High numbers

besther414
By besther414 Latest Reply 2011-11-14 00:28:02 -0600
Started 2011-10-06 12:01:02 -0500

Hey!! I'm soo aggrivated!!! Tuesday my employers had a company come in and do blood work on all of us. Part of a new wellness program that they are starting. ALL of my numbers were way too high!! I don't understand it. I eat healthy. Vegetables, fruits, chicken breasts, salmon. I was eating a lot of eggs. Probably about 4-6 a week. And I love me some coffee!!! I use splenda and organic half and half in it at home and at work it's Splenda and the powdered creamer. But still!!! Why does my body hate me!!! I feel a binge coming on. I mean, why bother? Right now, the only thing that is stopping me from binging is knowing what it will do to my bs. I go to my doctor Monday and I get the results from his blood work taken a month ago. Maybe, there has been some improvement. Oh and btw, I do zumba 5 times a week.


112 replies

pixsidust
pixsidust 2011-11-13 12:30:04 -0600 Report

I think knowing I am having blood work curtails my thoughts of eating wrong. I never go all out with that so I do not think binging applies. Just a cheat, now and again!

Mickey/CCHT
Mickey/CCHT 2011-10-20 17:31:27 -0500 Report

Im with msbadgirl. I would just go with what you and your doc are doing.Are you pre, or are you full on D? Have you talked with a dietician, or nutrisonist(sorry bout spelling)? Maybe they could help you tweek your diet. I've been hearing alot about certain foods reacting with eachother. Just a thougt. Well good luck to you! Peace

msbadgirl
msbadgirl 2011-10-16 16:18:49 -0500 Report

Maybe it's just the caffeine & stress? I also would not go off the numbers provided by a company hired by your employer to promote health & wellness. I've seen numbers "elevated" to push employees to force..em…"encourage" change. Don't give up. Stick to your regime…talk to your doctor. Hope all is well at your checkup.

EJMac
EJMac 2011-10-11 16:10:04 -0500 Report

I know that I was surprised on what healthy portions were. I actually need alot less food that I eat. My numbers are better when I write down what I eat for a week or tw including the amounts. It helps to know what my body needs for good numbers.

Roy531
Roy531 2011-10-11 07:40:36 -0500 Report

One very important thing you did not mention. Do you do any type of exercise? I started walking and it improved all my numbers. Cholesterol went down, triglycerides went down and my A1C went down. Just a thought.

Roy

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2011-10-11 18:24:33 -0500 Report

FYI Roy, Zumba is a pretty strenuous exercise/dance routine which besther noted she does 5x a week.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-10 15:49:22 -0500 Report

Ok, I went to my doctors today and got my results. Here they are.
Cholesterol total: 208
Triglycerides: 142
HDL cholesterol: 37
A1C: 11.4
I know, it's bad!

pixsidust
pixsidust 2011-11-14 00:28:02 -0600 Report

Actually when I got diagnosed in Feb my triglycerides were 1051 and my cholesterol 348. They are now Triglycerides 157 and cholesterol 200. My A1c was 8.9 and now is 6.5. We all have something to work on!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 09:52:53 -0500 Report

I am so glad that someone beat me on the A1C score! Of course I better shut up, I get my new one of Friday.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-13 10:50:06 -0500 Report

Hey no fair!!! I didn't know this was a competition!!! I thought the higher the number the better!!! You cheat!!!! ROFLMBO!!!!!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 09:58:24 -0500 Report

Oh well, I am still lower than you. I just called 9.7. Hopefully now that my wife left, I will be less stressful and will be able to control my diet better by not even buying the no-no's.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-12 10:02:53 -0500 Report

the downside is you won't have anyone else to blame it on except the guy looking back at you in the mirror. —- or are you going to tell me you don't have a reflection in a mirror?

