Drivers License

Rochelle K
By Rochelle K Latest Reply 2016-08-01 11:30:46 -0500
Started 2012-01-24 14:21:57 -0600

I just went and changed my name on my license back to my maiden name…separated for 2 years now, so it was overdue. Anyways, During the process she asked if I had any medical conditions. I said I have recently been diagnosed as Diabetic. Turns out, I have to fill out a supplementary Medical application for my Drivers License, and they can choose to allow me to keep driving, or deny me. I have never heard of that before. Anyone else?


106 replies

Anonymous
Anonymous 2012-05-15 09:24:05 -0500 Report

My Doc told me about the driving law here in the Carolina's. Being unaware of hypo/hyperglycemia,the Doc stated I would probably have my driver license revoked. My reply"Then I will sell my car and buy a tractor to drive". the conversation hasnt been brought up since then. If I get to where i can no longer focus on a sign,then I will teach my dog to let me know what the sign says. 2 barks for stop and 1 to go.

Nana_anna
Nana_anna 2012-05-15 08:00:08 -0500 Report

I have heard about it. It hasn't happened in Florida yet. They are working on the cell phone issues first here I think.

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Setzer
Setzer 2012-05-15 05:54:25 -0500 Report

Yeah I've definately experienced this. I still don't have a license and I'm 27. This is in California by the way.

Rileydoll2010
Rileydoll2010 2012-11-13 17:33:20 -0600 Report

I'm 25 yrs old and still trying to get mine in the state of Pa. Seems like no matter how hard I try I just can't get it :(

JSJB
JSJB 2012-11-15 17:24:26 -0600 Report

suggestion, Driving School. It worked for my grand daughter and helps on insurance costs

roshy
roshy 2012-05-11 11:43:59 -0500 Report

i have a full drivers licence ( live in Ireland) and i have to have it renewed every 3 years. I have to get a letter signed by the doc and get my eyes tested iswell. its a pain but sure what can you do??

JoJoHarbrow
JoJoHarbrow 2012-05-07 23:05:25 -0500 Report

You have to have checks on your eyes and stuff to see if you should be allowed to have your license. I had to get two checks done before they even allowed me to get my learners license and they will most likely make me do another for my provisional driving license. You get them done every couple of years I think

MAYS
MAYS 2012-03-06 12:23:16 -0600 Report

Most states offer restricted drivers licenses to Type 1 diabetics and most insulin dependant type 2 diabetics (check with your state).

Some of the other professions that limit, or restrict insulin dependant diabetics are the construction industry, airlines (pilots), military and some police departments.

If diabetes is classified as a disability in your state, certain restrictions kick in which must take into consideration not only your civil rights, but also the rights of others:

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/diabetes.html

There is a good and a bad to everything, safety first!

Armourer
Armourer 2012-02-06 15:30:06 -0600 Report

Yes, every six months I have to go to doc and have the form filled out and sent in. It is a pain.

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-01-28 19:53:52 -0600 Report

Yes, they can do that. They are really cracking down on people who havee medical conditions that can cause them problems when driving. Chances are if you have not had any accidents or anything due to the diabetes you will be fine.

harry1
harry1 2012-01-29 10:56:57 -0600 Report

i know the laws are differant from commerial drivers and regular drivers. when i first started driving trucks i had to get physical every 2 years then when i starting having health problems it went down to every 6 months then down to where they would not pass me. i never had an accident the only thing i had was my shipping papers were wrong no fine just a yelling by d.o.t..

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-01-29 14:07:36 -0600 Report

As a driver of big rigs and a regular driver every year we are required by law to have physicals and as a diabetic, the doctor has to feel out paperwork now answering questions as to if your diabetes is under control if it is not they can yank your CDL. But they can also do the same to your regular license.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-01-29 15:21:12 -0600 Report

My brother had to do that. He drove local and cross country during his career. The get pretty tough, but they have to. There is a lot on the line in those cases.

