Loosing the weight

By meowbat Latest Reply 2011-12-07 06:57:23 -0600
Started 2011-11-30 05:33:25 -0600

I've got a ??? How did you, that have lost the weight, do it???? I take my meds, eat like a bird, have regular severe bouts of the runs because of the meds and stay away from fatty food, fried food, sugar, pop, candy, white bread, beef, almost anything any normal person can eat. since being diagnosed i've GAINED not lost. Any answers? Suggestions? Help!!!!——-Meowbat

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valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-12-03 19:14:55 -0600 Report

Dear Meowbat: First, let me ask you…do you take insulin? Because that will put weight on you. Metformin will give you the runs espically the way your eating.
Virtually, nothing…I have lost 30 #'s now, 3 this week alone and I take metformin, 500gr. 2xdaily. And I have to use insulin. I gained quite a bit until my
nutritionist turned me on to the Mediterranean Diet. My Dr. highly approves. You have to make some adjustments of course to fit into our way of eating. IE: Breakfast being the best protein packed meal of the day. Your probably not eating enough carbs to keep your energy up, which we need. I eat between 75 to 100 carbs a day. But their good carbs. I only eat red meat 1 day a week, if that. If you cae to hear more just post me I'd be happy to answer any questons you might have. Until then, please don't panic…there are literally many people trying to reach out to you, including me. Many Blessing wished for you…Hugs…
Valentine Lady

meowbat 2011-12-04 02:41:11 -0600 Report

I would love to hear about this diet! Hope its not one you have to buy, we don't have the funds for that. We even have to budget the TP. I've got that figured to 12-6 roll-Dollar General packs a month will just get us by. I take Metformin 1000 x2 daily and it has me running. hence the TP budget. If we can afford it and it works. I can adjust to anything. Yesterday was Quay's payday and and he brought food home from a local restaurant that's owned and run by a family full of diabetics. she prepares our food fresh and "special". It was so good and so much I could only eat half(froze the other half for tomorrow). I ate yesterday like what you all would call NORMAL. I suffered for it. could not sleep at all 'til after 5 this morning. then I've been out of it all day. tummy turned into a gas tank… and then… well, i don't know where that all came from, but I didn't eat that much. took meds, ate Chinese, I'm back to MY normal. I would love to have a different version of normal. So, my dear Valentine Lady, Bring it on I'm all ears! thanks—-Meowbat

SKR73 2011-12-03 16:19:14 -0600 Report

My dear friend my best advice is that please from today Love yourself, people gain weight due to stress i saw so many people who do workout but still cannot lose weight, medicine can help but every medicine have a side effects which can weaken your body depression and stomach cramps, anxiety, nerves problems and tendered muscle. Eat healthy do not eat too much, join any good gym if you can afford traine go for it because you are speacial also take 1 tablet of B complex 100 a day during meal and 1 Tab Omega 3 6 9 and vitmain D, cinemon tea helpS to control your BG. Good luck

meowbat 2011-12-04 02:46:13 -0600 Report

Thank You! Completely agree, all of the above. Have to move to have a gym. and the supplements don't exactly fit in the budget right now. but that too will change hopefully soon.

ccsp 2011-12-03 12:20:13 -0600 Report

I meant below that Metformin can cause the "runs".

meowbat 2011-12-04 02:49:58 -0600 Report

Yep, every single day. its sooooo much fun. and I don't like the way it makes a person smell.

jayabee52 2011-12-03 16:46:59 -0600 Report

Howdy CCSP. WELCOME to DiabeticConnect! (sorry you qualify for inclusion in our little "family" here)

Since you are new to the site, perhaps I could share with you a "house-keeping" tip or two.

In postings you post there is are two little links under each one. One says "reply" (which everyone sees) and also "edit" which only you see.

When you notice a mistake in your posting after you've posted it may click on "edit" and the posting opens up with EVERYTHING in the post highlighted. click on the post and the highlighting goes away (if you try to type with everything highlighted the whole post goes away) Then you find the mistake and highlight just what you want to change and type your changes and then click the "button" saying "post reply" below the posting.

