Annoying shoulder pain.

Young1s
By Young1s Latest Reply 2012-04-04 08:09:33 -0500
Started 2012-02-20 10:47:22 -0600

Hey everyone. Lately I've been feeling some pain in my shoulders whenever I raise my arms past shoulder level. It's been like this for the past week and a half. I thought it would just go away but it seems to be getting worse and it's more intense in my right shoulder.

I feel it mostly when I brush or wash my hair, wash or lotion my back, move my arms around in circular motions, or even when I raise my arms regular and overhead stretches. I use to be able to sleep with my arms bent under my head but wouldn't even dream of doing it now.

I'm a very flexible person so this is bothering me to no end. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? Is it just my getting older or could it be something else?


46 replies

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-04-03 23:17:13 -0500 Report

It sounds like maybe you have frozen shoulder? It is something that is common with diabetes, yay us:( I have had it as well as torn both rotator cuffs. One stepping into bath with arm raised checking the shower and bad back locked and I slightly went forward and caught the wall. It was the angle of arm and then my weight on it that tore the rotator, I didn't think you could it with such a slight and uneventful thing. Developed frozen shoulder in that arm a couple of months later. The other shoulder I fell down the stairs and tried to catch myself. Let me tell you it isn't nice not being able to move your shoulders or dealing with the pain. My hubby played pro hockey and tore both of his shoulders and stupid me thought you really had to do something like that to tear them.

I would get it checked as soon as you can, and start the therapy needed to correct it as the earlier you catch it the better. I even had to have patches put on and electric shocks given to eventually get it to loosen up and then they put ice packs on, fun.

keep us posted please.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-04-04 08:09:33 -0500 Report

Thanks Red. I believe that's what it is too but couldn't convince my doctor of this. Kind of got the feeling that she was frustrated that I was self diagnosing. This is a first with her so not sure how I want to take that.

When I had my appointment last month, we agreed that I'll try some stretches that she suggested. But I also told her that I'd be doing some of the shoulder rehab videos on youtube, that I found in a discussion. However, if there isn't any significant improvement by my next appt at the end of the month, she's going to schedule me to see a PT.

So far, the pain is subsiding but the mobility is still somewhat limited. I kind of have the reaching up ability back but still having major problems trying to reach behind my back. She kind of ticked me off when I showed her how limited I was reaching behind my back because she told me that I have the reach that most people have. Well…I'm not most people. I'm very flexible in regards to being able to reach up to the back of my neck from behind and I want that back. Okay maybe as I get older I'll lose some of that, but it shouldn't be this abruptly and I should at least be able to unfasten my bra without wincing from pain.

alanab
alanab 2012-02-23 08:16:30 -0600 Report

It does sound like some sort of rotator (rotor) cuff injury. This happened to me about a year ago…it was to the point my arm throbbed even if I wasn't moving it, and I have no idea what I might have done to hurt myself. I couldn't put that arm behind my back, let alone raise it. I talked to a doctor, who sent me to a physical therapist. He helped to get it loosened and stretched, and taught me how to do exercises to keep it from getting in that shape again. Hope that they can get it straight and you're feeling better soon!

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-23 13:01:57 -0600 Report

Thanks Alanab. I hope so too. I used to be able to reach behind my back up to my neck with the back of my fingers. Now I can barely get either arm around to my back at all. That was my first sign that something is wrong.

sunshine1234
sunshine1234 2012-02-22 08:30:18 -0600 Report

Getting ready to have surgery on shoulder. Tendinitis, bone spurs, frozen shoulder That it was a rotator cuff tear. They did tell me my diabetes has a lot to do with it.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-22 11:10:10 -0600 Report

Thanks Sunshine. Yeah, I've been reading a lot about frozen shoulder and D being a possible reason why it can occur. It's amazing how many little things are affected by this annoying disease. Good luck with your shoulder surgery. My son had his tear repaired late last summer. He's doing just fine now. But of course he's young and heals a lot quicker than I do.

