Deceptive info

Jim Edwards
By Jim Edwards Latest Reply 2015-12-08 18:58:57 -0600
Started 2011-10-06 11:02:11 -0500

It really gets under my skin when manufacturers print misleading or downright false information on their labels. My boss drinks an energy drink. It is a 16oz can. 28 grams of carbs and 2 servings per can. Now, to me, if it is a 16oz bottle with a cap, you can say it is 2 servings. A can, without a cap, is a one serving can so the carbs on this should be 56 grams or, almost 4 carb servings. This happens with cereal also. I often will pour a bowl, what I would consider to be a "normal" serving, then measure and find it is what the manufacturer considers to be 2-4 servings. By fooling with these numbers manufacturers can make any food "good".
For some reason I don't have a chocolate bar handy, so these are made up numbers. Suppose a chocolate bar has 90 grams of carbs to the bar. Now most people eat the entire bar in one setting. The manufacturer wants the bar to be diabetic friendly so they list the bar as being 8 servings and even score it to break into 8 pieces. So now we have 11.25 grams per piece or, on the front of the bar they can legally print, "Diabetic Friendly. Less than 1 carb (serving) per serving". So, take some time today and have some fun and make one of the foods that are on your "NO" list diabetically friendly, just by fooling around with the label information. Love ice cream? I can make Haagen Dias (?sp) diabetic friendly, just for you. So read your labels. Read the manufacturer's portion size and the carb count for that portion. Remember the labels are required to be there and the manufacturer will use them to their best interest, not yours.


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Jibber Jabber
Jibber Jabber 2015-12-08 18:58:57 -0600 Report

I have absolutely zero problems with how servings are labeled on products…It is all right there in clear English…you need to responsible enough to read it and take serving sizes into account…Even nutritionist will tell you a serving size of rice is 1/2 cup…who eats 1/2 a cup of rice???..They have to offer some kind of measure…if you choose to eat two servings because one is not enough…do the math…and decide if it is worth it…as far as diabetic friendly is concerned…peoples definition of what is diabetic friendly varies…just because you don't think something is diabetic friendly doesn't mean someone else would not think it is…read…read…then read some more…

Kalisiin
Kalisiin 2015-12-08 17:56:20 -0600 Report

A lot of times, the serving size is NOT the size a normal person will actually limit themselves to.

sometimes, for example, since you mentioned cereals…some cereals have a 2/3 cup size serving…others have a 1/2 cup serving.

Now how often does a regular person measure out and limit to that serving size? Before I was diabetic…I would just pour myself a bowl of cereal, and then put the milk to it. I was probably getting 4-5 "servings" of cereal in that bowl.

hopeful63
hopeful63 2015-10-13 13:57:00 -0500 Report

In reading and watching videos about healthy foods and diabetes, I have found that doctors and dietitians are pointing the fingers at the FDA which stands for food and drug administration. Imagine that, one agency controls both, the food that get us sick and all the medicines that we need and more. The medicines only help with symptoms and not cure the disease. Drug companies make billions with keeping us medicated. The food industry can make food cheap by adding so many chemicals that is slowly making us sick and addicted.

I have found that labels are deceiving and why the companies are allowed to do this?
There is a war bigger than any war ever, it is the "health" war, the food we eat keeps us living longer years, but not healthy living longer years. So thanks to this website (people) for educating us. I'm learning more in a few months about health than in all my years of living. We have to be smart with the medicines we take and the foods we eat. Thank you all. : )

Vhm
Vhm 2014-06-01 19:21:35 -0500 Report

Has anyone seen the newly released movie "Fed Up"? I don't agree with some of the movie's points, but the film does a good job of explaining marketing spin, deception and lawmakers' complicity. I recommend the movie.

evaziem
evaziem 2014-06-02 11:02:17 -0500 Report

I have not seen it but I heard that it predicts that in 20 years about 95% of people (in this country or maybe globally) will be obese or overweight.

I am convinced that if we continue eating and drinking (mainly sodas) as we do, this prediction will become true…

I have to emphasize that fat on the body is not all about the looks, but health. There is no reason that we should NOT weigh at 60 as we did at 20.

Correction, our generation's 20. Today's kids are fat, we were not.

