Why Did This Happen???? Scared

kaiya2465
By kaiya2465 Latest Reply 2012-03-24 06:41:06 -0500
Started 2012-03-21 17:56:26 -0500

My BG when I wake up is usually 90, don't go past 112 normally, unless I drink a Latte, (staying away). But just out of curiosity I checked my BG before I was going to eat dinner & it was 220…I have never seen that high of number, what could have caused this, it scared me, & my doctor is out for 3 wks so can't go see him. Please any suggestions, support or anything would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you


58 replies

cindygal1
cindygal1 2012-03-24 06:41:06 -0500 Report

anything can mess up your reading, have you been upset, because that can do it too. Talk to your doctor about the meter you are using and see what she has to say. I check mine two times a day, morning and two hours after eating at night. Mine has been in the eighty and ninety but been upset for a couple of days and mine yesterday was 162 and last night it was 152. I wouldn't worry a whole lot until you can see your doctor and talk to them, I would keep checking like you re suppose to do and then go from there. If you have check at lunch time and see what it is and keep a record to show your doctor.

robertoj
robertoj 2012-03-24 01:27:43 -0500 Report

How often do you test? If its a one time thing then you need not worry. Sometimes if you don't eat for too long your body stops producing insulin and your bg rises.

Misspearl01
Misspearl01 2012-03-23 21:07:11 -0500 Report

Little insight on cheaper meters and strips when first diagnosed they gave me a cheap one from kroger. Had it for five months my pharmacist kept yelling me to get the contour. I thought omg I have no insuance the strips for that meter is like $1 something compared to .19€. But I said ok. Got it the old meter had me 40 points higher than the contour. Went back to my pharmacist he checked with another contour meter and two kroger meters the contours were accurate. Just make sure you test with both for a couple of days so you know how many points they vary. I found out the hard way. Because I to was new to this. Next time they do blood test take both with you so you can be sure of your bg numbers that's why I still use my contour. Numbers can mess you up with eating it did me

Misspearl01
Misspearl01 2012-03-23 19:24:57 -0500 Report

Hi just an insight I read you had been working outside. I recently found out because with my job I am in the sun all the time. On wrested I had a brief trip to the er cause my bg's were 250. No food so not good I hadn't had a number this high since the three hour glucose test. My doctor also works at the hospital when he found out I was there he stopped in. Did not do any test. Just looked at me and said my levels were up because I was sun burnt. Plus he thinks I over heated my self. Sun burn will raise you levels because your body thinks your in pain adrenaline picks up which causes more insulin to dump. There for rising bg's. I think that how he put it. He said that since I work out side to increase water levels and get this eat veggies and fruit that are the color of the sun. Red orange and yellow. Thy have antioxidants to help your skin block and rejuvenate to sun exposure. I learned something new. Just sucks I had to go to the er. Another bill. But I will pay more attention while in the sun. Just a suggestion.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-23 19:52:49 -0500 Report

Misspearl01: Thank you, that will be helpful. I have had heat stroke twice, so now I have to be very careful when I go outside. So I know what your saying on er visits. I will just keep reading & searching for what works for me. I will be able to pick that new meter & strips up next Friday so I can test more.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-23 19:28:55 -0500 Report

Sunburn, extreme physical activity are all things that stress the body and that's what triggers the adrenalin and the ripple effect Misspearl was describing. I think it's a good lesson for all of us. We just don't pay enough attention to those things that put stress on our minds and bodies.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-23 19:55:25 -0500 Report

I can't stay out in the sun for very long. Do you feel yourself getting heated or not? That is part of my problem for outside, just wondering if this is normal for all D types or?????

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-23 22:38:31 -0500 Report

No, I actually seem to handle to sun lots better now than I used to. I attribute that to having a better level of B and C vitamins in my body now. Before I started supplementing I burned horribly and felt really hot and dehydrated.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-03-23 20:05:06 -0500 Report

now that I've had D for a few yrs and I had some ministokes (blood too thick) those ministrokes seemed to have screwed up my temperature regulation. I am only comfortable now when the temp is above 75°f. My right side can't get a good read of the shower temp. If it is too hot or too cold my hand/arm on my R side will prickle like pins are sticking me. Fortunately my L side feels temps normally.