chayogarza
chayogarza 2012-02-22 08:26:27 -0600 Report

morning young1,ive been having that problem. maybe the way we sleep? that's what ive been thinking.also when i was on cholesterol medication that was one of my sideeffects to statins.

suziesgirl
suziesgirl 2012-04-03 21:11:43 -0500 Report

Why is it that every time a doctor hands out diabetes drugs, a statin tags along with it?? I refused it and my cholesterol went from 286 to 174 in three months. Losing some weight and adding good fats like walnuts, olive oil, grapeseed oil and coconut oil worked best for me. No margerine or fake butters. Using a small amount of real butter was better and your body knows what to do with it vs I can't belive it's not butter cause it isn't. Nuts are so good for us, in moderation of coarse due to the fat content. They can slow you down when trying to lose weight. Almonds are terrific.
Sandra

suziesgirl
suziesgirl 2012-04-03 21:11:43 -0500 Report

Why is it that every time a doctor hands out diabetes drugs, a statin tags along with it?? I refused it and my cholesterol went from 286 to 174 in three months. Losing some weight and adding good fats like walnuts, olive oil, grapeseed oil and coconut oil worked best for me. No margerine or fake butters. Using a small amount of real butter was better and your body knows what to do with it vs I can't belive it's not butter cause it isn't. Nuts are so good for us, in moderation of coarse due to the fat content. They can slow you down when trying to lose weight. Almonds are terrific.
Sandra

gramme
gramme 2012-02-26 18:40:08 -0600 Report

I think we must all be having the same problems..I used to think my shoulder pain was from working on a assembly line…but that was 8 yrs. ago…then I thought it was from the statin drugs I'm on..but I now know it's from everything! but I found that taking coQ10 helps a lot I learned I can't live without it..coQ10 is something made in your own body and as you age it becomes less productive..like a lot of things in your body…I can't say enough about it…love it

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-22 11:04:52 -0600 Report

Thanks Chayogarza. I guess that could be how it started. I just know that I can't with my arm curled under my head anymore. Not even if the arm is under my pillow. My doctor wants to put me on statins but I'm trying my best to avoid that.

draco59
draco59 2012-02-21 14:34:26 -0600 Report

Hi Young1s,
Well it could be age your 10 yrs. younger than me. But mine is from surgery and a 6 inch pin that was in there for 3 months. Know I have calcium build up and some arthritis starting to form. It’s turned in to my weather station, better than TV….. LOL
Have you picked up anything heavy, or bummed it, or fell on it? I’d go have it looked at, just to be on the safe side. Keep posted….
Have a safe and wonderful day
Brian

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-21 15:20:09 -0600 Report

Hey Ryver. Nope, no heavy lifting, bumps or falls. The heaviest things I walk around with are groceries (when on foot but I only buy what I know I can carry comfortably) and my laptop in my back pack (it's old and heavy) but I don't carry it anywhere too often. I did flip my mattress over a week ago, but I'm almost positive I had these shoulder pains beforehand. I have an appointment next month so I will definitely bring all this up then.

BTW: I thought the who achy joints when weather is turning was just a myth. I guess there really is a positive side to everything. ;)

draco59
draco59 2012-02-21 16:05:45 -0600 Report

Yes your right :-) Unforunitly it hurts like hell, when a big storm is moving in, It starts anywhere from 8 to 24 hours before it gets here. It doesn’t take much to pull or stretch something. But make sure you get it check. I don’t want to scare you, but that’s how they found my mother’s cancer!!! She hit her upper arm and didn’t think anything of it and it was still hurting after about 2 weeks. She when to the Doctor and got and X-ray and found bone cancer. But you just don’t get bone cancer; it has to come from somewhere. Well they find the source, a very rare form of kidney cancer, that women usually do not get. That was in April 2006, we went there for thanksgiving and she was gone Dec 2nd, 2006. She was 69. Never smoked, ate right excursed. So please get it check out, the sooner the better.
Brian

