high #'s then rapid drop

By diva53d Latest Reply 2011-11-25 00:34:48 -0600
Started 2011-10-13 16:52:20 -0500

Hi All, I am type 2 and I am getting confused. Here is what's happening to me. I eat a proper meal and 2 hours later my #'s soar to 7.3 then about 30 mins later it's at 4.3.
Does anyone else have this problem? I am not sure if this is normal or not. If I should contact m y Dr. I am not on any meds yet trying to control with diet and exercise.


17 replies

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-10-14 15:12:54 -0500 Report

Donna: you spoke of your A1C #'s but not yoor BS #'s. I think you have the 2 confused. It is not normal for your BS to soar high and then drop you low within 30 minutes. When this started happening to me I was diagnosed with Briddle Diabetes. I had to change my eat habit ASAP…not my habits so much, but what I was eating. Anything high in sugars or carbs will take you high then drop you on your bottom. I suggest you talk to yur Dr. as soon as possibe about a good eating plan.

P.S. I just read jaybee52"s reply to you, I didn't know there was such a meter to measure your A1C at home. I still think you would get a much closer watch on your BS with a meter that tests your BS.

annesmith 2011-10-17 00:29:39 -0500 Report

HI…my diabetes was diagnosed severe severe brittle when I was 35…I had years of untreated childhood diabetes. My blood sugars are like lightning…they always have been …I take it now, it might be 180, then , in 10 minutes , it might be 300, then in an hour it might be 200——-I too at one point had to seriously SERIOUSLY sit down and think about what causes mine to change the most dangerously. In my case, it's bread and starches, however, I went for a long long time not eating enough of them. Caffiene is either my best friend or worst enemy, depending on the time of day I have it. If I have just 2 cups of coffee with creamer and some sugar, it works for me——sets me really high, but I had such severe lows after trying Metformin for a year and a half, I vowed I will never go through lows like that again…My 2 hours are always at least 200, and my after meals are enormously high—-always in the 200s, 300, and 500s, sometimes 600s…I was almost admitted for diabetic kedoacidosis 3 times in the last 4 years…write me back…ANNE

Degibu 2011-10-18 08:17:25 -0500 Report

Well, very little starch/carbs is called for and as for ANY sugar in your coffee, that's a definite NO. Those numbers you're quoting are very, very frightening. I gave up carbs and sugars and my numbers, as I've posted are always between 95 - 120 and if they're over 120 at any point, that's very high for me, either before meals or after.

jayabee52 2011-10-15 11:26:50 -0500 Report

Howdy Peggy

yes there is an A1c meter for home use, but as I recall that is not to what I was referring.

I was referring to 2 different ways of measuring BG on a regular meter. Most of the meters I have used have a selector for either the way we commonly use here in the USA, the mg/dl measurement the other way of measuring the amount of glucose in one's blood is used by europeans and British subjects. That measurement is the mmol/L measuring system. Both are measuring the same thing.

It is like the difference using a yardstick, based on inches and feet, and a meter stick where something is measured in milimeters, centimeters and so forth.

I suspect that Donna (Diva) is living in a country which uses the mmol/L mesurement Her numbers may LOOK to us like A1c numbers but from the context of the original post I think those were not A1c readings. Unless I am sadly mistaken. ( I thought I was wrong once but it turned out I was mistaken —- LoL!)

Type1Lou 2011-11-24 12:34:26 -0600 Report

The Canadians also measure BG using mmol/L. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all had a "universal" standard? When I discuss my diabetes with Canadian relatives, they need to translate my mg/dl readings to the mmol/L readings for it to make sense to them. But, I'm thankful that we have meters and a way to measure our control…so much better than when Dad coped with his diabetes 60 years ago!

valentine lady
valentine lady 2011-10-15 11:46:13 -0500 Report

James: Thanks for the information, it never occured to me she may be from a differant country. I've learned a new thing once again from you. Your pretty sharp! Have a great weekend…Peggy

jayabee52 2011-10-17 04:56:18 -0500 Report

thank you for your kind words Peggy! Something like it has happened to me previously during the time I.ve been on DC.

jayabee52 2011-10-13 19:13:11 -0500 Report

Howdy Donna!

If you are using a mmol/L meter to measure your Blood Glucose (BG) levels your levels are not all that bad IMO. You could bring the 7.9 (142 mg/dL) down just a bit, and unless your BG is below 3 (60 mg/dL) you will be fine.

I understand that you are trying to manage your BG through what you eat, and that is FANTASTIC. I am doing the same after being on diabetes meds for nearly 15 years. It looks like you might wish to tame that sweet tooth a bit, to bring your BGs down to the 4 to 7 mmol/L range (80-120 mg/dL)

By the way where is your mountain home located?

Sounds nice!

