Not everything mentioned on here is "fact"...

By alanab Latest Reply 2011-10-13 22:36:13 -0500
Started 2011-09-26 17:16:34 -0500

The more I read on here, the more disillusioned I become. Someone will post or share an article like it's the gospel, leading dozens of confused people to stop or start doing something different. People, please…use some common sense. Just because someone posts something here doesn't mean it's a fact. There's good information; there's bad information. When in doubt, talk with your medical professionals. Research. There are a lot of opposing viewpoints out there, but don't cling to the ones that don't make sense. IF it sounds like someone's talking out of their ***, chances are, they are.

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Brother Raoul
Brother Raoul 2011-10-13 22:36:13 -0500 Report

Sounds good to me. Its like everything else. read, research, go to the professionals and others who live and breath the particular diagnosis. Also don't forget they are time tested remedies that also are beneficial. Ginger root both topical and chewed and ingested have remarkable qualities in the relief of the pain and swelling of neuropathy. Ingested it is known the soothing and calming effects on the emotions and and stressers. Also lavender.
Peace and blessings,
Brother Raoul

Old-n-Grey-n-Wiser 2011-10-13 14:56:16 -0500 Report

I belive that as time goes by you will come know who you can trust and where a grain of salt will be needed ;} Old-n-Grey

Auburn Bill
Auburn Bill 2011-10-11 18:55:10 -0500 Report

Glad to know someone else thinks the way I do, especially on product reviews. I love to challengw the cost of some stuff, the way it is presented to us as if God's gift to the world! You learn what to accept, I am old enogh to know my limits on buying exoensive products whne there is no need to! Grandpa Bill

ali315 2011-09-30 01:41:34 -0500 Report

I think this website is great and I dont believe any one is trying to give dr. advice they just are just letting us know what works for them or didnt work for them wich is a good thing and some advice I hadnt even heard of and now that I have I can ask my dr. on their point of view and if its something I should try or not try.but having people give their opinions on their personal life is a good thing it never hutrs to hear some thing new that you might be able to do.Im sorry your not happy with this site but maybe thier is another site that might be more helpfull to what your looking for,so good luck.May God Bless you

Mickie G
Mickie G 2011-10-01 06:51:20 -0500 Report

Very well said. As with any opinion you should always do some research and take what you can and disregard what you can not. On this site I have found that the best intentions are usually meant so Good luck to you and may god bless you.

alanab 2011-09-30 06:17:07 -0500 Report

Well, thanks for the "God bless and shoo along now", but I never said I wasn't interested in hearing different points of view. I just said that some of it should be taken with a grain of salt.

MrsCDogg 2011-09-29 04:38:45 -0500 Report

Not everything posted on the internet is "fact". A lot of the stuff posted here is the oppinon of the person posting it.

jayabee52 2011-09-30 00:07:19 -0500 Report

A lot of us post on DC what is working for us. I think that I should let folks know that what works for me may not work for ALL persons with diabetes.

And some of what is posted is of course opinion of the person posting it.

gettingright 2011-09-28 19:57:35 -0500 Report

I have tried many therapies to keep my diabetes in check. I have been doing Atkins
forever and have kept my diabetes in check for 10years without meds. I do have type 2. I have come to the point of not trusting MD's. (Medical Dieties). There are many many ways to keep ourselves healthy without having to see a physician for anything but blood tests and such. Absolutely no radiation for anything since it isnt necessary. If you want to learn how to keep yourself healthy do some research
of your own. Try reading The Truth about Hydrogen Peroxide, or Your Doctor is a Liar or The One Minute Cure, and the list goes on and on. No snake oil salesmen here. Most safe treatments that actually work are squashed by the drug pushers we know as Physicians, and Doctors, and the pharmaceutical companies that they work for, along with the food and drug administration. Splenda? might as well eat battery acid. Try natural Stevia instead. Just read, and learn for yourselves the truth. Stop being lemmings that keep listening to the drs that are strictly treating your symptoms and not even interested in getting to root problems of your ills and that includes diabetes. Stop taking blood thinners and cholesterol lowering medications that are killing you. Please just read the books that I mentioned here and then take it from there if you are truly interested in beginning to save your money and feeling better than you have felt in years. Then celebrate by taking a wonderful Food Grade Hydrogen peroxide soak or breathing treatment that you can admiinister to yourself and go out and get a nice steak dinner. Yeah, I'm new here but I had to say something. Most of you will scoff and say I'm crazy, but do read the books I have mentioned and then read the ones they lead you to from there. You will wind up as angry at the medical establishment as I was. Not anymore. I realize that I can only lead you to the truth, I can't make you read it or use the miraculous cures that will come to you if you take control of your own health. Stop handing it over to someone that could truly care less whether you live or die.

alanab 2011-09-29 12:14:58 -0500 Report

Are you saying someone suggested radiation treatment for diabetes?

