my medication was just increased how am I gonna get through this

stirringtime
By stirringtime Latest Reply 2011-10-30 20:31:49 -0500
Started 2011-10-15 05:25:19 -0500

I had blood work done and thought oh good maybe Ill be taken off the Metformin but to my dismay the dr increased the daily amount by 2 500 mg I had no idea I was even doing that bad, now what do I do? and how can i get the sugar checking supplies I need with no insurance and no money..


38 replies

Leslie S
Leslie S 2011-10-19 16:55:40 -0500 Report

My dietician gave me a free meter. I got strips, etc from Walmart and only paid $11. Check into that. :)

Mickey/CCHT
Mickey/CCHT 2011-10-18 17:19:02 -0500 Report

Sorry to hear that, it is frustraing when you think you are doing good and then you get smacked in the face by your own body!
As for the supplies, check with your health dept and if you have a Red Cross in your area check them. When my mom needed help they gave her free supplies and insulin. Couldn't hurt to check. Good luck! Keep the Faith…Peace

LauraS
LauraS 2011-10-18 13:22:18 -0500 Report

Wow, it's amazing how these threads get off track. Testing supplies. I just got some test strips off E-bay. $23 for 50 of the one touch ultra blue. Do some research to find the cheapest strips and then get that meter, maybe Walmart will be the cheapest. I get metformin for free from the local supermarket.

edvel54
edvel54 2011-10-17 18:41:08 -0500 Report

HOW HAS YOUR BLOOD SUGAR BEEN AND YOUR AC1? tHERE IS A SITE WHERE YOU CAN GET COUPONS FOR MANY OF THE MEDS YOU TAKE. NEED TO READ THE SIDE EFFECTS FOR METFORMIN, IT HAS BEEN LINKED TO KIDNEY PROBLEMS.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2011-10-19 15:31:44 -0500 Report

Almost everyone dx is put on metformin. If it was that bad for you they would have taken it off the market years ago. Don't believe everything you read.

edvel54
edvel54 2011-10-19 20:53:56 -0500 Report

I know of several diabetic's that have kidney problems, myself included that has taken metformin.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-30 20:31:49 -0500 Report

I believe Met helps more people than hurts them ( I am one it has hurt), so on balance they would say it is a good med. I may disagree because it has hurt me.

I pray Velaine I won't see you in the dialysis clinic. That seems where I am heading, the way my numbers look I see Kidney doc tomorrow 10/31

Fairlawngirl
Fairlawngirl 2011-10-17 19:52:16 -0500 Report

Interesting. I haven;t been on that for quite a while. So you do your reading, are a knowledgable man. Good for you

100 Acre Woods
100 Acre Woods 2011-10-17 19:32:05 -0500 Report

I have been taking Metformin for years. So far so good. Also have been taking Actos which has been linked to bladder cancer. Also so far so good. They both do a very good job to keep me in check w/diet. I will say that Metformin or Actos alone does not do the trick. You might want to Check whether you can take Actos plus Met. It probably will work best rather than Met alone. Actos is very expensive but you can get it free from the Manufacturer; if you qualify. You cannot have any health insurance and can only make much money annually.

jean m
jean m 2011-10-17 19:47:41 -0500 Report

i take metform to

lori lorchid
lori lorchid 2011-10-17 22:54:35 -0500 Report

Wow Jayabee I didn't know that aout metformin. I take 1000mg 2x' a day and have for 4yrs besides 30 mg actos 1 day and gliberide 5mg 2x's day. I'm calling my Dr.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-18 13:38:39 -0500 Report

I was on Met for about 10 years when I had the problem with my kidneys. And obviously since we all react differently to the same substance (food, drink, meds) you may or may not have that happen to you. But I feel it would be better to say something so that folks could raise the issue with Dr and have your kidney functions checked more closely to see if something is happening there.