Kalisiin
Kalisiin 2015-12-08 17:59:11 -0600 Report

I used to be a Marketing Major. I switched to Medical Transcription. I came to figure out that the job of a marketer was to figure out a way to take a turd, and package it to look like a tearose so that they can sell it.

I just wasn't able to do that sort of thing. It really bugged me.

evaziem
evaziem 2014-04-27 17:55:52 -0500 Report

I had a fasting test at a hospital and afterwards a nurse came is an offered me a sandwich. I said "I do not eat bread" and she replied "It's WHOLE WHEAT!" Nurses and probably many doctors think that whole wheat is good for us.

"Whole wheat flour" is a SPIN!!! The difference between the wheat flour and whole wheat flour is the husks that are milled into the whole version. There is still the white pure simple carb-white flour that spikes one's blood sugar, period.

I understand that if FDA would ban flour and sugar, the economy would collapse so they try to spin us into this whole-wheat lie. The old food pyramid was replaced by the "plate" or a "pie" that allocates one fourth (25%) for eating GRAINS. Do your research and do not let them destroy your health and life.

All sugar, grains (corn is grain), potatoes and other starches are examples of simple carbs and should be limited or avoided all together.
All other plants: veggies and fruits are complex carbs and are much better, except fruits are "veggies with sugar" (fructose) in them. Dr Mercola (mercola.com) advises two pieces of fruit a day max and berries are a better choice.

Having said that, our bodies are made to eat what 10,000 years ago was eaten by people who we call hunters and gatherers and agriculture did not exist yet. Don't take my word for it. Look up the Paleo/Primal Diet for more info.

Sugar in all forms is our worst enemy.

Diet and its impact on our health is my passion. You are what you eat!
Period, end of story.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2014-06-02 10:39:28 -0500 Report

Well said. Remember almost everything we eat turns into sugar. what varies is the rate at which it converts. Coke, for instance is sugar. The caffeine and carbonation transport it to our blood very quickly. Veggies and fruit also change to sugar, veggies slower than fruit. Sugar is sugar. There is no good sugar/bad sugar.

evaziem
evaziem 2014-06-02 10:58:51 -0500 Report

Hi Jim,
I tell you, I am so concerned about how people contribute to their own dismay, party because they do not want to hear a voice of reason, in part because they listen to the wrong advice.

At Walgreen's, I picked up a free magazine "Diabetes & you," Summer 2014. The cover page contains a photo of meatballs in a bun (featured recipe) and the back cover, a photo of Kellogg's cereal (paid advertisement). No comments…

evaziem
evaziem 2014-04-27 17:53:50 -0500 Report

I had a fasting test at a hospital and afterward and nurse came is an offered me a sandwich. I said "I do not eat bread" and she replied "It's WHOLE WHEAT!" Nurses and probably many doctors think that whole wheat is good for us.

"Whole wheat flour" is a SPIN!!! The difference between the wheat flour and whole wheat flour is the husks that are milled into the whole version. There is still the white pure simple carb-white flour that spikes one's blood sugar, period.

I understand that if FDA would ban flour and sugar, the economy would collapse so they try to spin us into this whole-wheat lie. The old food pyramid was replaced by the "plate" or a "pie" that allocates one fourth (25%) for eating GRAINS. Do your research and do not let them destroy your health and life.

All sugar, grains (corn is grain), potatoes and other starches are examples of simple carbs and should be limited or avoided all together.
All other plants: veggies and fruits are complex carbs and are much better, except fruits are "veggies with sugar" (fructose) in them. Dr Mercola (mercola.com) advises two pieces of fruit a day max and berries are a better choice.

Having said that, our bodies are made to eat what 10,000 years ago was eaten by people who we call hunters and gatherers and agriculture did not exist yet. Don't take my word for it. Look up the Paleo/Primal Diet for more info.

Sugar in all forms is our worst enemy.