If you happen to double post what I have done is to click edit and then type a period (.) in the highlighted text.

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I hope this has been useful.


(ps there should be a friend invite on your profile, please accept it)

ccsp 2011-12-03 12:17:47 -0600 Report

First, if you have not seen a Naturopathic doctor, I would suggest that you do that. The ND has made changes that an MD would never think to make. Also I tell my MD that I am using an ND to consult and Guide on Diabetes treatment. If the MD and ND don't agree to work together find different doctors. The ND has me using supplements along with Metformin (this can cause the runs). The ND also told me to eat a hand full of nuts before going to bed at night and it has reduced my morning blood sugars by over 50 points. They have been the most help to me over the past three years. Second, you need to add exercise. I started with 30 minutes of cardio 3 to 4 times a week. I did not make any real gains until I added weight training (I do it at home with dumbbells and a weight bench). Since then I have lost 21 lbs. in the last year. Third, don't cheat your self out of a small treat, like dark chocolate, once in a while. Fourth, learn to read food labels for good and bad stuff. That has also been a great help.

meowbat 2011-12-04 03:00:07 -0600 Report

all good advice. 2 points of interest; what kind of nuts? I am deathly allergic to walnuts and coconut anything. I like peanuts, almonds, and cashews but won't pay the $ for them. eat lo-cal, no sugar peanut butter and that $ is almost out of sight. I do exercise what little I can at home. would rather swim but have to move to do that. every thing else we do.

MetalCohen 2011-12-03 10:55:51 -0600 Report

It's a combination you will have to find your "comfort zone" Also if taking Thyroid Meds, wait an hour before & 1 hour after food !

meowbat 2011-12-04 03:03:42 -0600 Report

my bottle says 1 or more hours before or 3 hours after. it's been almost 2yrs since diagnosis and i don't think i'll ever have a comfort zone.

medic673b 2011-12-02 19:20:40 -0600 Report

yup i power walk 5 miles a day and on sat ride about 15-20 miles on my mountain bike. and i am down from 252 to 228 in about 2 months i still have 33 pounds to lose

MoeGig 2011-12-01 20:13:22 -0600 Report

After spending 46 years trying to figure out how to lose weight as a Type 1 diabetic taking insulin, I've come to the realization that it is relatively simple. You simply have to cut out all carbs and don't worry about consuming protein and fats. The Atikin's type diet is easy and effective. A more complete description of what I did is at this link…(I'm not selling anyting). http://typeonediabetic45.blogspot.com/

Good luck.

MrsCDogg 2011-12-02 18:00:40 -0600 Report

I'm beginning to think you are right about the carbs. I've been on insulin just over a year and have gained about 60 lbs and the only thing that has changed is the carbs. I now have to eat more carbs due to the insulin. If not I get really bad lows. So I'm just wondering if I need to go back to the Atkins type eating plan.

medic673b 2011-12-03 00:18:21 -0600 Report

if your able to walk if you walk for however long yu can stand it i have found it cuts down on my appttite plus it helps speed up metabolisim i usually walk 5 miles before i eat

meowbat 2011-12-03 05:29:12 -0600 Report

Good advice, but for me the appetite is not the problem. Finding out what's holding up any weight lose is.

MoeGig 2011-12-02 21:33:14 -0600 Report

You are absolutely right…and when you adapt back to the Atkins plan, you will have to reduce your insulin intake to "match up". You have to become your own Doctor and "juggle" the variables yourself. It's really not that complicated…Good luck. Looks like you're on the right track. My good friend jayabee52 below thinks the goal is to eliminate the need for insulin. I don't have the same goal…insulin is a natural substance your body needs, and if your body can't produce it, then inject it…it's no big deal. The main objective to stay healthy is to maintain an A1c in the 6's and maintain a body weight somewhere near where you should be. Whatever it takes to get there doesn't matter…

jayabee52 2011-12-02 18:09:51 -0600 Report

could you lower the insulin (with Dr's help, of course) and lower your carb intake? Seems like a vicious circle! I got out of the circle and radically redesigned my eating plan and — with Dr's knowledge — discontinued all diabetes meds including insulin. I manage my diabetes by what I eat and don't eat (any and all breads and baked goods) and portion control of what I do eat. I lost about 50 lbs since Feb 2011 on my meal plan.

