Insulin Resistant?

Jim Edwards
By Jim Edwards Latest Reply 2012-04-16 22:12:45 -0500
Started 2011-11-01 10:18:00 -0500

Anybody out in DC land insulin resistant? If so, what is the next step? Jim


37 replies

margokittycat
margokittycat 2012-04-16 22:12:45 -0500 Report

Oh Jim, another thing we have in common. I was told I was inslin resistant 20 years ago and also allergic to long term insulins. I last week started seeing a new Endo who was just flabber gasted at he amount of insulin I took and the number of shots due to only being able to take regular insulin. He put me on Novalog for my day time shots, it is a short term insulin but only 8 units 3 times a day and then he put me on Levemir which is a 24 hour insulin and releases itself evenly in those 24 hours. It seems to be doing the trick for me.

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-18 17:54:25 -0600 Report

Jim,

Do you take a D3 supplement? It has been shown to reduce insulin resistance by 21% in 1 month, if you use it at the therapeutic dose of 1,000-2,000 mg/day. You might want to give it a try. It sure seems to be helping mine!!!!

Carol

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-12-22 18:35:40 -0600 Report

For some reason, no longer present in my mind, my PCP took me off D. I think he said it could interfere with some of my other meds. I will ask again.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-12-19 07:49:24 -0600 Report

Really? that is amazing. I only take D3 in the winter when I am not outside uncovered so much. I don't recall the dose I would take. That seems like a lot. Are there side effects to taking so much?

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-12-19 11:48:43 -0600 Report

My doc suggested I not go above 2,500 on a regular basis. Michael (medic) mentioned he was taking 5,000. The USDA amount in around 400, if memory serves, but that considered "normal" dose for "normal" people. The therapeutic dose is higher. It's still safe, it's just beyond what most people need. /The USDA amounts are set around minimums. As I said, I usually take 2,000 here in sunny Hawaii, but on the occasional dark day when my BG may go higher, I take 2 tablets for 4,000.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-03 12:59:21 -0500 Report

Thanks for all the answers. Time to work that belly fat. Now that I am single again I have another incentive.
So, is it possible/probable that my own body is producing enough insulin, but it just can't use it?

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-04 13:31:09 -0500 Report

my body seems to be putting out some insulin, enough to control my BG levels without diabetes meds, just not enough to control a "normal" meal plan. Yours may also.

Caroltoo's answer below gives some good suggestions for combatting insulin resistence. (unfortunately, one cannot spot-reduce and just work off the belly fat).

Or you can, Jim, try my rather radical eating plan and discontinue eating all breads and lower your carb intake to low and eat a high protein meal plan.

Of course before you experement with the eating plan, you'll want to discuss this with your diabetes Dr

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-04 13:57:29 -0500 Report

I am glad you told me one cannot spot reduce! I had just wiped down my belly with alcohol (Captain Morgan) and was about to cut out my excess belly fat!
I will have to find that post. I remember it was hard-boiled eggs in the AM and I think it was 1/2 gallon of Cookies and Cream for lunch, but do not remember the evening meal.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-04 14:06:42 -0500 Report

OK so you don't have to strain yourself looking it up:

MY MEAL PLAN

I have discontinued eating bread of any kind (biscuits, buns, tortillas cornbread, ect) I eat a low carb high protein menu.
For breakfast I eat 2 hard boiled eggs and a small serving of fruit. (usually 1/4 or 1/2 C depending on the carb yield of the fruit. My usual is 1 small clementine orange. But if I am out of the clementines I also eat mostly berries as they are lower on the glycemic index than many other fruits. I stay away from bananas as they are quite high in carbs and also are not good for me due to my kidney issues. Too much potassium.

(Really what you can have is more determined by how your metabolism reacts to certain foods or drinks.

BACK To the Menu:

For lunch, I generally grill (on a Geo Foreman grill) a boneless skinless chicken breast. I add to that NON or LOW starch vegetables. Green Beans, Broccoli, Calulflower, "California Blend" mix, or stir fry, or Zucchini, or yellow squash.
I haven't developed a taste for brussels sprouts yet, but that is OK too, I think,

I choose one of my usual fruit choices (from the breakfast menu)

(Your taste buds and your meter will be your guide there)

For the evening meal I usually eat a grilled (same method) hamburg pattie (85/15%). I add to that one of the Veggie choices from the lunch menu and one of the fruit choices from the Breakfast menu. I usually pick out veggies or fruits I have not had already that day.

For variety I sometimes Roast a turkey breast in the oven and serve it in the place of one of the protein selections.

Likewise I either make or heat up frozen meatballs and use them in place of one of the protein selections also.

See! now isn't that better than 1/2 gal of cookies and cream ice cream for lunch?

