Hydrocodone

Bonnie K.
By Bonnie K. Latest Reply 2015-06-13 10:14:11 -0500
Started 2011-09-28 23:06:54 -0500

I just thought I would bring up a little information I got from my pharmacist today to all of you out there in as much pain as I am, I am not a doctor and don't claim to be but I do not like to take drugs, especially narcotics. They have such a detrimental effect long term on your body, and lets face it we have enough to handle already. I wanted to know if I have to be on some pain killers the rest of my life what is a sfer way to do it. The pharmacist reccomended Tylenol arthritis pills, they have very little side effects compared to the hydrocodone, I am talking in the long term. They talk all about the narcotic and how addictive it is, well I will not get addictive to any drug , I am that determined but lets face it pain is the one thing that can humble us and bring us to our knees, so I would rather have the safer way to handle it. I haven't started it yet, I just got the news today so wish me luck on this new adventure in my life. Thanks for listening. Bonnie


127 replies

Jan8
Jan8 2015-06-13 10:14:11 -0500 Report

For pain of peripheral Neuropathy I was switched from narcotics to Lyrica,cymbalta and it took al small amt. of time for them to work but I am so happy now. I never experience any neuopathy pain. Some people cannot take lyrica or Cymbalta. Sure works for me !! I would also be on narcs if I had lots of pain but my brain really can't tke them. The narcs make me very depressed.

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-04 23:31:53 -0500 Report

Don't knock it till you try it. Narcotics can be dangerous in the wrong hands,but when you suffer from severe chronic pain you really need the stronger drugs in order to get any relief at all. I have been taking narcotic pain meds for many years with no side affects oir health problems. I take large doses also. Any form of tylenol taken long term is dangerous and will destroy your liver and kidneys. Your pharmacist is mistaken for suggesting to take tylenol or ibuprophen long term. If you have chronic pain you need to see a pain management doctor like I do and they can offer the proper advise on treating your pain properly. I guarantee they will not give you any tylenol. My doctor at Pain Consultates is one of the best in the country and they are very strict on their rules. They don't supply drug addicts only true chronic pain patients who have proof of their pain(such as records). I hope I have been of some help to you concerning pain meds.

Bonnie K.
Bonnie K. 2011-10-05 00:45:54 -0500 Report

I appreciate your advice, it is always welcome from everyone. I am not keen on narcotics because it killed my stepmother. She was partly at fault she was addicted to all medications and took meds from many different doctors, this in itself was dangerous. We cleaned out all her pills when the doctor took her off some of them but she took a drug called plasadill not sure if it's the correct spelling but she called in to say she was in somuch pain and one of her other doctors told her to double her pills. Of course he didn't know she had many pills so she doubled them all. She was on upwards of 32 different prescriptions and taking 2 of some of them so when she doubled all of them she went into a coma and never came out of it. Her organs started shutting down, the only thing she did say before she died was when is he coming for me. and then as she took her dying breath a faint Heelp came out of her mouth, I was holding her hand and she clenched on so tight I had her handprint on my hand when they finally got us apart. This is why I hate pills. When we cleaned out her house she had tons of pills stashed everywhere. Bonnie

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-05 18:43:28 -0500 Report

Bonnie K., I appreciate you for sharing with me about your stepmother. I do understand your reasons for not wanting to be on narcotic drugs. I just wanted you to understand my point of view concerning pain and meds. Because of the way your stepmother abused drugs and died is one of the reasons I see a Pain Specialist who is certified and licensed to be a pain medicine doctor. Also that is one reason the DEA got involved in a big way so they could monitor doctors and their patients. By the way Placidill (not sure of spelling) is not a pain drug, but rather a strong sedative type drug. I am on a lot of different meds including some narcotic drugs for severe chronic pain, but I have to see my pain doctor monthly and submit urine screening and fill out a lot of paper work and be scrutinized in order to obtain my meds. I am under a contract also and if I mess up in any way they will expell me from the program. I think it is worth it for my safety and it keeps you honest. I agree with you though about some drugs being abused being dangerous. Even Tylenol is dangerous if taken regularly or if you take too much. I am very sorry for the way you lost your stepmother . Feel free to reply to this or any thing you like.

nrule02
nrule02 2011-10-04 20:55:22 -0500 Report

Finding the right pain medicine or even the right combination can be tricky. Good luck to you!