Sweet Tammy
Sweet Tammy 2011-10-16 14:39:11 -0500 Report

Go to the hospital for your meds-then while you are there see if you qualify for free meds. They may even have the paperwork there for you to fill out. Why is it you do not want to take the Metformin? Would you rather have to do insulin?

stirringtime
stirringtime 2011-10-17 15:10:00 -0500 Report

no the metformin is fine, dont want the needles..lol, i have my meds from the dr now and walmart for $4 ea just the strips and lancets i dont

SFDiane
SFDiane 2011-10-16 14:22:00 -0500 Report

If you live near a CVS, I understand they will give you a free meter kit and also, I heard from a family member, free metformin. You should find your local Community Health Center. They will supply the kit and free strips and lancets. It can be a while to get a first appointment depending on where you live, but it's worth taking the time to use this resource. You are worth it.

Mickey/CCHT
Mickey/CCHT 2011-10-15 23:44:50 -0500 Report

Have you tried calling your local health dept to c if they can help. Also if you have a Red Cross around they might be able to help. When my mom needed help they gave her testing supplies and insulin. Good Luck

stirringtime
stirringtime 2011-10-16 00:06:40 -0500 Report

No I have tried that but thank you My son went and brought me a cheap all in one disposable for now anyhow my numbers after dinner were 163 is that ok

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-15 18:44:53 -0500 Report

To have increased your Metformin by 2500, you must be off on your A1C. I am sure others have or will give you concrete advice. Mine is simple. Limit yourself to 2 carb servings or 30 grams of carbs per meal. Count everything you consume, including milk on cereal.

TsalagiLenape
TsalagiLenape 2011-10-15 10:32:28 -0500 Report

How much were you taking before?

stirringtime
stirringtime 2011-10-15 16:32:54 -0500 Report

I was taking Met 500mg 1x day since June now she says she is raising it to 500mg 2x day and also my cholesterol is bad so that limits a lot. I never really have had a stable eating regimen just picked thru the day and ate more of a meal at night, meat and veggies usually. sometimes have things like sandwiches, pasta with meatballs or meat sauce or chicken I try to make a balanced meal but not always

msbadgirl
msbadgirl 2011-10-16 15:59:39 -0500 Report

The cholesterol goes hand in hand with elevated blood sugar levels. My doctor told me once I get my blood sugar down more I should also see a drop in my cholesterol levels to determine if she wants to put me on a cholesterol medication. I have Hashimoto's Thryroiditis (hypothryoidism) also, which also means higher cholesterol levels without proper treatment. Talk to your doctor more about the impact your blood sugar levels could be affecting your cholesterol levels and request a referral to a nutritionist for additional support.

dIDYMUS
dIDYMUS 2011-10-20 00:08:03 -0500 Report

Thanks for the info. My Dr. didn't tell me that cholesterol goes up with diabetes. I used to have great cholesterol.

BEVERLYLREED
BEVERLYLREED 2011-10-15 07:05:51 -0500 Report

Please share your eating habits with me so I can learn. I have to loose weight as well. I just ate a pretty healthy breakfast, I think, time to get on my elliptical for a 1/2 hour, then off to the grocery store. I really need a grocery list and so far I am not doing well in finding low carb lists.. ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated.

Dina Warner
Dina Warner 2011-10-17 09:58:09 -0500 Report

Beverly,
My husband and I switched to flat out bread, it tastes great and we use it for sanwiches instead of regular bread . It comes in all kinds of flavors, like whole grain, basil and olive oil and it is gluten free. We also use wraps instead of bread. It is great for chicken salad, tuna salad, hot dogs(we use turkey dogs) and even for subs, just puit whatever you want on it and roll it. Low in carbs and high in fiber! Hope this helped some. Good Luck, Dina

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-15 08:03:59 -0500 Report

OK here is the rough menu that I follow

I have discontinued eating bread of any kind (biscuits, buns, tortillas cornbread, ect) I eat a low carb high protein menu.

For breakfast I eat 2 hard boiled eggs and a small serving of fruit. (usually 1/4 or 1/2 C depending on the carb yield of the fruit. My usual is 1 small clementine orange. But if I am out of the clementines I also eat mostly berries as they are lower on the glycemic index than many other fruits. I stay away from bananas as they are quite high in carbs and also are not good for me due to my kidney issues. Too much potassium.

