By Caroltoo Latest Reply 2012-03-13 20:44:27 -0500
Started 2012-03-05 00:04:58 -0600

Slide show with information on which vegetables have the lowest carbohydrate counts.


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kaiya2465 2012-03-12 18:31:56 -0500 Report

Is there any difference in the carbs between cooked & raw? Wondering because some of the vegie carbs are when cooked.


Caroltoo 2012-03-12 19:32:00 -0500 Report

Yes, on some veggies there are differences between cooked and raw. That's because cooking breaks down some of the fiber so the carbs are absorbed faster into the blood stream. That'a also why I usually cook mine very lightly, so they still have crunch.

kaiya2465 2012-03-13 11:20:44 -0500 Report

Caroltoo: I eat 98% of my vegies raw that is why I asked, is there a way I can find out the carbs on what I eat raw?


Caroltoo 2012-03-13 14:13:42 -0500 Report

I think you could find it on the GI list that Al posted a few days ago … and, congratulations, raw is very healthy. I read recently on a website that 30% is the MINIMUM of our food should be raw. The implication is more is better. I'm on my way out, Kaiya. I'll look for the list when I return.

OK, I'm back now. Looked up DietGrail.com and found it has Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load, but not a straight carb count. It does show GI and GL differences between cooked and raw vegetable. Sorry, Kaiya, maybe someone else has a carb counter like this. I don't cause I tend toward the GL almost exclusively.

Misspearl01 2012-03-07 08:34:57 -0600 Report

I have seen a bunch of sounds good snacks on here. But to scared to try when I was younger we grow alot of it in our garden over the years I have forgotten about them because as I do the grocery shopping on a tight budget. Only go with what I can afford but soon the gettable stands will be out at least I hope. Friday we got hit with tornados. Most of the places were farms. God bless my friends. Anyway. When I was diagnosed in July. Not only did Tgey say watch. Carbs. But gave me a list of what not to eat.
Nothing that grows underground:(
That's alot of what you guys gave mentioned above. I understand the white potatoes. But radishes. Carrots onions. Come on. Has anyone else been told this. Are they really that bad for us. Or was my now no longer doctor. ( fired this one) giving me a load of 

Caroltoo 2012-03-07 12:43:40 -0600 Report

I'd go for the …; glad you fired him and hope you found someone better.

I avoid white (processed) foods like rice, sugar, bread and anything made from those products.

I also react to potatoes (white is a no-no, red I tolerate a little, sweet potato a little more, yam, etc., but I do pretty much avoid them).

Corn I use in moderation because it has a lot of carbs (source of the starchiness in the corn) and is usually genetically modified. I'll do an occasional corn taco shell cause I can't eat the flour ones and I love Mexican food.

Many of us are lactose intolerant so I avoid milk, but still eat string cheese for a snack. When I need milk, it is coconut milk or almond milk, but it's not a biggie in my diet.

I am gluten intolerant so I use quinoa in place of wheat, rye, barley, and oats. Quinoa comes in grain, flakes, and flour so can meet most needs. I use wild or black rice very sparingly. There are a variety of nut flours on the market that I'm experimenting with in the occasional sauce or breading. I just don't cook like this much any more.

Why don't you print out the lists of veggies and friut that are on the discussions. I'd go easy on the corn, but try the others in moderate amounts and see how your body reacts. That's the best test of what works for you, but, in answer to your earlier question, I definitely eat things that grow underground: carrots, onions, turnips, rutabaga, beets. I am managing my diabetes with NO medications, so I really can vouch for the fact that this does work. My BG was 400 when I was diagnosed.

draco59 2012-03-06 21:13:31 -0600 Report

Well it figures, my favorite veggie, really the only one I really like is corn, and it has the most… I'll eat iceberg lettuces, celery, romaine lettuce, cabbage (in a salad, not cooked), spinach (see cabbage), green beans, carrots if I have too, but prefer raw, Kale, looks interesting, maybe in a salad. I’ll eat a salad and corn but that’s about it.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 21:33:08 -0600 Report

Well aren't you lucky that all of these could go on a salad?! I still eat a little corn now and then … can't turn down a freshly picked ear of corn, may just eat half of it and cut the other half from the cob to sprinkle over a salad later.

draco59 2012-03-06 21:50:10 -0600 Report

I wish I could, usually we just have meat with the corn and no salt. So it's not to bad and theres only the 2 of us. So we only buy 2 at a time. I remember growing up, going down to the corner stand and buy a dozen icked that morning of a dollar.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 21:53:38 -0600 Report

Wonderful memory. I've found a couple stands on the rural side of the island (Northshore near Kuhuku) where I can buy it fresh.

draco59 2012-03-06 22:13:54 -0600 Report

Ya, they were friends of ours; there were 13 kids in the family. In the summer they had a fresh fruit and vegetable stand. When we got older, we’d go before dawn and drive out and pick it. Days gone by…

