Tired all the time

By lisaloo2429 Latest Reply 2011-11-14 11:39:37 -0600
Started 2011-11-08 09:34:37 -0600

I'm finding myself so tired everyday. It's getting harder & harder getting up in the mornings, I lay there and just cry sometimes. I feel like crap everyday - I'm achy, my back and neck hurt and I'm so tired of it. Just needed to vent.

61 replies

Nick1962 2011-11-13 18:19:37 -0600 Report

Lisaloo - Just happened to stumble on this group today, and your post hit home enough for me to sign up. Hope your days are getting better.
I was in a situation similar to yours a few years ago and I can tell you it will get better. In fact, with a little effort it can get great! It just won’t happen overnight.
Have you considered seeing a Chiropractor? I’d recommend it (before you start looking into therapy or surgery or additional meds) – mine saved my life. Much of the pain you’re experiencing may not necessarily be a medical condition like Fibro, or a vitamin deficiency. It may simply be blocked or pinched nerves. I’ll save the background for another time, but after a few sessions, my pain was removed enough for me to get some long overdue exercise. This allowed me to lose about 90 lbs, and along with changing my eating habits, I was able to “dissolve” (as my doctor puts it) my Type 2 diabetes. It’s taken about three years, but the only medication I’m taking is a low dose for cholesterol, and I no longer need to test blood (my A1C went from 9 to 5.2).
Chiropractic care isn’t expensive, and is covered by most insurance plans to some degree (in the long run it’s far cheaper than medication). I would look for one that advertises a “wellness” approach and stay away from the sports type ones. They may or may not be able to do anything about the TMJ, but at the very least, have an initial exam done and you’ll have a road map of what is medically wrong and what’s just your body being imbalanced.
Like I said, it’s taken about three years, but with every positive step forward, my attitude and mood improved – it’s true, healthy body, healthy mind.
Exercise is important. You don’t need to “work out”, maybe just a 20 minute walk at first every other day with a goal to maybe get up to an hour a day 5 days a week. Setting and achieving those goals really gives you a positive outlook - and you will feel better, and the pain will go away. And nobody says those goals have to be the end of the week or month – if you think it will be 4 months, than that’s what it is. I like listening to music, so if you have a music device, pick stuff that makes you happy – it’s motivating – and try to explore new stuff as well. I joke that Rachael Yamagata is personally responsible for 40 of the 90 pounds I lost. If you’re not into music, just use it as quiet time.
Also, as mentioned by pixsidust – give yourself down time. Allow yourself time to decompress. Read, watch some TV, listen to some music and enjoy a glass of wine maybe. If you’ve exercised, consider it a reward.
There is a lot of good information and advice in this thread which really impresses me. I’m sure your post and reaching out is just the first step to recovery and a new life. Let us know how it’s going.

lisaloo2429 2011-11-14 10:00:44 -0600 Report

Thank you Nick for your advice. Congrats on you "dissolving" your type 2 diabetes. I hope I can there myself. I do see a chiropractor but not regularly, those $20 copays start adding up when it becomes a weekly thing. I wish I could go every week but maybe twice a month would be okay and then maybe I could splurge on a massage every couple of months. That really does help me. My attitude is better now and my spirit has lifted w/everyones kind words and advice. I so appreciate you all and being able to talk to ppl that are going through the same thing I am. God love my husband, he tries to fix me when I tell him how I'm feeling and he can't fix me, I just need to be held and be able to cry and get it out.

Nick1962 2011-11-14 11:39:37 -0600 Report

I'm sure, like my wife your husband probably feels frustrated and helpless. Take time to reassure him this will get better as well. Because it will.

Caroltoo 2011-11-14 10:54:46 -0600 Report

Lisaloo: that "I just need to be held and be able to cry and get it out" is so true. Sometimes that seems like the only thing that helps. Glad to hear you are feeling better. Carol

jayabee52 2011-11-13 19:36:17 -0600 Report

Howdy Nick WELCOME to Diabetic Connect!

I noted that you say you no longer need to test your blood. Did you come to this decison on your own, or did a medical professional like a DC tell you to discontinue testing?

You might want to reconsider that and start testing again. Since you have had Blood Glucose (BG) problems before, you may well have high BG levels again before long. You may want to catch it before it gets too bad again.

