should people with diabetes be able to choose to end their lives

By Anonymous Latest Reply 2012-03-17 16:55:52 -0500
Started 2011-10-17 15:37:37 -0500

if diabetes is a progressive disease with no cure forseeable why should we be forced to live out our lives take countless meds checking our sugar till we cant take anymore finger sticks, worring about when or if we will loose our vision, loose a limb,go deaf or any of the things taht can go wrong. Face the truth our days of living normal lives are over

281 replies

veggieD 2012-03-17 16:55:52 -0500 Report

i;'ve known all along that living with diabetes is not normal. we cannot eat and drink what we want when we want, fast if we want to, etc. and have to contstantly be on guard and mindful of excess emotions, stress, illness, no sleep, too much exercise not enough, cutting yourself, or a blister on your foot, hang nail, pimple, boil, scratch, bruise, flu, cold, etc. etc etc. etc. more so than non diabetics. but everyone should eat healthy and not eat out. restaurant food is so over rated. too much fat, sugar, carb, salt, everything. even artificial taste .

REWART2008 2011-11-25 13:05:57 -0600 Report

First of all there is no such thing as a normal life there is just life. You can chose to live it or not.

zufritto 2011-11-22 09:12:32 -0600 Report

Your post and the replies really mean a lot to me! Thank you for your honesty! It's a great help as I begin my journey!

Uncle Lew
Uncle Lew 2011-11-22 09:10:25 -0600 Report

From your post I see that you do not have diabetes but diabetes has you. You let it control you and infect your thinking with negatives. You need to look it straight in the eye and tell it that you are the boss.
Remember that diabetes is a chronic disease but it does not necessarily have to be a progressive disease.


You need not fear complications but be aware of them.
What is a normal life? Watching what you eat, how much you eat, exercising. That is what normal people do. Gluttony, eating a box of cookies, eating half of a cheese cake, eating a pound of French fries, scarfing down a pint of ice cream or drinking 2 liters of Coke in a sitting is not normal.
Uncontrolled eating and drinking while being a couch potato is not a normal life style.
What we as people with diabetes must to do is live a truly normal life, not what we had considered a “normal life.”
Embrace change. Embrace health. Take control and LIVE!

lifedriver 2011-11-18 19:55:32 -0600 Report

I am sorry that you feel that way But my life has changed drastically I feel I have a purpose. When I was in Vietnam I felt my life was over it wasn't. When I was diagnoised Diabetic and was told I could not longer drive 18 wheelers Cross Country I fell into depression, I don't like all the things I must do being Diabetic but I will because we should not give up on life because ever breath is God giving. No we should not choose to end our life because of changes in our lives…LIVE

medic673b 2011-11-09 19:53:46 -0600 Report

i got my bracelet from the JDRF today and that made my day it is blue which is the color that the International Diabetes Foundation is calling for to be the color for Diabetes more to the point a blue circle. all the money went to researh on juvinelle diabetes

TsalagiLenape 2011-11-09 18:27:35 -0600 Report

Normal as we used to know is over. Yet the challenge of accepting, working out the new lifestyle, and making it possible to keep motivated is still a challenge. For if Life never changed we'd all be in a rut. Personally change can be good depends on what you put forth into it. You are simply investing in your future. Hence more people to err Harass um Have fun with by your smile.

medic673b 2011-11-09 18:06:16 -0600 Report

tried to reach out to an old dear friend and it was made clear he no longer wants anything to do with me. his three daughters used to call me uncle now they wont even speak to me

TsalagiLenape 2011-11-09 18:29:06 -0600 Report

I wonder why? Its not because of your diabetes though. Yet sadden by their loss of such a wonderful caring person such as yourself.