Jeanae 2012-03-06 20:53:24 -0600 Report

My veterinarian said that my blind diabetic dog- Zoee could have slices of cucumbers, as much as she wanted as snacks and treats during the day. She scarfs them down like it was steak morsels. Now all my dogs LOVE cucumber slices, raw broccoli, and the occassional carrot. My refrigerator is beautiful, colorful, and full of fresh veggies- always. Yummy.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 21:34:39 -0600 Report

Cute. My cat eats broccoli and carrots also. I thought he was just weird for a cat. Well, he is, but I meant his food preferences were strange. Never tried him on cucumbers. I fix them frequently, so will have to give it a try. He's sooo big at 19 pounds, that a few more veggies might be good for him.

roshy 2012-03-06 06:49:53 -0600 Report

i was delighted to come across this list!! i love my vegies and was over joyes to see carrots on there!!!

ive noticed latley i am craving them like crazy. . .. . . like id be happy enough to sit down and have them for breakfast lunch and dinner!!! im a bit concerned that this may be due to a diffenciy in some vitimin or something, anyone have any insight to this, or do i just really like carrots???

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 07:48:42 -0600 Report

Roshy — check out the link that Al just posted on this discussion, but under Nick's post further down the page. It has good glycemic index information, but also a list of all the good vitamins that you could be needed as James and I talked about right below this comment.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 07:37:17 -0600 Report

I use a lot of them too. They are one of my favorite raw foods, particularly when eaten with hummos. I take them with me when I go to play cards with a neighbor on Wednesday evenings. We share a bag, so I've gotten her started on them too.

As for the craving, I think James is probably correct. Our bodies sometimes start to crave something we need … could be Vit. A or it could be the carotene or the fiber.

jayabee52 2012-03-06 06:54:29 -0600 Report

Perhaps it shows a craving for Vitamin A, or some other component in the carrots. I myself had been steering away from them due to bad rap I heard about their erroneous GI listing as a moderate carb choice. I will have to revisit my decision, and the carrot bag soon.

Young1s 2012-03-05 15:42:59 -0600 Report

There are quite a few on here that I have yet to be game enough to introduce into my meal plans:
Arugula (may have had some in a salad but just didn't recognize it)
Broccoli Rabe (never had the opportunity to try some)
Radishes (love them in salad but never buy them)
Turnips (only have them over the holidays when my hubby's mom makes them)
Okra (had some once and didn't like the slimy texture)
Beets (had some as a child and remember getting an awful headache).

But since my tastes have changed with adulthood, I'm thinking about giving them a chance. All the rest I have on a regular basis, with the exception of corn, which I only have on occasion now.

Jeanae 2012-03-06 20:44:23 -0600 Report

Arugula is wonderful. It has a more bitter taste but makes a wonderful salad. My neices' fav. salad is aruglua, tomatoes, black beans, eggs, corn and balsamic vinegar. Broccoli rabe is delish! Love radishes shaved in thin pieces and served in salads or on a veggie tray with hummus. We have turnips, oven roasted, a lot. I can not stand Okra but I do make a battered, oven fried okra for my hubbie and kids. And we have roasted beets, baked like a baked potato and served with some greek yogurt at least once a week. Also love a raw, very thinkly sliced beet salad. The only things on that list that I do not eat is corn- upsets my stomach and okra- just don't care for it but will cook with it.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 20:49:58 -0600 Report

I would never have thought of baking a beet. Interesting idea, I'll have to think about some more.

pixsidust 2012-03-05 17:30:25 -0600 Report

Arugula is found in organic bagged salad. it has bitter taste so its best mixed with other lettuces. Very healthy

jigsaw 2012-03-06 13:42:18 -0600 Report

I'm not sure, so don't hold me to it, but I think its used in strawberry salads. I'll have to check an old Recipe that I have and see.

jigsaw 2012-03-06 17:32:14 -0600 Report

I checked an old recipe, and strawberry salad was made with watercress. I made it once about 6 mos ago, and it was decent. I think watercress looks similar to Arugula. I do have a recipe for a warm pasta salad that calls for Arugula. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't like Arugula, and I only treat myself to a tidbit worth of pasta once in a blue moon.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 18:11:32 -0600 Report

Between your tidbit of pasta and your wife's not liking argula, bet you don't make that one often!

jigsaw 2012-03-06 19:26:55 -0600 Report

No, I don't, but I have so many other salads up my sleeve ( not literally ) that it's not a problem. By the way, do you eat any kind of bread at all ?

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 19:58:50 -0600 Report

I eat an occasional slice of gluten-free multigrain or 1/2 a g-f bagel. That was why I asked on one of these discussions about a g-f Eng. muffin I heard mentioned.

Caroltoo 2012-03-05 18:35:40 -0600 Report

I've had it in restaurant salads and the organic bagged mix, never bought a head of it.

Jeanae 2012-03-06 20:46:24 -0600 Report

I eat arugula a lot. I also like to put some on top of a nice oven roasted piece of chicken and add a tiny bit of red wine vinegar, or lemon juice, or balsamic vinegar. It will wilt slightly but the bitterness will cut through the richness of the chicken and makes a nice counter part.