I used to be a very warm person and would sweat profusely when the temp was 80°f or I was exercising/dancing. Now I don't sweat much at all!

It is undoubtedly different for everyone with D as it affects us each differently.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-03-23 20:40:52 -0500 Report

I had those ministrokes in 2005.

They discovered another 1 in 2009 when looking at my thyroid with a MRI. (didn't seem to produce any further symptoms beyond my 3 in 2005) Dr at that time put me on a new med called Aggrenox which was supposed to thin out my blood. Unfortunately it had as a component a dose of asprin, so in Nov 2010 I went to the ER and was hospitalized for 4 days with what turned out to be a bleeding duodenal ulcer. I had 6 units of blood transfused at that time. I am not a large man, so I was pretty close to running on empty as far as blood was concerned. When the bleeding ulcer was discovered the Aggrenox was discontinued (D/Cd) so I really don't do anything in particluar except to keep my BG levels normalized and my BP down. Losing 65 lbs last year helped too as my BP has been good since then.

From wha I can tell, there's not much else I could do but be put on coumadin, which might kick up my bleeding ulcers again. So not a lot of good options except to keep my BGs and BPs down.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-03-23 21:12:26 -0500 Report

Sounds reasonable. My wife had two strokes when she was in her 40s. One was a silent stroke that was discovered when she had her second stroke. These were not mini strokes, but I did get her to the hospital in time for them to break up the clot in time. I told her medical staff that I would not sign her out of the hosp until they determined the cause. Fortunately they did figure it out. I know that in some cases, when strokes begin, they often continue (additional strokes) over a period of time. Would've been the case with my wife had i not been persistent with the doctors. I keep a close watch on her and always make sure she can reach me and vice versa. Knowing the underlying cause, is what has more than likely stopped additional strokes

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 20:13:34 -0500 Report

Ok, what in carnation am I doing?????? Checked my BG before dinner & it was 147..not freaking out but really confused. Not time to retest yet.

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-03-23 07:47:07 -0500 Report

Christine, Even though it is not time to retest, you can. I test 10-12 times aday. When you are high even if it is just little high, Ice Water drink 32 oz. every hour, it flushes all the sugar out of your system and helps get it back on track.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-22 20:18:18 -0500 Report

If you find it remains high, you might try some lean protein (I know, you don't like it, but it really helps in this situation), a handful of almonds, and a big glass of cold water with the juice of a lemon. I had this happen this morning and it surprised me to. I just made my breakfast protein only and it dropped right back down.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 20:26:03 -0500 Report

For dinner I had stir-fried vegies & almonds, not sure if it was good for me to eat or not. Still trying to figure out when to eat & when not to.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-22 20:33:41 -0500 Report

Veggies stir-fried in olive oil with lots of sliced or quartered almonds is a great solution. The veggies have fiber that should help bring down your BGs and the almonds have proteins that will. If it doesn't drop as fast as you would like, you could snack on some more almonds.

Is it too late for you to go walk around the block … or, if your legs aren't working with you today, to do some chair aerobics? Another thought would be something specifically to reduce stress: soft lights, soothing music, warm bath in oil and scent, glass of warm milk, deep/slow breathing, funny movie, good book … or whatever relaxes you.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 20:44:21 -0500 Report

I actually have 4 acres that I can go for walks. Today I raked the yard & dug up cacti. I also go out & play with the dogs for what they know as Last Call for Outside Duty. that will be in about 45 min.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-22 21:22:44 -0500 Report

Sounds wonderful! I knew you had spoken of a cabin, but wasn't sure if it came with a acerage. OK!

If you did all that physical raking, etc., that might have triggered a low which then made you body dump some glucose and you had a resulting high. Walking the dogs should be a good for your BS. It's active, but not to strenuous.

Strenous exercise can bump your BGs up. That's why walking the dogs is a good evening activity. It's calming and it should help bring the BGs down because it isn't heavy exercise like weight lifting or heavy yard work.

This exercise thing can be a little more complicated than it appears on the surface. Exercise is good and usually brings BGs down. On the other hand, really strenuous exercise can deplete your body to the point where you get a low that turns into a high. If you are planning to dig up your yard, for example, it would be good to have a light carb/protein (cheese and crackers with a few almonds) snack before you start. Then you don't get the real low that causes the body to dump glucose.