Caroltoo 2011-12-01 19:30:47 -0600 Report


Thanks for describing the situation a little more. It helps.

I find loosing weight to be a careful balancing act. I have to eat less, be sure my BG are low enough so that my body processes food effectively, and move more than I was when I wasn't trying to lose weight.

If I eat too little, the body goes into starvation mode and holds onto all the nasty little fat cells like it doesn't think I'll ever feed it again. That doesn't work. Too much exercise, produces a similar response for similar reasons. If my BG is up, I can't loose weight no matter what else I do. So for me, that's the first focus. Also, I usually take vitamin supplements, but am really careful to do so when trying to loose weight just in case the reduced food intake affects nutrition.

Exercise has also been a puzzle for me. I was a very athletic child/teen/young adult/adult. Then in 1994, I broke two of the ventricular processes of L5 (major weight bearing vertebrae of the lower spine). I was immobile for over two months. I hurt for years and I became inactive and gained weight.

I've gone to an orthopod who gave up and offered to send me to a psychologist to learn to live with the pain since he couldn't figure out how to make it go away. Bodies are complex, so I didn't hold that against him. I just couldn't figure out what good a another psychologist would do for me: I'm married to one, I have similar training myself, and am very positive in my attitude and expect good things in my life. I declined and selected a chiropractor to work with me. I made great improvement over the next couple years. Since then I've maintained with a few visits a year and worked on specific muscle related issues with therapeutic and cranial massage.

Now I shared this because of the similarities. I too have been in an accident, I've had times when I dragged one foot while walking, I've also been in severe pain. So how to exercise. I got a Cardiofit machine…relatively small, fits in an apartment…which I could use at home. It exercises upper body primarily, but as you feel better also can be used to strengthen the lower body. The more I worked the upper body, the stronger I felt. It began to build. I kept on. When I'd hurt my lower back, I'd rest and do less for a while. Eventually, I began to walk short distances. Then I walked longer distances. Now I do 3 miles a day, mostly walking, but some jogging.

If you don't have room for a machine, you might try some stretch bands, medicine ball, hand weights, any routine that will help you to start building muscle strength. As the muscles strengthen, you will be able to do more and try different types of more challenging exercise. As you become more muscular, your body will be more efficient in it use of food, and you will lose weight.

Sorry. Long answer, but it's really a complex situation.

MrsCDogg 2011-12-02 18:06:08 -0600 Report

Wow! After my latest trip to see my doc I really needed to read your reply. Thanks so much for sharing!

meowbat 2011-12-01 23:42:23 -0600 Report

Long A is better than no A!!!! I really Don't think that I'm starving by any stretch. Of course I could be wrong, but we eat A small breakfast, an adequate lunch, a normal dinner, and I have a small snack with my late PM meds. I don't feel hungry like I used to before and I don't have all the cravings like before and I'm not thursty 24/7. I think the problem is thyroid. and when we get moved the exercise problem will be solved. the thyroid. DN, RLS, and water retention, and fatigue are my worst enemies right now. What's funny is because of the RLS and the DN the lower half of my body is never really at rest or still. It's like doing calisthenics and isometrics on a constant basis. so much fun! Well GRINS&HAPPYS Meowbat

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-01 10:33:04 -0600 Report

meow your body thinks it is being starved so it is storing what it needs to survive. You still have to eat when dieting. I once lost weight on a 1000 calorie a day diet and was never hungry. When I was diagnosed, I ate a grapefruit cup, a boiled egg, or Cream Cheese on Tuscan Herb crackers and coffee for breakfast, I had carrots for a morning snack with water. For lunch I had chicken salad with whole wheat crackers and a sugar free jello cup. For dinner I baked, broiled or grilled any meat added veggies and sugar free mousse. I lost 60lbs in 3 months. My exercise was easy. My office was in the front of the building, the copier was in the back. I walked about one city block 6 to 7 times a day going back and forth to the copier. I had to go upstairs to the other copier which was the same walking distance with steps if the one downstairs was broken or being used. Because I don't drive, I walked 3 blocks to the bus stop and 3 blocks home from the bus. I think for some the word diet means to starve to death. When you don't eat enough food during the day, you cause your body to go into starvation mode and because it is storing what it needs to survive, you won't lose weight. My advice, eat proper meals add exercise and you will lose the weight. My goal is to get into a Lady Gaga outfit…LOL