DARRELL EDGELL
DARRELL EDGELL 2011-10-10 19:45:53 -0500 Report

Stress is a bad factor also, just try to keep it under control.

kimmy4u41
kimmy4u41 2011-10-12 13:52:27 -0500 Report

This is such a true statement. This Summer a friend of mine flew me to California as i was going through a tough time. My sugars were 400 to 500 no matter what I did. When I was on my vacation it was 80 to 90 110 after I ate , so stress is a killer.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2011-10-10 15:54:34 -0500 Report

OK, you know it's bad. What steps do you plan on taking to get better numbers?

2011-10-10 16:43:46 -0500 Report

Hey J~A~B~~ would fish work okay? In lieu of the chic breast? I'm not much a fan of fowl. It's too fowl tasting!! (:-D

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-12 08:22:39 -0500 Report

Yes, lisa, fish works Just as well as any other kind of protein. I myself am not a big fan of fish, but will generally eat it if it is served to me. I grew up on a dairy farm in the midwest, so my tastes generally run toward "turf' rather than "surf"

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 14:45:11 -0500 Report

Okay, a more serious reply. Do you really want to know a possible answer? Okay, here it is. For 1 week record everything that goes into you mouth, except water, that is free. I found it really helpful when I recorded the stuff I would have had if I wasn't recording everything that went into my mouth. I just wonder if there are not some insignificant things that are sneaking their way into your mouth out of habit. Why? Because your posted intake seems to be right on target. If that does not give you a clue as to what the problem may be, go to Walmart and trade your body in for a different model.

swlinda
swlinda 2011-10-11 09:09:06 -0500 Report

I love your reply, I have been wanting to order a good looking man out of a catalog for years. Seriously, you may have been having a bad day. I know if I get upset, my numbers go up. It is hard being a social worker to keep my stress level under control. The things I see make my blood boil at times.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 10:01:05 -0500 Report

I hear you loud and clear. Especially in abuse and neglect cases. Guess you can't bring a 45 to work and just eliminate the problems? I suspect they frown on that!
Next…"I beat up my wife" Boom! Next…"I neglect my children" Boom! Next…

swlinda
swlinda 2011-10-13 07:29:39 -0500 Report

The problem is that instead of me having the 45, they have the 45. I love the way the police sit out in their car and send us in with no protection. So far I have been able to defuse most situations but there is always that one time.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-13 10:57:58 -0500 Report

That is worse. I thought they were coming to you in an office. Domestic disputes are the highest sources of police injuries/deaths. Look on the bright side. You keep at this job and you won't have diabetes for long! I know, sick.

swlinda
swlinda 2011-10-13 11:23:48 -0500 Report

Thankfully I have already been at this job for a long time and well in 65 in 15 months and can retire. Now all I have to do is talk down bad situations for 15 more months.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-10-11 08:24:37 -0500 Report

…that is great advice…I was nodding my head right along with your post…till I got to the Walmart trade-in post! LOL…and this is Jim's "more serious reply" ; )

besther414
besther414 2011-10-13 11:03:27 -0500 Report

Does Jim have a serious side!!! All of his "serious" posts have me rolling on floor laughing!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-13 11:32:52 -0500 Report

When I say it is a serious post, I am usually weaving facts, or what I believe to be facts, and finish up with something that probably isn't a fact. We deal with stuff everyday like those A1C #'s, BG #'s. physical, mental, & spiritual trials, and sometimes we need to stop and laugh at ourselves or at what is posted. Like today when I went to Walmart to get my RX's filled. I figured it would be a good time to see if they had my model on clearance yet. Too late, they already sold out.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-13 11:42:17 -0500 Report

Wow. there are some really desperate people in DC land. Actually, most of the time, I love being me. I am blessed so abundantly, I almost slip on the blessings that pour forth. This weekend we have 179 kids coming for a retreat and I am looking forward to it, and so is my dog, Shadow!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 14:39:50 -0500 Report

Sounds to me like you need to do one of my grandmother's banana splits 3 times a week.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-10 17:28:11 -0500 Report

You know what I think Jim, I think you are a very bad man!!!! LOL!!!! Trying to tempt me with your grandmother's banana splits!!!! HEHEHEHEHESNORTHEHEHE!!!!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 10:04:00 -0500 Report

If that didn't work, there was always the Irish side of her, the other cures.
Red Wine, it cured about anything when we were kids. Actually it put us to sleep, which was usually part of the formula for getting better. Then there is the hot toddy cure…Hey, she lived to be 93.

