Blood sugar levels

By usrucks Latest Reply 2012-07-22 15:03:02 -0500
Started 2012-02-20 08:03:31 -0600

My blood sugar levels are over 150 in the AM The rest of the day they are lower. Has anyone else had this problem and what did you do?

46 replies

Copperchef 2012-02-24 08:59:22 -0600 Report

As your blood sugar level begins to drop between meals or during sleep, your liver converts stored glycogen back into glucose and releases it into your bloodstream. This process helps prevent your blood sugar from dropping to an abnormally low level. The hormone glucagon, from your pancreas, triggers the breakdown of glycogen in your liver to maintain your blood glucose level. Our disease allows, more of the glucose to stay in serum than is used by the cells. Insulin is what unlocks our cells to use the glucose.
Our medications, either help our pancreas produce insulin or give us additional insulin, to allow our cells to use the glucose. By morning, our medications are at their lowest, so our sugars are higher than we would think they would be.
Remember, although important to track, our BG is only part of the picture. As long as your A1c is in the 6's or lower your morning BG is fine.

judy makowski
judy makowski 2012-02-23 21:31:16 -0600 Report

Hi. I have had similar problems. Sometimes it comes due to what I eat before bed or if I went to long without eating and ate a big dinner. Then there have
been times where everything is great and morning sugars are high. I spoke with with mmy doc. and found out that my liver dumps sugar during the night and it can make my bg levels high in the am. We had to work out by trial and error how much medication I needed to take at night and if I needed a protien snack before bed. Don't ;know if this helped you but hope it gives you some ideas Judy

MoeGig 2012-02-22 20:14:52 -0600 Report

Basically, you don't have a problem. Those readings will give you an A1c in the 6's which is all you want INHO:>). After 46 years of doing this, aim for 80's to 180's and you're fine.

JSJB 2012-02-22 19:27:26 -0600 Report

Reading all the replies, I thing that everyone has their own way of keeping their sugar low. It is just finding what is right for you. I read that people are going low on carbs but I found out that keeping my carbs between 50 and 100 will give me a low morning reading. So keep trying and don't give up you will find the answer.

Jerryt67 2012-02-21 15:22:19 -0600 Report

My levels seem different. First thing in the morning it is 60. After I eat breakfast and two hours later lunch and check two hours after that it is 174. Is it diet, timing or ???. I don't know about the alchol effect except to say if I would have enough of it I couldn't find or read the meter anyway.

jayabee52 2012-02-21 15:29:36 -0600 Report

Howdy Jerry! WELCOME to DiabeticConnect. glad you're here and have decided to post here.

I am wondering what you may be eating or drinking which would give you a Blood Glucose (BG) reading of 174? Obviously if you have this 2 hrs after your meal it would seem it is not something which would "play nice" with your metabolism.

Blessings to you and yours, Jerry


Jerryt67 2012-02-21 15:38:03 -0600 Report

I had a bowl of cheeroos with Equal then two hours later had a ham sandwich and four small pieces of celery with peanut butter. I check my BG at 3:35 p.m. and it was 174 and I check again at 4:35 and now it is 116. ????

jayabee52 2012-02-21 18:24:55 -0600 Report

Al (Jigsaw) is right. the cheerios is fairly high in carbs. In fact anything with oats tends to spike me. The next question which occurs to me is what was the size of the portion of Os that you ate? Portion size can often "getcha". In my case I did a test of oat bran cerial and with the portion recommended on the box my Blood Glucose (BG) was too high. (about 60 points higher than my "baseline" test.) I tested again another day using half of the recommended portion. Of course my BG levels were lower, but I didn't feel satisfied by that amount.

The Os spiked you. A quick up and then down. That is not good. Our goal as a Person with Diabetes (PWD) is to have a gentle rise in BG levels and a long digestion

The celery with peanut butter was ideal. Protein in the pnut buttr gives a long slow digestion process and because it is a protein stays in your stomach longer. It gives a gentle rise to your BG levels and stays there a long time. And the celery is an ideal thing to eat the pnut buttr on as it has 0 carbs.

annesmith 2012-03-23 02:05:02 -0500 Report

Mine is too low in the morning, however, I eat little at night. If I eat 3 full meals a day, and don't over exercise, my fasting is in the 300s. My sugar rises as the day gets to afternoon..I rise way way up by 3pm. There are so many factors. Today, I thought for sure my sugar would be high, and it was the opposite..too low. I have been under a LOT of stress lately, and it dropped from the stress today…I have no idea why..I had plenty of protein, and for the amount of protein and sugar I had, I normally would have SOARED into the 400s and 500s, but not today…it literally dropped down to 129…boy, I honestly am perplexed on that one…my guess is that I burned off a lot of sugar being deathly worried about my taxes… 129 I felt bad…ANNE