Kelley Fields
Kelley Fields 2011-12-01 11:17:24 -0600 Report

This post is so true…Lady Gaga!! LOL
I have to remember to eat even when my sugar is high…it's part of the process to get my sugar levels corrected. Especially in the morning…if I wait to long before eating something my body does think I forgot to feed it.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-01 12:20:01 -0600 Report

Kelley with the job that I have that will end this coming Tuesday, part of my job duties was to be in the field with our peers. There were times I could not stop to eat and often didn't have the time to eat until I got back to the office. The snacks helped some but not enough. My boss hired someone to replace the person who had quit. She asked me why I didn't take the job. I told her I could not be out in the heat for long periods and I was missing meals. This woman holds an RN and a Masters in Nurse Education and teaches nutrition classes. One would think she would know this since she knows I am diabetic. I will miss not having a job but I think this is a blessing. I don't have to worry if I will have to go out in the field and I won't have to worry about having time to eat.

MrsCDogg 2011-12-02 18:07:59 -0600 Report

I was a CNA for more than 25 years. I miss being active. I'd love nothing better than to be able to clean house and not have to take hour breaks.

meowbat 2011-12-03 05:36:14 -0600 Report

At least you can clean house. I can't stand up long enough to even help make a dent in it. everything I help my husband with I have to sit to do. I hate it. things take so much longer to do now! somedays I just feel worthless

meowbat 2011-12-01 17:22:16 -0600 Report

Joyce, I would love to be as active as you are. However, this body does not comply with my wishes. I can only do small exercises in the apartment and there is not much room for that. About your dog, I am happy for you and anyone else who has a four footer in the family. We just lost our BoomBoom one month ago Wed. we had loved him since the day he and his sisters and brothers were born 5/31/1999. He was the first born and the last to leave us.He was a home trained service dog, our big baby and gentle, beautiful giant.

Caroltoo 2011-12-01 17:34:27 -0600 Report

Kat: could you tell us a little more about your limitations, then maybe the suggestions could be more helpful.

So sorry about BoomBoom. Our 4 legged friends are such an important part of our lives and so wonderfully supportive. My big cat folows me around from room to room all day long. Whenever I look up from whatever I am doing, there he is … usually sleeping, but only a few feet away.

He is a humane society kitty who was displaced when someone in the military deployed. His first act in our home was to run across the living room, jump on Wayne's lap, stand up and put one front paw on each shoulder, then drop his head against Wayne's neck. Needless to say, he rapidly became an integral part of the family.

meowbat 2011-12-01 18:46:28 -0600 Report

Well, I was in a car crash in 1974 when I was almost full term with our first born. back then they didn't x-ray or anything else if you were pg., not unless you were headed to the operating room. my back was damaged but we didn't know how badly. our son was born, weeks late because the damage to my back didn't allow me to dilate at all. I had to have an emergency c-section. 1&1/2 yrs later our daughter had to arrive the same way. My back didn't act up for nearly 30yrs. I had other medical problems, but nothing unusual for a woman of my age who worked hard. in 2000 my spine and legs started acting up. I fell going up stairs, had trouble lifting my legs. tripped over things i knew were there, my feet just didn't clear them. my knees started going out and my feet ankles and legs started swelling. Doc sent me to the same orthopedic specialist that saved Quay's leg. He sent me to a sports med doc who found the degenerative disk disease. he put me on pain meds that i didn't like and did nothing. then he started giving me epidurals to quiet the nerves so i could still work and walk. this worked wonders until i no longer had insurance 6 yrs ago. only big problem, all the time i was getting the shots the spin had gotten progressively worse. by the time the feeling came back completely the damage was so bad i walked like a ruptured duck. there was an accident at work that effected my heart.they laid me off and i went back to food service, that only lasted a holiday season. we moved and it was 1yr before i found work again. by this time i wasn't doing well at all. i pushed myself to keep working until they laid a bunch of us off.finally 2 yrs later i got a good dr. she listened to me . tested for "D" and much more. you will find my list on my profile this has been a long uphill battle. Still fighting don't intend to stop. can thankfully use all the help that's offered.