GabbyPA 2011-11-09 18:07:50 -0600 Report

You are loosing focus on your new goals in life. New life, new friends. Never gauge your self worth by your friends. That comes from inside. It hurts, but you can move on.

medic673b 2011-11-09 19:51:15 -0600 Report

thank you both but there was i misunderstanding on one end or the other. he still considers me to be like a brother. Some people may read this and assume i am gay but i am not i can assure of this, its just that going back to my sophmore year of high school he has been my best friend like a brother even thou he is 5 years older than i. we have done more together along with two others who we consider our brother than i have with my biological brother

medic673b 2011-11-10 16:54:36 -0600 Report

no he never knew or met my ex-wife you screwed me over. we talked abut 6 hours after i thought our friendship was ver but everything is fine now

Type1Lou 2011-11-08 17:46:34 -0600 Report

Ah, but what type of diabetes?…much of our condition is manageable by making the right choices in diet and exercise both for Type 1's and Type 2's. As chronic diseases go, diabetes isn't so bad and in my opinion, needn't be a "death sentence". We are blessed to be living in an age where many more treatment options are available. By making the wrong choices and worsening your condition, you are effectively committing suicide because it WILLl kill you eventually and your quality of life will suffer along the way. You choose to face your diagnosis and adapt to better manage it… or not…it's your choice. I choose LIFE.

medic673b 2011-11-07 23:29:56 -0600 Report

i am feeling so much better that whn the "Tour de Cure" comes to my town i plan on riding the 100 mie ride. also my doctor took me off my BP meds because the last 2 months it has been great today it was 116/74

medic673b 2011-11-08 20:10:58 -0600 Report

i went on a test ride today i am ashamed to say it but iam going to have to switch to the much shorter 20 mile ride

jayabee52 2011-11-08 21:17:58 -0600 Report

do what you are able to do. You might however be able to train and bulid up to the century mark in the interviening months. Build up the mileage slowly.

When in my 20s I had been a "century " rider.
I don't think I could even come close to that today due to the double whammy of my balance problems and my lack of stamina.

medic673b 2011-11-06 00:01:43 -0500 Report

Another thing you got to realize i got the news late in lfe i figured i had it made and would not get Diabetes

sheriden 2011-11-06 00:39:56 -0500 Report

Im fifty and did not figure I would get it my self. But I have other things, as do my children's father and I let them know what the chance is they may be diabetic or get cancer ect. I do not want them to feel that they will not get something to the point of being careless. the the things you are most afraid of do not happen to most diabetics. And chances are if we take good care of our self's most of those things wont happen. For some it still will but the more positive we can be the better our chances are, And though I have wanted to end my life many times it has not been over this. I don't want my children or grand children to think that is the answer or that it is ok. I know it take's time to wrap or minds around but we can live as long and beautiful life as any one else on earth. I know only one knows when we are going to die. But as I have learned stress is not good for any of our ill's but very bad for diabetics as it makes our BG go up. Pray you are doing better and can see a beautiful life in front of you. Blessings and prayers for you.

medic673b 2011-11-04 00:55:19 -0500 Report

I am surprised by the number of views up to date y'all will be glad to know i am feling somewhat better

GabbyPA 2011-11-04 09:05:46 -0500 Report

That is good to hear. I know it is hard when we see things we love slipping away from us. We just have to take time to refocus.

So are you physically feeling better? I know you struggle with a lot and that can get to be a huge drag if you don't have some alternative things to do. Have you found your way to help people out like you did when you were an EMT?

medic673b 2011-11-04 22:35:00 -0500 Report

no i have not but i have decided i want to be an diabetes advocate. not just because i have friends and family who have it as well also i do not feel with get the attention we deserve everyybody jumps on the Breast cancer awarness bandwagon(no offense) i think most people don't know that diabetes kills more people every year tan breast cncer and AIDS combined. I am going to contactmy daughters hghschool and see what we can pt together for national diabetes day and i am also going to talk to my mayor

GabbyPA 2011-11-05 07:45:22 -0500 Report

There you go. Use that desire to help to become a great advocate. You will do great things out there. Find a place in your town that is doing something for World Diabetes Day and start there. That would be fantastic. I look forward to hearing all the great things you accomplish.