My A1c is 5.5, (well within "normal" range) and I manage my BG levels by my eating plan alone, without diabetes meds. However, a low A1c does not mean that one's BGs are stable and that they will stay that way for the rest of one's life. At least do a "fasting" BG test when you first get up for the day, before you eat breakfast.

I pray your diabetes stays away for the rest of your life

Blessings to you and yours


Nick1962 2011-11-14 08:47:17 -0600 Report

Thanks James!

No, everything I’ve done so far has been under the supervision of my primary care physician. When I was diagnosed in 2007, I saw him quarterly. I had gone so far as to track my daily BG with an excel spreadsheet and gave him graphs of my progress at each visit. Once I held my numbers to an average of 100 for a year, we decreased testing frequency, after two years we eliminated it. I’m down to only seeing my doctor 2x a year now and have full bloods each time. I also repeat the uptake test yearly, and randomly test if say a pharmacy or local health dept. is offering (about 1x monthly).
Luckily, during this time my chiropractor started a 12 week mini “biggest loser” program/contest which my wife and I won in a tie. She lost 20 pounds in 12 weeks, I lost 18 but more body mass (I exercised, she didn’t). I’ve just aggressively stuck with it. I follow a feeding plan like Kevin’s (Kirla) - a modified low-GI diet. So far, all this has had enormously positive results in both body and spirit. I will still get some short bouts of depression, but I just put on my tennis shoes, crank up some tunes and walk it off.
Thanks again - best to you as well!

Randyh2 2011-11-12 19:20:49 -0600 Report

I went to a specialist for some testing. I believe there is a ten point physical test that the doctor performs on you by touching you here and there and answering his questions. I seem to recall I had eight or more points and then he told me to go home and look up fibromyalgia online and read about it. When mine flares up it's all about bed and stay there! Hope this helps, Randyh2

Randyh2 2011-11-11 21:35:29 -0600 Report

I have too many problems to list them all. With the tiredness it just maybe a mask as to something else not diagnosed. I'm not trying to be morbid. Just need to have all the bases covered. Fibromyalgia can make you tired and not know you have it. It's very painful for some. Best of luck getting it diagnosed! Randyh2

Chad1978 2011-11-10 17:11:53 -0600 Report

If your thyroid levels are OK the next thing you may want to check is if you have sleep apnea. I have thyroid disease plus I had sleep apnea. It was not a very fun combo. I had surgery for the sleep apnea and now I feel like a million bucks. My surgery involved my tonsils being removed and having my deviated septum fixed. It was not a very fun two weeks after surgery, but I'd do it again in a heart beat.

MoeGig 2011-11-10 14:13:42 -0600 Report

You might check to make sure you don't have low thyroid. Many diabetics have both diseases, and the symptom for low thyroid is extreme tiredness, and often weight gain. It took me a while to get it checked and fixing it is very easy…just another pill to take daily.

lisaloo2429 2011-11-10 14:29:50 -0600 Report

My thyroid checked out okay when they ran a bunch of test in September. That's when the diabetese was discovered.

tabby9146 2011-11-10 10:23:37 -0600 Report

sorry to hear that. I have days when I am tired and don't know why, but it isn't too hard to get out of bed, so that is when it is a major concern. Hope you have gone to the doctor, or going I mean, and they can find out what it is. I suppose diabetes can do that. In my case, which wasn't real bad, I learned that cutting carbs as much as I did, my body had to adjust, they told me, and that happened with many who were diagnosed and changed their diet so drastically, but in your case, I am sure it must be something else. Maybe you are anemic? Do you take a multi-vitamin with iron?

tabby9146 2011-11-10 10:24:37 -0600 Report

oh sorry I forgot to mention your pain too, that combined with tired all the time doesn't sound right. I have had lots of aches and pains lately, but in my case, they go away, after applying heat, resting the areas, applying ice, etc…but I am 46 so I guess I am going to have them.

lisaloo2429 2011-11-10 11:07:36 -0600 Report

I am going to walmart today to look at vitamins. I know I need to take sum. I will ask my DR as soon as I can get an appt. Feeling this way everyday has gotten so tiring (emtionally) and draining. But I can honestly say that today was easier to get out of bed than ytd. Maybe exercising everyday for 30 to an hour will help me and my pains. Thanks for all your advice and information. I so appreciate it.