Diet and its impact on our health is my passion. You are what you eat!
Period, end of story.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-08-29 05:56:33 -0500 Report

Thank God for calculators. When I got diagnosed I was freaked out about all the math. I am so bad at math. Getting a little better at it now though. :-)

Fefe12
Fefe12 2013-08-29 03:47:40 -0500 Report

I guess I don't understand, I too read the labels and follow what they say. I may not drink the soda but I will have a piece of chocolate. Have no desire to figure out how much cereal with milk I can have but again I will have that piece of chocolate. When I have ice cream I again follow the label advice and make sure I have less than a serving. I just include whatever sweet im eating with my total carbs for my meal of 45. so far its worked for me. Did I say I will eat that piece of chocolate!

Beth0826
Beth0826 2013-06-20 18:34:43 -0500 Report

I also am trying to control the sodium. Sometimes you think something is a good choice…and then you see the sodium! Yikes!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-06-20 19:43:39 -0500 Report

it rocked my socks when I saw the sodium in onion powder dip mix. something like 525mg per serving, 4 per envelpoe.

GeneJr1224
GeneJr1224 2013-06-14 22:47:07 -0500 Report

Great post Mr. Edwards

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-06-15 19:56:39 -0500 Report

Thanks. Just tonight as I sat at a friends dinner table we were discussing this as his wife just found out she has diabetes. We had fun pulling stuff from their pantry and refrig and taking a serious look at the labels. She is not happy about being part of
the club". Jim

GeneJr1224
GeneJr1224 2013-06-15 20:14:26 -0500 Report

Jim, do you know why my neurapathy spike up when my blood sugars are down? I would think it would lessen as the blood sugars go down.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-06-16 18:12:49 -0500 Report

If I could make sense of diabetic complications, I would be a rich man. For instance, 4 oz of brandy drops my BS by about 100 points. 8 oz of beer shoots it up. I think I need to do more experiments! LOL!

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2013-06-17 09:14:55 -0500 Report

Wonder what cinnamon schnapps would do to my BG. Haven't had a drink since being diagnosed. Used to use cinnamon schnapps to help "ease" a bad cold,

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-06-20 11:52:31 -0500 Report

Now the only way you can justify this is to conduct a scientific experiment. About 2 hours after eating take you BG readings. Now sit down in a chair, relax.

Pour yourself a 4 oz serving and enjoy. Now, an hour later test you BG levels. Up or down? Keep experimenting until you finish the bottle! Be sure to record all your results. If you do not then it moves from a scientific experment to a drunkards binge!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2013-06-20 19:45:51 -0500 Report

Use the area right below your elbow. That is where I test all the time. have not used my fingers as a testing site for over 6 years. And don't worry after the 3rd or fourth test, you won't care where your BG is!

JSJB
JSJB 2012-08-12 15:09:31 -0500 Report

I eat dark chocolate and it has 19 grams of carbs per serving. A serving is 4 pcs so I eat 2 pcs for 9.5 grams of carbs. There are 8 pcs in a package which is 2.5 servings. You have to be a mathamatician to figure the nutrition facts. Oh the sugar per serving is 11 grams so i eat 5.5 grams for 2 pieces.

Uncle Lew
Uncle Lew 2011-11-28 09:23:45 -0600 Report

Do not blame the manufacturers. They are following government guide lines that were established when nutrition labeling became mandatory. The government wanted nutrition information based on common quantities, quantities the public would understand, to allow an accurate comparison between products and to prevent deceptive labeling.
In the case of your energy drink the unit used for nutritional labeling information is a cup (8 oz). The cup is not a serving but a serving unit. In this case a 16 oz energy drink would have two serving units. You state the entire can is 56 carbs (28 carbs per serving). If another manufacturers energy says it energy drink contains less carbs, say only 49 carbs but this is for a 14 oz can. At a glance you will believe the second manufacturer’s drink is better but in fact both drinks contain 3.5 carbs per ounce. When using the common serving of one cup you will see they both contain 28 carbs. They are exactly the same, you get the same carbs per ounce from each. You are getting less total carbs because you are drinking less. That is why a common serving unit is used.

Candy bars are an even better example. Compare the weights of the candy bars and you will find a great variation. In this case the common serving unit is 1 oz (28g). Now you can compare one ounce of Snickers with one ounce of Nestles’ Crunch or one ounce of a Dove bar and have an accurate comparison of carbs. You will know exactly how many carbs per ounce you are eating and then make an educated choice.