ccsp 2011-12-03 12:26:32 -0600 Report

Seriously, try Chiropractic and Acupuncture. Find a good one of each and the improvement will amaze you. By the way, I am not either but I, my children and grandchildren have all experienced amazing results from either or both depending on the medical issue.

meowbat 2011-12-01 16:57:41 -0600 Report

Joyce, as you well know, for some people(bosses), it's all about what you can do for them to make them look good. No matter what it does to you. glad your getting away from that.

Kelley Fields
Kelley Fields 2011-12-01 13:27:07 -0600 Report

I am glad you are on your way to better you. Remember we are all at different levels with our diabetes so don't hold back from sharing what works & doesnt work for you even with an RN. So what kind of field job do you have? I am on the go a lot also. Are you going to look for a new job?

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-02 08:07:56 -0600 Report

OOPS forgot to ask what you do that requires you to be on the go a lot and what you do to maintain your blood sugar? Thankfully I am on a one month break from community activities so that cuts down on my having that to do. I am also the Vice President of my community association, President of the Community Police Community Relations council and somehow got on to the "A" list of other activities. I have been invited to the Mayor's Inauguration and Ball, the Police Districts Xmas Party and the Mayor's Holiday Open House. I won't be able to go to any because the Inauguration is on my last day of work and my sister and I have a jewelry business and I can't be away on Saturday's. This is our busy season and I am making jewelry for a festival in two weeks. I need a clone…lol

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-03 18:10:11 -0600 Report

LOL nope never been married. I was an EMT Volunteer for 10 years and my favorite cousin is an officer. Why do you ask?

meowbat 2011-12-04 03:23:38 -0600 Report

my husband is a service brat that has 20+ yrs of Fire service under his belt. started on the bumper right after Viet Nam. Then Lt, EMT(the old school he was a Marine medic in Nam), Cpt, City Fire Marshal, city, county and state code inspector, writer of several sections of National Fire Code, taught at the National Fire Academy, retired as a State Fire Marshal (licensing and enforcement specialist), Your post sounded like old home week to me! and yes you do need a clone.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-02 08:02:07 -0600 Report

I agree we are all on different levels with our diabetes. What works for you may not work for me then again it might work for someone else. However, in listening to what others are doing, we may be able to modify what someone else is doing to make it work for us. I almost know what will and will not work for me. For instance, I discovered that eating 6 small meals a day as my nutritionist suggested didn't work while I was at work or when I wasn't at work. I felt as though I was eating all day and it got on my nerves. So I eat 3 meals a day and use snacks between meals. This works out fine for me.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-02 07:54:07 -0600 Report

Medicaid is in the process of moving residents in Nursing Homes out of them and back into the community. They have all kinds of assistance in place to assist those who need it if they choose to leave. Also in place are caseworkers to meet with the resident to determine if the resident can actually leave a facility. This means that even if the resident says yes they would like to leave, they may not be able to do so based on the level of care they require. Our job was to train people with a disability who had previously lived in a Nursing Home and transitioned back into the community and were living on their own or with assistance. They then visited facilities to talk to the residents whose names were given to us from a database. Once the form was completed, I put the information into the database. The first 6 months I went with them and their Coordinator. Once she quit, I had to do it until someone else was hired. It was fun to do but it took a toll on me not being able to eat properly. It also made it harder to keep my blood sugar in control but I managed to do it. I am looking for another job and have friends on the look out also.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-02 15:54:19 -0600 Report

Carol we did have a lot of fun even if at times we were tired. I relished my days in the office so I could get my work done.