Ralph
Ralph 2011-10-04 19:43:49 -0500 Report

I have a friend who is a Dr. and he once told me not to take tylenol for too long a time because it was rough on your liver. I have also read this same thing somewhere. I have pain every day and I also pefer not to take meds if at all possible. I do take tramidal for my pain and sometimes I take tylenol. I react badly to nasaids so no asprin or such. I use other methods for my pain, I exercise, meditate, and use ice or heat. All of my Dr. I have seen say it is important to keep a positive outlook. It works. Good luck.

Bonnie K.
Bonnie K. 2011-10-05 00:27:24 -0500 Report

I am one for the meditation I learned it very well in fact I can self hypmatize ( spelling) I had to learn it so I did and it works. But meditation is great but by the time I am done I fall asleep, I guess that can be a good thing. I take hot showers to get me thru some of the pain and t works unless like yesturday your feet kill you to bad to stand. Hi Ralph I am Bonnie and I appreciate the info from your Dr. I am thinking of doing water exercises in the warm waters but I hate to get wet and then have to go out in the cold snow so I am still thinking about it. Good Night nice talking to you.

margokittycat
margokittycat 2011-10-04 16:02:07 -0500 Report

Bonnie I hate to say it but even over the counter drugs such as Tylenol Arthritis have bigger side effects than what your pharmacist claims it does. i HAD AN INJURY ACCIDENT 4 YEARS AGO CAUSING ME TO HAVE SURGERY ON MY SHOULDER THAT GAVE ME SCREWS IN MY BICEPT AND SCREWS UNDER MY SHOULDER BONE. I WAS TOLD TO TAKE TYLENOL ARTHRITIS FOR THE PAIN THAT I HAVE EVERY DAY, AND SO I DID THEN I STARTED HAVING KIDNEY INFECTIONS AND AS SOON AS I STOPPED TAKING THE TYLENOL ARTHRITIS THE KIDNEY INFECTIONS STOPED. NI WISH YOU LUCK

Bonnie K.
Bonnie K. 2011-10-04 19:43:37 -0500 Report

dThanks for telling me margokittycat, I just bought two large boxes, I haven't opened them so I can take them back. This is what I need feedback on medicine thanks. Bonnie

margokittycat
margokittycat 2011-10-04 21:52:03 -0500 Report

BONNIE YOU ARE WELCOME. I DO TAKE THE HYDROCODONE, I TAKE IT FOR MY ARM AND FOR PREVENTION OF MIGRAINE HEADACHES, I DO NOT USE IT EVERYDAY THOUG. I HAVE CONSTANT PAIN IN MY ARM, BUT SUFFER THROUGH IT BECUSE LIKE YOU I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE PILLS ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE SO DEPENDANT ON A MED PEOPLE THINK I AM ADDICTED. I USE THE HYDROCODONE RARELY. MORE FOR MIGRAINE THAN ANYTHING. ULTRAM IS A GOOD MEDICATION FOR PAIN THOUGH AND IT IS NOT AS ADDICTIVE NOR IS IT A HIGHLY CONTROLLED MEDICATION.

ochibeachgirl
ochibeachgirl 2011-10-04 16:09:23 -0500 Report

My doc put me on Cymbalta for the pain in my feet - has helped (and I am not so grumpy anymore) but the drug took about 2 weeks to kick in!

TrueBeliever
TrueBeliever 2011-10-03 21:21:00 -0500 Report

None of us wants to take narcotics. Not the ones with pain anyway. I hate to have to tell you this but if you take any narcotic pain reliever for any length of time you will develope a physical addiction even if you don't develope a psychological one. Depending on the location and amount of your pain there may be other options. There are over-the-counter patches which may help, you can ask your doctor about a perscription patch called Lidoderm which can help if the location of pain isn't too far from the surface. If your concern is about the meds going through your gastrointestinal system maybe you should discuss the possibility of using Fentanyl patches. These are narcotic but the drug goes through your skin instead of through your stomach. In the end it's all about what you can live with.

CWMecca
CWMecca 2011-10-04 17:03:37 -0500 Report

How can you possibly have NOT heard that Fentanyl patches have caused deaths? There are lawsuits against the company right now. I'd look for an alternative if I were you Bonnie K.