Without these common serving units manufacturers would go wild with their claims based on what ever twisted formula or illogic they wanted to use. It may sound silly but the common serving unit is actually there to help us make informed and accurate decisions.

JSJB
JSJB 2012-08-12 15:11:49 -0500 Report

You said a mouth full of carbs uncle lew :D. All you have to do is the math and make sure you read the label

Anonymous
Anonymous 2011-10-14 11:40:15 -0500 Report

Jim, you are so right. I just got a refill on Viagra. My wife decided to read the information sheet. She burst out laughing. I asked her "What is up?" She read a few lines from the info sheet.
"If you become pregnant, contact your doctor. You will need to discuss the benefits and risks of using this medicine while you are pregnant. It is not known if this medicine is found in breast milk. If you are or will be breast feeding while you use this medicine check with your doctor."

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-10-15 08:03:14 -0500 Report

ROTFL.....You know that warning is there because someone tried it. Sheesh. LOL

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-15 08:10:03 -0500 Report

actiually I have heard of Drs prescribing Viagra to women for arousal problems recently because they believe the arousal mechanism is the same (or at least close enough in men and women.)

Was that TMI?

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-15 08:34:05 -0500 Report

I was going to comment on that possibility, but knew I would speculate and well, you know, i would have travel some paths that others fear to go! Ha!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-10-15 08:13:05 -0500 Report

I guess not, but I know we have our own brand of pills for that...seems kind of weird to share those things. My husband doesn't produce his own testosterone and when he was on the gels it was a pain. I couldn't touch him where the patch was because it might make me hairy. LOL

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-10-16 08:36:00 -0500 Report

LOL! It does work. When my husband is running low, the hair on his chest and arms really goes away. He always has a lot of hair on his head though...he bought good hair "jeans". LOL

I chopped off my hair though. It is no longer....long.

greatgrama
greatgrama 2011-10-13 12:41:07 -0500 Report

Yeah I always read the labels too. I was surprised to find out that 3/4 of a cup is the serving size on my favorite cereal. You don't even get to have one cup. It looks pretty puny in the bowl too. But I do it so I can get 11 serviings out of the box. Saves money.

Mickey/CCHT
Mickey/CCHT 2011-10-13 01:44:45 -0500 Report

Boy are you dead on! Learning this out the hard way! You have to really read and be smart about things. Anymore you just cannot take things at face value!

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-10-11 20:15:28 -0500 Report

Yeah…I learned that the hard way!!! ONE can of Cambells Tomato Soup 28 grams of sugar per serving And you know anyone can eat the whole ONE can in ONE serving …and guess what???? It's 2 1/2 servings per can…Translation??…you just had 70 GRAMS OF SUGAR!!!!!! It gives me a headache to try and decifer LABELS!!! Just like the PACKAGING is getting bigger and the PRODUCT is lighter!!! Ya just can't win!! Ellen :/

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2012-08-07 10:14:39 -0500 Report

Very few people noticed that the 1/2 gallon of ice cream (not that I ever bought a 1/2 gallon) got decreased to 46 or 48 oz. If they make the packaging noticably taller people think they are getting more. Deception, an art.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 12:23:18 -0500 Report

I hear you. Now, I am sure that none of us would ever buy ice cream, but if you did do something so foolish and sinful, do you know you would be hard pressed to buy 1/2 gallon? Most are 48 oz, at least I am told. I can see the add now "Contains 1/4 fewer carbs than our previous packaging, and still the same price"
I forget what product it was, but on the box it said, "New packaging, same great price" The packaging was, of course, smaller.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-08-29 06:10:13 -0500 Report

I had 1/2 c. of black walnut ice cream last night it was 14 grams of carbs, and a cookie 20 carbs all together. Yum! I don't indulge often but on occasion I will. I peaked at 170, B/G this morning was 94. So it worked out nicely this time. :)

LauraS
LauraS 2011-10-11 13:37:22 -0500 Report

I read that "natural flavoring" is MSG. That stuff is really bad for you and should not be in any form of food. I had someone tell me oh it's just a flavoring, no, it's a chemical and some people are allergic to MSG. Headache, stomach ache, cramps. And if you drink alcohol after a large dose of MSG you'll really be in pain.