And frankly, through my own personal experience, I know triglyceride- & cholesterol-lowering medications are the only thing that keep my numbers from being so far out of range they're unreadable. I avoided them for a long time…and then I had a stroke. That was my wake-up call.

russellstamets 2011-09-27 13:38:47 -0500 Report

Alana, your point is right on and should be made constantly. There's probably never been a bigger fire hose of info than there is now. Snake oil salesman are on every corner. And we know this country and the world is full of well meaning, fervent, but also misguided advocates. You have to define "fact" for yourself. You need some clue about what a primary source is. Trusting any "voice" means getting to know it, and gauging it's relation to evidence-based medicine. Those of us with any variation of this disease have to push the limits of "evidence" somewhat, because there's so little of it. Until now, I've hesitated to join these discussions because my story is different, and will add to the confusion. But, as I'm sure others believe of their own findings , I know my experience, my experiment, my body of evidence, can be weighed by the thoughtful, and used as appropriate. So, that said, I'm a 51 year old guy whose trusted D.O. diagnosed me with LADA in May 2009. Over the next year and a half, his prediction followed exactly: meds, diet and exercise worked for a while, but with diminishing returns. He said there was 0% doubt I'd be on insulin eventually. I'm lucky that he feels there's no evidence of better outcomes for a LADA by starting insulin immediately. It gave me the time to take charge of my fate. In January of this year, when, as predicted, my HbA1c was headed up again, I started research. I also looked east. The hospital where I work has a renowned integrated therapies department where I partnered with an acupuncturist/nutritionist to begin to craft my new lifestyle. Diet, a few supplements, quitting alcohol, exercise, acupuncture, meditation, stress reduction, some the usual suspects, have brought me to an HbA1c today of 5.5! It may take a few years to confirm that I've beat an irreversible autoimmune disease, and I hesitate making that claim. But my story IS one of figuring out what I consider the evidence and maybe that's worth sharing.

alanab 2011-09-27 14:06:32 -0500 Report

I for one definitely think it's worth sharing, and thank you for doing so. After some reading, it's brought up a few questions that I want to ask my own doctor. I'm glad to hear how well you're doing, and wish you continued success and good health.

sheriden 2011-09-26 21:53:59 -0500 Report

I think that we all should just chop it up to seeking our Doc's answers on everything before trying new things. And by the way I HAVE worked for both MD's and DO,s Only diff, here is the DO takes longer as they study somethings longer. I have a Do now and am happy with him. His wife is diabetic and he deals with us every day. I do not know of any other type of doctors out there. My life was also saved by a DO and my Son's by a MD. People post to help and I think all check into or have exp, in what they post or let it be known that it is just a thought or something they read. Like Jbs said just tell them what works for one dose not work for all. Thanks for your post.

savvy22 2011-09-26 19:12:11 -0500 Report

Im a confused person:-/.

alanab 2011-09-26 19:23:39 -0500 Report

Oh, lord, so am I…I just meant there a lot of newly diagnosed people here, some of whom don't have access to medical care, and they're frightened and wanting to do what's right. They read one post, and hear one thing, then read another conflicting post…well, you get the picture.

Dixiemom 2011-09-30 14:35:56 -0500 Report

Let's all remember that a dr. still has to look things up and do research and take classes. They can't possibly know every little miniscule treatment for every single disease that's out there. I don't always listen to what mine says and I will disagree if necessary. Most people are afraid to ask questions and feel intimidated by anyone who has a title. Many dr,'s will go along with natural remedies if you tell them in a positive way what you are doing. It's still called the practicwe og medicine.

lmkilday 2011-09-26 18:00:27 -0500 Report

People post news items they find in medical newsletters, newspaper or magazine articles. To my knowledge, none of the people posting claims to be a doctor. The news articles are just a way of keeping up on the latest treatments and give you info to discuss with your doctor. Why mention just the news articles? What about the discussions? There have been questions posed in discussions that should be posed to a doctor, not just another patient.

alanab 2011-09-26 18:59:05 -0500 Report

It was one article in particular that set me off, one that was submitted by a person here, and quoting a "doctor"—and I use the term loosely—but said doctor was not an MD. And I'm not trying to attack anyone in particular; I would just like to gently remind people not to believe everything they read.

lmkilday 2011-09-30 14:12:34 -0500 Report

I agree. People should get their medical advice from a doctor. Use what you find on the internet as a topic of discussion with your doctor. People shouldn't try to treat themselves with internet postings.

saber32 2011-10-01 06:19:25 -0500 Report

a great way well taken always listions to your docter just becouse the replies others make may not work for you but please go over it with your docter just to make sure it will work for you . . your docter weill tell you if this will work with you or not

jayabee52 2011-09-26 19:28:40 -0500 Report

To be honest, there is one article on Vitamin D in hindsight I would rather not have posted to the News article section.

But to gently take issue with one point here is that there are other doctors in the medical field (Osteopathy, Pharmacology, Physical Therapy) and other fields of research and learning (Psychology, Theology, English, Philosophy) other than MDs. And even some MDs can have some, IMO rather wild ideas about things.

But I will second your reminder not to believe everything you read.

jayabee52 2011-09-26 17:51:50 -0500 Report

Howdy Alana!
Point well taken!

It is the same on the internet in general. There is good information, bad information and info that is dangerous for one's physical and financial health.

Whenever I post something on the site, I try to verify its accuracy. It takes me longer to do that, but I feel it is worth it. Sometimes something looks good, but I can't verify its accuracy so I generally don't use it, or if I do use it I will post that this has not been confirmed and there are opposing opinions.

When I recommend something, I usually say something like, "this works for me" or "this is how I do it" and usually say that all People with diabetes are not alike. What works for one may not work for another.

Good post! 1 thumbs up!


alanab 2011-09-26 19:18:58 -0500 Report

Hi there! I really commend you on doing some research after reading information posted here or elsewhere. It's hard enough to have to fight the disease without fighting misinformation as well. And yes, what works for one person won't always work for another. I don't feel there is any one right way for us all.

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