GabbyPA 2011-11-06 08:01:37 -0600 Report

You are most welcome. We all get lost in times of great change, but your true self of wanting to help will come through and you will be putting all of us to shame one day.

hillwalker 2011-10-31 14:44:29 -0500 Report

perhaps many of the strong reactions are because there is a desparation to all of our lives and in many cases the condition( I Refuse to call it a disease we could cure a disease) does end our lives as we know it and we all have to learn to live a different life but in the dark of night many have had dark thoughts(though for me it is harder to face the bright light of day)

medic673b 2011-11-03 19:42:38 -0500 Report

bury your head in the sand and refuse to call it a disease but is still a disease and it can kill you

hillwalker 2011-11-08 20:07:36 -0600 Report

no its worse than a disease a disease vwe could cure this we're stuck with calling it a disease IS burying your head in the sand there are no plans to cure this atleast for type two just treating the symptoms

medic673b 2011-10-26 22:27:08 -0500 Report

all you who think y'all are shrinks i am not crazy nor did i say i wanted to kill my self i simply asked a question. nor am i stupid do i need to see a therapist, probaly but it has more to do with the fact my ex-wife took everything i owned including my beloved mustang gt so please quit trying to diagnose me unless you can show proof that you are qualified. Also during my two years in college earning my right to be a paramedic i took every Psycology course they offered 5 in total so get on with your lives if i need help from anybody i will be the first to knowand y'all will be the second. yoou dont like this post to bad i am tired of strangers telling me i am crazy and what i need to do

GabbyPA 2011-10-28 08:42:23 -0500 Report

But you posted the question. People just shared what they felt. I agree some of them were pretty aggressive, but it is a serious question that you posed to us all. I know it got me seriously thinking about my life in a different way.

sweetbelle 2011-10-25 21:56:13 -0500 Report

Living with diabetes is not as bad as all that. I've had it for about 15 years. I didn't take care of myself like I should have for a long time and I regret it. I take better care of myself and now I live healthier and happier.Sometimes I don't stick myself 4 times a day like my doctor wants but it's better than dying a miserable death full of being sick and tired and giving up on myself and life.

rhonda80 2011-10-25 20:04:17 -0500 Report

I think you really need to see someone professional about this. I have had diabetes for 28 years and I have one very minimal complication from it that I may have gotten anyway. I cannot see that a doctor would have you checking blood sugars so often that your fingers hurt all day after. Maybe you need to get a lancet device that you adjust the setting of how deep it pokes so it doesn't hurt. Life could be soooo much worse-you could have cancer, AIDS, etc.

Gwen Morten
Gwen Morten 2011-10-25 13:18:50 -0500 Report

WOW! Any time anyone sees death as a possible option of life speaks DEPRESSION! My thought is before choosing one over the other go speak with a counselor or someone else who is experienced with listening and giving good no great advice. Every one with diabetics I think at some point goes through periods of doubt and are scared about what lies ahead in the future, but LIFE is still good even if you got to look deep within to find something to feel blessed about! Good luck! I know dealing with this is a full time job with overtime everyday but if you give yourself a chance I know you will be delighted with what choices we really have! LOVE YOU AND TAKE CARE!

mebetty 2011-10-25 08:37:32 -0500 Report

hmmmm…that sounds like diabetes is not your problem, but loneliness. I would like to strongly suggest that you speak to your doctor about your view. Diabetes is not a death sentence, but it is about having a healthier lifestyle. Of course, you have all the authority to make your own choices. For the most part, diabetes CAN BE CONTROLLED with a sensible diet. A sensible diet will make POSITIVE changes in your life. You will lose weight, you won't feel fatigued, you will have a more positive outlook on life, you will look much better and can live a normal AND HEALTHY lifespan. If you are conscious of what you eat you will avoid other ailments that could silently take your life, like: strokes, heart attack, ulcers, etc. Diabetes can be a POSITIVE thing as your body is sending out an ALARM and gives you an opportunity to change your course.

Of course, no one wants to have diabetes, or any other disease that requires a lot of control and limitations. I would never suggest that. But it is an opportunity to see that you are in a path of destruction and progressive deterioration. BUT THIS CAN BE AVOIDED.

Don't be disheartened. Take one meal at a time, one day at a a time. I am glad you came on to this site. Put all your worries and thoughts here. I am sure you will gain more knowledge and feel less threatened by this modern-age disease.

