Carbs and the brain

By Marytea Latest Reply 2011-10-10 09:40:14 -0500
Started 2011-10-04 09:37:57 -0500

I recently went to a class of diabetes and was told that I needed 220 carb a day for my brain to be healthy. If I went lower than 180 carbs consistently, I was starving my brain and inviting dementia. Really?

22 replies

MrsCDogg 2011-10-10 06:58:06 -0500 Report

And if you abide by that 220 carbs per day and your A1c starts to rise then the good doc will no doubt chide you for overdoing it!

Marytea 2011-10-10 09:40:14 -0500 Report

Thanks for making me smile. I am not following that 220 carb advice at all. Firstly it is just way too much and secondly I want to lose weight not gain it.

Bogy 2011-10-07 08:45:19 -0500 Report

220 carbs/day? That is a huge # of carbs.I aim for approx 30/meal.I limit grains and sugar.I try to get my carbs from veggies, fruits and protein. Yes protein. My endro told my that 70% of protein is metabolized as carbs.I couldn't believe it. Have a good day and weekend. Pete

berrykins0 2011-10-06 09:48:35 -0500 Report

i was told i needed 225 for carb amount plus my blood sugars are steady i can handle this much. 45grams 3 times a day meal times 30 grams 3times a day snack times by the way i was told the brain needs carbs to function to. i wasn't eating enough carbs while trying to lose weight and got told about this

TsalagiLenape 2011-10-06 08:01:36 -0500 Report

Well I have to say I agree with you. That certain doctors and etc think we are questioning their intelligence and etc. Yet the good doctor will understand that we are trying to learn cope and deal with what we have. For if I dont understand then why should I do it? I am still confused when it comes to simple carbs and complexed ones. Yet doing my best to learn and see what I can do to change things around for myself. I had one doctor get upset since I was asking questions she left the room in a huff. Oh well. If she had explained better then I wouldnt keep on asking questions. For If I dont get it well I aint doing it! Needless to say I am not going back to see her again. A diabetes doctor or certified diabetic educator will help. They wont mind the questions so much and if you tell them you want to understand thus the questions, it will make them realize you are being pro active on your health. Hope this helps as it was meant tool. Hugs

Tina1860 2011-10-05 12:35:26 -0500 Report

Hello Marytea. Just since I have joined this site I have discovered that is seems everybody is different in what their body needs and can tolerate. I did go to a diabetic nutritionist and found her to be very helpful for me. I try to stay between 120 and 160 carbs per day spread out through the day. I stay away from simple carbs as much as possible and look for products that are complex carbs.

Bogy 2011-10-07 08:38:28 -0500 Report

Tina, that is correct, we are diferent. We need to learn what is best for each of us as individuals. Keep learning.Pete

locarbarbie 2011-10-05 08:55:26 -0500 Report

I went to 2 different classes that were each 3 evenings long given by a nurse sanctioned by the ADA. I also met with an ADA nutritionist for several hours. I was so NOT impressed with the guidelines given. I was told to eat from 180 to 200 carbs broken into 3 meals and 2 snacks. They also kept stressing how important carbs are and that you NEED them. They also stressed low fat but never mentioned how important good fats are. The class was also told that if you had a bs of 180 or less 2 hours after eating you were doing ok. WHAT?? The highest MY bs has been (even 2 hours after eating) was 155. I go more by staying below a 40 point increase 2 hours after eating. Neither instructor could answer most of the questions I had regarding, agave sweetener, benefits of cinnamon, supplementing with alpha lipoic acid (sp?), chia seeds, and many more. They had never heard of these, other than the cinnamon but they were on the fence over that.
I have been trying to come up with the plan that works best for me, and let me tell you, it is not 200 carbs per day. I hover more around 40per day, with no ill effects!! My bs readings usually range from 80 to 110. I am working on lowering my a1c, last was 6.2. I am looking into low glycemic load diets. I do believe that the closer to nature the better. I have been more conscious of healthful, organic fresh ingredients and trying to alleviate all artificail sweeteners. I have been using stevia and coconut sugar (sparingly but delicious!!)
I understand that we are all different and what works well for one person with diabetes may not be ok for someone else. But what really bugged me, was the condesending attitude. I got the feeling that I was not to question, that I was to just toe the line.
My biggest confession (hope I don't get kicked off dc for being a rabble rouser, LOL) is that I have not taken metformin for about 6 months, never noticied any difference in my a1c or bs either way. If I can control with diet and exercise, why are they so anxious to medicate? I am hesitant to tell my doctor though until I have managed to bring my a1c to about 5.5

Type1Lou 2011-10-05 13:40:36 -0500 Report

I so totally agree with you! It seems that the so-called "experts" get very defensive when you question their pronouncements…even when you try to do it nicely and in a non-confrontational manner. Congratulations on your good results and on your determination to manage your diabetes.

