Help finding good reciepes for diabetic with high cholesterol

johnsgrl14
By johnsgrl14 Latest Reply 2011-11-09 11:05:38 -0600
Started 2011-11-06 18:53:27 -0600

Hello all. My husband was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. He is currently having to take insulin at night due to his sugar levels being around 300. I have tried and tried to cook right and all but he is stubborn, well that is until he was admitted into the hospital for a bad infection and his blood sugar being around 300 give or take a few. He now realizes hes gonna be in big trouble if he doesnt start doing something now. As for me I have no clue as to what to cook. He is on a 1800 calorie diet in which he can eat 75mg of carbs each meal. Many of the things I thought was healthy is loaded with sugar or turns right in to it and he wont eat many veggies. He will eat green beans, broccoli, asparagus and of course the bad veggies corn, potatoes and carrots etc. He will not eat onions, tomatoes, spinach, lettuce, beets, eggplant,zucchini or any of that. Ive thought about cooking it anyway, in a way that he will like but I have no clue how to cook all that many things. I pretty much just learned how to cook. I get frustrated because of the counting calories, watching the sodium, and just trying to come up with something good for him that he will eat and me not waste money on food just to throw it out. If any of you could please point me in a good direction on receipes, that would be wonderful. The nutricianist at the hospital told him that a double cheese burger on a wheat bun, a small fry and a diet drink would be better for him than spagetti or something, so now he thinks the best thing for him is just that a burger and fries. I thought that was the worst thing she could have told him. I was not in the room when she said that or there would have been some words exchanged. Burgers, fries and fast food is what has taken over his diet and caused him to gain so much weight and she told him that. He needs to loose about 45 pounds and is having to hold off on excercize due to him having surgery to remove an abcess caused from this infection. Im feeling very over whelmed and not sure what to do. thanks in advance for any help


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MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-11-07 22:03:48 -0600 Report

Your husband needs to become pro-active in his efforts to control his disease. If he will keep a journal listing what he eats and when plus his BG's when he tests he will soon learn what foods will spike his BG. Every diabetic reacts differently to foods. I can eat potatoes and carrots without an problems. I cannot eat any rice, even the healthy ones or any types of breads. Pasta I can eat a little of on rare occassions. Deep fried foods are the worst for diabetics, they take longer to digest raise the triglycerides and spike the BG badly.
From what I learned in a Diabetics Education Class male diabetics can ingest more carbs then females. The 75 carbs that the nutritionist gave him sounds high unless he is very active in his job and exercises a lot. Personally a diatician gave me 45 carbs three times a day, I do best if I stick to about 30 carbs per meal. In the class I also learned that we need to eat 3 meals a day to help keep our carbs more level during the day. Skipping meals confuses our bodies and they produce more glucose.
Eating low fat meals is ideal but be careful of products that say they are low fat or fat free. Most use sugar of some kind to enhance the flavor.
I think it would be a good idea for your and your husband to spend time meal planning as Pixsidust suggested. While doing this have the pc on and look up the foods he likes. You can find how most diabetics react to those foods plus find the nutrient values of every food.
Beans are a very good source of fiber and protein. A pot of chili can be nutritious and good for his meal plan. Fruit juices are very bad for all diabetics they have a lot of carbs from added sugar.
I really admire the way you wish to be supportive of your husband. Remember that as he is learning about his disease and trying to make good food choices but he will make poor ones at times. I sometimes eat a "bad" food but get back on my meal plan the next meal. If I plan on eating a piece of cake I eat it with my meal and count those carbs.
Johnsgirl is you keep looking over this site you will find a lot of helpful information to share. I hope he will come to the site too.
Good luck and God bless,
Mary

pixsidust
pixsidust 2011-11-06 23:40:51 -0600 Report

No he needs to eat no more than 45g of carbs per meal. There lies the problem which is causing other problems. Diabetes is famous for an abscess especially if you are out of control as he is. He can have 6 small meals or three smaller meals and three snacks. She probably is frustrated with his lack of cooperation and that why she threw out the burger and fries idea. You lose the bun though. I am sure thats not the case with him.

