Diabetes & Gastritis

By bloomin10 Latest Reply 2011-11-20 16:59:01 -0600
Started 2011-11-19 12:11:39 -0600

Hi, newbie here..T2 for 10+ yrs. w/complications..newest one is gastritis…a game changer & can't seem to find much out there on this & how to manage it with the big D..oral meds aggrivate it..more food limits, ie crackers & ginger ale alot..can't seem to eat most food on meal plan..lost 20+ lbs. ..what's a diabetic to do..any direction/suggestions much appreciated..doctors didn't have much to offer..????

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hughsbayou 2011-11-20 09:33:43 -0600 Report

I've been diagnosed with T2 since April this year. I was put on Metformin and all went well for a few months until in august I had some kind of GI infection, quite severe, but it passed. Thought all was well but then started having recurring milder infections finally culminating in one with fever etc. the Doctor finally gave me some antibiotics and it seems to have cleared up. But along with that I noticed that this can be a side effect of the Metformin. I also have pain in my feet, which is partly due to back injury and partly aggravated by the BG. I had started taking something called Wellness Nerve support formula, which didn't help my foot pain much but I had noticed that it sure improved my BG numbers, like to normal levels! I ran out of it and since it was expensive I looked for the ingredients elsewhere. It's synthetic B-12 and B-1. Found something from a company called Life Extension on Amazon of all places, it's called Mega BEnfotiamine 250 and is both water and fat souble. Got some and started taking two a day and my BG is once again in the normal range most of the time W/O Metformin. My guts are returning to normal as well. I do follow a very low carb diet but that wasn't quite cutting it before. After ten days I am finding I can eat a bit more carb (meaning the whole half a squash with some peas) than I could before and stay normal. I had a Mexican restaurant meal the other night and just had to eat some of the chips and salsa, (I break them into small pieces and eat mostly salsa that way) and that spiked my BG to 160 immediately after eating (1/2 hr) but an hour after that I was back to 98! You're doctor will not tell you about Thiamine as there is virtually no research here in the US. The capsules cost 15 cents each. Nobody is going to get rich on this! That explains why all the research is in the UK where they are always trying to find a cheaper way to do things instead of new ways to prey on the sick, but I digress. Try it, it's cheap and I'm betting it will help. Best of luck.

Caroltoo 2011-11-19 19:24:33 -0600 Report

I found mine was caused by gluten intolerance.

Switching to a gluten free diet wasn't as hard as it sounded and I have done well since making the change. I had taken countless packages of Prilosec with some occasional success, but nothing that would last more than a couple weeks.

A gluten free diet is a bit challenging to wrap your mind around, but if gluten intolerance is actually the issue, it is the only solution.

Unless you are severe enough to test positive on a blood test for Celiac disease (which is as bad as gluten intolerance can get and distroys the villa of the small intestine), there really isn't any way to tell except removing ALL wheat/rye/barley and usually oats (because it is usually prepared in places that prep wheat) from your diet for a few weeks. If it helps, you know what you need to do. If it doesn't, you can go back to the regular diet.

bloomin10 2011-11-19 19:46:35 -0600 Report

Great suggestions, didn't know abt. the oats! Have cut back on whole grains & it helped some, so maybe not the most severe. Thanks so much!

Caroltoo 2011-11-19 20:19:41 -0600 Report

This isn't a situation where you get positive results when you cut back. If you are gluten intolerant you need to stop, otherwise your small intestines continue to be attacked by the antibodies and will eventually progress into Celiac disease where you have very limited ability to absorb nutrients your body desperately needs.

To go gluten free, you must read labels for hidden wheat because it is in so very much of our diet, at least in all prepackaged and many canned foods. Most large stores have a few gluten free options, but the easiest way is to go back to the basics and cook your own.

bloomin10 2011-11-19 20:27:47 -0600 Report

I see, will do the total stoppage..couldn't hurt to try..luckily I have been in habit of using mostly unprocessed for some time, but am sure I must review my cupboards to be safe since I have been using plenty of whole grains..thx again

jayabee52 2011-11-19 19:58:05 -0600 Report

you might want to discontinue eating anything which has wheat/rye/barley flour (and perhaps oats as well) in it, at least temporarily to see if it improves your symptoms. You may have to read the ingredient list on prepared foods to see what it is in it to make your purge of those ingredients from your system complete. If symptoms continue after 2 weeks, then it may be from something else.

bloomin10 2011-11-19 20:30:22 -0600 Report

you & Caroltoo are right, I need to eliminate all gluten, so long to oatmeal for a couple weeks, doing cupboard review now, thx

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-19 16:03:24 -0600 Report

I was diaganosed with gastritis about 2 months ago. It was my body giving me a wake up call because i was in denial about my diabetes and was not managing it correctly.
I have been luck though, the protonix is working for me. The reglan was minimal at best. I had already been taking prilosec for acid reflux. At first they told me to take it twice a day instead of once, but it did nothing for me. I would try and eat something, it did not matter what my stomach would swell up real bad, be hard and very painful. Not to mention the constant nauseas feeling. Sound familiar?