(Really what you can have is more determined by how your metabolism reacts to certain foods or drinks. (At the end of this I will add how I determine MY body's reaction to a certain food or drink. Since we are all different what may spike me may not spike you and vice versa. )

BACK To the Menu:

For lunch, I generally grill (on a Geo Foreman grill) a boneless skinless chicken breast. I add to that NON or LOW starch vegetables. Green Beans, Broccoli, Calulflower, "California Blend" mix, or stir fry, or Zucchini, or yellow squash.
I haven't developed a taste for brussels sprouts yet, but that is OK too, I think,

I choose one of my usual fruit choices (from the breakfast menu)

(Your taste buds and your meter will be your guide there)

For the evening meal I usually eat a grilled (same method) hamburg pattie (85/15%). I add to that one of the Veggie choices from the lunch menu and one of the fruit choices from the Breakfast menu. I usually pick out veggies or fruits I have not had already that day.

For variety I sometimes Roast a turkey breast in the oven and serve it in the place of one of the protein selections.

Likewise I either make or heat up frozen meatballs and use them in place of one of the protein selections also.

I could also use baked fish, but I haven't yet gotten brave enough to cook it.

This is about as far as I have gone in pulling together a menu. If it seems boring, it may be for you, (I know my bride would not like it — but she was a "foodie") but I do quite well on what I have chosen.

you are looking for carb charts. They're ok for general use (the same with the Glycemic index), but to tailor your food to what works best for YOUR specific metabolism, you would be wise to let your meter tell you how a particluar food or drink is metabolized by YOUR body.

This is what I do: What I do is to for me is tp take a BG reading before I test a food. That is my "baseline" reading. I determine what a "serving" of a particular food is using either foodpicker.org (http://foodpicker.org/) or nutrition data.com (http://nutritiondata.self.com/) or ( http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/4486.asp ) eat a recommended portion of that food. Then 2 hrs lafter my first bite I take a "postpramdial" reading. That will tell me how much that particular portion of food has raised my BG levels over my baseline readings. If it raises my BG less than 50 pts, I may eat that portion without much trouble. If it raises my BG over 50 then I need decide whether it is too much over 50 or not and I may want to retest it with a lower portion size. If it is closer to a 100 pts raise then I usually decide to avoid that food altogether.

I then put a page in my 3 ring binder with that food on it, and record the baseline, the portion conumed and the postprandial results, and my decisions made, whether to retest with a lower portion, and then results of that test, or if I decided to avoid that food altogether.

I do that so I remember what I've tested and what my decisions were, so I don't have to test again needlessly.

That way I have my very own book of what works for ME and my metabllism specifically.

I pray I have been clear in my presentation and that you understand this. If you have questions I am happy to entertain them

Blessings to you and yours

James

BEVERLYLREED
BEVERLYLREED 2011-10-15 08:30:02 -0500 Report

Thank you James… I have copied your plan in my directory to review. I wasn't told to measure my BG levels though, is that because I am "per-diabetes" I wonder. Just got done doing my 30 mins on the elliptical.. time to get busy with house work and then grocery shopping.. UGH!!!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-15 09:39:56 -0500 Report

Was that you who asked about the metering earlier?

Ask Dr (or look in your plan details) to find out if "PreDs" are covered for preventative care (which would be metering in this case) If not you can ask Dr to go to bat for you with the ins co. as something deemed "medically necessary" to prevent Diabetes, or you can find one and pay for it and the stips out of pocket. ( probably less hassle) I understand the reli-on meter and strips sold at Wal-mart are inexpensive and work well.

You can also get a meter for free online or at many Dr offices. The problem with that is that the strips used by the "free" meter are useually quite expensive. you end up paying for the "free" meter many times over during the life of the meter. Check it out. Go to a pharmacy and check on the price of 100 strips on some of those "free" meters. Sometimes over $100 per 100 strips.

And if you use your meter as you ought (3x/day MINIMUM) you will burn up a LOT of strips. and just getting to know YOUR own body and how it metabolizes food and drink will use more.

People with Diabetes (PWD) (and you decided you are one) ought to normally test 3X/day.

If a doc puts a PWD on a glucose altering medication and does not provide a meter to test or instruct them to test, it is IMO borderline malpractice. The PWD could have a BG low and have no way to find out that they are low. The only signs are the symptoms of a low. And that only tells a PWD THAT their BG level is changing. You might want to ask Dr what he was thinking by not telling you to test. Share with Doc what I said about the reasons every PWD should test a minimum of 3 X/day.