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-21 16:32:14 -0600 Report

Sorry to hear that about your mom. I know that was difficult on you and your family. My father's passing (over 10 years ago) was just as quick. We found out about his cancer in December '00 and he was gone the following July '01. I still feel the void in my life but the pain of losing him is lessening. But it's hard to deal with still sometimes and I miss him dearly.

draco59
draco59 2012-02-21 16:56:41 -0600 Report

Thank you and sorry about your dad…
It was and still is very hard. It made me question everything I grew up believing and rethinking. I doubted everything I thought I believed in. I’ve come to grips on some them and working on the others.
Thanks you, I really appreciate your help and concern
Brian

draco59
draco59 2012-02-21 14:34:00 -0600 Report

Hi Young1s,
Well it could be age your 10 yrs. younger than me. But mine is from surgery and a 6 inch pin that was in there for 3 months. Know I have calcium build up and some arthritis starting to form. It’s turned in to my weather station, better than TV….. LOL
Have you picked up anything heavy, or bummed it, or fell on it? I’d go have it looked at, just to be on the safe side. Keep posted….
Have a safe and wonderful day
Brian

draco59
draco59 2012-02-21 14:33:52 -0600 Report

Hi Young1s,
Well it could be age your 10 yrs. younger than me. But mine is from surgery and a 6 inch pin that was in there for 3 months. Know I have calcium build up and some arthritis starting to form. It’s turned in to my weather station, better than TV….. LOL
Have you picked up anything heavy, or bummed it, or fell on it? I’d go have it looked at, just to be on the safe side. Keep posted….
Have a safe and wonderful day
Brian

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-02-21 07:14:55 -0600 Report

I wish I had an answer for you! Your description brings a multitude of possibilities to mind. If you suspect osteoarthritis, let me know. I might have some helpful info. Hopefully it turns out to be nothing serious, and you find an answer soon.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-21 08:23:30 -0600 Report

Thanks Al. I'll do some reading up on osteoarthritis. So far, it sounds more like frozen shoulder, as Irish1951 suggested, but I'm not ruling anything out. I'll add that to the list of possible reasons for my next doctor's appointment.

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-02-21 08:40:51 -0600 Report

My wife had frozen shoulder quite a few years ago. It was treated successfully with no reoccurrences. That was more than 20 years ago. She was also unable to raise her arm above a certain level. It was caused by Bursitis. Bursitis is an inflammation in the sac within the joint. In my wifes situation, the inflammation caused a buildup of calcium. If one lives long enough, they get a taste of many things. Aren't we lucky?

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-21 09:01:56 -0600 Report

Yeah…it's finally starting to sink in. Sure, you're as young as you feel…but you're body knows EXACTLY how old you are. ;)

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-02-21 09:16:30 -0600 Report

I was referring to myself and my experiences! I know that you are young, charming and a terrific lady!! I would never dare to say otherwise. (-;

jigsaw
jigsaw 2012-02-21 10:08:39 -0600 Report

I am currently walking away from my computer with an ear to ear smile on my face! I don't think I'm great, but hearing it from you makes me feel soooo good!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-02-20 21:17:44 -0600 Report

I have experienced shoulder pain when lifting my arms. Mine was resolved by an excellent chiropractor. I've gone off and on before and always look for a chiropractor who is a Palmer graduate. Their training is very thorough and all have been good. Have occasionally not found one, strayed elsewhere, and been disappointed with the results.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-20 21:34:18 -0600 Report

Thanks Carol. Given what I've been reading and seeing on a couple of videos, seems like some mobility exercises are definitely the way to go. I'll try those until my next doctor appointment next month.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-02-23 14:52:02 -0600 Report

My chiropractor gave me a book on "Frozen Shoulder". I used these exercises and his care, then got discouraged and saw my PCP. She referred me to an orthopedic doc who referred me for PT for 3-4 months and many dollars beyond my insurance coverage. Eventually, I think it was chiropractic and massage that was most effective.