2011-10-10 17:34:48 -0500 Report

Hey besther~~ You must share those banana splits w/me!! LOL :D I'll even let you have all the chocolate and strawberry ice cream. I'll even throw in all the maraschino cherries that you can consume!! :D

AutoX
AutoX 2011-10-09 03:19:55 -0500 Report

Why do you have to wait a month to get the results from your blood tests? My doctor has one of his nurses call me within a couple of days with the results. That way I know how I am doing. Also, I usually take my home blood tester to the doctors and check the results of his tests against mine (kind of a calibration to make sure mine is accurate). I also have the doctor give me a copy of the results of the tests the next time I go in for an appointment. I am now keeping a log so that I can go back and determine why things have changed (e.g. I was on vacation and did not maintain my usual diet because i was eating out a lot more, etc.).

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-10-11 08:37:31 -0500 Report

my husband and I both get our blood work done at our PC Dr's office…he sends it out, in a day or two, when it comes back he sends us a copy, and calls me..if anything is out of wack..had never called my husband till this past Sept - then Dr. called HIM, as he had high BG, a slight UT Iinfection, and his cholesterol was too high, ha-ha…usually I'm the one with goofy numbers. Dr. only calles with out of normal range #'s.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 10:05:37 -0500 Report

Sounds to me like you enjoyed your husband's higher numbers a little too much!

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-10-12 10:38:39 -0500 Report

I would hate to say "I told you so" to him…but, I'd been telling our Dr. and Pyne that he was Diabetic for over 3 yrs! So they finally did A1c. We also knew his cholesterol was elevated. But the UTI was a surprise for all of us.
So, I'm just enjoying the "I was Right !" feeling a bit…

AutoX
AutoX 2011-10-11 18:35:46 -0500 Report

It is great that he sends you a copy!!! While my doctor calls whether the results are good or bad, I have to wait until I see him to get a copy.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-10-12 10:41:22 -0500 Report

We have to leave a SASE in his office to have a copy mailed out…but it's worth it. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope)

besther414
besther414 2011-10-09 07:44:24 -0500 Report

He doesn't have a lab in his office. At first I scheduled my appt for 10/31, then when I realized that I would have to wait forever I changed ir to the first appt I could get.

AutoX
AutoX 2011-10-09 14:54:46 -0500 Report

For one of my doctors (primary care), I have to go to an outside lab to have the blood drawn. Still, when he gets the results, I get a call. My wife used to go to the same doctor, but for some reason, she never got a call for lab results. I think you need to ask the doctor.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 10:08:15 -0500 Report

I also go to an outside lab a few days before my appointment and have the blood work done. He has the info there when I go into the office. After you posting your A1C, I decided to call. Mine is 9.7. So much for the 2000mg of cinnamon cutting down my sugar.

IMUA
IMUA 2011-10-09 22:34:25 -0500 Report

In response to your original post.If you got it,you got it.That sounds bad but it is not meant to be.I t sounds like you do everything right as far as diet and exercise.So best case sitution you take a pill twice a day.If I do not follow your path of diet and exercise I will be takeing pills and giving myself shoots.Everyday…

Roy531
Roy531 2011-10-08 15:35:11 -0500 Report

Look at the powdered creamers, last time I looked they have a lot of sugar or carbs in them. They may have changed since I looked. I drink coffee every day and it doesn't bother my BS, but everybody's system is different.

Roy

2011-10-11 17:50:53 -0500 Report

I'm addicted to the stuff. But I learned to drink it black. After years of using 1/2 & 1/2. If your always watching your weight, all black coffee is, is flavored water. And it SURE tastes mighty good!!

lacat87
lacat87 2011-10-08 16:07:11 -0500 Report

I use the store brand from Walmart of non-dairly powered creams and it doesn't have but 1 carb per tsp. Doesn't raise my blood sugar at all. I also use the packet of Splenda in my hot tea, don't drink coffee.