The 3 times per day every PWD should be testing is first thing after getting up before you've eaten anything. That is your "fasting" BG reading.

The 2nd test should be 2 hours AFTER the first bite of any meal. That is called the "post-prandial" test. You can rotate between meals for different days. For example on Monday you test after breakfast, for Tues. after lunch and Wed after the evening meal. and so forth through the week.

The 3rd would your before bed test. You don't want to go too low while sleeping (essentially 8+ hours of fasting) and have your liver dump in the night and you wonder why your BG was so high in the morning. It is called the "dawn effect" If your BG is getting down to certain levels, (like 130) you might want to eat a slow digesting carb and a protein. Search discussions for "dawn effect" for more information.

It has been a long night, and I need to get to bed now, so further discussions will have to wait till later.

blessings!

dIDYMUS
dIDYMUS 2011-10-20 00:14:18 -0500 Report

I have a Dr. that says there is no such thing as pre-diabetes, either you have it or you don't However, I was told 6 or 7 years ago that I was pre-diabetic and I should start a "healthy" diet, which is really the same one everybody should be on. (Low carb, High protein, no white stuff, bread, sugar and flour. Wish I had listened, because I now understand that I could have prevented diabetes, or so they say now. It's also great to weight loss. Try diabetic receipes on the internet, and a bunch should show up.

BEVERLYLREED
BEVERLYLREED 2011-10-15 05:29:21 -0500 Report

I have to take 1 500 mg a day the first week, the 2nd week I have to take 2 a day, the 3rd week I have to take 3 a day and the 4th week I have to take 4 a day… How do you feel taking Metformin, does it make you sick or anything else? I am not a pill popper and I hate the thought of taking this pill forever… but if it will help me live longer and healthier I guess I will have to :). Isn't there a website that you can go to for help with free supplies due to you not having insurance.

stirringtime
stirringtime 2011-10-16 00:00:18 -0500 Report

I remember when I started taking the Metformin I did feel nauseated and uncomfortable and then it went away now my 2nd day after raising it I don't feel that well again guess it's back. I was good today, well pretty good anyhow. Had 2 small pieces of grilled boneless chicken about a scoop (3 Lg tbsp) of potato egg salad and an orange flavored cupcake see I said almost..

msbadgirl
msbadgirl 2011-10-15 18:35:34 -0500 Report

Hey Beverly/Stir..I'm on the same amt as you. I take 2 500 2x a day in addition to my insulin regime. I agree Metformin can have rough side effects BUT..it's benefits outway the risks (fyi risks can be reduced by your doctor's monitoring of kidney function). Metformin helps your body work with insulin to reduce the natural resistance diabetics have. Easing onto the medication is the best way to minimize the side effects. Once it's built up into your system and you take it regularly and consistancy..the side affects are usually minimal. I still occassional take an OTC med to counter stomach issues. As for the insurance issues…talk to your doctor and check your local state funded health clinics..most of them can help you with prescription assistance. I was unemployed for almost a year and I struggled with managing my diabetes until I found out about a clinic in my old hometown. I was able to get free or discounted prescriptions until I found a new job & got insurance again.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-15 06:42:55 -0500 Report

Howdy Beverly and Stirringtime!

I took "Met" for about 10 yrs until I landed in the hospital for renal shutdown due to an infection and had to go on dialysis. The hospital discontinued the Met and put me on insulin. No one at the hospital said any thing about it. And at the time I was "out of it" mostly.

Much later I find out that Met is implicicated in damage to kidneys of some people. Being on those high doses could harm your kidneys ( I think I remember I was on 1000 mg per day)

Because I am T2 and am putting out some insulin on my own I have experemented (with my Dr's knowledge) with managing my Blood Glucose (BG) levels through what I eat. I have done wondrfully. I started Feb2011 and have continued my eating plan to this date (Oct 2011) and plan to continue. My BG levels have been normal or close to it. My May 2011 A1c was 5.5 and I have lost about 50 lbs of weight. (I don't know exactly cause I wasn't paying attention to the scale at that time - but it was in that neighborhood)

I do not encourage you to discontinue your medications with out talking to your Dr about it. But I WOULD encourage both of you to modify your eating plan. When I was on meds I ate too many carbs.