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-04 14:47:28 -0500 Report

Yes, of course. so you are suggesting I make chocolate egg nog to get 2 food groups in the meal. Good idea james!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-01-07 16:35:13 -0600 Report

I have found after the 4th or 5th glass, it doesn't really matter. I am happy with whatever is in it. Alas, the days of eggnog are regretably behind me.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-01-08 13:08:12 -0600 Report

Are you totally nuts? some of these don't have eggs in them and some don't have nog in them! And these measure stuff by the cup, Grammom measured eggs by the dozen, alcohol by the bottle, half bottle and the like. Of course she was making 3 to 4 gallons at a shot! And she used cream, not super no fat milk. Oh, I guess I will have to make some concessions…Jim :)

Gabby
GabbyPA 2012-01-08 13:10:04 -0600 Report

LOL! Well choose your weapon. I still use cream, but I use things like Truvia. Other than that...it's all good. YUM

Caroltoo
Caroltoo 2011-11-03 13:19:42 -0500 Report

Jim,
You asked if it was possible that your own body is making insulin and just unable to use it. Absolutely, it is possible. That's the situation that I was in. There is a test your Dr. can do that will tell you if your body still produces insulin in adequate quantity.

If so, the issue is enabling your body to use the insulin effectively. That's where dealing with the insulin resistance comes in. Exercise, weight loss, alpha lipoic acid, vinegar, aloe, or some mix of the above will help make the insulin available in the cells to bring down the blood glucose levels.

It's a two pronged issue: 1. do you have insulin and 2. how can you get it into the cells to lower the glucose level.
Carol

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-11-01 21:01:28 -0500 Report

Insulin resistance is the root of most type 2 diabetics. It is the severity of it that causes us grief. I am very resistant and weight loss will help that. I also have some articles on it that I can send to you that may help. It is the hardest thing to deal with and it takes great discipline. Exercise is your best friend in this case, as it is when your body is most able to deal with the overload.

These articles should help some.
http://www.diabeticconnect.com/news-articles/6509-11-ways-to-reduce-insulin-resistance
http://www.diabeticconnect.com/news-articles/5942-high-stress-heightens-insulin-resistance
http://www.diabeticconnect.com/news-articles/7001-understanding-insulin-resistance

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-04 15:10:36 -0500 Report

Yeah, weight loss, that is the easy way out. Okay, I will walk the killer hills of Pine Creek Camp and am looking for a treadmill for the days that the weather does not cooperate. My goal is to be at 200 or less by December 2012.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-11-05 07:55:30 -0500 Report

Getting your "girlish" figure back again to attract the gals? Sounds like as good a motivation as any.

You have inspired me to get back to a more strict restriction of carbs and do what I did in the beginning that helped me loose so much weight. If it worked before I am sure I can make it work again.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-05 15:02:41 -0500 Report

How about walking? You start walking up 95 and I will start walking down. We should meet in NC and Dietcherry can come over and say Hi!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-11-06 08:21:03 -0600 Report

LOL that will take a while to be sure, but would be fun. We both would be so skinny when we meet we wouldn't recognize each other.

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-11-01 16:12:57 -0500 Report

Jim, I highly recommend Diabetic Education Classes, most include a visit with a dietician who will help you with a meal plan. I attended a class on July 7th and quickly gained control of my blood sugars. You might also check for a support group in your area.

berrykins0
berrykins0 2011-11-01 15:11:53 -0500 Report

i'm insulin resistant weight can reduce this problem somewhat i only take metformin once a day ya it can make it hard to lose weight. try having thyriod problems to boot. i didn't let these things stop me fom weight loss just have to work a little harder thats all. i used take 2 met forin i haven't for the last 1yr 4months though.

Harlen
Harlen 2011-11-01 14:49:37 -0500 Report

Hello
I am resistant and I use min 150 ut a day and I am on a pump befor the pump I was using 300 ut min a day and when I cant use reg insulin then I will swich to U500 insulin This is what I know Jim hope it helps
Best wishes
Harlen

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-01 12:04:30 -0500 Report

howdy Jim
I had been told a long time ago by my primary care Dr that I was insulin resistant. He didn't tell me much to do about it, it was just a part of being a Person with Diabetes (PWD).

Later on I learned that insulin resistant can be affected by losing weight, especially around the midriff. I made an effort to manage my BG levels through a meal plan alone and that had the happy side effect of reducing my weight about 50 lbs so far. I am guessing that means I can use my insulin my pancreas makes better.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-11-01 12:14:32 -0500 Report

Okay, thanks. Now that I am on-line dating, weight loss is moving up on my things to do. Let me get a piece of coconut custard pie to take on my walk!
Thanks, james, hope you are doing well.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-11-01 13:02:29 -0500 Report

I just saw my Kidney Dr on Monday 10/31. I had been expecting bad news from my lab results, but Dr said my kidney numbers improved a little bit from 2 months before. I had expected to go on dialysis, but Dr pushed it back again. I see him again in another 2 months. I have been doing things trying not to stress my kidneys, so maybe whatever it is, it is working at least just a little.

Otherwise I am doing well.

I am on a dating website "plenty of fish.com" (it's a free site) and am there under my DC screen name.

Pray you are well too. Just don't enjoy your pie too much, or too much of your pie! LoL!

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