robinlove
robinlove 2011-10-05 07:32:59 -0500 Report

I haven't heard of it either CW. Any medication can be implicated in deaths. I was on Fentanyl patches several years ago. I have a spinal cord injury. I stopped it because even on one of the lower doses I literally fell asleep standing up. I was on morphine(large doses) for 8 years, oxycodone, opana, and many more. Not all at the same time. For now because of being inbetween insurances I am on hydrocodone 7.5's. I can't stay on them long because one they help very little now, and they raise my liver test numbers ): I know many hate to try narcotics but if your pain is chronic and intractable eventually one's life gets very small and depression (severe often happens) I have been a chronic pain patient for 13-14 years. I had suicidal thoughts to the point I wasn't sure if anything was worth it. If you think your (anyone) is so strong they can live with such severe pain the more power to you. I had two spine surgeries , one was done very wrong. It can't be fixed. I choose quality of life over none. Now I have to see my pain management doctor and we have to figure out what else there is to try. It isn't always strength or mind over matter as many think. I was shuffled from all kinds of doctors with none believing the pain was that bad, nor did they have a diagnosis. I was blessed to have directed to this doctor. He is one that only see's patients that are in severe untreated pain. So many people judge from an article or two about a medications ( those attorney commercials asking if you took a certain med and supposedly got sick, THEN they go on and say you could be awarded money. sigh… I don't think I want to go back on morphine again however. It makes me forgetful, I couldn't drive, and even on 300mg a day the pain was very strong. sorry for such a long post all.

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-04 23:50:58 -0500 Report

I use Fentanyl patches for chronic pain and they are very safe if used properly. The lawsuit you are referring to is for an older style of patch in which they do not make anymore. They were dangerous, but the new patches are very safe and are only prescribed to chronic opain sufferers who already take narcotic pain meds. If you go to a good pain center, such as Pain Consultants or one assocoiated with hospital you will be properly screened as a true pain patient or a drug addict. People who take narcotics for pain are not addicted like a drug addict. There is a big difference which the pain doctor will explain to you concerning addiction. I have been on narcotic pain meds for many years and I am actually living. At one time I suffered so badly with severe chronic pain I just wanted to die. I have a family and have been happily married for over 30 years thanks to pain meds and a loving wife. I had tried every treatment under the sun for pain relief including 17 operations and several pain treating devises in which all failed to give relief. I thank God daily for my meds even though I still am in some pain.

shutz
shutz 2012-12-23 18:45:52 -0600 Report

the doctors all think i am a drug addict and my primary care doctor refuses to prescribe pAINKILLERS

Bonnie K.
Bonnie K. 2011-10-04 19:45:34 -0500 Report

Thanks for the warning as we all try things by word of mouth and we don't really know unless we hear someone else had issues again Thanks Bonnie

Bonnie K.
Bonnie K. 2011-10-03 21:47:03 -0500 Report

I wish I could get rid of the pain entirely, don't we all but I have come to realize this is not going to happen. I thought it was from all thesurgeries in the last 2 years but it isn't I guess, I think it made the neuropathy worse if fact I never knew I had neuropathy until after the surgeries. Maybe I didn't ?? I am experienceing stomach pain now the last few days like a burning pain, not heart burn or anything its right around the naval area. I do have a rupture there and that used to bother me a bit but not like this. Maybe it will go away but with the lower belly in pain and now the mid belly I think it is time to have a talk with my family doctor, if fact my endrochronoligist said I should too. She is on vacation for 3 weeks do you think it will wait.? Just throwing that question out there. Bonnie

DPGirl
DPGirl 2015-06-12 11:18:15 -0500 Report

It might be scar tissue from your surgery or nerve pain either from the surgery or neuropathy. Never want to ignore "belly" pain! Good luck and don't let the Dr. just dismiss it either!

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-04 23:55:20 -0500 Report

Do you think you could possibly have a gallbladder disorder such as stones? If the pain gets too severe you might seek another doctor or maybe the emergency room to be safe. You just never can tell sometimes. Good luck though.

vijo
vijo 2011-10-04 15:52:22 -0500 Report

i am new here, but any new pain should be evaluated. it could just be muscle, adhesions, or something more serious, so you should have it checked out. also did you know that you can get neuropathy of the stomach? have it checked out! let us know how your doing. also i use the Lidoderm patches. they work great. only draw back is they are costly. but oh 8-10 hours of pure relief it is worth it!!!

lisaloo2429
lisaloo2429 2011-10-03 16:25:57 -0500 Report

All this talk about pain is really freaking me out. Two months ago I weaned myself off of Norcos (hydrocodone) and Somas (muscle relaxers). I had been on those two meds for the last 3 yrs because of bulging disc in my back and neck and having TMJ just added to the pain. The withdrawals were unbearable but I prayed everyday and had my husband and my family and friends there when I needed to talk. It was very very hard to stop taking the meds. Is there anything that can prevent Diabetic Neuropathy? I'm going to google that because I don't know what that is. I was just recently diagnosed w/Type 2 diabetese.