jigsaw 2012-02-22 10:32:57 -0600 Report

In answering Jerry, I think neither one of us stressed or clarified an important point. Carbs add up when consumed in one meal regardless of the type of carbs (simple, complex) or foods they are ingested with. Cheerios, bread, and peanut butter all at one time ( with the exception of very small portions) could be quite a bit of carbs for diabetics to ingest without having a spike like Jerry had. Carb counting and getting familiar with it is something he is apparently not to familiar with. Reading labels for carb count can be a simple yet crucial bit of info. Getting familiar with simple carbs vs complex carbs is a bit more complicated. Determining which foods slow the digestion of carbs can be even more confusing for a new diabetic. I know that you know this, but more importantly, does Jerry? I suspect that without some sort of professional direction, this is a long road to hoe! Could be a costly one in terms of health and diabetic complications.

lacat87 2012-02-22 18:15:53 -0600 Report

Hi Jayabee, got a question for you…what is Dawn effect? Been diabetic for only 2 years and have never heard of this. Appreciate your help with this!

milesrf 2012-02-22 20:26:58 -0600 Report


Not the newest article on dawn effect, but it should get you started.

On speed of digestion of complex carbs:

Bread, most other wheat products, rice, corn (also called maize), Irish potatoes: about as fast as simple carbs, such as table sugar.

Sweet potatoes, cooked dried beans: noticeably slower, and therefore giving a lower peak in your readings.

The crust of pizza: especially slow, often around 5 hours.

Fibers: you don't digest them yourself, so the bacteria in your large intestine get a chance to do it. If they can, expect intestinal gas and possibly diarrhea. If they can't, expect what you leave in the toilet to be larger than usual.

lacat87 2012-02-23 04:33:59 -0600 Report

thank you so much for referring me to this article. does a good job of explaining the dawn effect. When I started taking Lantus in am, I was told to check my bg at 3 am. Thankfully I don't have to do that anymore!

Jerryt67 2012-02-22 08:27:14 -0600 Report

Thanks jayabee52 for the input. I'm sure my portion size was big because I was hungry. I guess that is part of the problem, eating enough to be satisfied and not constantly feeling starved. I can see where the carbs can be a problem and will watch those more closely. Is using drinks like Glucerna a help?

Set apart
Set apart 2012-02-24 06:16:46 -0600 Report

I drink Glucerma sometimes, but have learned to only drink usually 1/2 of one since they have 27 carbs per drink and do seem to cause a BG increase. They are high in protein I think like 16 g per drink, I usually pair 1/2 of one with a boiled egg or a handful of almonds. I also keep Atkins shakes around sometimes when traveling with work, this help when I don't need a lot of carbs along with other easy to eat snacks.

jayabee52 2012-02-22 14:11:43 -0600 Report

I have not used Glucerna at all so I have no experience with it.

Have you seen Jigsaw's answer to me above? Please read it if you haven't yet. Each of us gave incomplete info. He thought of it so I'll give him the credit.

lacat87 2012-02-23 04:22:07 -0600 Report

I have used Glucerna drinks and they also raise my bgs a lot. Glad I'm not the only one having this problem!

jigsaw 2012-02-21 16:25:26 -0600 Report

Cheerios is fairly high in carbs and will raise the bg in many diabetics. Breads will generally cause an increase in bg and so will peanut butter. Approximately 2 hours after a meal, bg will peak. Depending on how active you are and the meds you take will affect how fast your bg comes back down. Sounds like your over doing the carbs. You might want to consider talking to a registered dietician and try the Ask The Expert section here on DC. They have doctors and diabetic educators that can definitely offer helpful advice.

lacat87 2012-02-23 04:38:42 -0600 Report

What a smart guy my very special friend is! He has and continues to help me even we have different types of diabetes. Listen to him people, you'll learn a lot! Thanks Al.

Bamberg 2012-02-20 23:12:37 -0600 Report

I am new to this. Many things about diabetes seem counter-intuitive. Blood sugar goes up while your sleeping. I have found that Guinness lowers my BG by quite a bit. How can that be?

annesmith 2012-03-23 02:10:19 -0500 Report

I have found definitely that my blood sugar LOWERS when I sleep…now, what in the heck? Can anybody relate to me? Mine rises extremely high in the afternoon and later, but when I sleep , it's nosediving down…I am not hypoglycemic at all..been tested for that..I am diabetic without a doubt they found many times. Geez…how come I feel like the only one that goes low on most nights? What a tricky disease this is…because, when I do go high at night, I SOAR into the 600s and 700s…ANNE