I wish you a healing spirit, a peaceful mind, and a day full of hope. This is not the end. It is the beginning of a better life…

God bless you and take away your pain…

Please continue to post. I am sure someone will always have the answer you need for that moment. Chin up. Godspeed. God bless you my friend.


medic673b 2011-11-22 00:31:04 -0600 Report

yes i am very lonely l have no friends really the kind you can count on and only my mother and daughter as family who care. i would kill to have somebody or than the suicide hotline to talk to, somebody to walk with when i go on my evening walks or on the weekends when i bike ride. I am not looking for anything more than a friend who i can count on and enjoys my hobbies but i am not good at making friends so here i am not caring about what happens to me

Caroltoo 2011-11-22 01:27:09 -0600 Report

Medic I feel sad with you when I read some of your posts. This previous one about carbs/crabs shows you still have your sense of humor intact under the sadness. I'm happy to see it. Carol

Natim 2011-10-25 03:57:35 -0500 Report

Life is about constant changes that we face everyday and our approach to them will make the difference.
Sometimes life brings challenges to us that we might feel that they are too big for us to manage and feel like giving up.
I can assure you that life is a gift and we need to do our atmost best to retain this gift as a token of appreciation.
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetise about 4 mnths ago and when the Dr confirmed it my wife was seating right next to me and started crying and for me it was " WoW what a life style change" and to me it was a life style change and to my wife it was standing at the foot of mount everest and trying to climb it with no knowledge and resources at all.
I can tell you that right away I started the diet, exercises, and tablets and within a matter of 2 weeks I brought it to normal levels and in a month I cut down to one tab a day and the trend improved and for the past 3 mnths my blood sugar levels are normal and I should be able to control it by just diet and exercise soon.

I would like to really encourage you to ready more about the condition and talk lot to people who have been managing it for many years and many of these can be found within this forum.
My boss` mother have been managing her diabetise for the past 40 years and she is type 1 insulin.
My dietician` mother has been managing it for the past 30 yrs too and the list goes on and these are the forerunners that give us the added encougement to deal with ours successfully without giving up.

Remember the sooner we accept the changes in our lives the sooner we start managing the change and be sure bto win.
I have 2 boys 13 & 7 yrs of age and my goal is to see them grow and support them in all their child wood challenges.

buffy360 2011-10-25 02:55:28 -0500 Report

I hear you struggling. How do I say what I am thinking to help YOU…
Keep seeking answers, keep asking questions, keep looking for opportunities to find new alternatives! Answers may be just around the corner. I think most people have felt devastated at some point in this life. I hope you have sought someone to talk with one-on-one that might help guide you!

For certain we all go out of this life. Strengthen your Spirit, strengthen your body and resolve to continue strengthening.

I wish you the courage to keep going, to keep learning, to keep growing. Love yourself, day-by-day, that's all any of us get. There are more mysteries to reveal themselves to you, keep loving, keep living, stick around!

mumbleypeg 2011-10-24 22:27:21 -0500 Report

I think I'll just let my kids worry me to death. At this point, they have already
shaved about 10 years off my life. Suicide is selfish & lazy.

bar59567 2011-10-24 17:33:31 -0500 Report

I'm depressed and I came to this group for help and believe me that's the most negative thing I've ever read.

mebetty 2011-10-25 08:55:09 -0500 Report

Hi bar59567. Depression is a disease in itself. But you should feel that you can express what bothers you at any time here. Depression can lead to bad eating habits and lethargy which can bring on diabetes.

We may not always find discussions that are positive, and so we must be discerning as to what topics we choose to participate. I too suffer from depression, and there are times when I can't partake in any discussion, here on this site, or at home.

But sometimes when we see others expressing a dark side we choose to ignore, it forces us to to take a deeper look into ourselves. If we are to get better we need to understand where our weaknesses are. We cannot blame our depression on others. Depression comes from within us.

You should be comfortable to post whatever is bothering you here as long as you don't purposely seek to offend anyone. That is why we all came on to this site.

I wish you peace of mind and a healing spirit. Just remember that the most creative people and geniuses have a long history of depression. So don't let depression govern your life. Seek out the creativeness and caring spirit within you.