AuntieBear 2011-11-13 00:10:17 -0600 Report

I do not know how much they cost, but Nature Made has a diabetic supplement made specifically for people with diabetes. Plus each bottle of Nature Made vitamins ahs a code and you can enter it on the eweb site and save up for goodies.

tabby9146 2011-11-12 09:52:29 -0600 Report

I hope you are better soon, glad it was better today. Exercise is supposed to help everyone feel less tired, and you get that surge of energy, some time afterward, I have aperiod of rest, then I am charged!! So hopefully that should help. Sometimes I still have to force myself to exercise. Can't wait to get that Wii Fit Plus for myself at christmas, hopefully will be another fun way for me to exercise, besides walking fast outside, and walking on the treadmill, and doing low impact aerobics. I need a third thing that I like.

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-09 19:00:35 -0600 Report

I'm so sorry to hear about the chronic pain! Do you have a pain clinic you can check out? It does not help you if you are in constant pain! I wish there was something i could tell you that would help. the only suggestion i have is tylenol has a pain patch that warms up and i love them! they are pricey, but they work good! you leave it on for 8 hours and i get relief when i use them. I have a bad back that flares up on me. I pray you find some help with this. Blessings, Mickey

buffy360 2011-11-11 00:23:05 -0600 Report

Still haven't seem them in NW though saw commercials months ago.

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-12 21:03:28 -0600 Report

I get mine at wal-mart. Sometimes stores will take a request. There are bigger ones for your back or larger areas and there is a smaller one. Maybe they will order it for you. I really like them! Good luck

lacat87 2011-11-10 14:41:15 -0600 Report

Are the Tylenol pain patches new? I've never heard of them or seen anything about them. I'm so glad they help you. I may check them out!! Available at a drug store and Walmart? Thanks for the infor on them.

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-12 21:06:55 -0600 Report

They have been out here in Michigan for at least a couple of months.
Get them a wal-mart. And the wal-mart here will let you request items if they don't carry them. I really like them. I pulled a muscle in my calf about a month ago. Hurt real bad to walk. I put a patch on and went to bed, woke up the next morning and the pain was almost all gone. Could walk better, and by the following day i was all better! I don't know if it was just a small muscle pull, all i know is it hurt! Good Luck

lisaloo2429 2011-11-10 09:17:54 -0600 Report

I've never checked out any pain clinics here in Lubbock. Do I need to get a reference from my dr? I did make it to the gym ytd after work and only walked for 30 minutes but it was a pretty fast pace and high incline so I clocked 1.5 miles and this morning I wasn't as sore and I still hurt but not as intense as I had been.

Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-12 21:09:07 -0600 Report

That is wonderful! Good for you! I hope this continues for you.
I do believe you need a referal from your doc. Then I think you go and they evaluate you. That's what they did for my friend. She was abused by her husband at the time and years later her neck was still alll jacked up. They were able to help her. I hope they can help you too! Good Luck. You are in my prayers, Mickey

jayabee52 2011-11-10 14:02:40 -0600 Report

generally speaking, yes you certainly may need a referral from your Dr. Even if you do not need a referral from him, it would be to your benefit if you let your Primary Dr know of your visit to the pain center.

jayabee52 2011-11-10 15:44:22 -0600 Report

I have never been to one, but in the Back Pain connect site there is a lot of discussion about pain clinics. It's been a while now and memory is fuzzy, but what I remember is that the Dr is specialized in the relief of pain and goes through your medication list and talks to you about your pain. They may give you ways to cope with your pain without the use of meds, but they are not afraid to use some mighty strong pain meds too, like opioids.

I pray you can find relief from your pain. You might find it interesting to go to BackPain Connect (find the link at the "visit another community" abpve and use your DC sign in info to sign in to that site. Say "Hi" to VegasDave when you're there too.



chariceyou 2011-11-09 11:02:38 -0600 Report

hi how are you? ima new here,,,

lisaloo2429 2011-11-09 11:15:07 -0600 Report

Hi Charice, I'm not good, as you can read from my post. Just going thru a really hard time right now. and I don't know what to do or how to deal.