Lakeland
Lakeland 2012-03-22 19:30:55 -0500 Report

today I cheated on some easter candy & I got up to 190. any allergy medications? nibble on bread or anything? with me it' usually a carb, fruit especially spikes my sugars and medications can to. today I was very bad at eating while doing things. I can't tell you how much I really ate.

I'm just glad we are able to test & make an adjustment, a little walk for me just drops that number

Gambling
Gambling 2012-03-22 19:16:16 -0500 Report

I had something similar happen when I was in the hopital .The nurse took my BG and was close to 400( i was averaging 175 to 250 ).She tested again from another finger and I was under 200 . .. She said that does happen sometimes

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-03-22 17:30:03 -0500 Report

Oh Christine, Your high is I guarentee from the stress you are still under, the fact that you have had illness recently and allergies especially if you are taking a medication for them. Lots Of Love, Margo

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 17:51:56 -0500 Report

Margo: That is what I have been trying to figure out. I want to make sure of things so that I can be more in control. At least now if I see a lil higher number I won't be so scared of it, but take some type of action.

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-03-22 19:55:20 -0500 Report

Christine, we had not yet met on here in October when my son was kidnapped, but the stress from that and the 4 months of court battles to get him back here my BG was all over the place and never low always high and it was the stress. As soon and he was home in January they went back to normal within two weeks.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-03-22 12:43:00 -0500 Report

I know that others have asked you questions already but I'm just trying to get a clearer picture of your situation. You mentioned you had lunch prior, but the 220 was close to dinnertime. Had you eaten anything between lunch and dinner? If so what? Had you done any exercises or extraneous activity prior to the high? Have you been feeling sick lately, like a cold or something coming on?

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 14:23:30 -0500 Report

Young1s: No I didn't have anything between the two. I keep trying to pinpoint weather it might be do to allergies, stress, both, or something else. I am just trying to learn, & it just seems like when I ask certain things, maybe it's the way I ask, I feel like I am wasting everyone's time…Just gets irritating & I so wish I was able to change doctors, because I sure think that would be a big help. Another thing I think that is really messed up…I am only allowed so many test strips to check once a day, but in my opinion pre-d should be checking about the same as D's. How else can we figure out what works for us & what don't.

Thanks

Set apart
Set apart 2012-03-23 06:14:30 -0500 Report

Hi, it's also important to not go without eating, I've ogives when I get too busy mu BG has a tendency to rise, need to those snacks maybe almonds and string cheese, 1/2 apple, etc. My doctor made sure my prescription gives the number of times that I need to check, talk to your doctor, so that your prescription meets your needs! Good Luck!

Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2012-03-22 17:35:28 -0500 Report

I have a meter from walmart and test strips so that I can test often. That way I'm not limited to the amount of test strips that I use.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 18:04:30 -0500 Report

Teresa: Walmart meter with test strips, can you let me know the name &/or cost of that stuff the meter I use now & the strips are not to cheap

Thank you

Young1s
Young1s 2012-03-22 19:14:06 -0500 Report

I believe the Walmart meter is called ReliOn. The meter itself only costs about $8-$10 dollars and the strips start at around $20 for 50. Walgreen's has the TRUEtrack meter that costs about $15 and the strips start at about $20 for 25 and $30 for 50.

Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2012-03-23 19:00:44 -0500 Report

That's how I figured out how to take care of myself, Test, test, test. It took a few weeks of testing often but now I have a system worked out for myself that works so I don't have to test but a couple times a day now.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-23 19:07:03 -0500 Report

Teresa: I thought testing was key to the learning but try telling the insur. idiots that you need to do that for prevention…it's almost like they would rather pay for the meds that T1 & T2's need than help people to try & prevent it to begin with!!!!!!

Thanks

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-23 19:21:52 -0500 Report

Very true. Sounds like a conversation I had with my doc about 7 years ago. Seems the insurance companies have guidelines for how many they will pay for in differenct circumstances. FRUSTRATING and so misguided.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-03-22 15:33:05 -0500 Report

Oh man, don't get me started on the whole insurance and test strips thing. I'm having the same problem. But back to you for now.