James Baker

Harlen 2011-10-13 18:41:01 -0500 Report

Thats a bit high but not way out there and theu=y do come back down I would chat with your Doc they may swich your meds??
Best wishes

Degibu 2011-10-13 18:06:34 -0500 Report

What numbers are you referring to? Those sound like an A1C reading, which is a test that will tell you your average blood glucose levels for a 3 month period, and the test should only be given every 2 to 3 months. Do you test your sugar levels with a glucometer? Those readings should be (pre-meal or 2 hours after eating) between 90 - 115.

annesmith 2011-10-17 00:32:10 -0500 Report

Good God…no offense here, but I have never had my 2 hour readings between 90 and 115——mine are always at least 200——my after meals are always 300-600. Write me back…ANNE

Degibu 2011-10-18 08:12:26 -0500 Report

I work for a doctor, the one who actually diagnosed my diabetes so I am ALWAYS reading/researching diabetes facts. ANY book on diabetes from the American Diabetic Association will tell you that the numbers you're listing are WAY too high. Those are considered "uncontrolled" diabetes and are extremely dangerous readings, especially the after meal numbers. 300 to 600?!?! We've hospitalized patients that come in with reading like that. Please be very careful. My suggestion is to visit a diabetologist and/or a nutritionist. I don't know what you're eating but if it is good food then maybe you need a change in medication or maybe need to add insulin, if you're not already taking it. My numbers are ALWAYS within the 90 to 125 range and when it's 125, that's very high for me.

annesmith 2011-10-19 00:05:26 -0500 Report

Thank you for the good advice. I was diagnosed as severe severe brittle type 2 initially, but the internist said he was going to see how I reacted to Metformin first. My pancreas rejected it…it set me too low. I responded beautifully to insulin in the emergency room, as it hit 701 one night, and I almost died. However, I seriously need to find my old A1C numbers, as they turned up missing, then, the Metformin put me in what they call a LOW STATE for a long time , from mid 2005-late 2007. An internist in 1996 said I was type 1, and wanted to start me on Humalog insulin, but I had very little food back then, as I became unemployed . So, in fear of landing too low , I did not take the insulin. What is really crazy is my diabetes turned up in not the A1C so much as it did in another diabetic test, and I can't find the record of it now…it's very very very frustrating——so, finally a really good clinic I go to now for my sleep meds found the record from 1996 about 3 months ago—-it was lost for a long time for some reason or another, so the doctors scratched their heads…understandable. The GAB test—I think it's called that I tested positive for and the antibodies one I believe was positive , too. Nothing is worse than a lost record, and that's what set me back for a long time. When I was over half starved, my A1C was an 8, along with triglycerides of 150——-for some reason or another—-something to do with my metabolism, my diabetes show up atrociously in one diabetic test, but not so much in the A1c. I am rapidly looking for another internist, as the 2 I had were excellent, but one died of cancer about 10 years ago, and the other I was turned away from because I could no longer afford him. You are right—-my after meals are dangerously high, and my 2 hours——seems to me my body has no insulin coverage while I am eating and after I eat. I ended up in the emergency room in 2009, and the physician there did a beta cell insulin test—-it showed my beta cells produce 6%-10% insulin. Anything under 20% is not good. He said a nondiabetic produces anywhere from 93%-100% I think. The missing pieces to my puzzle are finally coming through…it was the lost record of my initial diagnosis in 1996 that set me back the most really. I had to start on over again basically…but it's all pointing right back to the initial diagnosis. I have years of untreated childhood diabetes——they said it probably started off as type 2 when I was born, then progressed to type 1——I had diabetic seizures for years, but usually they would happen at night when I was sleeping…when I was 6 years old, my family doctor said my fasting was 160—-but he took a urine test the next year and the urine was spilled on the way to the doctor——he said he had to start me on insulin if my urine output was way high, along with the 160 fasting, but, the urine turned in was only partial because it was spilled——I was too young to answer his questions, so I got too shy on him—-I was extremely extremely shy as a child, and I told him I felt healthy——-nothing could have been farthest from the truth…he scratched his head, said he repeatedly could smell SO much sugar on my breath it about knocked him over from age 4 on up…SO, I will keep rapidly searching for a new internist, endocronologist…I"m getting closer——-I was almost admitted for kedoacidosis 3 times in the last 4 years, but, my A1C shows low——only 5.9, YET, everytime I have been in the E.R. over the last 3 years, they took my sugar and it showed KEYTONES almost every single time———I seriously need to find the other diabetic test where my diabetes showed up—-nothing is worse really, because that's a nondiabetic number—-A1C of 5.9———wierd, yes, but I was diagnosed diabetic without a doubt when I was 35——in 2005. Most peoples' show up in the A1C…so, when I go to talk to people, it's hard for me to talk about the A1C——when I get enough to eat, my average fastings are 300-430 ———when I don't have enough to eat, I have a diabetic seizure in the middle of the night——-I now have enough to eat everyday now, though…so, I am trying to stabilize my after meals out more while searching for a new internist, as , I do not want to go blind or related——thank you again———write me back if you have time——my triglycerides were almost 500 3 months ago——-my internist the last time said my A1C actually would double to around 16 if I had enough to eat everyday—-it's creeping up fast—real fast, but, even still , I need to find the record of the other diabetic test I had done——sincerely, ANNE

jayabee52 2011-10-13 18:57:42 -0500 Report

Howdy Degibu WELCOME to DC!

I suspect Donna (diva) is not based in the USA.

The europeans and most of the world use a different metric scheme (mmol/Ll) than we do in the USA to measure blood. It sometimes causes confusion among us in the USA who are used to the mg/dL system.

Here is a little tool where someone can convert metric system one to the other and back again: http://diabeticgourmet.com/Tools_and_Calculat...

Running it through the converter the 7.9 = 142 mg/dL and the 4.3 = 77 mg/dL

Donna, where is your mountain home located?

Blessings to you and yours


Degibu 2011-10-18 08:15:14 -0500 Report

Thanks for the info jayabee. I'm hoping that's what the problem is, because those numbers she quoted scare the HECK out of me! :)

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