How many of you believe in supplements on a daily basis?

valentine lady
By valentine lady Latest Reply 2011-11-22 17:28:57 -0600
Started 2011-11-16 17:57:39 -0600

I think supplements are wonderful for Diabebtics because through the research I've done or bodies don't produce a lot of supplements on their own anymore. I'm not saying our Diabetes can be reversed, but I do believe we can be healthier for taking them. As an example, I turned in a news article about Vitamin D. It has been found we can no longer absorb sunlight (where we get Vit. D from) so it suggests we use the supplement. Read the news article if you want to know all the details. So what do you think or do you have any suggestions? Just wondering…Valentine Lady

43 replies

donna62M 2011-11-22 17:28:57 -0600 Report

I take omega 3, vitamin D, and glocosamine on a daily basis. Since taking the omega 3's I have halved my BP medication and my skin is showing improvements.

REWART2008 2011-11-22 17:07:12 -0600 Report

I just had a complete physical from my Dr. and he told me I was low on vit. D and now has me taking one vit. D pill a day. Never even crossed my mind, he also told me that that was the probable cause for my lack of energy. I have been taken them for over a month now and it is a night and day difference.

gphx 2011-11-21 17:07:54 -0600 Report

Some of the newer diabetic insulin resistance and cholesterol medications are derived from Alpha Lipoic Acid and Omega 3 fatty acids. Alpha lipoic acid, fish oil, flaxseed oil, and primrose oil have all performed well in studies with few if any side effects. ALA has been shown to improve diabetic neuropathy and is currently being trialed for MS related neuro damage. Seems to me if drug companies could alter water to make it patentable, even if there were side effects, they'd sell it as a high dollar cure for dehydration. Why not go straight to the source.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-21 18:19:14 -0600 Report

gphx: Great information, something I didn't know. Thank you…really enjoyed your remark about water and going straight to the source. True, so true. Valentine Lady

jayabee52 2011-11-21 17:40:09 -0600 Report

And where in your opinion is that source?

gphx 2011-11-21 18:27:31 -0600 Report

I meant the ALA and oils versus the commercial derivatives not a specific retailer. Not sure which one of us you were addressing, sorry.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-21 18:15:54 -0600 Report

jayabee52: I wrote a news article all you need to do is look it up in the news section near discussions. Not just my opionon, but from all the books I've read on diabetes and vitamin and mineral books Thats here my opionon comes from.

jayabee52 2011-11-21 18:26:20 -0600 Report

thanks Peggy I will look up that news article.

I was hoping that gphx would answer my question because it was his question "Why not go straight to the source[?] " For which I was seeking clarification.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-22 12:00:27 -0600 Report

Sorry about that but the message came to me so naturally I thought it was for me. Post direct to gphx, I did…Valentine Lady

hughsbayou 2011-11-21 08:52:46 -0600 Report

I take vitamin supplements everyday, fish oil and cod liver oil plus since I started taking vitamin B1 Thiamine (also called benfotiamine) my BG has become normal. Vitamin D is also important. Some vitamins can be overdone but B1 is non toxic and completely safe. It has something to do with glucose metabolism and diabetics are often as much as 75
% deficient in B1. It's also very cheap. Google Thiamin + Diabetes for information on this. Good luck.

berrykins0 2011-11-21 06:39:07 -0600 Report

i take 2 calicum vitamin d tablets 2 times a day 1 vitimin pill 1 aday and 2 cinnimin pills 1 day.

RosalieM 2011-11-21 08:58:54 -0600 Report

Are you aware that calcium pills do not absorb well? They can end up in your blood vessels and lead to hardeing of the arteries?

Caroltoo 2011-11-21 17:45:57 -0600 Report

Depends on the type of calcium.