What I've read and was told by the orthopod, is that frozen shoulder frequently happens to women as our hormones lessen, so it does actually happen MORE often to women, than to men. Obviously, there are other causes, this is just the most frequent one is hormonally related. Stats show it takes 12-18 mos to recover without therapy, so do try to find some help for it. Frankly, I found not being able to fasten my bra a real bummer … amazing which little things hit us the hardest, isn't it?

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-23 17:03:26 -0600 Report

Yes…that's what I read too. Seems ridiculous but everything I've read says that it can get worse (the pain and stiffness) then for some unexplained reason can correct itself. But I'd rather not suffer the steps.

Not being able to fasten my bra and lotion my back on my own is what alerted me to the problem. It really is amazing. I equate it to being sick. Wellness is never really appreciated until you're getting over a bad cold or worse.

Irish1951
Irish1951 2012-02-20 12:34:36 -0600 Report

You may want to check the search function on this site. Check under "frozen shoulder". There have been several discussions regarding this. A friend of mine has been experiencing this and is going to a chiropractor.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-02-20 11:27:05 -0600 Report

Hate to sound like a broken record, but what you describe is what got me started with chiropractic. Pinched nerves between C5-C7.

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-20 12:07:31 -0600 Report

Pinched by what? How? Sorry if I'm asking you to be a mind reader, or what have you, but I can't imagine what I've done to cause this to happen. I haven't done any heavy lifting, I only travel with my laptop in my backpack every once in a while and I never carry bags or groceries that are too weighted down. But this is in both shoulders, just more intense in the right, and I now have to use my stepping stool to get things out of the cupboards that should be an easy reach and grab.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-02-20 12:20:23 -0600 Report

Pinched by your vertibrae. Your nerves start in your brain and go down your spinal column and exit between the vertibrae to various body parts. Heres a good interactive site that explains it - just click on the screen to start.
http://base.chiromatrix.com/3d_spine/nerve_ch...
Posture, stress, and many other things can make your spinal column go out of whack. It doesn't need to be a catastrophic event, and it can be cumulative over time. Most chiropractors call it a subluxation, and you can have one or several at various points in your spine.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-02-20 14:12:22 -0600 Report

Is it a muscular pain like if you try to lift your arm you get it? But if you manually lifted it with your other arm (or someone else lifted) it you won't?

Young1s
Young1s 2012-02-20 14:22:52 -0600 Report

It definitely feels muscular and I only feel it when I am doing the things mentioned above or when I'm doing something that requires a large range of motion (reaching up to change a light bulb, reaching top of cupboards, fridge, etc…).

I clicked on all of the vertebrae in the link that you offered me but it didn't show anything in correlation to what I'm experiencing but it was a very interesting link. Thanks again.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-02-20 14:39:20 -0600 Report

In hindsight that link may not have been the best if you've never seen a chiropractor. Basically, the nerve or nerves get pinched by a vertabrae misalignment or inflamed/bulging disk causing the nerve to send false signals. There is usually nothing wrong with the joint or muscle, but becuase the nerve is compromised it sends a pain signal back to the brain. Tension often causes the muscls in your neck to compress those vertabrae causing the pinch. It's a fairly simple process to release it - much like cracking your knuckles.

byrun
byrun 2012-02-20 11:37:45 -0600 Report

I've also used Chiropractic services for decades. I presently have a monthly maintainence appointment and it works well for me.

Nick1962
Nick1962 2012-02-20 11:48:56 -0600 Report

Ditto here - I go in on saturday mornings which is usually casual and mostly "regulars" -a fun little party sometimes.
Only after about $4K in other testing (full body x-rays, sonograms, and MRI's) which none showed any problems did I finally get tipped off to chiro. None of the doctors even suggested it. I couldn't go through a drive through because I couldn't lift my arm out the car window.

byrun
byrun 2012-02-20 12:33:44 -0600 Report

I've been going since I was in high school. My brother and I would go in twice a week during wrestling season. It has always worked very well for me.