Caroltoo 2011-12-02 17:37:22 -0600 Report

I know the feeling. My last position was teaching army moms and dads how to parent better. It was such fun and much time spent in the field, then back in to do my paperwork and the unit supervisory paperwork. Made for a few late nights since the contractor didn't seem to understand how much paperwork they actually were asking for.

meowbat 2011-12-01 02:20:52 -0600 Report

Thank you all for all the info and good suggestions and feedback! I wish I had found this site much earlier. You help my heart cope. Thank You——Meowbat

pixsidust 2011-11-30 09:56:33 -0600 Report

I think you should listen to Nick. You do have to feed your body or it starves and stores. You can have beef. I also made myself a turkey burger last night. Some meat you must cook in a skillet vs bake or steam. You watch not having breaded items that soak up grease or the obvious bacon/sausage and some lunch meats like bologna that are almost all fat. Lean meat can be consumed and pan fried. I barely had any fat come out of the turkey burger because I bought lean. The trots will go away as you get used to your meds. I am really not a soda drinker but once in a while will have a diet soda. Find some balance and a schedule to eat. Get some exercise in there too. Get to feeling better!

meowbat 2011-12-01 01:05:39 -0600 Report

Thanks for the Feedback, Pix! As I stated earlier, I'm an ex chef trained in special diet menu and cooking process. My husband and I have been following Doc's orders and nutritional guidelines as closely as our income will allow. WE're on $139/mo food card and that doesn't go far. but we are thankful to have that. Quay was diagnosed as a pre-D 40+ years ago in the service. He changed his diet, increased his exercise, and lost over 200lb. MY D went undiagnosed for an unknown # of years. I also have other health problems in the mix. I have been on these meds for almost 2 yrs now. I definitely don't starve myself. WE keep careful track of intake and schedule. My BG stays around 115 avg. the ability to exercise is the biggest problem. there is no place safe to walk here. I can't walk without a walker. there is no gym. there is no swimming(my favorite exercise). I get blood tests this wk and DR on the 7th. I need to loose 150 lbs. I hope for answers there. wish me luck.

Nick1962 2011-11-30 08:36:30 -0600 Report

It took me about 2 years to lose 90 lbs. About 1 lb/week. I followed a modified low-GI diet. One thing you mentioned - you eat like a bird - strikes me. You will need to adequately feed your body or it will think you’re trying to starve it and will conserve anything you eat. Just being alive burns about 1300 calories per day and you need those calories to stay normal and “regular”. I didn’t concentrate on fat or calories, just kept any single food item under 7 carbs, 7 sugars and above 7 protein if possible. If I follow that, usually the fat and calories just fall into place. Ironically, even though carrots area healthy vegetable, serving size can put them over my carb limit. I take in as much protein as possible - beef, chicken mostly, and snack on nuts (unsalted). I never go hungry.
You say you’ve gained and not lost. It sounds like you’re into that starvation mode where anything you eat is being held onto, which is exactly the opposite of what a diabetic should do. We really need to eat to get those carbs we do consume to move through our body efficiently (as fuel) and not stored as sugar.
How much do you have to lose? I had 90 lbs to lose, but try as I might, I can’t get under a certain weight because if I trim my food any further, I go into starvation mode and lose all energy to exercise. This is also usually when irregularity shows up.
I walk daily and that also goes a long way to regular body function also.
Best to you!

meowbat 2011-12-01 01:11:57 -0600 Report

thanks Nick!! If you read my post to Pixiedust, you'll notice all those bases have been covered. I have a feeling all the other stuff is interfering with the ability to reign in the weight. somethings got to give.

Nick1962 2011-12-01 09:07:56 -0600 Report

Thanks Meowbat. Small world - in my past life I spent 20 years as a professional chef (mainly in the health care industry). I was managing 3 hospital food service departments at one time. I really hated those 5:30 a.m. shifts. The worst were the dieticians who couldn’t even cook. Sounds like you’ve got things pretty dialed in, and I’m sure you’ve already experienced the plateaus - weeks were nothing seems to happen then wooosh…a fairy seems to come in and steal 5 pounds overnight. The only other thing I’ve experienced (if it’s not medical or a plateau) is “routine complacency”. There are times with me when my body gets so used to what my routine is that it just maintains. I’m kind of going through that now. Every now and then I’d have to shake things up, like change my meal patterns/foods, bump my meals ahead or back an hour, anything to get out of a routine.
Walking with a walker is exercise in itself. When I broke my leg a few years back, part of my therapy was to “run bases” or walk back and forth across the house. I’d put 50 washers on the kitchen table and 50 nuts on the other side of the house. I’d take one nut and exchange it for a washer each trip. When the piles were exchanged, I was done for the day.
Yeah, hope something breaks for you soon. I know the frustration. Best to you!