RosalieM 2011-11-22 06:40:06 -0600 Report

I am not 100% trusting of many "research" articles written for diabetics. So much of it has been proven untrue over time. Unfortunately because so many of
us are now diabetic, everybody wants to mke money off us. Be carefull!
As for calcium, Vitamin K 2 's job is to take calcium from the blood and put it in the bones teeth. Vitamin K 2 is mostly made by our own good bacteria in our gut. If we are short of vitamin K 2, the calcium ends up in our blood vessels (hardening of the arteries and joints as artherites.)
We can be short of vitamin K 2 if we eat meat from feed lots. They are fed
antibiotics in their daily food. It ends up in the meat and can kill our good bacteria
thus making us short of vitiamin K2. The solution is to eat only grass fed meat or
meat you know has not been fed antibiotics. Label should tell that. In addition
eat a slice of Gouda cheese every day. Gouda cheese produces lacto bacilis
bacteria in the cheese making process. Lacto bacilis bacteria makes vitamin K2.

medic673b 2011-11-20 23:32:01 -0600 Report

I take B12 & VitD religously everyday and than there are others i take daily as well. B12 because Diabetes depletes the B12 in your body and than Vit D. because many of my meds will not aloow me to have very many hours with direct contact with the sun

Type1Lou 2011-11-20 14:35:14 -0600 Report

My endo discovered that I was Vitamin D deficient and prescribed a D supplement (3000iu/day) for me. As I understand it, Vitamin D deficiency is not unusual in diabetics. In addition, I take a daily vision-formula multivitamin, Vitamin C and biotin. I started on the biotin because my fingernails had nasty vertical splits. The biotin has helped harden my nails and minimize the splits although they haven't totally disappeared.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-20 16:38:36 -0600 Report

Type1Lou: Congradulations !!! Another person with smarts. I'm sorry your Vit. D deficient, but your Endo is correct. From my research Vit. D is one of those Vitamins we can not ingest through normal means. It was pointed out by Grace40 the differant foods we can get it from but as I explained to her it's just not enough for diabetics. The rest of your Vitamins are great, keep up the good work. Valentine Lady

Gracie40 2011-11-20 13:56:39 -0600 Report

Vitamins A, D, E, K are fat soluble vitamins and They are stored in the liver when our bodies do not require them. Actually, megadoses of these vitamins can be toxic and lead to health problems. Vitamin A is also known as retinol. We can get it from liver, fish, diary products, and amazingly from some of the beautiful orange and dark green vegetables as well as apricots and cantaloupe. They contain beta carotene and our bodies can turn it into Vitamin A. Anyone watching Dr.Mehmet Oz knows he is a big proponent of certain supplements. But on the whole, most doctors do not even believe in a multivitamin.

george15 2011-11-20 12:35:52 -0600 Report

I use chromium, resveratrol, cinnamon, lecithin(cholesterol),multiple vitamen,fish and flax seed oil.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-20 13:36:06 -0600 Report

Mickey: I just have your best interest in m y heart when I say this, but, please be careful with a holistic doc, your best bet would be to go to a Endocrynologist first and then to a Dietician of his reccomendation. Hugs, Valentine Lady

pixsidust 2011-11-19 00:48:21 -0600 Report

Even though you made a mistake Vitamin D is the vitamin, we get from sunlight. Many are deficient of this vitamin. I have to take it daily. I was taking 50,000 IU's weekly. I now take over the counter vitamin D about 4000 IU daily. Fish oil for lowering cholesterol. Chromium for helping with insulin resistance. Vitamin B complex to help with energy. Vitamin C 3000mg for immunity. Its important and I know it helps. I grew up next door to the Chief of Staff in Pathology at Barnes Hospital, one of the top 10 medical centers in the US. He never gave his family antibiotics but doled out Vitamin C like it was candy. He was way ahead of his time. Doctors from all over the world flew in to train with him. Supplements were a way of life in that family. I am learning about them more now as 2011 being my year of diagnoses and my year to rediscover my health.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-19 11:58:21 -0600 Report