JDCA2025
JDCA2025 2011-10-11 09:48:29 -0500 Report

It's honestly a little terrifying what manufacturers can get away with not telling you. For instance, do you know what " natural flavors" mean? It means a product could literally mean anything natural, as in bugs ( red dye 42 is crushed red beetle), bone ( which is used to bleach all white sugar), and so on.

Heck, nearly 80 percent of America's food goes through some form of genetic modification before it hits shelves. Now while I don't think all genetic modification is bad, don't you think we should have the right to know what exactly happened to food we're putting in our mouths?

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-12 12:29:24 -0500 Report

Do you really want to know? Do you know why it is best to buy your own coffee beans and wash them, then dry them in your oven? Do you want to know why you should not buy or drink any coffee that is already ground? This gives me great delight, since I don't drink coffee, but the reason you buy the beans, wash them and dry them is to remove any roach droppings. It is okay in the ground coffee because it all blends together. Anyone for a cup of jo?

PharmaTree
PharmaTree 2011-10-10 14:11:53 -0500 Report

I am so happy you posted this. For years, it has bugged me that the serving size for the spray PAM is "1/3 of a second of spray." Seriously this is true, how do you spray for just a 1/3 of second. Check out this link for the visual proof. http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/labe...

Taz_t_man
Taz_t_man 2011-10-10 14:32:48 -0500 Report

But at lest it's 0 carbs.

PharmaTree
PharmaTree 2011-10-10 14:41:45 -0500 Report

0 carbs in a 1/3 second of spray. Companies do not have to add the amount of calories if it can be reduced to less than one, which is why they have reduced the serving size to 1/3 of a second of spray.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 14:47:25 -0500 Report

Didn't know that. Heck, so a 16" pizza can have 0 carbs per serving. Serving size 128 per 16" pizza. ZERO carbs per serving!

PharmaTree
PharmaTree 2011-10-10 14:55:06 -0500 Report

Yep! That's correct! If you scroll down on the link I posted, you will find a chart with all of the requirements for a serving size to be for it to state a claim. For example, one serving (no matter the size of serving) can state 0 grams of fat if the serving contains less than .5 grams! That adds up in the long run. Check out the link, it is great…on page two it discusses the claim "sugar free" when that is so far from the truth

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 15:00:57 -0500 Report

That is so funny. How did you make all of that info up? I know, it is for real, but I just shake my head in disbelief.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 14:37:36 -0500 Report

Yeah, but so are stink bugs! At camp I have begun to collect them in a used laundry detergent bottle. With the spout, you don't need to touch them (even bleach doesn't get rid of the smell) and because you can be quick, they do not release as much stink. When I get 10,000 of them or so, I will toss the container into a bonfire. they are a far worse plaque than Japanese Beetles ever were. These, by the way, came from China and they have no natural predators. Birds won't eat them and spider won't consume them once they are in the web..

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 14:26:01 -0500 Report

Never did I even suspect that PAM would have a serving size! That is great! I will have to start looking at every label and find more like that. Thanks, you put a smile on my face. Jim

Lauriene
Lauriene 2011-10-10 13:53:52 -0500 Report

Since I have started eating with a gluten & dairy free view, I rarely purchase prepared foods & I am finding that I do not have to worry about portion size as I am getting my carbs from low glycemic fruits & veggies. I do weigh my protein (turkey, fish. chicken) & an occasional soy product as well as greek yogurt. My friends are amazed at the volume of food I eat & still loosing wt. & my numbers are great.

silvie mae
silvie mae 2013-08-29 06:21:36 -0500 Report

This is how I eat. Keeping it simple. I buy Whole foods, almost no processed foods, fresh fruits, veggies, poultry, herbs, and nuts.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-10-10 13:58:53 -0500 Report

One of my worst fears is having to do a gluten & dairy free diet. My favorite foods are in those groups. Like bread, milk, cheese. I know i can afford to cut back on the gluten. Maybe I will start with my morning cereal, my worse time for gluten violations.

DragonDreams
DragonDreams 2011-10-11 00:36:03 -0500 Report

I am lactose intolerant and currently going gluten free. There are substitutes, many of witch taste the same, for all of your favorites.

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