Still trying to understand the numbers....

kaiya2465
By kaiya2465 Latest Reply 2012-06-23 06:58:01 -0500
Started 2012-03-26 11:44:20 -0500

I am trying to get a better understanding on the numbers game… I think I am getting the high one & sort of know the so-called normal range.
My bs was 88 this morning & after breakfast (2 hrs) it was 84…what does this all mean, because when I am on a rollercoaster when I still am not good with the understanding of it all is honestly very confusing.

Thanks


42 replies

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-06-22 16:06:53 -0500 Report

I am feeling great since I have no shakes. But am a lil stumped now… My levels have been staying in the 70s- & up to the mid 80s depending on what I have eaten, then back down after 2 hrs.
Is this an ok range???

Chanze
Chanze 2012-03-30 12:59:45 -0500 Report

those are definitely great numbers it is all really confusing at first and I definitely remember that stage when I was diagnosised. But with the great community here we hopefully can help clear up what it is you are confused about, along with your doctor of course. My pediatrician told me once when I was going on the pump there is no dumb question in regards to this disease just people who don't know who to ask.

tabby9146
tabby9146 2012-03-27 12:18:42 -0500 Report

those are great numbers!! Did you feel okay? cause some people when they have had diabetes for awhile, might "feel" low at those numbers, which are not too low at all, those are great. Some don't feel low until 70s or lower. I myself feel great with numbers like yours, and very often wake up to the 80s sometimes 90s. You must have had a good low carb breakfast. wishing you continued success

Kirla
Kirla 2012-03-26 16:31:51 -0500 Report

The only way to tell what your numbers mean is to test before you eat, then test about 30 minutes after eating and then test about every 10-15 minutes until it starts to drop. Your blood sugar should increase for awhile and when it starts to drop you should have a good picture of it going up and then start to drop. If you record the time and numbers you will know exactly how that meal affected your blood sugar.

Once at lunch I decided to test about 30 minutes after eating and was very surprised to see my blood sugar was spiking to 170-180 range. By one hour it was back to where it started from. I used to think I peaked about 1 hour after eating. By testing hundreds of times I learned I was peaking at different times for different meals. I now test about 1¼ hours after breakfast, 25 minutes after lunch and about 1 hour after dinner.

Just remember were all different and the foods we eat may affect different people in different ways. If you don’t want to test too much then you should be testing before and 1 hour after eating. You can test breakfast for one week then test lunch for a week and then switch to testing dinner another week. After about 3-4 weeks you should have a good idea how different foods affect you.

Oneshotbandit
Oneshotbandit 2012-03-28 08:43:18 -0500 Report

How do you get away with using so many testing strips? I used my 'allotment' once (50 strips/RX) and the Insurance company wouldn't pay the copay- it cost me $70.00 because I was 3 days early. My Dr & Dietician didn't tell me anything about testing so much, but I do agree that it would/shoiuld give you a better picture of things. I'm gonna try your little experiment & see how things go after I have Chinese! Thx for the info.

BobbieNJ1000
BobbieNJ1000 2012-03-31 11:34:50 -0500 Report

Is that a limit from the insurance company or is it because of the way your doctor wrote the prescription? I've asked my doctor to increase my Rx twice, and he does, but only by one more strip per day each time! I think I have enough to get by now. So far my insurance company hasn't cut me off if I have the prescription; I'm not sure what their limit is.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-26 12:18:51 -0500 Report

Numbers aren't just numbers they are the end results of activities and actions. What did you eat for breakfast and what activities do you do between eating and your second reading. That's the information we need to look at to make sense of the readings. Would you share more?

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-26 12:24:39 -0500 Report

Hi Carol: I had 1/2c. Old Fashioned Oatmeal & coffee. Then I tore down some drywall, going up & down a ladder. I had 10 grapes for a quick snack.

annesmith
annesmith 2012-03-27 01:07:29 -0500 Report

OH, gosh..I'm not your doctor, and I think it's great your blood sugar was such a good lower number after eating, but, for me, the acid in the coffee combined with the acid in the grapes would shake up my whole body…for breakfast, I have to eat higher protein and orange juice, or I get the shakes later on..ha..it's different for every diabetic. If I tore down drywall and went up and down a ladder after eating what you ate, I'd be in a low . It's so darned tricky, because I am bad about counting calories, carbs, etc…however, I walk and run moderate to high 5 days a week, which burns off a lot of excess. This is one tricky disease. When I eat a full breakfast , eggs, orange juice, potatoes, my 30 minute after is extremely high..always around 400. If I make the big mistake of not eating any breakfast and having just black coffee, I fall way too low—into the 70s …70's are way too low for me..anything below 130 and I shake or I feel bad…ANNE

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-03-27 01:15:37 -0500 Report

might you substitute something else for the potatoes and grapes? Consuming those items might be spiking your Blood Glucose (BG) levels? I can understand with your BG levels running as high as yours seem to why you would feel the symptoms of a low below 130.