Sounds like the answer may be in what Flipmom and Nick were saying earlier. If it was a really long while between your lunch and dinner you may have had a middle of the day liver dump. My suggestions to you would be to try asking the Experts on the home page. They may have better answers for you but it'll probably take them a couple of days to respond. The only other idea I have is, if your doctor has a nursing staff, to try to speak with one of them about this. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help than this.

I don't want you to think that you're wasting anyone's time because you're not. It's just that, sometimes (as in your case) when all the conventional reasons why have been exhausted, it becomes just as frustrating for us to not be able to help. Believe me when I tell you that's how I was feeling as I was reading this discussion and posting my reply.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 15:48:22 -0500 Report

Young1s: No need to say sorry, I try & take everything in that people put out there & think about or try the suggestions that are offered. I don't expect to get the exact answers that work for me, but the suggestions do give me iptions on trying or not, so thank you…

flipmom
flipmom 2012-03-22 11:45:51 -0500 Report

what was the last time you eat before dinner? were you in a lot of stressed? with my expirience, different situation can cause your bg to go up… and if i dont eat at all for longer time, my bg is higher than when i actually eat something… and i cant figure it out either. so try to eat a low carb snack before your next meal.. (this is based on my own , each one is different)

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-03-22 11:56:13 -0500 Report

I've pretty much experienced the same thing - it's kind of like a liver dump, or "dawn effect" in the middle of the day. Especially when stressed. Your (at least mine) body is under the impression it's nearing an event where it will need energy and pumps glucose like crazy if i haven't eaten enough.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 11:55:43 -0500 Report

I ate lunch, but I may have been having stress issues that I did not feel were bothering me, although not sure if that was it. I have a doctor that don't talk to me about Pre-D, or anything & can't afford to see a dietician. What I have learned I have learned from just a few on here, which has been of some help until this new incident came about. Now I feel lost all over again. Thanks for the reply.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-21 23:43:10 -0500 Report

Yes, high BGs do feel really icky! Lets problem solve a little: what was going on with you this afternoon before getting ready for dinner? Were there stressful thoughts and/or events?

This sounds like one of the highs that keeps your A1c up when your tested BGs are usually down. They are to be there, for your A1c to be pre-diabetic. I am encouraged that you caught one of them cause that may give you a better idea of where to look for others. Then maybe we can figure out the why they are there.

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 06:51:36 -0500 Report

Caroltoo: Yes there were a few stressfull events that happened in the last week. I thought they were working themselves out so I didn't think it was bothering me anymore, but maybe they were & I just wasn't realizing it. My bg is back down now to 85, still not feeling all that well. Happy though that I see a number that don't freak me out. Maybe I don't handle stress as good as I thought I did. I do know I need to use this as another wake-up/warning sign, but not sure how or where to start on stress issue control.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-03-22 11:51:20 -0500 Report

Glad to hear the BGs are back down this morning. I used to think I handled stress well also, C. I had a really stressful job, stress with my husband's illness, etc. I found I didn't handle it well. What I did was internalize it, which just hugged it to me so it could make me sick. You might research options in your community for stress management training, CBT therapy, Mindfulness Meditation, yoga, regular exercise like walking that would let you focus on you (something other than the physical demands of the job).

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-22 14:29:33 -0500 Report

Caroltoo: Thank you, me too. I do walk when my legs decide they want to work…Am checking into a yoga class & also use my treadmill when I can't get outside. Will check on CBT Therapy & see if that might be an option.

Thank you

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-03-21 21:21:53 -0500 Report

When I have an unusually high number and I haven't eaten something which would spike me, I immediately wash my fingers and test again. I may have had some sweet stuff on my fingers. That might be your problem here, or I could be missing something?

kaiya2465
kaiya2465 2012-03-21 21:43:41 -0500 Report

I always wash my hands before I test, I am still feeling like ick. I don't have any clues on what might have caused the spike this is my first ever above 150, that is why I posted, but I am thinking it was a waste of time.

annesmith
annesmith 2012-03-23 01:25:37 -0500 Report

No…it wasn't a waste of time. To me, the high number is a reflection of ( and you may not like this) you becoming more and more diabetic. ANNE

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