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-01-29 22:30:43 -0600 Report

Yes there is, We are insured for a million dollars on every load we haul. We do Live stock and grain. They were having way to many accidents with people that had heart problems, diabetes, strokes, epilepsi ect. and they did really start cracking down on it.

harry1
harry1 2012-01-27 22:57:40 -0600 Report

My former endo turned me into the state of pa. for uncontrolled diabetes type 2 with pill and insulin treatment she said that its the law for commerical drivers. for me to get a federal wavier it takes 180 days and its only good for 180 days. i can understand thier point of view since i didn't want to have an accident with a load of gasoline. the only thing they took from me was my commerical they lower me to passenger car and truck.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-01-27 23:31:19 -0600 Report

Driving a gasoline rig, I'd have to say I understand their choice also cause it could be so dangerous for so many. Can you get your license reinstated if you get control of your BGs or is the 180 days at a time restriction just too much trouble? How are you doing with this?

harry1
harry1 2012-01-28 04:06:23 -0600 Report

its been 3 years and 2 endos and still uncontrolled just had labs done on thurs a1c was 12.6 down from 12.7 in november and i'm starting to have signs that my kidneys are failing excess protein and sugar in urrine. i see a pcp, endo, gastro and a psycho drs and they all said that i'm unemployable and that it would be best for me to file for social security disablity.

EdnaShukis
EdnaShukis 2012-03-06 10:05:13 -0600 Report

I agree about filing for Social Security and I will keep you in my prayers to help get your diabetes undercontol. Do you have an insulin pump… probably not because of the insurance but that might help?

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-01-29 22:35:05 -0600 Report

I have filed for social security but not due to complications, I had an injury accident from a fall at a Super Wal Mart almost 4 years ago hat keeps me from being able to work. Had surgery on my left arm, 15 pins and scres between my bicept holding it in place and under my shoulder bone where they had to reattach things. can't left the arm over the head and cant left more than 5 lbs and I can pick things up but they fall out of the hand fairly easily. I have arthritis in it and my arm is in constant pain especially in cold weather.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-28 18:44:34 -0600 Report

I filed online and got it first try, just laid it out, did not try to pull anything funny, the only surprise I got that you have to be out of work 5 months before you get your first check.
Tom

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-01-28 21:10:54 -0600 Report

Good news that the process went smoothly for you. As I think back, the examples I know of were all in WA state, but being a Federal program, don't know why that would be different there. Ah, maybe the timing … they were also longer ago than when you applied. I hope that means it is easier to do now.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-29 12:10:17 -0600 Report

I think I was one of the lucky ones.
It should not be like this, but getting help when you truly need it is such a hassle, then you see how some have the system figured out and play it for all it is worth.
I'll get off my soap box now;{)
Tom

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-01-28 18:27:44 -0600 Report

Ah, Harry, I'm sorry to hear this. Good luck with the process. Probably the sooner you start, the better.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2012-01-26 20:07:59 -0600 Report

It varies based on where you live. In the US the power is with the state but you have to listen to the questions and answer based on that, not based on what you think they might want to hear. For instance, I'm about to renew my license in Ohio and the question here asks if you have "a condition that results in episodic impairment of consciousness or loss of muscular control, and whether he or she has a physical or mental condition that prevents him or her from exercising reasonable and ordinary control of a motor vehicle." My answer will be no (and nothing more than no) because my diabetes has never resulted in "episodic impairment of consciousness or loss of muscular control" or prevented me from "exercising reasonable and ordinary control of a motor vehicle." Unless the question specifically asks about diabetes or insulin, which most states do not, you should answer the question based on your own experiences. If what they are asking has never happened to you then they can't decide that it might so you have to go through an approval process (which is generally done by non-medical personnel, for me the Ohio DMV has no medical review board or medical personnel on staff) . Their questions are carefully worded, you should listen to them and answer exactly what they ask. Most should be yes or no, nothing more.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2012-01-26 19:24:24 -0600 Report

Driving restrictions vary by state. In Maryland we can now go online and add three emergency contacts to our drivers license which helps if you are in an accident or anywhere and become ill or unresponsive.