My bride "Jem" had much the same problem, and it was not fun for her either. But eventually she got her BGs down in the normal range by hanging tough and not eating when she was not really low.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-27 01:21:35 -0500 Report

Anne: Potatoes and orange juice would drive mine sky high too. I haven't had a glass of OJ in almost 10 years except when I occasionally have a swallow from my husband's glass. I eat protein foods for breakfast to keep mine lower and then have a dish of stir fried low Glycemic Index veggies for fiber or add eggs to veggies for a fritatta. Carol

annesmith
annesmith 2012-03-27 02:10:56 -0500 Report

I am learning more and more—-I love this site. I see what you are saying about orange juice…I had not had any for a whole year, then all of a sudden the other day, I craved it SO bad I went and got some..good God…I felt so much better after I drank it. It can be humorous. Yet, if I drink orange juice too much, I fall too low…interesting. I found out in my case high acid drinks or foods send me seriously low if I don't use my common sense and balance it out with crackers or something. I lost count of how many times I used to drink a whole bunch of lemonade or orange juice, with no food in my belly, now, WHY I did such stupid things is beyond me. Live and learn as the saying goes..ha. I used to drink 2 pots of coffee a day, and eat very little—-looking back on it, it was awful…I had been unemployed for 6 months, I smoked so many cigarettes..didn't eat much. I ended up with bleeding ulcers for a combination of reasons. Yes, potatoes work really good for me when I am famished, but I rarely get famished, or allow myself to get to that state anymore—I learned the hard way that waiting that long to eat is bad. I have to eat protein in the morning to keep my blood sugar up, but, the downfall to this has been when I go up, I go seriously UP…ha. ANNE

tabby9146
tabby9146 2012-03-27 12:24:28 -0500 Report

it can be tricky at times one time, about a year ago. I went to Ruby Tuesday for lunch with my husband, I"d had a good breakfast, did not need a snack in between, this was a few hours later, have no idea what my BS was just before lunch, but it must have been low and I did not know it, cause all I ate was a big salad with low fat dressing, edamame, lots of veggies, just about about all they had to offer with it, and some vinegar dressing I decided to try on the other half of the salad, knowing it was better for me, and I had one of those small delicious biscuits well it wasn't but about a half hour later, or 45 minutes, after we left, we were shopping, and a 'low' hit me. I got dizzy. I went to the restroom, and I was in the 70s, whic is good, but for me , I usually feel either light headed or dizzy, this dizziness was bad, though it was short lived. After thinking about it for a while, it dawned on me that that vinegar could have brought it down. I've always read that vinegar lowers BS.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-27 12:40:43 -0500 Report

True…that response was to someone else who had posted on your discussion. That's the problem with using the phone … can't see the context.

Glad you are doing great today! Keep it up.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-26 14:17:40 -0500 Report

OK. You got up with a very good 88. Congratulations, it's about as perfect as you get. Then you ate a moderate breakfast which would raise your BGs if you just sat still, but instead you did some hard physical work and so the 84 that you see is the healthy compensation for that exercise. You are doing good. This is how the body is supposed to work.

Since you are really doing physical labor in your job, be sure you keep eating moderately but fairly often to compensate for the effects of the exercise. That will help you prevent the lows, which then trigger the liver dump which creates the highs.

It's another case of all things in moderation, but to keep it going at a even pace you do need to keep eating little bits to fuel the body for the work. This may be why your doc suggested 5-6 small meals a day. It would be ideal for this situation.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-26 14:25:11 -0500 Report

Thank you Carol for the help, I sure appreciate it. I am also keeping track of what I have ate at those times & how much, so that I can see for myself.

byrun
byrun 2012-03-26 12:12:05 -0500 Report

Both of those are very good numbers. Whatever you had for breakfast nust have agreed with you although if you are going to have a major spike it will be at 1 hour after your first bite of food. By your numbers though, I presume you did not have a major spike.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-26 12:15:04 -0500 Report

byrun: No spikes, just started testing after meals, because once a day does not help me know what I need to. Not in a panic, just trying to figure things out.

byrun
byrun 2012-03-26 12:28:32 -0500 Report

You are right about that. I do some extra tests also to see what is happening with my glucose #'s. So, I'll test before a meal and at 1 hr and at 2hrs. This tells me what certain individual foods do to me or how different amounts of food affect my #'s. Most days I only check twice but I have checked 6 - 8 times when I'm testing like you recently have. This is the stuff we need to know.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-03-27 14:53:07 -0500 Report

So true byrun, I tested like crazy for a good number of months, but in the end it pays off. Eventually, once you get into a routine, you'll know exactly what's going on and will be able to guess your BG fairly accurately. Even though I'm trying to get off regular testing, I still have to if I get sick, or have eaten something I'd never tested before (or overindulged in something I have).

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-03-26 12:20:53 -0500 Report

good for you kaiya! Testing more frequently is a better way to manage your diabetes.

annesmith
annesmith 2012-03-27 01:12:57 -0500 Report

I started paying more attention by getting back to testing more, and , yes, it helps. In my case, I can clearly see how complex my numbers are…for example, when I wake up and my fasting is around 150, I feel really good the rest of the day..if my fasting is bottomed out at 80, I feel like hell until I get something to eat..I lost count of how many times in an approximate 3 year period that I skipped supper, smoked cigarettes instead ( bad mistake) , told myself " It'll be alright..it'll be low in the morning, that's where the doctors want it..low." I stopped doing that 12 months ago, and am feeling much much better. Now, however, I am spiking extremely high a lot, but, my runs and walks clear out a lot of excess …I have a ways to go …there's always more to learn..ha…ANNE