need some insite on a medical test for nerophy

By jimmuel Latest Reply 2012-03-30 11:03:19 -0500
Started 2012-03-09 12:14:31 -0600

my doctore has sent me to a neroligist for my nerophy,sorry about spelling,there going to do a test with needles an electric shock,to determine how much nerve damage there is I guess anyway,has anyone had this done an If so what can I expect from this an Is It painfull,thanks for your time

39 replies

jangel407 2012-03-13 20:58:21 -0500 Report

I have had several of these tests over the years for a variety of reasons. I had them done for my carpal tunnel, and nerve damage from a serious back injury and neuropathy and you don't have to worry. the needles being placed often feel like a pin prick or a bee sting (minus the sting) and the electric stimulation can mostly be minor/low level pain. It only hurts (when it does) for a few seconds just enough to show a reaction on his machine. Depending where you are being tested (on the body) the test can be quick and thorough or long due to the multiple areas being tested. You won't have any residual problems at all so if you can deal with a nuisance pain for a while then you can handle the test. Good Luck and have a Blessed week.

jimmuel 2012-03-30 11:03:19 -0500 Report

thanks gabby,havnt been on in awhile I'll try the coconut oil out willing to try anything to help relieve the pain besides pain meds

jayabee52 2012-03-09 21:00:12 -0600 Report

I have had the nerve conduction study done in 2006 as a part of a suite of neurological tests to determine the level of damage done by 3 TIAs (aka "ministrokes") There is a wikipedia anticle on the nerve conduction test here ~

jimmuel 2012-03-10 00:49:57 -0600 Report

thanks jaybee,as allways your very helpfull in giving me answer to my questions an everyone else for that matter on DC

Lizardfan 2012-03-09 18:18:50 -0600 Report

I have had the test as well. It is a bit painful when they stick the needles in, and they stuck me a lot. The shocks hurt too, compare it to getting your skin snapped with a rubber band. It is not unbearable and I was happy to get the test done to determine why my leg was numb at times. Depends also on your pain threshold. Good luck!

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-09 19:29:53 -0600 Report

I must have a higher pain threshold then you as it didn't hurt on any of the times. I had it done on my legs and arms and do have nerve damage. Hey, maybe that is why it didn't hurt. No, really, I do have a high tolerence for pain and drugs, but then being type 1 and insulin dependent most of my life, I'm used to giving shots all over the body so these little needles are nothing. The shocks didn't hurt, felt like a slight muscle twitch. I wonder if it is just person to person or who is doing the test?

Better to have the test even if you should feel alittle discomfort then to ignore the problem. I hope they solved your numbness issue:)

Lizardfan 2012-03-09 19:53:47 -0600 Report

Red, did a doctor do your test? My test was done by a doctor, not the neurologist who had me tested. They found nothing wrong with me, finally my doctor ruled it as diabetic nueropathy. I am no longer bothered by the numbness.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-09 20:52:26 -0600 Report

My doctor referred me to have the test done. I had to go to a specialist. I have several drs that I see and even my ortho was concerned. Did you have problems very long? Sometimes drs will automatically say it's neuropathy to just give an answer. Kind of like anything we complain about, they always blame diabetes. Did you take meds? The numbness could of just been your bg not controlled and with better numbers the numbness went away. I hope it doesn't show up again for you.

Lizardfan 2012-03-09 22:36:48 -0600 Report

Red, my doctor decided it was higher blood sugar numbers and when they did improve it went away. I was also having an issue of my foot *dropping* and I would trip over it. When I tried to walk fast it really bothered me. When my sugars lowered that went away too. I remember it was several months of dealing with it. I took regular diabetes meds and nothing for the numbness and *dropping* of my foot.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-11 14:39:32 -0500 Report

Ah, that is what I was thinking, high bg. Let me tell you, I hope you donot develop neuropathy as it can be very painful and frustrating. And as you have seen, if you keep the bg numbers in range you can prevent extra problems. I'm so happy you were able to do it:)

GabbyPA 2012-03-09 15:22:04 -0600 Report

My test was not that elaborate. My podiatrist just checked me with a tuning fork and the filament test. I imagine the one you are going to take will be painless as Red Flower Lady says. I would encourage you to get them to go over it with you as they do it, so you have a good understanding of what is going on. Plus then you can sound so "doctorish" when you explain it to your friends. LOL
Please, let us know how it goes for you.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-09 19:17:36 -0600 Report

The test you had is the basic one, but a good one and is checking to see if you have sensation and reflex in your feet. It is inexpensive and may be done regularly or before ordering the more expensive one. Some pcp drs do it as part of the diabetic exam. The other test is checking the nerves in a more extensive way. The dr may not be ready to explaine the results with you and prefer to let your primary tell you, but if you get a good one, he'll explain the results after and show you the nerve impulses on the machine and explain the intensities to you.