meowbat 2011-12-02 18:30:40 -0600 Report

nice to here from somebody that understands my frustration when considering my past knowledge and experience with special food requirements. also didn't you just love the 5:30 AMs that didn't end 'til the following AM. those were so much fun. My very last position in food was the nutritional services director for an at risk school in NV. All the kids there were from other states and this school was their last chance to stay out of jail. the parents that did visit(few) only did so by appointment. average age was 14 but some were as young as 11(barely) or as old as 19. there were a couple of real (family) trained thugs that thought they were back in their own little hood. Funny thing about getting the right kind of food prepared well, and served in an open and honest manor. It changes people. even the hard core, bad to the bone, self reliant, gang-banger hoodies come around out of the dark side when treated with good home cooked meals. I really enjoyed that job, even though it was very hard on me(I was just starting to become very ill). I was paid quite well, but I earned every single penny. My staff that was supposed to be 8 was actually 3 or 4. 8hrs were usually 14+ but those kids were worth it

Nick1962 2011-12-03 16:54:34 -0600 Report

Oh yeah, those triple shifts were brutal. I miss those days (sure I do). Just before I quit I was bouncing between a 250 bed hospital with a full lock-down psych/behavioral ward, another 50 bed short-term medical care facility in a neighboring community, and a state run mental facility out in the middle of practically nowhere. I had a rotating team of about 35, anywhere from 16 years old to near retirees, and usually short staffed daily. We also catered and did meals-on-wheels every other weekend. I could have steak Diane going out the back door while sugar free pudding and low-sodium soup went out the front. It was a fun challenge sometimes – just what do you feed a 60 year old Kosher diabetic with hypertension? Also had a clinical patient with split personality disorder. One personality had an allergy to strawberries, which she would break out into a rash from, while the other loved strawberry jam on toast for breakfast and suffered no ill effects. For those patients who were capable, we let them order their meals from a limited menu weekly – it gave them a sense of control over their lives. Trouble is we never knew if the same person ordering would be the same one eating in that case. Turns out the allergy wasn’t real, but the rash was brought on by anxiety. Funny what our heads do to us when we’re not in control of them. This was all back around the time the low-GI diet came about (and we could actually smoke in the kitchen – in the hospital). Amazing how far we’ve come with D education and feeding. And yes, I agree, a lot of times the people made it all worthwhile. Even some of the nastiest teen runaways turned into sweet little princesses with a warm bowl of homemade mac and cheese in front of them. I actually made a life-long friend out of the most unlikely person because of a bowl of oatmeal, but that’s one of those sappy warm fuzzy stories no one wants to sit through.

This is really a nice thread, I'm starting to like this place.

meowbat 2011-12-04 03:39:32 -0600 Report

Thank You Kindred Spirit !!!! Finally, I have somebody who actually understands that those kind of all consuming jobs really do exist and that employers are more than happy to use you like super glue if you are capable of the challenge! and we, who enjoy doing can love jobs like that just because of those "sappy warm fuzzies 'cause those are reasons we jumped out of bed after what was minutes of sleep to do it all over again and make a difference in even one persons life with something as simple as food.

Nick1962 2011-12-05 07:43:46 -0600 Report

Oh absoulutely! I'm sure we could drain more than a few pots of coffee swapping stories. If you ever get bored…I'm sure many would love to hear them.

jayabee52 2011-12-03 18:19:15 -0600 Report

DC does tend to be habit forming Nick. I know I have been logging on for over 3 years now. The last 2 yrs almost (but not quite) every day.

And I for one LOVE a "sappy warm fuzzy storie[s]" I have a couple of my own.