TrueBeliever
TrueBeliever 2011-10-03 21:37:42 -0500 Report

Were you able to find other relief from your pain? As far as diabetic neuropathy goes just do your best to take care of your diabetes. The better you do the less risk you'll have of bad effects. Try not to worry about neuropathy, there are so many different risks from diabetes that are worse like blindness and amputation. Try to focus on taking care of your body and you'll do fine.

lisaloo2429
lisaloo2429 2011-10-04 12:00:31 -0500 Report

I buy a gel called BioFreeze that my chirocpractor had samples of and it works to some extent but pain is pretty much in my life daily.

DPGirl
DPGirl 2015-06-12 11:24:41 -0500 Report

Do you take something for the Neuropathy like Gabapentin (generic for Lyrica)? Cymbalta is supposed to help too, there are others. Th

vijo
vijo 2011-10-04 15:56:07 -0500 Report

i use biofreeze also, it does work well. it helps with muscle and nerve pain, drawback, it doesn't last long, have to reapply fairly frequently.

TrueBeliever
TrueBeliever 2011-10-04 12:28:53 -0500 Report

There are meds for neuropathy that work well if you do get it. Neurontin works for some, I take Lyrica with limited success, but my neuropathy isn't terrible. Other parts of me hurt so much worse from plain old arthritis. Don't let it worry you. Concentrate on finding the diet that works best for you to keep your BG level good. If you still get neuropathy talk to your doctor about which drug to try first. You'll do OK as long as you don't eat like you don't know you have diabetes.

lisaloo2429
lisaloo2429 2011-10-05 12:46:53 -0500 Report

So in the future I will have to take something for pain? I was just diagnosed in Sept of this year. I had a chemical dependency to pain pills and muscle relaxers. That's just really scary for me.

Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2011-10-04 13:57:34 -0500 Report

My doctor gave me Neurontin for pain but I can only take it at bedtime. I was wondering why I can only take it at bedtime. It's 300mg. Is there a milder mg. for it? I don't know much about this drug.

TrueBeliever
TrueBeliever 2011-10-04 19:56:24 -0500 Report

Sorry, I don't remember, it's been several years since I've taken neurontin. It may just be because it can cause drowsiness.

vijo
vijo 2011-10-04 16:00:27 -0500 Report

i took Neurontin, but it caused me to be sleepy and feelling like i was in a fog all of the time. it was hard to think and my short term memory got worse the longer i was on it. i've heard of other people who have similar problems with it, esp.the memory problems. i didn't take it for very many months. i stopped it, with my dr. ok that is.

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 21:01:47 -0500 Report

If you ever saw anyone die from using Tylenol you would forget it ever existed, it
will kill your liver just hours before it kills you !!!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-03 17:22:38 -0500 Report

Regarding diabetic neuropathy (DN), the only way to prevent it is to keep your BG levels in the normal range.

I know of no drug which prevents you from getting it and there are some which iare supposed to stop or modify the pain from DN. They work for some and not for others (they didn't work for me).

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 18:57:26 -0500 Report

PS: Your M.D.s will tell you that Diabetes can't be cured, it's because they don't know how !!!
There is no incurable deceases !!! At least at age 83 I have not found one !!!

TrueBeliever
TrueBeliever 2011-10-03 20:47:22 -0500 Report

A year and 1/2 ago my father died of ALS. This disease was identified in the 1700's but they still not only have no cure but they are also unclear of the cause. By the way the mortality rate is 100%. If it's curable maybe you could help find the cure for them. I don't know if they'll ever call anyone's diabetes cured. We can live with it and that's good enough for me.

vijo
vijo 2011-10-04 16:06:24 -0500 Report

i think our only hope for diabetes cure is pancreas transplant, it works , but dangerous, or stem cell research, i stongly vote for stem cell research, but with guideline!
.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-05 00:06:14 -0500 Report

Maybe for T 1s it is a possible cure, but the downside to any transplant is antirejection meds. And if the antibodies which attacked the pancreas are still active it could wipe out the new pancreas and you're right back at ground zero.

For T 2s it would be less of a cure possibility as there are other processes going on in the body of a person with diabetes like insulin resistance.

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 20:17:28 -0500 Report

The cure for Diabetes is the same as for all "Deceases", namely, proper
Nutrition… And it is not necessarily the same for everyone…That is why
I say find a "GOOD" Naturapathic Doctor…Try Dr Bruce West.com,he may
have the answer for you !!!Or Dr Jonathan Wright.com… When you seek,
you shall find !!!

richak28
richak28 2011-10-04 16:24:23 -0500 Report

Vijo, if you're going to write to me ,say what you mean !!!
The only snake cures I've seen comes with your M.D. prescription !!!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-05 00:09:31 -0500 Report

I think he did say what he meant. I think he was just making fun of your continual misspelling of diseases as "deceases".