Things that can lower cholesterol are fish oil, oatmeal, going fat free, giving up, fried fast food.

He needs to become invested in his health and not make his health your problem. He needs to be part of his meal plan and quit making you try and guess on what to do. Its too hard on you to guess how to please him and try your best to make him successful. If he becomes part of it from the ground up then you can actually be a team together…successfully. He needs to go grocery shopping with you and take the time to read labels and he decides what he can have or not have. He is not a baby but is acting irresponsible. You can let him know you are willing to help but he needs to decide a meal plan then shop with you and carefully work with you on creating a healthy plan. Its his decision to die or live. You have to pass this to him so he can be part of the solution.
Does he realize the trouble he is in "enough to quit the fries"? At a certain point there is no going back

Look on the recipe section here. There are great choices. Yet do not do it all for him. He needs to sit down and plan or he will never be fully invested in his quality and your quality of life.

Mickey/CCHT
Mickey/CCHT 2011-11-06 23:26:16 -0600 Report

Welcome johnsgrl14! The 2 posts below sound like they have you moving in the right direction. Good advice from both. Have you tried getting your husband to visit the site himself and seeing he is not alone? It is not easy, as we all know.
Reading labels is a drag, but it does get easier. Some of my easy go to things are eggs (hard boiled and egg salad are my fav's) and tuna fish. Tuna is good source of protein next to no carbs. Push the proteins and things like salad's. Make the salad with a mix of lettuces like endive and baby spinach and raddicho(sp?). He might not like it at first, but he will get used to it. Just ask him if eating bad is worth losing digits, or eyesight because those things can and will happen if he cannot control himself.
You have a hard road ahead, but know that we are all here for you anytime. Just surf around, you will find some good advice. Also the video's shown at the bottom of the Home page might help if you have not already checked them out.

Keep the faith. We are here for you!! God Bless, Mickey

Kirla
Kirla 2011-11-06 21:34:13 -0600 Report

Green beans, broccoli, asparagus are a good start. Nothing wrong with the burger without the bread once in a while but the fries need to go. Does he like coleslaw. I have a recipe for coleslaw that I ate for a while. Even made it a few days ago.

This is what I post for people having a hard time with blood sugar control. Its what I did. It may help and then again it may not. But I believe it’s worth trying.

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals. I was testing 5-7 times a day. I cut back or eliminated foods that spiked my blood sugar more than 50 points after eating.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

After about 6-8 weeks my blood sugar readings were almost normal levels.

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard boiled egg to my meals helped reduce blood sugar spikes also.

Good luck
Kevin
http://kirla.wordpress.com/

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-06 19:37:02 -0600 Report

Howdy john­sgrl­14 WELCOME to Diabetic Connect!

On the upper left of the discussions there is a link which takes you to Recipes. You can look there for recipes.

As far as the high cholesterol goes it is a myth that eating dietary cholesterol raised one's cholesterol, so eating eggs and cheese won't raise cholesterol levels.

Here's an article from DC a while ago about lowering Cholesterol http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/13...

I also remember that certain carbohydrates also raises the bad cholesterol.
I cannot find that article.

I believe the "nutritionist" was trying to make a point that the burger and fries was better for him than the spaghetti in terms of carbohydrate load on his body but that's obviously not the way he heard it.

He would do himself a lot of good to drastically reduce breads, potatoes, corn, pastas. Anything starchy! I have been managing my diabetes and keeping it at or close to the "normal" blood glucose (BG) level by not eating any breads or pastas and White potatoes or corn at all. I eat mainly protein (eggs and meat ) and non-starchy vegetables, and a small amount of fruits (mainly berries). But I had to be a person with diabetes (PWD) for many years and develop painful, debilitating, and humiliating complications before I was ready to do that.
I would hope he would not have to go through all of that to be ready, but I was a real "knothead" (as my daddy would say).

I am willing to share my meal plans with you should you request them.

As far as my diabetes profile is concerned my numbers all look normal or close to it. My A1c was 5.5 in May 2011 (it had been 7 a while ago) and I have lost about 50 lbs of weight.