Caroltoo 2012-03-05 16:14:08 -0600 Report

Beets, radishes, and turnips are the ones I've recently added back into my diet. Beets have betamine and are helpful in dealing with gallbladder issues, so I started eating them again. Turnips have been a staple part of my Irish Stew receipe (which may or may not really be Irish). Radishes, I struggle with … not as fond of the flavor so usually just use some when going through a salad bar rather than buying a bunch and wasting most.

camerashy 2012-03-05 17:50:43 -0600 Report

My mom didn't like radishes, either. until she saw us dipping into the sugar bowl. Then she did it, and ate them often. And she put the sugar bowl where we couldn't reach it, as even as children we weren't allowed carbs - not that that's what it was called then.

pixsidust 2012-03-05 14:13:57 -0600 Report

I need to be reminded of this list.
The only thing that is out for me is beets. Can't stand them,
no matter how they are made including fresh grated in a salad. Yuck
Half the stuff will be in my garden this year
Okra is good in a Gumbo. I prefer a seafood Gumbo myself
Never heard of Broccoli Raab before,
been raised on the plain broccoli variety.
Spinach is favourite…never met a spinach I didn't like.
It behoves us to get creative with these ingredients
like fabmom3 making baked kale chips.
We should be able to snack using healthy alternatives
as well as indulge our meals with the same.

Caroltoo 2012-03-05 15:26:06 -0600 Report

Broccoli Raab (Rabe) was new to me also. I've seen it, but not purchased it. I use broccoli and just considered it another, more expensive, version of broccoli.

If anybody who reads this has tried it, what are your thoughts about taste and preparation?

Jeanae 2012-03-06 20:49:49 -0600 Report

I like it. I par boil it sightly and then sautee with garlic-minced, shallots- minced a spritz of extra virgin olive oil and a squirt of lemon juice. Yum. My family however prefers plain broccoli except roasted in the oven with galic, shallots and olive oil. I add a squirt of lemon as soon as it comes out to brighten the taste.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 20:52:16 -0600 Report

Thanks, I'll have to try it. I do broccoli with garlic and olive oil too. Never added shallots, though I use leek and onion in many foods.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 20:52:07 -0600 Report

Thanks, I'll have to try it. I do broccoli with garlic and olive oil too. Never added shallots, though I use leek and onion in many foods.

Nick1962 2012-03-05 10:05:44 -0600 Report

Except for carrots, corn and okra, these are pretty much staples in our house. Corn and carrots are too high in sugar for me, and okra is…well okra.

jigsaw 2012-03-06 07:42:36 -0600 Report

Not referring to you, but we have quite a few carrot experts here! No one has considered the Gi of raw carrots vs cooked carrots! Here's is a link that pretty much clarifys the matter.

Nick1962 2012-03-06 08:25:52 -0600 Report

Thanks Al, I may need to revisit carrots. My lunch is usually a cup of raw veg or more (used to be baby carrots, now celery/broccolli) so i consume a good deal. May just add them in 1x per week for variety.

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 07:51:44 -0600 Report

Thanks for the link, Al. I bookmarked that one. Has some good information on both the Glycemic Index changes and the vitamins in carrots, as well as the difference that you pointed out between the GI of raw and cooked carrots. Thanks.

jigsaw 2012-03-06 08:31:58 -0600 Report

You're welcome! You know, there is so much to learn, that sometimes I think I'll just throw my hands up and have a giant portion of ice cream and waffles with hot fudge!!! Oh, and hold the carrots!

Caroltoo 2012-03-05 11:27:10 -0600 Report

I could echo most of that. I've occasionally had okra in a dish I enjoyed (Gumbo), but admit I don't know how to cook it. Corn I pretty much avoid for BG and GMO reasons, though I occasionally give in to a corn taco or an individual ear of corn from the garden.

Carrots I eat all the time and don't have a problem with. They originally got a high glycemic index rating because the original study was done on a very small population and appararently had someone like you in it. The recent studies have moved carrots significantly down the GI scale.

jigsaw 2012-03-06 07:38:43 -0600 Report

Do you cook them or eat them raw, or both?

Caroltoo 2012-03-06 07:42:48 -0600 Report

Both. While card playing on Wednesday evenings, a bag of the raw ones are literally my dinner. I also cook them into many foods. Have recently started cutting them julienne style into my stirfrys and even scrambled eggs. China Jim suggested to me that I add cauliflower and carrots to my eggs and I sometimes do that…now I add a few other things like onions and red peppers too.

Nick1962 2012-03-05 11:38:13 -0600 Report

The only way I could stomach okra was deep fried. Corn flour/meal I do all right with, but whole kernel has too much sugar and starch for me. Even now carrots are a toss-up, since they are lower on the scale (but still over 90% carb), I still have to weigh them versus a carb that I would rather have.

TsalagiLenape 2012-03-05 09:57:40 -0600 Report

This is great! WOW! I even made a list of them to keep on hand! hugs Thank you so much!

Caroltoo 2012-03-05 11:28:49 -0600 Report

Yes, its a great reference. You, and some of your recent questions, were one of the people I was thinking of when I posted this and the list of lower carb fruit. Thanks for finding the correct link for that one. I hope to get it all reposted today, but we'll see how fast IT moves on it.

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