GabbyPA 2012-03-11 11:29:37 -0500 Report

I don't expect I will ever have the machine one, as I am not insured and I bet that costs a bunch to have it done. Knowing the extent of it is good, but does it do anything to help you with improvement of it?

jimmuel 2012-03-11 16:34:10 -0500 Report

I dont have insurance either,they have a program here in Illinions called charity care,you pay what you can afford based on your income,they also help with meds an insuline,test strips,

GabbyPA 2012-03-12 09:40:33 -0500 Report

That is a great program. There are a lot of them out there. That is how I found the clinic I go to. They work the same way. I have never asked for any big test to be done through them. Maybe I should ask next visit.

jimmuel 2012-03-12 11:52:56 -0500 Report

this is the first big test I've had done,I've only been to a regular doctor,He then refered me to a neroligist,Ive been only a diabetic for four years,my BS has never been higher then 500 an my A1C was only 9 or 10 its 6.8 now,but the neroligist says it doesnt matter what your BS run or how long you've been a diabetic some get perifreal nerophy an some with really bad diabetis dont,they dont no what causes it or how to treat it,all I no is half the medicine they give I cant take cause im Bipolar an makes me sucidal.

GabbyPA 2012-03-13 09:09:17 -0500 Report

This is something I am trying right now and it has helped for two nights. So it really is not a great test yet, but I am using coconut oil on my feet at night. Not the suntan kind, but cooking coconut oil. I found it really made my hands feel good after cooking with it, so the other night my feet were bothering me more than usual so I rubbed just a small amount all over the souls of my feet. They calmed down enough to allow me to sleep. There is and anti-bacterial quality of the oil and it absorbs nicely. All natural, no chemicals and it shouldn't make you suicidal so you might want to give it a try.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-11 15:13:29 -0500 Report

It gives them a more precise diagnosis and helps them determine what measures to take with it. Unless you are having alot of problems, I wouldn't worry about not having the test. I have had to have soo many tests done for various reasons, I should write a what to expect book about them. I'm one of those people who donot respond to normal treatment/medication. I have often been told to not feel like a science experment as although rare, it does happen. Lucky me!

jayabee52 2012-03-11 11:41:52 -0500 Report

I believe the nerve conduction test value to help improve a particular condition depends on the condition for which one is being tested. My particular test was due to 3 Ministrokes (TIAs) and there was nothing which could be done for that. I did eventually improve from what I had been (dependent on a walker to get around) and I can walk now without the use of a walker, or cane, but as the test itself telling me what I needed to do, in my case it was not useful, simply diagnostic.

jayabee52 2012-03-11 12:08:54 -0500 Report

What helped me improve was dancing! I had been involved in a dancing class for a year or so when I was stricken, and I really loved it. I worked at walking without assistance, and then I want to the class again. I tried my hand at dancing again and surprisingly, even though I felt unbalanced, I stayed upright. I was able to stay upright as long as I kept my eyes open, since I had changed over from inner ear balancing, to visual field balancing. If I closed my eyes for very long, I started to wobble and was in danger of falling down.

GabbyPA 2012-03-11 12:11:08 -0500 Report

So you are not a Weeble? LOL
That sounds like fun. That is the key, finding a fun thing to do. I walk, and that really helps my feet as well. I am not confident enough to swing any partner. =0)

jayabee52 2012-03-11 12:25:54 -0500 Report

ROTFL! I thought the advertising line for weebles was "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down!"

Now I had slipped on the hem of my pants a time or two and fell down but never did fall down due to my "balance challenges". And I had done that for about 3 years after my TIAs, till the folks teaching the class moved back to WA state.

GabbyPA 2012-03-11 12:39:20 -0500 Report

Ok, so you are a Weeble as long as your eyes are open. I guess that is good, because their eyes are always open.

jimmuel 2012-03-09 17:58:03 -0600 Report

thanks gabby,he used the tunning fork an a thing he p[oked me with asking if I can feel it all over my legs,I will be glad to inform all about it next month on the 5th

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-09 15:13:30 -0600 Report

I have had it, and don't worry about it. It really isn't bad, not like they are big needles. You'll probably have little marks where they were at and the shocking is ok as well. If like me, then you won't feel it, just the little jump from the muscle. I have had it a couple of times. You might even get to see the screen and have it explained to you. That is what they did for me as explaining it to my husband.

jimmuel 2012-03-09 18:02:37 -0600 Report

thanks red flower lady,you've been really helpful

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-09 19:32:36 -0600 Report

Don't get yourself worked up about it. You'll be surprised how easy it is as well. But do ask if they'll explain it to you and maybe show you the screen and what they are looking for. It is very interesting.

Good luck

jimmuel 2012-03-10 00:58:51 -0600 Report

I will ask them If they will explain an show me the screen,I will try not to let it bother me,your helping alote with this,I've never been through anything like this before,you an everyone have been really helpful on this subject.thanks a million

Irish1951 2012-03-09 14:07:55 -0600 Report

I haven't had this test for nueropathy but I did have it for nerve problems associated with a ruptured disk in my neck. I am assuming it is the same test or one that is similar. The needles used are very thin - like the ones used for accupuncture. They do not hurt going in or coming out. The Doctor attaches a wire and puts a small amount of current into them or they can also use it to just measure the bodies electrical current through the nerves. It tells them how the nerves are working in the area being tested. It does not hurt at all storage I didn't deal any.

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