My plan is sometimes tough to follow, even though I am motivated to manage my diabetes without the use of diabetes meds. I still silp sometimes and my numbers go above where I'd like.

Praying God's richest blessings upon you and yours.

James

johnsgrl14
johnsgrl14 2011-11-06 20:13:48 -0600 Report

Thank you so much James, I appriciate you reaching out to me and pointing me in the right direction. If it wouldnt be too much to ask could you share your meal plan with me? Just so I can get an idea, Im a visual learner. You are doing very well with yours with no meds, congrats! His A1c is 10.8 and his bg is around 200 or so. Thanks again for helping me out and keep up your good work on managing your diabetes, you are doing great!

Ashley

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-07 19:37:34 -0600 Report

Howdy Ashley,

Here is the meal plan I use. This is something I came up with myself and I have had success with it.

MY MEAL PLAN

I have discontinued eating bread of any kind (biscuits, buns, tortillas cornbread, ect) I eat a low carb high protein menu.
For breakfast I eat 2 hard boiled eggs and a small serving of fruit. (usually 1/4 or 1/2 C depending on the carb yield of the fruit. My usual is 1 small clementine orange. But if I am out of the clementines I also eat mostly berries as they are lower on the glycemic index than many other fruits. I stay away from bananas as they are quite high in carbs and also are not good for me due to my kidney issues. Too much potassium.

(Really what you can have is more determined by how your metabolism reacts to certain foods or drinks. (At the end of this I will add how I determine MY body's reaction to a certain food or drink. Since we are all different what may spike me may not spike you and vice versa. )

BACK To the Menu:

For lunch, I generally grill (on a Geo Foreman grill) a boneless skinless chicken breast. I add to that NON or LOW starch vegetables. Green Beans, Broccoli, Calulflower, "California Blend" mix, or stir fry, or Zucchini, or yellow squash.
I haven't developed a taste for brussels sprouts yet, but that is OK too, I think,

I choose one of my usual fruit choices (from the breakfast menu)

(Your taste buds and your meter will be your guide there)

For the evening meal I usually eat a grilled (same method) hamburg pattie (85/15%). I add to that one of the Veggie choices from the lunch menu and one of the fruit choices from the Breakfast menu. I usually pick out veggies or fruits I have not had already that day.

For variety I sometimes Roast a turkey breast in the oven and serve it in the place of one of the protein selections.

Likewise I either make or heat up frozen meatballs and use them in place of one of the protein selections also.

I could (and have) use fish on occasion, but that is not my favorite food. I used to eat fish sticks but unfortunately they have breading on them which raises the carb content.

And here is, as promised above, the proceedure to test the effect of foods on one's blood Glucose levels:

What I do is to take a BG reading before I test a food. That is my baseline reading. I determine what a "serving" of a particular food is using either foodpicker.org (http://foodpicker.org/) or nutrition data.com (http://nutritiondata.self.com/) or ( http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/4486.asp ) eat a recommended portion of that food. Then 2 hrs lafter my first bite I take a "postpramdial" reading. That will tell me how much that particular portion of food has raised my BG levels over my baseline readings. If it raises my BG less than 50 pts, I may eat that portion without much trouble. If it raises my BG over 50 then I need decide whether it is too much over 50 or not and I may want to retest it with a lower portion size. If it is closer to a 100 pts raise then I usually decide to avoid that food altogether.

I then put a page in my 3 ring binder with that food on it, and record the baseline, the portion conumed and the postprandial results, and my decisions made, whether to retest with a lower portion, and then results of that test, or if I decided to avoid that food altogether.

I do that so I remember what I've tested and what my decisions were, so I don't have to test again needlessly.

That way I have a book of what works for ME and my metabllism specifically.

It may seem like a lot of testing, but for me it is worth it to know the glucose yield of a particular food. Then there is no guesswork. The main thing then is not to allow portion inflation (making the portion size larger) since a larger portion will cause a raising of Blood Glusose levels.

I pray this is useful for you!

Blessings to you and yours!

James