Tina1860
Tina1860 2011-10-08 11:48:31 -0500 Report

You didn't say wether you were testing your blood sugars every day or not. If not then you should because it will help pinpoint what is causing you sugars to be so high. To be honest I don't even like eggs that much. There ok in things like tuna salads etc… But I really like the eggbeaters, especially the southwester eggbeater. I use it to make an omelet. I like putting a small amount of asiago cheese and some sliced cherry tomatoes in it. Or what ever you like. I have one of those really small omelet pans so it keeps my portions contained. I thought I was eating pretty healthy as well last year but my blood sugars where through the roof. Going to a diabetic nutritionist helped me tweek my food choices and how much I was eating. It was liberating for me. I am eating things that I like and even more healthely than before and my blood sugars are almost normal. I also go walking at least 4 times a week for about 2 to 3 miles depending on how I feel after coming home from work. Good luck.

Abby888
Abby888 2011-10-08 07:41:01 -0500 Report

Look at the medication(s) you take. I personally started Seroquel for sleep with a warning by my doctor that it can create high blood sugars. And this morning sure enough my blood sugar was 239! It hasn't been that high in a while. Good luck with everything :)

pixsidust
pixsidust 2011-10-07 22:42:55 -0500 Report

Something is causing the blood sugar high. Perhaps the fruit or a beverage other than coffee. Try to put your finger on it and you probably will.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-07 23:37:53 -0500 Report

for some People with diabetes even plain coffee without additions can raise BG numbers. It does for me.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-07 23:44:03 -0500 Report

Ya know, I never tested my blood sugar before and after drinking coffee. Wondering if it is because I don't want to know the results. I WANT MY COFFEEE!!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHESNORTHEHEHEHHEHEHE!!!!!

mebetty
mebetty 2011-10-07 22:03:40 -0500 Report

How are you eating your eggs? also 2 per week is plenty. The egg white is albumen, a mucus protein. The egg yoke which most people discard actually contains the nutrients, so the eggs should be eaten wholly, but not fried and definitely not more than 2 or 3 a week.

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yol...

I only eat one on Saturday mornings with all beef bacon..: ) Not knowing what else is on your menu, I would have to just say watch your portions. Also balance your meals. 1/3 protein, 1/3 carb, 1/3 complex carb. In between meals have a protein shake or nut bar. Zumba 5 times a week?! That is awesome! Good for you! You may need more fiber in your diet. Two things that help me is, a balanced breakfast, and no meals after 6 pm, a light snack if I get hungry, but lots of water in between. Keep us posted.

Betty

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-07 23:54:59 -0500 Report

Howdy Betty!
I read your article from the link you provided. Very good information! Thank you for posting it.

I wonder why you limit yoursself to 1 egg per week. The good news in the article is that we don't have to worry about the Cholesterol in the eggs we eat as that passes through the digestive tract and is not brought in as high cholesterol into our bodies. I myself eat 2 hardboiled eggs every morning for breakfast every day of the week. I control my BG levels without diabetes meds by eating a low carbohydrate high protein menu. The eggs are an integral part of that menu.

mebetty
mebetty 2011-10-08 06:37:10 -0500 Report

Hi Jay. Hardboiled eggs are best. I find that MY body produces too much mucus so I eat some foods in small quantity. Eggs for some reason is one of them, also milk, cheese and red meat. Some people metabolize these food items very well. For me when I start getting headaches, and feel sinus congestion, I cut down on certain kinds of protein, mainly from animals. The best protein you can eat comes from legumes, most specifically soy beans. But some people can't eat soy. So one has to see and experiment what works best in your own system. When I feel a cold or flu coming on I immediately stop animal proteins, start eating more vegetables and FRESH fruit and it clears almost immediately.

