What to do about always having high sugars?

Goddess
By Goddess Latest Reply 2009-02-25 03:06:49 -0600
Started 2008-11-10 14:38:57 -0600

I always hae high bs even when I don't eat. My morning bs are always in the 200's.


55 replies

jsd2005
jsd2005 2009-02-25 03:06:49 -0600 Report

My first question is, what medications are you taking? Not only diabetic medication as other meds can affect sugars as well. talk with your Dr. to examine this possibility.

If you are on insulin, then some adjustments should be made. If you are on oral medication, the same is true. the goal is for fasting sugars to be as close to normal as we can get them. How high is too high? What are your readings. What are your 2 hour post meal readings? How often do you test? These are all questions that I would consider and know the answer to, when approaching my physician with questions.

200 is too high for an am sugar. You should have something pre-meal in the evening that lasts till am to help control sugars through the night and early am.
I think you would feel better, both physically and mentally
maintaining a tighter control. With that being said, it will also help you in the long run to avoid some of the long term affect or side affects of diabetes, by having a tighter control.

Please, talk with your Dr.

jsd2005
jsd2005 2009-02-24 02:10:17 -0600 Report

Sounds as if you need an adjustment in insulin or oral meds. I would talk with my Dr. You are doing the right things and sometimes, it is out of our control. That is where the frustration sets in. Don't give up. Talk to your Dr/ and see what other options there are for you.

Goddess
Goddess 2009-02-23 18:33:24 -0600 Report

I believe this needs to be up.

2catty
2catty 2009-02-23 18:43:38 -0600 Report

Goddess I am right there with you. I always no matter what have high morning sugars and wishy washy ones through the day. High low roller coaster. I also take byetta plus Lantus glyburide and novolog. I am insulin resistant and that's why the Dr. said he know's I am doing every thing I should be doing but it is time for a pump. The roller coaster ride I have every day is no fun. I surely did not stand in line for it either. LOL

phishery
phishery 2008-12-13 20:38:27 -0600 Report

I too have been using a low carbohydrate diet to control my diabetes. A1C went from 8.0 to 5.0 in 3 months following a a very strict low carb diet.

Someone above asked what you eat on this sort of diet and I wanted to provide a pointer to this free 300 page low carb recipe book developed for those with diabetes.

http://www.dsolve.com/additional-resources/do...

Goddess
Goddess 2008-12-14 13:39:08 -0600 Report

My A1C's are perfect that's why it's so hard to figure out. Do you have any answers?

phishery
phishery 2008-12-14 15:59:07 -0600 Report

Not sure I am able to piece the situation together from the various posts—are you saying that you consistently get high blood sugar readings after meals, but your A1C is around 4.5?

There are two possible causes for this situation that I can think of: First, you are getting a higher reading then what your actual blood sugar is (this could occur if you draw blood from a site contaminated with sugars); Second, your A1C is lower then your true blood sugar—I know I personally take quite a bit of Alpha Lipoic Acid (with biotin added) which does cause the A1C to be lower then without taking it.

Let me know on the first question—I am curious which of these two root causes may be correct.

Goddess
Goddess 2008-12-14 16:18:42 -0600 Report

my sugars stay high all the time except right after i take my meds then they start to get high about a hour after my meds

phishery
phishery 2008-12-14 17:02:52 -0600 Report

One question—is this regardless of the meal? Have you eaten meals restricted to 12g of carb (e.g., a big salad with lots of low carb veggies, full fat dressing and fist-sized piece of meat)?

I would be curious what would occur in that scenario since an average sized man or women this shouldn't produce sky-rocketing post-prandial and if there is any insulin production/absorption left I don't think the blood sugar could go much beyond 180.

Lastly, I am not an MD, but I know that some type 2 diabetics end up using injected insulin (novolog, lantus, etc.) in combination with their other medications to achieve normal blood sugars. As suggested above it sounds like it is a complicated scenario.

In my personal treatment plan I do as much as I can with diet so I can take as little insulin as possible (I am type 1).

Bellemina
Bellemina 2008-12-06 23:21:54 -0600 Report

I find that having a balanced meal every 4 to 5 hours keeps my bs in a normal range also exercise helps alot and never ever skip meals your sugar will go all out of wack!

maggie56g
maggie56g 2008-12-06 16:57:24 -0600 Report

If your bs is always above 200 it is time to have a talk with your doctor. You may need to change your medicine or if your are on insulin you may need to increase the evening amount or if it stays up all the time it is time for an increase. unless your sugar is up because of holiday stress or some other reason. Like i said in the beginning you may or should see your doctor or diabetes educator for some sound advice on better control.

Goddess
Goddess 2008-12-06 06:38:16 -0600 Report

Right now I take an shot of Byetta.

BethP
BethP 2008-12-06 10:44:53 -0600 Report

I love your new name!! Truly fits!

I was in a drug study for byetta. It definitely cut my appetite…but unfortunately not my blood sugars as much as the doctor wanted. My weight was down…but he attributed that to my high blood sugars.

Since the study, some other news has come out about byetta. You may want to do some research.

Goddess
Goddess 2008-11-28 17:26:40 -0600 Report

Does anyone have anymore suggestions?

Jlynn
Jlynn 2008-12-01 08:53:47 -0600 Report

Hi Misery, I wish you had a more positive name to start with it would make me feel ..idk…maybe not(dont take thattoo serious)
Are you on ? med? My sugars are high alot too ..im on insulin , etc..yet know that highs are effectef by all sorts of triggers besides my DIET. Like Stress, infections, and some women I have read even have highs before their menstral cycles, pms also effects the sugars..