Pixisidust: I'm very proud of you, I take as many as you do with Vitamin A. The problem being, we can spend hours in the sun and our bodies (Diabetic persons) does not absorb enough sun to provide us with the Vit. A we need in our systems. Vitamin D also for that matter, we can ingest it through milk and dairy products, but because we have to watch our carbs we can't get enough Vit. D either, or through the sun either for the same reason as Vit. A. Just learned this myself through the article I found, then did some research on it. I'm convienced. Now we're almost at the end of 2011, it's become the beginning of my year (into 2012) to rediscover my health and my New Year of diagnoses. Good luck to you and me, it's a wonderful adventure, isn't it…Valentine Lady

MEGriff1950 2011-11-17 20:31:53 -0600 Report

I take too many supplements to list here. I start with my Centrum Silver. I will be adding Chromium Pic. tomorrow when I can find some at the store.

RosalieM 2011-11-21 09:15:19 -0600 Report

I am new to this board, I was diagnosed in 1994 after fooling around with various drugs that didn't work, I ask for insulin. Best thing I could have done. I take no supplements or drugs of any kind execpt a sleep aid. I lost 55 lbs twice, now keep it off. I got smart. I am 73 years old and had major back surgery two
weeks ago today. Inspite of being old and diabetic, I am recovering amazing well.
I have never in my life taken vitamins or supplements of any kind. Am I crazy or what? No, I took it upon my self to learn to eat right and took up lap swimming
and weight machines, tread mill etc. I keep very active. I turned what I larned
into a diabetic bakery. Bakery is the biggest offender for diabetics. I learned to make it high fiber and slow digesting. The biggest thing I learned is the diabetic educators do not give helpful information about food. They must follow the
American Diabetes Associations guidlines and that organization has done no
research on food. I called them and ask them and that is what they told me.

Nick1962 2011-11-21 18:18:40 -0600 Report

I’m with Rosalie here (and obviously the minority). When I started my weight loss program, we were told no supplements, and to view them as “false” nutrition. I have full blood work ups each PCP visit (which I pay extra for) and have not been found needing. But, and this is a big but, I have found that many factors affect vitamin uptake. Caffeine, alcohol, medical conditions, sun exposure do affect it. That said, if I find I have a deficiency, I will take them for that alone, but I will not take anything thinking its “good” for me or I “might” need it. Am I lucky I can go without? Probably more than I know, but I think there is a fine line between a supplement and a substitute.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-21 18:25:27 -0600 Report

Nicki: Very good point for you. One are one in a million. By that you domn't need supplements. You didn't mention what type of diabetes you have. For me I have Briddle Diabetes, Type 2 and I need supplements. I strongly believe in them. It's a fact, it shows in my blood work. I iwsh I were you…Valentine Lady

Nick1962 2011-11-22 08:59:09 -0600 Report

Valentine Lady: A very lucky T2. And thank you for the further education - I had never heard of brittle diabetes until today - that has to be extremely frustrating. And yes, I agree, if you have blood work or such that shows a deficiency, then by all means take what is necessary for life. However, I also try to look into the root cause (if there is one) and correct that instead. Example: I was overweight and as a result had high blood pressure. The BP meds I took made me sick with too much sun exposure, thus a vitamin D deficiency. My PCP prescribed the supplement, but ultimately losing weight, lowering my BP, getting off the meds, and getting out cleared that up. That said, my wife (early 50’s) has a severe D and calcium deficiency. No matter how much sun or calcium she intakes, she will not catch up. For her it is a necessity.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-18 13:07:00 -0600 Report

MEGriffi1950: I think that's wonderful…as I stated, as diabetics we can no longer absorb most of the vitamins and minerals the regular person can. Not just my opionon, but fact through reserch. That's sad for us, as some of us can't afford the vitamins and minerals our bodies need. Medicare and Medicade won't pay for them, unless a Doctor prescribes them and many times they won't. Well enough of the band-wagon stuff…hugs…Valentine Lady

RosalieM 2011-11-21 09:17:57 -0600 Report

i doubt that research I have had diabetes for 17 years and never took a suppliment for all of my 73 years. I adopted a healthy diet and exercise
and am very healthy.

jayabee52 2011-11-21 15:58:47 -0600 Report

Howdy Rosalie WELCOME to DiabeticConnect!