Marytea 2011-10-05 09:00:53 -0500 Report

i wrote you a reply on my original post. Thank you so much for your input. You gave me lots to think about.

Marytea 2011-10-05 08:58:35 -0500 Report

Thank you for your input. Your numbers are great and you should be proud. You gave me lots to thing about. My instructor told me agave is a carb and just to count it. I am good with splenda. I do take metformin once a day. It doesn't seem to do much or bother me. Best wishes to you

Jan8 2011-10-05 06:30:48 -0500 Report

Never heard that one. try a diabetes nutritionist. I think you'll get a different answer.

grandmaducky 2011-10-04 14:41:39 -0500 Report

I think thats how they sell more diabetic drugs because to more carbs you eat the more drugs you have to take to cover the carbs

Beata2 2011-10-04 11:44:09 -0500 Report

Where do these people go to school?! The brain needs protein and good fats. It's over 60% saturated fat. The body will convert fat into sugars when needed. What a great way to use the fat I already have.
I aim for 20-40 carbs a day and have for years.

Bogy 2011-10-07 16:12:58 -0500 Report

This sounds good. Would you send me a few examples of what you eat. Please include an example for breakfest, lunch and dinner. Thank you, Pete

Beata2 2011-10-07 17:20:22 -0500 Report

When in a hurry I mix half a cup of Greek Gods plain yogurt w/ half a cup of cottage cheese. Add vanilla or almond extract, cinnamon and 3 splenda w/fiber. This adds up to 14 carbs and 3 grams of fiber. Good for breakfast, lunch or even an evening snack.
3 or 4 eggs scrambled with spinach and feta cheese.
Keep a roasted chicken handy. Add to a spinach salad, or have with grilled Vegies.
Put a chuck roast in the crock pot, add a beer and bullion. Turn on low and cook all day. Have it with tour fav Vegies.
I have found that if I have plenty of protien then I don't need to snack, but if I do then I have peanuts or sunflower seeds. A shot glass is a portion= about 3 carbs.
Hope this helps. Nothing fancy but my husband and I like them.

granniesophie 2011-10-04 11:26:30 -0500 Report

I don't think I actually ate 220 carbs a day BEFORE I got diagnosed most of the time!!
My brain is demented naturally, ask anyone who knows me :-P

Type1Lou 2011-10-04 09:51:09 -0500 Report

Then, I should be totally GAGA by now! I limit my carbs to around 120 per day and have been on a low-carb diet for more than 5 years. I've been a PWD for 35+ years and am 62 years old. I'm still able to complete the 3 crossword puzzles and word jumble in the daily newspaper every day. I also complete the Sunday NY Times crossword…I don't think a low-carb regimen has affected my brain power! It amazes me how much misinformation is out there! Doesn't it make you angry and sad?

Dixiemom 2011-10-05 18:19:02 -0500 Report

220 carbs is a h*** of a lot of carbs. I was trying the Belly Fat Cure and that is very limited. Since we eat very little meat I get my protein from beans and nuts. Have you seen how many carbs in a serving of beans? I try to limit bread and starchy foods. I like Jay's idea of checking and keeping a notebook on it. I will be doing this to see just where i am on the food chain.

suziesgirl 2011-10-05 19:09:12 -0500 Report

Way to go Barb. You definately are a girl after my own heart. Hey guess what? YOU GET IT. The ADA, what a joke. They can't help themselves, let alone other people. If you get kicked off this website, then they can kick me off too. You make more sense than many doctors I have met. Metformin the miracle drug. BULL, BULL and more BULL. Its the Big Bandaid for people who are misinformed or just need a crutch. Its like a free ticket to eat junk. Hey ADA, what infomred medical proffesional would ever tell someone with diabetes to cook with white flour. They are insane or maybe we are for not putting them out of bussiness. You'll come up with the perfect plan girl. Sounds like you are well on your way. I told you I got my A1C to 5.6 after 1 1/2 years. It was at 10.4. NO drugs, none. People need to pay close attention to good information. I don't even visit the ADA website, too many ads for meds. Oh what a surprise that is.
Talk to you later girl.

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