lisaloo2429 2011-11-09 09:45:48 -0600 Report

Thank you for all the advice. I'm going to try the diabetic vitamins. I am already on an antidepressant Pristiq and also Cymbalta. Cymbalta mostly for anxiety due to anxiety attacks. I'm not sure if I've posted this before but I am also addicted to pain meds and muscle relaxers. I started taking them for my TMJ that caused my neck and back pain. Then after an MRI they found the bulging disc. So I was on meds for over 3 years then after being on them so long I had to take more and more to get relief. After another year of realizing that I was very dependent on them and speaking w/my husband about my addiction, I started to wean myself off of them. Now I have been off of the pain meds for about 8 months and only take ibuprophen or Motrin and use IcyHot for my neck and back pain but as you can tell from my post, it doesn't help. I'm in pain daily. It took me 20 minutes to get out of bed. I don't see how back surgery would help as I cannot afford it or to be off work for a long period of time. My husband and I both work full time jobs and are barely making it. I just feel like I will live in pain for the rest of my life and I will have to just deal w/it.

tabby9146 2011-11-10 10:26:56 -0600 Report

sorry I did not read further before my post, like I normally do. thats great that you weaned off the meds. hoping you get relief soon. My son is 20, and stpped taking his medicines for depression and anxiety, the doctor warned him not to do that, I did too, but he won't listen.

MEGriff1950 2011-11-09 14:14:01 -0600 Report

Lisa, please be careful with anti-inflamatories as they can lead to liver and kidney problems. I was on prescription strength for 5 years when I started having issues. That is when I learned that you should only take anti-inflamatories for 3 years. I too have chronic pain and no relief.

lisaloo2429 2011-11-09 15:11:11 -0600 Report

How do you deal w/your pain? I know my liver is probably a mess. I'm going to ask my dr at my next appt. What kind of test is there to check for liver problems?

lacat87 2011-11-10 14:45:43 -0600 Report

I believe lisa that your liver enzymes will be checked for any damage. Also a CTscan can be done to get a good picture of any problems.

MEGriff1950 2011-11-10 13:10:20 -0600 Report

Lisa, I am on Lyrica for nerve pain and take Tylanol. I have pain 24/7. You can safely take 4000 mg of Tylanol a day. I take 1500 at bedtime. When my kidney problems developed my urine turned brown, as dark as coffee.

pixsidust 2011-11-09 12:14:51 -0600 Report

Try physical therapy to strengthen your muscles around the back and neck. Find out if your job has short term disability. I think they only pay you 75% of your pay but do not take taxes out so it evens up to the same. I am proud of you weaning yourself from the drugs but what you are taking may not be helping with the exhaustion. Check things out. Do you have health insurance from work and are you sure they would not pay for the surgery? Anything deductions or anything out of pocket can be considered a tax deduction. All my best! Just trying to come up with ideas!

lacat87 2011-11-10 14:49:07 -0600 Report

You could try a heated pool. I had that after my back fusion and it felt wonder. So wonderful that I didn't want to get out of the pool. I do understand that you're limited on what you can do, but you owe it to yourself to get some kind of relief. Maybe the surgeon/hospital can cut you a break on charges. Never hurts to ask.

MEGriff1950 2011-11-08 12:55:50 -0600 Report

Hello Lisa Loo. I suggest that you visit your doctor and discuss all of this with him. Many things can be causing this. Are you diabetic? Are your blood sugars under control? Do you have any other known health issues. From the little information you gave a check up is definately in order.

Caroltoo 2011-11-08 11:20:18 -0600 Report

Hi, Lisaloo,
Hope this morning was a better one for you! If not, have thought about the possibility that this is depression and not just a collection of physical symptoms? If so, there are meds that can help while you sort out and deal with the causes. Meds are frequently used short term…just to buy you some time to get started on dealing with the causitive issues. FYI: there are lots of meds out there and they don't all work for everyone! If you decide to see your doctor and give it a try, let him know asap if it doesn't work, he can offer you other options. We have enough physical stuff to deal with without having depression dragging us down further! Good luck with this and may your mornings start to be brighter and pain free!!!

pixsidust 2011-11-08 10:56:21 -0600 Report

You have to go to bed earlier and have some down time before bed. Make sure you are actually getting enough rest for you. I have always needed 8-9.5 hours all my life. Then I have to get moving in the morning. Warm shower, a couple of eggs and a walk with the dogs. Nothing wakes you up and helps the cramping like moving. I have a cup of coffee at work and it helps handle hunger pangs that call me to over eat. Try laying down two hours earlier. You probably won't sleep right away but you will eventually sleep. I watch TV or read with my PJ's on and comfy. The next thing I know is the TV is watching me!