Turtle
Turtle 2012-01-26 15:32:47 -0600 Report

This interests me because before I renewed this time, I called them and anonomously asked if people with diabetes especially on insulin (cuz I use insulin ) and/ or if people using oxygen ( cuz I was at the time ), if they were restricted in any way for drivers liscence. The reason I was aware of these possibilities is because in this State people with epilepsy (poorly controled ) cannot drive and I have controlled epilepsy. The answer to my question was "no restrictions on either account"…isn't that weird? My mom recently had 3 heart attacks and had to have a pace maker put in but she can drive…weird.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-01-26 16:05:31 -0600 Report

Another side to this discussion is that when a medical exam is done, if it is done by the person's PCP it frequently doesn't reflect a valid analysis of the individual's ability to drive. I had to stop him from driving because of his eyesight and Alzheimer's because the doctor's kept signing off on his forms.

Now as a person with diabetes, I would rather my own doctor who knows me better than a stranger who knows the disease and not me, make this decision. My point here is that the patient and doctor relationship can affect the decision and, ultimately, the safety of the decision.

Regardless of the form, if we injure or kill someone, we will bear the full brunt of the legal consequences.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-26 16:23:57 -0600 Report

If the Dr saw the forms, I would trust my Dr as I know he values hi licence to practice medicine and would not do any thing knowingly to jeopardize it, but I would never leave anything with one of his office girls that needs filled out, as she never knows left from right.
Another thing I like now that hi has gone all computer at our visits we can be a printout of what is put into our files.
Tom

Turtle
Turtle 2012-01-26 16:17:32 -0600 Report

I agree with you and that is partly why I wanted to make sure legeally I was ok. The dr. and me know me physically the best. I am fairly new to insulin. So I have questions, naturally. If I let my epilepsy determine if I drive or not, I may not drive some. However, I know me and I know it is not a threat. I have never had a seizure when driving.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-26 10:57:37 -0600 Report

Reposting this link so it back near the top
http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/...
Tom

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-01-26 11:56:29 -0600 Report

Perfect! Great link. Now I know why they didn't ask me. It is not on their list of questions to ask. To be honest, when I was getting mine renewed I was so upset at the new requirements that it didn't even cross my mind.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-01-27 00:46:41 -0600 Report

What new requirements, and what state?

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-01-27 08:56:58 -0600 Report

If you go to the link that Old-n-Grey posted it will take you to a page on the ADA site. Then you type in your state and it will take you to all that information. Very good stuff. I read the requirements on Florida and am satisfied I am not in violation. They ask about seizures, not diabetes and since I do not suffer from seizures I am within their limits.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-26 12:09:44 -0600 Report

Vermont is getting as bad, after all I'm within 50 miles of the Canadian border. and we border Quebec, talk about a bunch of extremists, HE HE HA Ha Ha;)
Tom

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-26 14:04:45 -0600 Report

Both, If want to find anything in Quebec you had better know how to read Canadian french! Once you cross the line that's all you have, english signs are frowned upon if not illegal ;{(

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2012-01-26 14:08:18 -0600 Report

My brother-in-law was Executive Director of the canadian branch of SAM for a number of years prior to his death. He was based in Quebec once he returned from years in the Amazon basin where he lived and raised his kids on one of the Amazon's tributary rivers. Canada/Quebec/French seemed pretty tame to him after Amazon/exheadhunters/life w/diabetes and w/out doctors.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-01-26 10:36:25 -0600 Report

I renewed mine in 2010 and I guess I didn't tell, they didn't ask. I am not sure what the protocol is for Florida. I do know that everyone is mad because we are now getting Federal ID's that are our driver licensees and we have to bring in at least 4 proof of name and address documents including birth certificates. I guess they are so focused on that they didn't bother to ask anything else.