Its a tough one to figure out …and taking notes on a calendar with your daily activities,meals, stressors, etc..can help you stand back and investigate…and take to Doctor to go over the calendar,,

P.S. I know it was easy for me too say …Im working on my calendar,really..

as soon as I log Off!!! take CARE,
"UN-Misery"

Goddess
Goddess 2008-12-01 14:11:08 -0600 Report

is this a better name?

Jlynn
Jlynn 2008-12-01 21:30:43 -0600 Report

like i said a minute ago on the other db …didnt mean to be disrespectful just something I have been wondering reading your blogs;;Theres alot in our name,, my url's are usually the same' keepnfayth, why i didnt on here idk..But I do love your name…but its how you feel that MATTERS..How was today?? see my "uplifting" posts! your friend i hope Jeri

Gabby
GabbyPA 2008-11-25 19:30:09 -0600 Report

I have been picking and picking at my numbers a little at a time. I was always in the 200's in the morning and now, I am finally getting into the mid to upper 100's. I don't have meds and I also use a low carb approach similar to what Skip suggested. I had to up my carbs a little because I got afraid that I was getting too much fat. So I make sure now my ratios of Protine, Carbs and fats run about 20, 45,35 and it has been helping me. Try to balance each meal, not just the over all day. Toma taught me the importance of that and I think that is what is making a difference.

The other thing that I find helps me the most is exercise. I notice on a couple of days after I skip an exercise session, I have a hard time getting my numbers below 200. When I get back into my routine it is easier to keep below 200 all day.

Now my goal is to get to below 140, then I will be thrilled!!

SkipT
SkipT 2008-11-25 16:58:57 -0600 Report

Actually the one thing that will keep your numbers up is carbohydrates. Here is a website that will explain the low carb approach to keeping diabetes in check.

http://www.dsolve.com/

Low carbing is not easy to start, but it will prove beneficial to you numbers in the long run.

When I got my first diagnosis my A1C was 6.5. I weighed 261 lbs. Following low carb (the Bernstein program) within a week I cut my numbers from 231 down to 131! Over the course of a year I lost 77 lbs and went from a size 44 down to a size 35 pants, a 2XXL shirt down to a medium. I have kept the weight off for over two years and I also eliminated the actos and metformin I was taking. My last A1C last monday was 5.9. My meter average for the past month is 99. Low carb does work.

Jlynn
Jlynn 2008-12-01 08:41:35 -0600 Report

Thats an envious average..got me motivated …can u share with us ;what you eat on an average day and the times…also if your on meds…ty

LadyDi - 26259Miller
LadyDi - 26259Miller 2008-11-25 14:39:16 -0600 Report

I'm sure you're consulting with your dotor. Has he tried a number of different things (meds, insulin pens, etc)? What does he say about the fact that you are unable to bring it down even when not eating? I don't know your meds, of course, but seems that some medication or combination would help get it more controlled. Good luck. I know how frustrated you must be, but keep trying!

Goddess
Goddess 2008-11-25 14:08:25 -0600 Report

Does anyone know what to do when you have taken all your meds and your sugars are still high?

NormaJean
NormaJean 2008-11-25 15:13:01 -0600 Report

Hi Misery you are not alone last night before I went to bed I tested my sugar it was 392 which is the highest I have ever been,I had some home made bread and butter and a cup of tea for dinner don't know why it was so high..oops I think I forgot to take my Met..so I took a half of my pill before going to sleep.When I woke up this morning I tested it was down to 118 which is good.I was very happy.

Jlynn
Jlynn 2008-12-01 08:39:21 -0600 Report

Hi I know why it was high, bread has a lot of carbs and uually the homemade is even worse for you, unless its made with that magic diabetes_friendly flour n other ??. And by itself with no protein or ? it will get in you and raise your sugars!!
Just a thought

NormaJean
NormaJean 2008-12-01 14:05:32 -0600 Report

Thanks JLyn I had not thought about the bread,I get tired of eating the whole wheat bread, sometimes I make home made bread but I have to watch my carbs ,you are right.

NormaJean
NormaJean 2008-11-25 15:16:26 -0600 Report

Hi Misery what's your diet like…do you stick to a balanced diet…what kind of foods do you eat…?

Goddess
Goddess 2008-11-25 15:31:39 -0600 Report

My diet is exactly what my dietician set up for me. I have another problem that keeps me from controlling my highs which caused this complication and it is gastroparesis.

noel7
noel7 2008-11-25 19:39:58 -0600 Report

Beside my meds i take lemon with water,cinamon pill and garlic pill together for me it help .Take it for five day and see what happen. before a meal or at night.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2008-11-25 20:07:32 -0600 Report

Yep, cinnamon is a great help and I too use lemon or lime. I have receintly been trying camomile tea. I read an article on how it is supposed to help.

caspersmama
caspersmama 2008-11-10 16:05:25 -0600 Report

First thing is you need to eat even if it is something small. You also need to eat a snack before bed like sometimes I eat a 1/2 peanut butter sandwich with a little milk. I t will keep my numbers level during the night. I do not know all the medical terms for this but my doctor said if you do not eat you have nothing to absorb the sugar and it will remain high. But you have to force yourself to eat.