Nick1962 2011-12-03 18:36:45 -0600 Report

Yes, yes it does! We may just have to start another "warm fuzzy" thread! To this day I can't help but grin widely and almost shed a tear whenever I hear that Ingrid Michaelson song (you know, the "here take my sweater" song) from an Old Navy commercial few years back.

jayabee52 2011-11-30 08:38:55 -0600 Report

I think you're on to something Nick!

meowbat 2011-12-01 01:17:24 -0600 Report

Thanks jayabee! I know he's right! It's my stupid body that's wrong! My husband says he wishes I had a radiator cap so he could unscrew it and replace the bod with a new one, then put the cap back on! I WISH!!!!

meowbat 2011-12-01 02:03:47 -0600 Report

Ah Yes wouldn't that make everything so much easier?? It does make me think in terms of a droidian world. I don't think we're ready for that one yet!

Nick1962 2011-11-30 09:15:46 -0600 Report

Thanks James. I’ll add I didn’t weigh or measure either, just followed normal recommended portions (usually). If I had a day where I had to miss a “feeding” time (I try to consume as or before I burn) I would make up for it at mealtime and vice versa. Example: Saturday was a special day, we had steak, grilled shrimp, marinated cabbage and green beans (yes, with butter and almonds). I ate 6 of the 8 ounces of steak, and had the leftovers with two eggs the following morning. My wife had her leftovers on a small salad for lunch. Over the weekend though I also walked over an hour each day, raked all my leaves and gave the lawn a final cut. It was a physical weekend (well, for a 49 year old). Monday, back sitting at the computer again, it was back to cottage cheese for lunch and a salad w/ leftover chicken for dinner.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2011-12-01 10:42:13 -0600 Report

Nick I started off weighing and measuring. That bored me to death and added extra dishes to wash. I know the amount to eat now so I just do it. I have a dog but I don't walk him. Kids where I live with Pit Bulls will try to get their Pits to fight other dogs. My dog is a 65lb Husky, Akita, Chow mix and is an alpha male. He is not going to back down and I can't hold him alone. I can't take him to a dog park because a Pitt literally climbed our fence and attacked him so now he is extremely protective of us and won't let other dogs near us. I in turn walk around the block or play with him in the yard. I would love to do Aqua Aerobics but can't afford the fee at the YMCA so I just walk when the weather is good.

Nick1962 2011-12-01 11:32:04 -0600 Report

Yeah, weighing and measuring lasted a whole day with me. Too lazy to do dishes.
Best investment I made years ago was a treadmill, but like most with good intentions it sat idle for years. Any chance you could pick up a used one? Dog could use it too! You do bring up a good point - we all know what we have to do and somehow have to find a way to get it done. I live in a similar neighborhood. We have one pit/boxer mix that always gets out. Looks crazy and mean and will chase you down. Funny thing is once she catches you, she’ll jump on you and lick your face, then drop for a belly rub. And I know what you mean, that husky walks you.
Not to highjack the thread Joyce, but aren’t you the cruise lady? If so, where you off to this year?

meowbat 2011-12-01 01:24:14 -0600 Report

Nice thought. Happy this works for you. However, don't do steak, shrimp is a special occasion meal, I eat eggs sparingly, and most nuts are either a no-no or too$. Exercise that will change when we move.

meowbat 2011-12-01 02:08:40 -0600 Report

Yes James cholesterol does not like me. That's why i take Simvastatin. I get to enjoy a good egg dish 1 maybe 2x a month. thanks for the info

meowbat 2011-12-06 09:50:53 -0600 Report

Do bears ____ in the woods? Yes, and then some. it kind of cancels any need to miss the food.

jayabee52 2011-12-07 00:20:51 -0600 Report

sorry to hear that! Does that happen just with eggs or does that happen with other sources of protein?

meowbat 2011-12-07 06:57:23 -0600 Report

when the problem first presented itself, I could not afford to take a chance with anything that could be considered a cholesterol hazard. now 26 yrs later with so many cholesterol free foods available, I eat both beef and eggs sparingly and take the meds to handle it.

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