Dieting

melissa1987
By melissa1987 Latest Reply 2011-12-29 00:59:13 -0600
Started 2011-12-18 11:51:31 -0600

I find it very hard to eat and I do not want to get fat… I gained 15 pounds in 3 and a half months… I like the size I am now but I don't want to get any bigger… I was wondering I know it sounds so stupid but like can u just control ur surgar by drinking regular Pepsi when your surgar is down? Or do u have to eat? It's hard to eat healthy because I live with my parents n they do not understand and I don't think they care …I keep saying im gonna start working out but never stick with it and I don't see the point. I called the diabetic clinic and asked them should I lower my insulin to work out n she said no just eat cookies if u notice lows.., confused or what! I think a pop diet would work! ?


25 replies

LindseyLou993
LindseyLou993 2011-12-29 00:59:13 -0600 Report

Pepsi would be ok, but the problem is that it is simple sugar. I was taught by my endo to have a piece of candy (something without protein, like a few starbursts or an air head) and a carb that breaks down slower (i.e. pb crackers, a piece of bagel w/ cream cheese, etc.). I prefer to eat something like a cookie or a few bites of ice cream because it has more nutritional value that a piece of candy or glucose tablet and I actually lost about 15 pounds when I became diabetic (I'm trying to gain it back! Injections hurt when there's not enough fat!)

sadi23
sadi23 2011-12-23 22:04:32 -0600 Report

What pills make ya gain the most weight? are there ones that you could loose weight on? & vitamins give a good list if you could? thanks so much Type 2

2011-12-23 01:45:43 -0600 Report

When my b/s was at it's extreme lowest 20(@ it lowest. Barely conscious) Paramedics told my Mother to give me a regular Coke w/sugar in it to raise my b/s, while he was standing there to see what the outcome was. After I consumed it,my b/s dropped even more, and it was off to the ER via ambulance. When your sugars drop that low, (well @ least mine) veins start to collapse & pop. Like a needle popping a balloon. But I have given up on eating, & so far, so good.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-23 23:00:32 -0600 Report

Annalease,
That is such a terrifying picture. I am so sorry you had this experience. It's hard to imagine my veins popping and collapsing. In fact I shuddered as I typed that.

I like the comment "so far, so good", but how are you getting nutrition if you aren't eating? I remember you saying you are vegan so your food sources are good but limited. I'm so glad to hear you are feeling better now.
Carol

2011-12-24 00:12:02 -0600 Report

Still am a vegan. (It's not that I don't want to eat meat,(4 the same reasons that a veg doesn't want 2 eat meat. It's just that I never liked meat. Growing up I'd rather would've had a plate full of veggies,than have anything to do w/meat. Just don't like it.) However, getting back to the other whenever I go into a hypoglycemic episode, my veins always pop. It's due to the fact that there is no natural insulin coursing thru them. But I always have trouble in the lab when I need to have my blood drawn. I have tiny veins, which roll and then they play an awesome game of hide ~n~ seek. Nothing to be scared of. I just wish that I could feel when the insulin gets that low. But I can't. And now that my pancreas went on strike, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Just live w/it. I guess.

Young1s
Young1s 2011-12-24 21:18:52 -0600 Report

Annalease, I had no idea things were this way for you. Stupid question. Have you been talking to your doctor about this? There has to be some kind of suggestions he/she can give you. Or maybe you can pose a/the question to "Ask The Experts". Maybe they will have some ideas that your doctor hasn't thought of yet. Just to get a fresh perspective on things. I can't imagine you aren't eating at all, what are you eating/drinking to sustain yourself?

KellyJo76
KellyJo76 2011-12-20 11:32:45 -0600 Report

Use glucose tablets. They have fewer calories and work faster than soda. Then eat something small with some protein. I eat string cheese. That little bit of fat and protein stabilizes me for a lot longer. Regarding the workout, if your blood sugar is below 100 when you are getting started, eat a protein bar (with 15g of carbs) and don't take any insulin. If you are doing 20-30 minutes of rigorous activity, you should be fine. Check your blood sugar when your done.

w8chd
w8chd 2011-12-18 23:57:43 -0600 Report

Drinking Pepsi or something like that is ok but it is a sugar that while it acts fast, it goes away fast as well. If you aren't going to be able to stop and eat right away you need something more than a liquid. The possibilities are endless as to what you can eat to combat a low bg. I know exactly what you are talking about with the weight gain. I gained 30 pounds my first three months with insulin.

digitaldoorbell
digitaldoorbell 2011-12-18 19:52:42 -0600 Report

If this is a current picture, you have nothing to worry about. You look great. As noted here, how you feel is much more important anyway. Have you tried Zevia? It is carbonated (like Pepsi or Coke) made with stevia. It is great and you can drink it without concern for weight gain or BG spikes.

Good luck to you.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-18 16:01:34 -0600 Report

Hi, Melissa.

You like your current weight and do not want to lose or gain. That's good and means you will need to adjust your food intake, exercise, and insulin to balance each other. Sounds easy…but it isn't.

Now, think with me a little on this one. Calories cause weight gain. Roughly, each 3500 calories that we eat and don't use through exercise, puts on another pound. If your BG goes low because of your insulin dosage, and you drink soda, you have perhaps solved the BG decrease temporarily, but you have increased your calorie count. That means you will gain weight which you have said you don't want.