Do you have a severe case of it. I guess my was not severe, but well on it's way if we had not figured it out! I guess that's why the protonix works for me.

I pray you find answers. I know first had how bad this can be. Blessings to you, Mickey

bloomin10 2011-11-19 19:08:03 -0600 Report

swelled up also, miserable, painful. Thank you for your honesty. I also have periods of denial & mismanagement or "slip ups", tho few & far between. Don't like consequences. Protonix does work better than reglan, agreed. Such a quandry with D meds making it worse..But I will NEVER QUIT trying to improve. Thank you, helps to know I'm not alone in my dilema…CUTE baby! Bless you & yours

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-20 01:40:25 -0600 Report

I feel for you! Been taking the protonix for almost a month, and though it is getting better, I still have problems. I was told it takes awhile for the stomach lining to heal.

I'm glad to hear that you are fighting this and not giving up. We are warriors and we fight the fight! We may lose battles, but we will win the war!!! :) Blessings, Mickey
P.S. The baby is my youngest nephew last april on this 2nd birthday! He is so funny!

jayabee52 2011-11-19 18:02:28 -0600 Report

after reading a what i posted as an answer to Blooming I am coming to the conclusion that I may well have gastritis too. Just what I need — another condition to manage! OH WELL! Back to Google!

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-20 01:43:46 -0600 Report

Better have a upper endoscope done to find out! That's how they finally found out that's what i had. If not treated could get a lot worse! I guess it is on the same lines of an ulcer. The white blood cells attach to the stomach lining and the lining gets irritated, then it progresses from there. I was lucky mine was caught before it got a lot worse. They had to biopsy it to make sure it was not cancerous. Thank the Lord it came back negitive! This was my wake up call and started my lifestyle change journey!
Take care friend, let me know what happens!

jayabee52 2011-11-20 08:05:58 -0600 Report

Dear Mickey
I had an endoscope in Nov 2010 when they found my bleeding Duodenal ulcer.
Before I went in to discover that I was throwing up Black emesis. I was plugged up (constipation from my IBS) and so the black tar-like stools didn't start till I was in the hospital (about a year ago — nearly thanksgiving) They did a endoscopy and a colonoscopy at that time.

I currently have a endoscopy and colonoscopy in the planning stages. The GI Doc was waiting for my kidney Dr to give his OK because my kidney numbers gave him cause for concern, so that is currently in the works. I am having intermittent signs of GI bleeding (black, tar-like stools) so I am eager to get it done.

I seem to have noted that the upper GI bleeding occurs after I eat a bowl of chilii, so I think I best avoid that for now. (I so loved chilii!) It takes me a while but I usually figure out what is wrong with me. Correcting it is the hard part! LoL!

They say that it's a great life —— if you don't weaken!
I will tell you what they found.

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-20 16:59:01 -0600 Report

I understand that. It's hard when you don't know what is going on, why you feel sick or you body doing things it shouldn't! I pray they figure out what is going on and can help you with it. Keep me posted friend! Blessings, Mickey

re1ndeer 2011-11-19 13:30:15 -0600 Report

Hi bloomin 10, I found a site that explains gastritis, I will post it here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastritis
Maybe this will help you.

bloomin10 2011-11-19 15:12:16 -0600 Report

Good Info, thank you. However, I really need more on the relationship to diabetes management. The balance of meds & diet goes out of wack & so does BS. Had endoscopy, given prilosec, protonics, reglan, gives only slight relief.

jayabee52 2011-11-19 16:22:59 -0600 Report

Howdy Bloomijng!
WELCOME to DiabeticConnect! Sorry you qualify for inclusion in our little "family" here.

Perhaps this might be more for what you're looking: http://www.diethealthclub.com/blog/diet-for-i... ?

This is just basic, general information. You'll need to adapt it to your own unique situation.

Praying that you can find what you need

Blessings to you and yours


bloomin10 2011-11-19 19:18:05 -0600 Report

James, thank you so much. This link really helped guide me toward better management, control. First time I've seen concrete usable guide to managing these two together. Hope to pay it forward soon. Hoping you DON'T have the G..Bless you back

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