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2012-01-26 07:31:34 -0600 Report

This was discussed several months ago Rochelle and if I remember correctly California and several other states have started doing this.

draco59
draco59 2012-01-25 21:51:41 -0600 Report

I've never heard that before either, except for truckers (CDL). Here in Texas, I've been renewing mine online years and they never asked. Makes you stop and think. Because besides the Diabetes and sleep apnea, I didd fall asleep a few times at red lights, dr. gave me something for that. but for another list. Please keep ne informend and I'll do the same.

cavie2
cavie2 2012-01-25 20:15:50 -0600 Report

Below is an extract posted on Google of a driver who had Sleep Apnea, this including Diabetes and Seizures or any other illness that can possibly affect your driving and making the decision not to report it is down right inconsiderate, shallow and selfish:

Being drowsy during the day can cause many complications at work and in personal life, but the biggest threat from being drowsy is the risk for your life. Even if you don’t have a particularly dangerous job, being overly tired from a sleep disorder can lead to falling asleep at the wheel of your car.

A recent truck crash in the UK has raised questions about the procedures of professional drivers as related to sleep complications. After the crash took the life of Toby Tweddell, Toby’s father called for further investigation. It was found that the truck driver who fell asleep at the wheel was actually suffering from obstructive sleep apnea. The father of the victim is now pushing for all professional drivers to be pre-screened for these types of sleep disorders to prevent a tragedy such as this from happening again in the future.

door331
door331 2012-01-25 12:24:03 -0600 Report

I had the same thing happen when I went to add my M class to my drivers license. Long story short- just leave the DMV and go back another day. Don't tell them you have Diabetes. The form is a hassle and for my state I need a Dr to sign off on it. This would have to be done EVERY time I renew my license. Luckily I avoided this situation.

cavie2
cavie2 2012-01-25 09:39:37 -0600 Report

DIABETES MELLITUS
GROUP 1 ENTITLEMENT
ODL - CAR, M/CYCLE
GROUP 2 ENTITLEMENT
VOC – LGV/PCV
INSULIN-TREATED
Drivers are sent a detailed letter of explanation about their licence and driving by DVLA.
See Appendix to this Chapter for a sample of this letter (DIABINF)
TEMPORARY INSULIN TREATMENT
e.g. gestational diabetes, post-myocardial infarction, participants in oral/inhaled insulin trials.
• Must have awareness of hypoglycaemia.
• Must not have had more than one episode of hypoglycaemia requiring the assistance of another person in the preceding twelve months.
• There must be appropriate blood glucose monitoring.
• Must not be regarded as a likely source of danger to the public while driving.
• The visual standards for acuity and visual field must be met
Impaired awareness of hypoglycaemia has been defined by the Secretary of State's Honorary Medical Advisory Panel on Driving and Diabetes as, 'an inability to detect the onset of hypoglycaemia because of a total absence of warning symptoms'.
If meets the medical standard a 1, 2 or 3 year licence will be issued.
Provided they are under medical supervision and have not been advised by their doctor that they are at risk of disabling hypoglycaemia, need not notify DVLA. If experiencing disabling hypoglycaemia, DVLA should be notified.
Notify DVLA if treatment continues for more than 3 months or for more than 3 months after delivery for gestational diabetes.
May apply for any Group 2 licence. Must satisfy the following criteria :
• No episode of hypoglycaemia requiring the assistance of another person has occurred in the preceding 12 months.
• Has full awareness of hypoglycaemia.
• Regularly monitors blood glucose at least twice daily and at times relevant to driving using a glucose meter with a memory function to measure and record blood glucose levels. At the annual examination by an independent Consultant Diabetologist, 3 months of blood glucose readings must be available.
• Must demonstrate an understanding of the risks of hypoglycaemia.
There are no other debarring complications of diabetes such as a visual field defect.
If meets the medical standards a 1 year licence will be issued.
As above
MANAGED BY TABLETS WHICH CARRY A RISK OF INDUCING HYPOGLYCAEMIA.
THIS INCLUDES SULPHONYLUREAS AND GLINIDES
See Appendix to this Chapter for INF188/2
Must not have had more than one episode of hypoglycaemia requiring the assistance of another person within the preceding 12 months. It may be appropriate to monitor blood glucose regularly and at times relevant to driving to enable the detection of hypoglycaemia. Must be under regular medical review.
If the above requirements and all of those set out in the attached information on INF188/2 are met, DVLA does not require notification. This information leaflet can be printed and retained for future reference.
Alternatively, if the information indicates that medical enquiries will need to be undertaken, DVLA should be notified.
Must satisfy the following criteria:
• No episode of hypoglycaemia requiring the assistance of another person has occurred in the preceding 12 months.
• Has full awareness of hypoglycaemia.
• Regularly monitors blood glucose at least twice daily and at times relevant to driving.
• Must demonstrate an understanding of the risks of hypoglycaemia.
• There are no other debarring complications of diabetes such as a visual field defect.
If meets the medical standards 1, 2 or 3