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 21:21:17 -0500 Report

Your M.D. won't tell you because he doesn't know and I don't know, it is different for each person… Check my previous post so you'll know how
to find out !!!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-10-04 23:54:05 -0500 Report

You claimed you knew what it was. Now you are telling me that you DON'T know. Which is it?

I will check out cure zone.

OH and BTW Truebeliever asked you about A.L.S. and so far not a word from you to her about that.

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 18:52:24 -0500 Report

If you will get away from Your M.D.s and their TOXIC DRUGs you will do very well…
If you can find a M.D. who practices Natural Medicine you have the world by the tail…
If you can find a "Good"N.D. " Naturapathic Doctor" you will do okay…
Get on line and start looking, they are there !!!

Jan8
Jan8 2011-10-05 06:20:31 -0500 Report

some people take very high doses of neurontin. 300mgs is a low dose. I believe 100mg capsules the lowest dose. neurontin makes some people sleepy. A very long time ago i was on 600mgs 4xday then another 600 at bedtime. Way too high for me. If it works for you,give your doc a call and ask for a daytime dose.

kiltimagh
kiltimagh 2011-10-02 11:55:42 -0500 Report

Has anyone here tried DMSO? I have a friend that is suffering with chronic pain and I just heard about it. It is not a cure but is natural and provides relief almost instantaneously (claims with positive reviews) It can be purchased at a Feed Store as it is used for horses! They caution to get the 99.9% pure only and only 2 drops of liquid are needed for almost instantaneous relief. Of course, it has not been FDHA tested. I read that some people with sensitive skin are bothered by it.

Dixiemom
Dixiemom 2011-10-05 17:07:10 -0500 Report

Be careful, it has sulfa in it. I tried it and I'm allergic to sulfa and quit before I haed a reaction.

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-05 00:07:08 -0500 Report

DMSO is not safe to use as a treatment for anything on a human being. That is why it is illegal to give to people for medical use. It will burn your skin off or kill you that is also why the FDHA doesn't approve it for human use.

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-05 18:59:11 -0500 Report

I would like to add to what I said earlier. DMSO may not have the same effect on some people as it does others. I heard about the stuff back in the eighties. The upholstery company I worked for at the time used to sell DMSO, not as a medicine, but that for which it was intended to be used for. It actually is a solvent and type of cleaning agent. It was taken off the shelf while I was still working there and banned for human use by the FDHA and declared to be dangerous to use as a treatment for arthritis. I'm sorry you don't approve of what I said, but never the less it is the honest truth.

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 21:28:42 -0500 Report

I forgot to tell you, you can find sources ON LINE for DMOS but some or
most would probably be worthless… I would check at Dr Clark .com,
Dr Jonathan Wright.com or Dr Whitaker.com… those would be reliable !!!

poodledo
poodledo 2011-10-05 00:10:02 -0500 Report

If I were you I would be very careful giving advise for something dangerous and illegal to prescribe to people that will harm them. You might be looking at jail time. Beware!

richak28
richak28 2011-10-05 08:22:35 -0500 Report

I do not advise anyone to take anything and your statement that DMSO will burn your skin off and kill you is ludicrous !!! I said that it will irritate some
people's skin.. I use it with no ill effects at all !!!
And this is GOODBY to ALL of you who are only here to argue with each
other!!!

sailorsmom
sailorsmom 2011-10-03 20:54:12 -0500 Report

Yes the only problem with it is it smells really bad. It does work. It comes in a small plastic container I think there is only like 4oz or so it a container. It is like a cream you dont need that much of it. Just remember it does smell yucky.

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 22:04:52 -0500 Report

I found a creme style DMSO on the internet but I can not remember
who had it at this moment. I was very good !!!

richak28
richak28 2011-10-03 20:45:39 -0500 Report

I use DMSO and it is very good but as you say it will irritate some people'
skin…North Star Nutritional has a product they say is like Brylcreme a
little dab will do " Soothanol X2" but I did not find it very useful even
though it has DMSO in it, may work for some people…Don't forget that
cayenne pepper and/or aloe vero is very good !!! I use Dr Clark's "Full
Gamma Generator and it is the best for zapping those nasty bugs that
are chewing on your nerve sheaths and cartilage… got my wife's two
thumbs working again !!!