Today I don't eat breads of any kind. I am on a low carbohydrate high protein menu. Should you be interested in it I am happy to share it.

My hope is that by sharing what I do with you I can save you a few years of trial and error and hopefully head off some potentially painful, debilitating and embarasssing

I pray you get your diabetes under good control somehow.

Blessings to you both and to all of yours

James Baker

SomiLeke
SomiLeke 2011-10-18 01:09:06 -0500 Report

Hello Mr. Baker,

I find your article very enlightening. I've been a diabetic since 1996 and was on Actos for a few years, only recently did my new physician took me off the Actos because of the bladder cancer news. She increased the Metformin by 1,000 mg, so instead of 1,000 mg a day since a week ago; now it's 2,000 mg a day. I've been on Metformin since the beginning of my diabetes Type II and I take Glipzide 15mg each day. I've noticed since the discontinued usage of Actos, my blood sugar has escalated somewhat. I've decided to curtail my food intake and change my ways of eating since more veggies in my meal plan is beneficial for me. I've also decided to join a gym which has a heated pool so I can swim at least 5 days a week. I know that not everyone is the same and each and everyone of us has to deal w/Diabetes in the best way possible but hopefully w/the help of my endocrinologist and my regular doctor, my blood sugar will again be as controled as it was B4. I love to eat bread but I see now that this will be none existent in my daily intake.
I would really appreciate it if you were to share your menu w/me.

Sincerely,

Jesus D. Perez

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-18 04:09:12 -0500 Report

I am happy to Jesus, WELCOME to DC!

I actually had shared this up above, but will share it again.

I have discontinued eating bread of any kind (biscuits, buns, tortillas cornbread, ect) I eat a low carb high protein menu. (There are flours out there which are very low carb, but unless you bake bread yourself, it is not that useful for you, plus it is expensive, in the neighorhood of $4 per pound. )

For breakfast I eat 2 hard boiled eggs and a small serving of fruit. (usually 1/4 or 1/2 C depending on the carb yield of the fruit. My usual is 1 small clementine orange. But if I am out of the clementines I also eat mostly berries as they are lower on the glycemic index than many other fruits.

(Really what you can have is more determined by how your metabolism reacts to certain foods or drinks. (At the end of this I will add how I determine MY body's reaction to a certain food or drink. Since we are all different what may spike me may not spike you and vice versa. )

BACK To the Menu:

For lunch, I generally grill (on a Geo Foreman grill) a boneless skinless chicken breast. I add to that NON or LOW starch vegetables. Green Beans, Broccoli, Calulflower, "California Blend" mix, or stir fry, or Zucchini, or yellow squash.
I haven't developed a taste for brussels sprouts yet, but that is OK too, I think,

I choose one of my usual fruit choices (from the breakfast menu)

(Your taste buds and your meter will be your guide there)

For the evening meal I usually eat a grilled (same method) hamburg pattie (85/15%). I add to that one of the Veggie choices from the lunch menu and one of the fruit choices from the Breakfast menu. I usually pick out veggies or fruits I have not had already that day.

For variety I sometimes Roast a turkey breast in the oven and serve it in the place of one of the protein selections.

Likewise I either make or heat up frozen meatballs and use them in place of one of the protein selections also.

I pray this is helpful to you.

James

SomiLeke
SomiLeke 2011-10-18 18:12:33 -0500 Report

Thank you very much James, I will try to find suitable veggies I like and I've bought hamburgr paties at Trader Joe's which are organic grain beef (Kobe beef-although a bit more exp but well worth for my health), I've joined a gym so I can go swimming and exercising in the warm water. I eat turkey almost every other day. And as far as veggies are concerned I love them all except beets, never did like them. So, thank you very much for welcoming me in the group. I hope we keep in touch throughout our diabetic journey. My greatest accomplishment will be to eliminate it completely. My sugar has been controlled since 1996 when I became a diabetic and now I'm just tired of having to prick my fingers every day, so I want to eradicate diabetes from my system. Metformin might or not be bad for us, but any pills for anything are bad for us and other than vitamins and/or minerals, I don't want to take any of any kind for anything anymore. Take care, Jesus