Set apart
Set apart 2012-03-23 06:06:59 -0500 Report

hi Anne, well you've got company, I am experiencing lows at night, not every night, but most nights. I don't have BGs that are too high, Maybe 150, but I can go to bed with a BG reading of 137 and by 12:30 am I can be at 50-60. Am having go set the alarm to make sure that I don't pass out! BG this morning 109, thus is good since sometimes if I didn't have to get up to go work I wonder how low I would get since my fasting BG can be 69 at 4:30 am. I am also having problems with OJ too much acid, so I guess I'll have to use frosting or gel tubes. Then what you gotta get up to brush teeth???????? Good luck!

annesmith 2012-03-23 02:10:15 -0500 Report

I have found definitely that my blood sugar LOWERS when I sleep…now, what in the heck? Can anybody relate to me? Mine rises extremely high in the afternoon and later, but when I sleep , it's nosediving down…I am not hypoglycemic at all..been tested for that..I am diabetic without a doubt they found many times. Geez…how come I feel like the only one that goes low on most nights? What a tricky disease this is…because, when I do go high at night, I SOAR into the 600s and 700s…ANNE

milesrf 2012-02-22 20:36:10 -0600 Report

Alcoholic drinks often have a mixed effect. They may or may not contain enough carbs to raise your readings. But the alcohol part temporarily shuts down your liver's ability to convert protein into glucose, and therefore keeps your readings low. For me, dry red wine is about the best alcoholic drink if I want any at all.

jayabee52 2012-02-21 20:20:44 -0600 Report

Blood glucose (BG) which goes up when sleeping may be due to the "Dawn effect", David. The liver of most every person alive stores glyucogen and dumps it when one's BG levels get low. (after all, you ARE fasting when you sleep)

It is an emergency thing which most everyone has. Those folks who have normal pancreas functions it is no problem because the pancreas kicks out insulin to cover the rise. But those of us who are pancreas impaired somehow, the BGs rise and are not taken care of until much later. So that is why the BGs are higher in the AM.

To stop this AM rise take your before bed BG readings and if they are below 130 eat a snack with protein in it, like a couple teaspoons of peanut butter on celery sticks. Something like that will digest most of the night and carry you through the night without a low.

Bamberg 2012-02-21 22:38:21 -0600 Report

I almost never get a BG reading as high as 130 no matter when I take it. Almost all my readings are between 85 and 120. I don't take medication anymore and I've avoided sweeteners for so long that I seem to have developed an aversion to them. I am just interested in the process. I can go to bed with a BG of 90 and wake up with a BG of 115. I couldn't figure it out. Liver dump explains it. I realize that diabetes is a progressive desease and that I may not be able to stay off of medication forever. I plan to delay it as long as possible, though.

byrun 2012-02-21 10:10:31 -0600 Report

It works the same for me. Alcohol will give me a slight spike in and then it causes my BG#'s to drop. I do make sure that I have something to eat while enjoying a pint or two.

Bamberg 2012-02-20 18:04:30 -0600 Report

My BG is higher in the morning. Even if I eat nothing between the last test of the previous day and the morning test, it still rises. It is still well below dangerous levels, never above 120 for instance.

Harlen 2012-02-20 14:30:39 -0600 Report

For me it was having a high fiber light snack before bead
Best wishes

DietAudreyCola 2012-02-21 11:04:25 -0600 Report

high fiber cereal or bars?

Harlen 2012-02-21 17:42:13 -0600 Report

I do triscits lol 4 works for me lol

CaliKo 2012-02-21 19:52:11 -0600 Report

Oh, I forgot about triscuits — I'm getting some at the store tomorrow, thanks! What a great idea for a bedtime snack. Maybe with cheese.

CaliKo 2012-02-21 20:31:19 -0600 Report

I will, I keep the portions small. I just have a hard time thinking of a variety of whole grain bedtime snacks. I get tired of my same ol' mini whole wheat bagel.

jayabee52 2012-02-20 09:13:20 -0600 Report

Sounds like you may (as diabetesfree suggested) have the dawn effect, but to be able to take a good guess on that one we'd need to know what your Blood Glucose (BG) levels just before you go to bed. (If you are not taking them just before retiring for the night perhaps it would be a good thing to do) Then we would have a good base from which to make an informed guess as to what is going on when you're sleeping. It is either Dawn effect, or you are eating in your sleep. LoL!

diabetesfree 2012-02-20 08:16:01 -0600 Report

I believe that high blood sugars in the morning are caused by something called the "dawn effect". You might want to Google that phrase. Without knowing what medications you use, your diet, when you last eat before going to bed, if you are Type I Type II, etc. I wouldn't really want to make any guesses as to what is the real cause of the problem. More info would definitely help.

lacat87 2012-02-23 04:47:02 -0600 Report

I get high fasting bg in am when I have eaten too much after I have taken my bg at bed time! Must be I have eaten too much before I wake up and take my bgs. And it's the wrong kind of carbs because I'm so very hungry. I also have learned that if I am very hungry that means my bgs are very high.

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