But also I am careful what type of eggs I buy, they are usually the most expensive, the ones from hens that run free and are fed whole grains…(and you hope the labeling is not false)…: )

Thank you for asking James. I am so happy you are able to live with diabetes without meds. I am on my way. This glyburide gives me very low BG - 53 and 60s. So now I took myself off the glyburide. It seems also that I can't take 4 (500 mg each) of metformin as my doctor prescribed, I take only 3 and sometimes 2. So it looks like I am on my way off meds again!!! These meds create havoc on your liver and kidneys with long-term use. So if you can, the best way to beat diabetes is to monitor yourself.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-08 00:03:53 -0500 Report

I just read it also!!! Jaybee, what else do you have for breakfast?

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-08 00:16:27 -0500 Report

I add to the 2 hardboiled eggs, 1 small "clementine" orange or a small portion of fruit (about 1/4 c).

My lunch is usually a hamburger patty (grilled on a Geo Foreman grill, eaten without bread of any kind) a serving of a low starch vegetable like Brocolli or Cauliflower or a "california blend", and then more fruit

For evening meal I eat a boneless/skinless chicken breast (grilled on the Geo Foreman) a different kind of vegetable and a different kind of fruit. That menu has been keeping my BGs in the normal range, and my last A1c in May was 5.5. I have lost about 50 lbs since Feb 2011. It is working for me.

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-10-11 19:24:50 -0500 Report

Hi James, Just wondering…do you take High Blood Pressure Meds?? Cause Oranges and or Orange juice can interfere with certain meds. I love oranges and especially clementines but haven't had one in 25+ years. Doc says it's like NOT taking any meds at all…it just obliterates the meds. Just a thought. Ellen :)

hughsbayou
hughsbayou 2011-10-08 12:38:26 -0500 Report

this is similar to what I've been doing, and with the Metformin I've stayed in the zone of 95 - 125 except right after meals. Trying it without the Met I'm going to 150 right after meals and averaging 100 - 140, so I think I'll stay on the met a bit longer. It's been since April, and I've lost 30 lbs and am now back to the weight I had for over 25 years! I do feel better but have some neuropathy in my feet which I'm undergoing treatment for. It's slightly better, but that's only been for a week so far which is too early to tell.

mebetty
mebetty 2011-10-08 06:40:35 -0500 Report

very good. I actually enjoy the hamburgers more without the buns. I do put plenty of onions and garlic powder in them. Berries are great too. I enjoy all kinds of berries and nectarines.

Awesome James!

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2011-10-08 12:24:48 -0500 Report

I like to add grilled onions, mushrooms, and blue cheese on top of my bunless burger!…maybe a tomato slice too!

besther414
besther414 2011-10-07 23:36:46 -0500 Report

I definately eat too many eggs. Plus, I fried them in either canola or olive oil. I like them with my oatmeal. I will have to find something else now. Thanks for the info.

hughsbayou
hughsbayou 2011-10-08 19:57:03 -0500 Report

The eggs are fine, but don't fry them! And the oatmeal is a problem. Read the label and see for yourself how many carbs are in that bowl of oatmeal. I had to give it up myself. Here I thought I was doing myself a favor with a bowl of oatmeal in the morning and it was sending my BG way up. Now I eat a couple of eggs, some sausage a half an english muffin and a strawberry smoothie for breakfast and things stay pretty even. That's about 500 calories for breakfast so it goes pretty far into the day for me. I have an office job, not too strenuous.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-08 20:08:24 -0500 Report

Perhaps it might be better if she would use her meter to test what oatmeal does to her BG levels. Some people (like me) it spikes. Other people can enjoy a moderate size serving of them. Should you ask me, I will tell you how I test a food to see how it works for MY metabolism specifically.

besther414
besther414 2011-10-08 21:16:07 -0500 Report

Hey Hughsbayou and Jayabee, I wanna say that after a bowl of oatmeal, my b s goes up about 50-55 points.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-08 21:36:08 -0500 Report

You might wish to cut your pirtion size down a bit and test that. What I do has 50 as the break point where I decide to keep the portion the same or not. If it is signifigantly over 50 pts (say 75 +) then I avoid the food altogether. If I were testing for me, I would test again at another time with a lower portion size.

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