You stated that you can't see the point in working out. If you are happy with your size and shape, I can see how you came to that conclusion. There are other issues involved though. Exercise helps all of our bodies to function better. At 24 you are at a peak in function. You can maintain that peak longer, if you exercise and help your body. Today, it may not matter to you; at 34 or 44, when you have some extra pounds and are feeling fatigued, you may wish you had made another choice.

Also, exercise (min 20-30 min 4-5/week) can increase your sensitivity to insulin so you can use less and less to achieve the control of your BGs that you need. What you inject is a foreign substance and you don't want to have to use more than you really need to.

You also mentioned a few posts ago that you use Benzos and asked if that could affect you. If you are among the 95% of the world's users who find Benzos to have a sedative effect, it is possible it affects your digestion by decreasing the activity (peristalsis) in you intestines. That leaves food undigested in the stomach and intestines longer and, as a result, also slows the increase in blood glucose levels following eating. Most of us go up sharply 1.5-2.0 hours after we eat. If your high is slower than that, the Benzo could be an issue.

If your question was really the very simple one of can you drink your sugar instead of eating it, the simple answer is yes and it may it even work faster than eating sugar. Do go read the discussions on soda pop that are posted on this site, then decide if you want to use something so potentially harmful to your body and digestion or, at least, find a more healthy fluid. A couple of swallows of orange juice would probably accomplish the same thing and give you a few needed vitamins.

Why don't you sit down with mom and try to explain in a neutral, calm setting how important it is for your health for there to be more healthy foods in the refrigerator and cupboard. Maybe you can offer to help with the shopping, or at least go with her. Could you plan some meals together? Could you take mom to an appointment with your diabetic educator…anything that would give her more information and get her on your side? She could be a powerful ally. I'm sure she wants what is best for you, but has no idea how to help. Maybe you could share some of the Diabetes Lifestyle articles from the site with her.

Is she diabetic? If so, and she does not care for herself, this probably feels like you are attacking her…it is threatening to her…she can't hide any more from her own lack of self-care. That will be touchy. Frequently, a good way to deal with this is to join with her, instead of fighting her. Something like: Mom, I want you and me to work together to be more healthy. Would you be willing to help me?

Hope something in here gives you something to think about. Good luck, Melissa.

Carol

melissa1987
melissa1987 2011-12-18 21:47:50 -0600 Report

Thank you… Good information .. I have 1 more question do u have to eat b4 u go to bed? I know your supposed too but I really don't want to gain anymore weight. I am just back to my normal size now n I want to stay in shape n eating b4 u go to bed makes you gain weight.. If my sugar is in a good range say 5 or 6 can I skip it?

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-18 22:40:32 -0600 Report

I usually eat something so that I don't get early morning BG spikes. I am loosing weight, so careful of what I eat also. You would need something low calorie that also helps stabilize your BG. My usual bedtime snack is one piece of Mozarella low-fat string cheese. If I'm having trouble sleeping, I may have a glass of milk because calcium in milk helps us sleep. If my BGs are high for me, I will have a very lean protein snack like 2-3 bites of chicken. My snacks are small, probably 100 calories or less. Most doctors and dietitians will suggest something closer to 300 calories or 15 carbs.

I'm avoiding quoting a BG number here because it sounds like you may be outside the US and using another system. For me, normal BG is 80-110 with a postrandial reading of 140 or less. You are using a single digit system that I don't recognize though I think the last time I heard it quoted, it was someone from Canada. I think our comments are valid, regardless of the numbers.

Set apart
Set apart 2011-12-20 05:45:51 -0600 Report

Great numbers! Another idea on this is to remember that insulin is almost natural for our bodies after all it is what our bodies used to take care of on their own. I trybto stay balanced by eating at the same times and if I feel hungry will eat veggies in between meals. My carb count is less than 45 grams of carbs per meal. I have lost 5 lbs in 4 months without trying. The idea is to try not to spike and to take your insulin at the same times. I am very sensitive to insulin and I do exercise and you guys are right it's all about taking care of it. If I get low a good snack for me is 1/2 apple with a bit of reduced fat peanut butter, it's good and it covers the carb and protein. Good luck Melissa! Remember we don't eat different than others we just eat what everyone else should be eating!! Encourage your parents to get on board with you a healthy diet helps everyone and I guess part of our roles will always be to educate others It's very important, take your mom with you to your appts. Blessings!

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-19 12:20:53 -0600 Report

Thanks, James. I subscribed to the magazine too. Looks very interesting. Now do you have a similar referral to a usable form of the Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load information? I spent quite a bit of time googling that yesterday and found lots of misleading enties that didnt have the information and several others that I had to buy.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-19 12:52:59 -0600 Report

Thanks, I did stumble on that one late last night. When I put in broccoli, it gave me beef stew with brocolli. I didn't play with it long enough to see how to get what I wanted. I do now. Thanks.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-12-19 13:03:35 -0600 Report

I gotta play with mine too. I couldn't find Yams today. Once I play with it a bit I will undoubtedly get the hang of it.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-19 13:57:04 -0600 Report

Yam, Puerto Rican, is on the last page of the potato listings. Gezz, I had no idea there were so many ways to fix white potatoes. When I entered Sweet Potatoes, I got a 2 page listing from somewhere—don't recall seeing it in the vegs-other and it wasn't with potatoes/root vegs. Mystifying.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-12-19 12:11:03 -0600 Report

I used to be also, but since I found that (and saved it on my computer) I an no longer blind in that fashion again. Even if I knew the math formula, I have "discalculia" and have trouble with figuring numbers. This is SO much easier!