Priscilla Ann
Priscilla Ann 2011-10-24 15:10:45 -0500 Report

I am terribly sorry that you have come this far and this feedup… i do feel the pain and i can understand that you do get so tired of our lives being so different…worrying ourselves to death about the numbers— can i eat this — should i have that…But I feel grateful that i am still here! My kids are grown and on there own -even got grandbabies— my 2nd one came just last tuesday!!Thats what i keep going for is my rewards for living - i believe in my soul that i am still here for them- to enjoy them- because they are what life is all about!
Try not to worry so much about what you are loosing and look more into what God has given to you!!You have people and family that love you dearly-and that my friend is worth fighting for!!

laur13jf 2011-10-24 13:30:42 -0500 Report

All i can say is what has already been said. WOW! This is truly a mind boggling question. i have just come to the realization that i cannot live my life the way i have been with being diabetic. i want to control my diabetes the best i can so i don't go blind or lose a limb or go deaf. i have had neuropathy for several years now. it has progressed from my feet to the calf. i hope that with some exercise, which i am starting a program in a few days, that it will help the situation. i have too much to live for. i would think if you were to sit down and make a list of all the things you have to live for it just might change your mind. also think about the people you leave behind. how are they to cope with your death when all you have is diabetes. yes it is time consuming and life changing, but we cannot think of it as a death sentence. i don't see it that way. i believe God gave me this disease to help me be a better person. i have grandchildren i love and want to spend time with. I am hoping to be a great-grandmother some day before i go. i hope you really think through your thoughts and decide to stay with us.

Dixiemom 2011-10-24 12:28:19 -0500 Report

Wow, this is some topic. I'm a newbie in this field even tho I've been around in this world for quite nsome time, but how we relate to life is similar to how we relate to God. Put your trust in Him. He never gives you more then you can bear. Our troubles and problems should be viewed as stepping stones to a better way. Life is what you make of it. I choose not to dwell on my problems and believe me, I have a few, but the support from familoy and friends is a blessing. I consider all on this sight my friends so I have many. Put your trust in the Lord and He will ease your burdens.My grandson just wished me a happy birthday and said he hopes I will "stay young" to be around when he has his children. That, to me, was the greatest compliment a grandma could receive.

MAYS 2011-10-24 11:19:03 -0500 Report

The choice to either live, or to die is completely yours …
Choose wisely!

dietcherry 2011-10-25 19:10:03 -0500 Report

People who attempt suicide dont always succeed! If they think they were miserable before, a botched attempt could leave them way worse off than they ever imagined. Shiver…
Hiya MAYS! How are you my friend? :)

clj01 2011-10-24 11:09:21 -0500 Report

Wow! It seems everyone has an opinion on this one. I for one would not want to have my personal feelings aired about how I feel related to the end of my life. I do think that If I have strong feelings as have been aired here, that I would start by talking with my personal physician. Perhaps a change in medication, or a new look at the problem, or even the opportunity to speek with someone who we feel has the knowledge to help us would be enough. I too have had times when everything felt out of control. When these feelings arise, slow down, take a deep breath, and find that one person you trust to talk with about your feelings. Remember to have HOPE.

TAR Jewel
TAR Jewel 2011-10-24 05:29:36 -0500 Report

We don't have the right to choose when we are born, nor do we have the right to choose when or even how we should die. Where is it written that just because you have diabetes that you will die from it? You could just as easliy get hit by a car, robbed and killed. What is considered "normal" living? I live my life in the same way I did before I became a diabetic the difference is I have also added and taken away some things. Life is a serious of test and trials. It is ever changing. So, I will be praying for you…for a changed mindset. It's all in how you view the picture. My glass is half-full not half-empty! Peace to you!!!

margokittycat 2011-10-23 22:43:23 -0500 Report

Diabetes is not that bad I recently had my 32 anniversary of the day I was diagnosised with the disease. It is against all God taught us to take or end your own life, so that would never be a choice I would have to worry about making. Don't get me wrong, after 32 years, I have had many of those day's where I feel like I can't do another finger stick or another shot and I take between 4 & 6 shots a day and 6 to 8 finger sticks a day. I just remember what god said and that is he will never give us more than he knows we can handle. I turn my faith to gad and he answers and lets me know what to do and where to go for the help. It is not easy by ny means, but God is always there, turn to your Father nd he will help you. May God Bless and Keep You.

Richknowbody 2011-10-23 07:59:29 -0500 Report

It is always a choice. I am having too mich fun still.
I don't know how the choice could be rrmoved by forces outside of your self.
Where you place your attention is the most important thing you do in your life.
Put your attention on your loves and passions.

