Heart Health for diabetics: Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Lipid count, .....

By Caroltoo Latest Reply 2012-01-20 01:17:52 -0600
Started 2011-12-31 16:31:12 -0600

Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides are all of concern to those of us with Diabetes or Metabolic Syndrome. My recent test results show my HDL and triglycerides to be in great shape, but I am in need of reducing my LDL and general cholesterol readings.

My doctor suggested I take three months to use some new nutritional supplements to see if I can accomplish this without Rxs. In the past, when I have tried the Rxs (3 different ones), I have developed muscle weakness and stopped taking them. I found it encouraging that she would suggest this alternative.

The list she gave me to lower my lipid count is: garlic, soluble fiber, plant sterols, soy protein, gugulipid, flax seed, and niacin (1,000 mg no-flush variety).

I use lots of garlic and eat vast amounts of soluble fiber, so those aren't new to me. Flax seed was part of a recent recommendation Renee made for hair health, so I will following up on that anyway, and Niacin I had simply gotten away from taking. So that left me to research the plant sterols and gugulipid.

Here are some of the products I found for sources of these:
gugulipid: Ultra Guggulow (Doctor's Best with 1,000 mg/capsule)
plant sterols: ChoLESStat with Flaphenol CCM (plant sterols and gugul extract)
general cholesterol: cholestoril (assists fat metabolism and breakdown).
So this is what I will be trying for 3 months.

In addition, I wanted to do some reading to be sure my diet is appropriate (it is), and found this informational series of slides on Web MD. You can cycle through several sets of slides on cholesterol and diet. Some is probably review, some may be new. It's nice to have it all in one easy to access spot.


9 replies

Young1s 2012-01-19 19:52:39 -0600 Report

Wow. Thank you for suggesting that take a look at this. Going by what the LDL chart says, I'm pretty bad off and can't afford to take this lightly. That slideshow was just a further illustration of the importance in doubling up my diet and exercise efforts.

w8chd 2012-01-03 06:44:41 -0600 Report

I use Niacin 1000mg per day and garlic 3000-4000 mg per day. That's just to keep it from going up too much. Generally I don't give any of that cholestrol , etc any thought. Mine usually runs 160-215. The 215 was in November and I had run out of Niacin for several months. I do believe it does work. You should do fine. It depends on how low you want it to be.

Caroltoo 2012-01-03 09:48:43 -0600 Report

I'm with you in attitude and range. I'm just barely above 200 now and had been 175. I'm happy with it just coming down a little under 200. I've tried oatmeal for a couple days and seen my BG rise sharply both times, so will probably try quinoa flakes this morning and see how that goes since I usually spike less with guinoa. I have added the Niacin back in so your comments sound hopeful to me. I know Niacin helps with general cholesterol. Have you seen any change in lowering your LDL with it? Thanks for your input.

w8chd 2012-01-03 12:37:23 -0600 Report

Oatmeal…yuck! :) The only way I have found oatmeal to be edible is in those no bake cookies. I don't know what my ldl, hdl and triglycerides are. I don't pay any attention to them anymore. Sorry I can't help you there.

jigsaw 2012-01-01 15:34:30 -0600 Report

Check out Red Yeast Rice and Policosanol while your researching. Just before I became diabetic, a blood test determined my triglycerides to be 750! With the proper guided use of Red Yeast Rice, Policosanol, exercise and a low carb diet, it took me 9 mos to get my triglycerides down to 80. I was very lucky to find out very early! Heart tests, cathartic artery tests all turned out ok. I also got my total cholesterol down from 230 to 160 back then. Currently, my total cholesterol is 125. I do take Lipitor however at this stage. In the past, I have also taken gugulipids and no flush niacin with some success and no neg effects. I will definitely check out the links you have posted. I wish you success in you journey to lowering your LDLs.

Caroltoo 2012-01-01 16:30:37 -0600 Report

Thanks, Al. I will look into both of them. Glad you have had such success.

I'm a little leary of any rice product because of how I react to rice, but it won't hurt to look. Policosanol, I've heard of, but never used. I'll check that one out for sure.

I really am not concerned about lowering my cholesterol 12 points (min.) because I know I still eat beef and I don't eat soy. Changing those 2 items really should do it. I started to experiment with oatmeal this a.m. I'm gluten intolerant, so am approaching this one-day-at-a-time w/r/t oatmeal. Oatmeal doesn't have gluten. The issue is cross-contamination in the milling process. I selected a steel ground product made by a company that makes alternative flours, in hopes of avoiding that issue.

I think the bigger challenge is to lower my LDL. Exercise keeps the HDL up in a very healthy range, so the ratio is good. Triglycerides are normal. The LDL is where the plant sterols and gugulipid come in. I'll see if the policosanol will help there.

Otherwise, I think the final piece to the puzzel is probably to drop another 20 pounds. That would take me back to my weight 40 years ago. Since I am feeling healthy and am active, that doesn't sound too challenging to me and is one of the reasons I'm looking for a bicycle. I've already started by dropping 3 pounds, so it's something I can do.

Caroltoo 2012-01-01 14:28:05 -0600 Report

I've seen a number of posts this morning about cholesterol readings being up and folks concerned about having heart attacks. There is a lot of good information in the links on this post as well as suggestions made by a doctor about how to decrease cholesterol without having to use Lipitor and some of the other meds that can cause serious side effects like muscle weakness. Take a look when you have a chance.

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