0500 Report

This is going to sound silly but what vegetables are non-starchy?

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-04-05 18:53:22 -0500 Report

A few would be broccoli, carrots, peppers, onions, celery, tomatoes, lettuce actually most green veges with a few exceptions. White potatoes and corn would be considered starchy veges!

JSJB
JSJB 2012-04-06 04:38:45 -0500 Report

If I am not sure what is in the food I eat, I log onto dietgrail.com/diabetes it helps.

Harlen
Harlen 2012-04-05 18:36:33 -0500 Report

Hello
For me I can have a little rice but only a little No spuds ,bread is way bad for me
pasta is a no no for me too , Each of us are a little difrent some frends I know can eat bread and they dont spike but if they eat rice it sends them way off. So the best thing to do is count your carbs and test test test
All in all starch is bad ( lots of carbs )
Please feel free to ask any Q you may have
Best wishes
Harlen

Lelebell82
Lelebell82 2012-04-05 18:40:35 -0500 Report

Thank you!

Harlen
Harlen 2012-04-05 18:44:59 -0500 Report

Any time Lelebell
If theres any thing I can do to help please let me know
Best wishes
Harlen

peterjohn1
peterjohn1 2012-04-25 05:57:16 -0500 Report

Well I do not think bread is good in diet because it contains fats . Moreover, You can eat wheat which is good as compare with pasta which also helps increasing weight . You also have to drink fruit juices , water , Green vegetables .

Harlen
Harlen 2012-04-25 15:37:11 -0500 Report

I cant have the fruit juices they kill me just to let you know there are three typs of food them with fats them with carbs and them with both
Being a diabetic carbs are what I need to watch and some carbs are harder on me then others ,we are each difrent what kills me may not do the same thing to you or others and what kills you may not do the same to me .
Best wishes
Harlen