Since all people with diabetes (PWDs) are a little different perhaps you are one of the fortnuates who do well without supplimentation or even medications. (in fact your story of your life with diabetes sounds quite similar to my own).

Not everyone is so fortunate.

And just because you haven't noted any defiencies in your nutrition yet, doesn't mean that they will not occur in the future.

Praying for your continued good health and fortune


RosalieM 2011-11-22 07:19:09 -0600 Report

Hi jayabee, Thanks for your response. Since I am 73 years old (old people are
not supposed to absorb well either) if I was going to
have a deficiency, I would have it by now. i must tell you more about myself,
I have been studying foods and it's effect on the body for over 30 years along with exercise etc. I also teach at company wellness gathering etc.
Since becoming diabetic in 1994, I focused on food for diabetics and old people.
I am able to test things on myself. My hunch is that many of the problems with
absorption that diabetics have, comes from the drugs they are given. I would suggest the diabetics on this board, research the effects of the drugs they take,
all of them, not just diabetic drugs. I chose early on to ask for insulin, as insulin
is a reproduction of the natural hormoone insulin. I do not take drugs at all, so
I can test things on myself withoug being concerned about the effect of drugs.
I do take a sleep aid for my insomnia, but that is it. Some supplements have
similar effect to drugs, especially when combined with drugs. I am not an
expert on this, but know it exists.

MEGriff1950 2011-11-18 19:55:12 -0600 Report

I wonder why many drs. do not believe in prescribbing supplements. Maybe they think that we will all get healthy and not need them.
My dr tests my blood once a year to see how my vitamins and minerals are. I had to take 100,000 mg of vitamin D for about a year and a half that was prescription strength. Now I just take 5,000 mg daily. It is only recently that I have been able to start experimenting with supplements. I did get some Chromium Pic. today.

janfran 2011-11-21 06:57:34 -0600 Report

Most Docs don't prescribe anything natural or holistic for two main reasons…1) the drug companies and 2) the FDA. I'm a big fan of Natural everything with a goal to get off meds. I was only diagnosed 3 months ago with T2 and at my first checkup bg down from 356 to 125 and A1C down from 13.1 to 7. I tweaked my diet (mostly Mediterranean having lost 75-80 lbs and kept off) and take an assortment of supps.

RosalieM 2011-11-22 07:25:23 -0600 Report

Good for you Jan Fran, Natural everything is really good, but pay attention to
the variety of foods you eat. Your body can over come some non natural things
like non organic. Liver clears it out. Your body cannot overcome nutrient shortages becaause of lack of variety. Supplements are not a substitute for food
as they do not contain the variety of things in food that work together to make
absorption perfect.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-17 15:21:26 -0600 Report


Heather44118 2011-11-17 11:19:46 -0600 Report

I take a daily diabetic vitamin pack. it is formulated for diabetics and includes 7 different vitamins. it has cinnimon and chromiun (sp???) . and is approved by my team.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-17 15:36:42 -0600 Report

Heather: That's wonderful, keep up the good work. It may not cure us of diabetes, but it sure can't hurt us either. Hugs…Valentine Lady

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-16 18:48:48 -0600 Report

The only supplements i'm doing right now is Alpha Lipoic Acid and cinnamon. Will probably add more after i see the holistic doc.

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-11-17 15:39:15 -0600 Report

Mickey: Be sure to mention Vit. A to him/her. Since our bodies cannot absorb it, it's important we ingest it. Thanks for answering…Hugs…Valentine Lady

RosalieM 2011-11-22 07:27:39 -0600 Report

Valentine lady, would you mind telling me the source of the informatin that
diabetics don't absorb vitamin A. I want to research it further. Thanks

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