cavie2
cavie2 2012-01-25 08:52:35 -0600 Report

That is the case in the UK. You only get it back if and when you manage to control your diabetes and only after they have been in contact with your GP and Hospital. If you have a driving licence then are dx with diabetes and don't tell them about it and have an accident your insurance will not be covered and your licence will immediately be taken away. Diabetes affects your eyesight if not under control and that affects your driving.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-01-24 17:30:53 -0600 Report

I suspect this is in case you tend to go into a coma from low bs. Sometimes people that pass out on a regular basis still drive. I have a sticker on my drivers licence in WV,

smiles4all
smiles4all 2012-01-26 00:56:58 -0600 Report

I passed out from any injury or bump starting at age 4 it went on until I was 45 years old. I finally received a pacemaker when they found out I passed out while driving and totaled a car. Thankfully no one was hurt but, at the time of the accident I was 18 years old. No one (Dr's) worried even when I complained about it all the time happening. As I grew older it became more prevalent, me passing out and no warning signs of it happening. They said all those times my head hit the floor or the wall or the cement it caused early dementia for me. Yet, they waited until I had a heart-attack to help me.
Go figure?

w8chd
w8chd 2012-01-25 13:03:23 -0600 Report

Is it just something to let whoever might be looking at your license know you are diabetic? I'm in WV and have to get my address changed soon.

2012-01-24 16:43:10 -0600 Report

So far in California, there is no such law on the books. I do have decals on my windows stating the fact that I am a diabetic. But never had to fill out any type of paperwork stating the fact. Maybe driving laws are different in Canada.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-01-25 18:21:58 -0600 Report

when I applied for my CA dl I did have to make out and sign a statement saying I could operate a motor vehicle safely (that was the gist of the statement). I signed it affirming I could safely drive. No Problem.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-01-24 17:23:25 -0600 Report

It does ask you on the back of the form if you have diabetes requiring insulin. Any hypoglycemic episodes in the last three years. Any other adverse reaction related to diabetes in the last three years. This is on the CA form.

2012-01-24 17:41:20 -0600 Report

I was not aware of that, R~F~L. It's been so long since I've been to the DMV here in California, that I had not a clue. It's been at least 8 (or so) years that I've been renewing my license in the mail. I'm sure it almost time for me to go and stand in those AWFUL lines. (which we ALL know the DMV is NOTORIOUS for.)

cavie2
cavie2 2012-01-26 14:38:09 -0600 Report

Tom's link states for California all first time and renewal drivers are asked about certain conditions including diabetes. So this must be for people who actually go to the centre and don't renew through the post. Check it out.

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-26 15:04:00 -0600 Report

I believe they rely on people being honest and fill every thing out truthfully, I would think if you denied having an impairment and you had a serious accident you would be wide open for any liability which would arise
Tom

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-01-24 17:48:58 -0600 Report

Make an appt on line, and when you go in, there is a line for appts only, If you are not sure, excuse yourself and ask at the front of the line and they will direct you. It goes fast.

2012-01-25 17:26:20 -0600 Report

I'll definitely will keep this in mind when I actually have to go down there to renew my drivers license. I just renewed it last July, (in the mail. Yeah!!) so I won't be needing to do it until 2014. (I think.)

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser
Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2012-01-24 17:05:56 -0600 Report

you better go to the link i posted below in this discussion
Tom

2012-01-24 17:11:46 -0600 Report

Thx Tom. I will. I did not know that. I've been lucky and have been able to renew my license thru the mail. But I'm sure my time will come when I'll have to stand in those AWFUL lines. Thanx again Tom.