Mrs. Dill
Mrs. Dill 2011-10-22 22:16:45 -0500 Report

Things are not always as bad as they seem at the time. Most of the time when given the chance to sit back and look at the situation when the shock has worn off, most people find that the disease is not as bad as they first thought. Suicide is not the answer and most people find that they can live a normal life with just a minimal amount of adjustment to their lives. Some people find that they are healthier with these adjustments then before. I was diagnosed about 3 years ago and had helpless feelings also. My entire family has had diabetes since I can remember and I remember feeling overwhelmed and feeling completely alone. With the help of my health care team and the support of my family I finally realized that all is not lost. Things will look better just be patient and if you need someone to talk to there are enough of us around that you can talk to. Always remember you are not alone!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2011-10-22 15:44:44 -0500 Report

It is eay to get depressed when you have diabetes but it surely isn't a life taking disease like say cancer. Diabetes can be controlled a little bit and even controlled to where your life is very bearable. Sure you can have all these other problems and yes you have to stick fingers daily but not to the point of say I HAVE HAD IT. Cmon you can do this!!! Give it a chance and talk to someone when you get down a little bit. Hang in there!!!

catroter53 2011-10-22 12:16:45 -0500 Report

sometimes people with this disease feel why live for the fact that everything that people live for is to live life like they choose? choose what they can eat or drink? i felt like that at first,, knowing i won't be able to go to a buffet in vegas or go grab a burger and fries,,, or just eat the hell i want,, but learning more about this,, and control my portions,, i can still eat what i want. also gives me a push to loose my weight,, i do buffets, once every 4 months,,, and when im craving that burger i go get one!!! im not going to get to the point of taking shots,,that really scares me!! thats what pushes me to turn this disease aroundmm and get back to my "normal" weight,, :)

RAYT721 2011-10-21 23:48:58 -0500 Report

Not all diabetics face the complications that you are writing about. As for things that can go wrong can go wrong for diabetics or from complications from a number of other conditions as well. I know of amputees, blind people and deaf people who are not diabetic. As for normal life, normal is what you make it. There are people fighting far more horrible diseases with more inconvenience and far more pain than diabetes brings. Thus, I disagree with your post on suicide for diabetes.

MarkieMarkie 2011-10-21 15:05:39 -0500 Report

I must say this post has left me stunned… The typical way to respond to a request to commit suicide is to say, (in my case since I'm a Rev.) is NO YOU SHOULD NEVER COMMIT SUICIDE… the old addage is it is a SIN. Okay; however with putting all that aside, I was perplexed and intrigued by this post at the same time. As I sat weighing out the factors of life, death, life, death… I'm encouraged by the LIFE. Choose LIFE… live it as long as you have… just becasue you have a disease don't take heart that your life will loose its luster or impact to have and embrace furture events, happening and memories.

In 2004 when I was diagonsed, I just liearned that my daughter was a Meth addict, CPS was taking away her 1st chiild, later her 2nd… I lost my home and was also diagnosed with daibetes - basically all in the same stroke.

I took hold of the only embracable thing I've always known, by belief in God… I now own another home, my daughter is drug free and I have a ministry called Nunah's Little House. And God sends me people… a lot to look forward too. I'm blessed with 2 grandchildren, my friend Robert whom I adore… I'm 49, he's 26 and the best of the best out of all the men I've known. God delivered him to my front door.

Diabetes is not my henderance, it is my challenge… I get up, take another step, do another day and thank the Lord for each day… after all each day that I'm here, I'm here to do something for him… remember this, there is always faith, hope and love and the greatest of these is love. Love One Another as I have loved you… oh love and give love and your life will not need the mention of death… that will be taken care of when the moment is right… suicide, is never an option.

I will pray for you and I want you to know you are loved and cared about.

God Bless,

aka Rev. Hixon

Mickey/CCHT 2011-10-21 18:00:55 -0500 Report

What an inspiring story. I hope it helps whomever reads it. I just love to hear when people give praise to our Father God and our Savior Jesus Christ. I pray you will continue to be blessed and your church continues to grow. I wish i could come! Blessings, Mickey